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One thing to note: BB mentioned earlier this year that they will be giving the starting RB a number of carries in one game, rather than consistently subbing them in and out with one another (like last year), so they can establish some rhythm in their game.

So, you will be gambling on who gets the most carries or sees the most amount of action in any given game. Last week, BJGE started, but didn't get into a good rhythm, whereas Woodhead came in and established that rhythm, so he stayed in. If BJGE did get into rhythm, Woodhead would have seen a ton less action.

 
Seriously people just because a running back is white do we really have to compare him to Alstott? This guy is nothing like Alstott. He runs the 40 in 4.35 or something. I read Woodhead ran the 100 metre dash in 10.5 seconds in high school.

 
captain_amazing said:
One thing to note: BB mentioned earlier this year that they will be giving the starting RB a number of carries in one game, rather than consistently subbing them in and out with one another (like last year), so they can establish some rhythm in their game.So, you will be gambling on who gets the most carries or sees the most amount of action in any given game. Last week, BJGE started, but didn't get into a good rhythm, whereas Woodhead came in and established that rhythm, so he stayed in. If BJGE did get into rhythm, Woodhead would have seen a ton less action.
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A lot will depend on how competitive the game is. Green Ellis will do better if the Pats are blowing teams out and start running the ball to kill clock but he isn't going to be used much as receiver or in passing situations so when he is in the game teams will expect more runs. Woodhead played about 2 thirds of the teams snaps last week so barring a Pats blow out he will be on the field a lot because his versatility makes the Pats less predictable in terms of run/pass mix.It could be that against a team like the Colts who struggle with physical running backs that Green Ellis is used more though.
 
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captain_amazing said:
One thing to note: BB mentioned earlier this year that they will be giving the starting RB a number of carries in one game, rather than consistently subbing them in and out with one another (like last year), so they can establish some rhythm in their game.So, you will be gambling on who gets the most carries or sees the most amount of action in any given game. Last week, BJGE started, but didn't get into a good rhythm, whereas Woodhead came in and established that rhythm, so he stayed in. If BJGE did get into rhythm, Woodhead would have seen a ton less action.
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The Pats have not gone with the bell cow theory in quite some time. Taylor and BJGE were alternating series earlier in the year. I think they will go back to that once Taylor gets back. They did not really sub guys in and out very often last year, they again rotated drives. The only really sub packages they used were very shor yardage or passing downs. They can't really sub too much this year as they don't have the bodies to switch in even if they wanted to.
 
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gradin123 said:
Seriously people just because a running back is white do we really have to compare him to Alstott? This guy is nothing like Alstott. He runs the 40 in 4.35 or something. I read Woodhead ran the 100 metre dash in 10.5 seconds in high school.
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he's like a smaller faster Alstott.
 
His moves and style of running remind me of a cross between a much smaller Alstott and a much, much smaller John Riggins. Sometimes when he's running full burst, he reminds me a little more of a Jason Sehorn.

 
David Yudkin said:
captain_amazing said:
One thing to note: BB mentioned earlier this year that they will be giving the starting RB a number of carries in one game, rather than consistently subbing them in and out with one another (like last year), so they can establish some rhythm in their game.

So, you will be gambling on who gets the most carries or sees the most amount of action in any given game. Last week, BJGE started, but didn't get into a good rhythm, whereas Woodhead came in and established that rhythm, so he stayed in. If BJGE did get into rhythm, Woodhead would have seen a ton less action.
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The Pats have not gone with the bell cow theory in quite some time. Taylor and BJGE were alternating series earlier in the year. I think they will go back to that once Taylor gets back. They did not really sub guys in and out very often last year, they again rotated drives. The only really sub packages they used were very shor yardage or passing downs. They can't really sub too much this year as they don't have the bodies to switch in even if they wanted to.
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You think they will go back to a Taylor Green Ellis rotation when Taylor gets back? No Woodhead? I doubt that very much .
 
gradin123 said:
David Yudkin said:
captain_amazing said:
One thing to note: BB mentioned earlier this year that they will be giving the starting RB a number of carries in one game, rather than consistently subbing them in and out with one another (like last year), so they can establish some rhythm in their game.

So, you will be gambling on who gets the most carries or sees the most amount of action in any given game. Last week, BJGE started, but didn't get into a good rhythm, whereas Woodhead came in and established that rhythm, so he stayed in. If BJGE did get into rhythm, Woodhead would have seen a ton less action.
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The Pats have not gone with the bell cow theory in quite some time. Taylor and BJGE were alternating series earlier in the year. I think they will go back to that once Taylor gets back. They did not really sub guys in and out very often last year, they again rotated drives. The only really sub packages they used were very shor yardage or passing downs. They can't really sub too much this year as they don't have the bodies to switch in even if they wanted to.
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You think they will go back to a Taylor Green Ellis rotation when Taylor gets back? No Woodhead? I doubt that very much .
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I think they will go to a BJGE and Taylor main rotation and Woodhead getting used some and situationally. Taylor 10 carries, BJGE 10 carries, Woodhead 5-8 carries. Morris a couple short yardage carries.A lot will depend on the game plan, the opponent, the weather, the health of the backs in question, the score of the game, how effective they are running the ball, etc.

 
I doubt Taylor will be able to stay healthy. Even if he comes back in, his chances of getting re-injured are very high right now and may not even last a single game. BJGE and Woodhead are worth keeping and starting, depending on your lineup, until further developments take place.

 
David Yudkin said:
I think they will go to a BJGE and Taylor main rotation and Woodhead getting used some and situationally. Taylor 10 carries, BJGE 10 carries, Woodhead 5-8 carries. Morris a couple short yardage carries.A lot will depend on the game plan, the opponent, the weather, the health of the backs in question, the score of the game, how effective they are running the ball, etc.
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We agree to disagree then, sort of. Firstly I think Green Ellis has overtaken Taylor now. I think when Taylor comes back he will be in a bit role.I view Woodhead as Faulk on steroids, I think he has a role that will be similiar to Faulks only larger. I agree it will be situational though like it has been in recent memory for NE. I also think Welker is not 100% recovered yet from the knee and because he is getting extra attention with Moss gone some of the shorts throws he use to get will be given to Woodhead.When Taylor is healthy I would expect Green Ellis to average 10 carries, Taylor 5 carries and Woodhead about 8 but also average about 4 catches a week. So yes it is still a committee for sure but Woodhead should be good for an average of 12 touches a game going forward. Close to what Faulk did in 2008.
 
gradin123 said:
I view Woodhead as Faulk on steroids
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Literally and figuratively. DW is like the mad scientist combination of Welker and Faulk. His speed burst and vision are quite a bit more impressive than Kevin Faulk ever had tho. I think he's got the most upside of the RBs in that offense. Jets seem really foolish to have let him get taken by the Pats of all teams.I'll be very curious to see how this situation evolves.
 
LawFitz said:
gradin123 said:
I view Woodhead as Faulk on steroids
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Literally and figuratively. DW is like the mad scientist combination of Welker and Faulk. His speed burst and vision are quite a bit more impressive than Kevin Faulk ever had tho. I think he's got the most upside of the RBs in that offense. Jets seem really foolish to have let him get taken by the Pats of all teams.I'll be very curious to see how this situation evolves.
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This is my take as well. He can do what Faulk did but more, and better. He can pick up a blitz as small as he is, and do it well. I think he is bother faster and more elusive than Faulk. Faulk might have been better at yards after contact, but that's about it. He has great hands, and is very smart... it took him no time at all to learn the Pats offense. The Jets just never knew how to work him into their offensive scheme. I think Woodhead is one of the few mistakes the Jets CS has made over these past 2 seasons. He is hard to find behind an offensive line. He has great vision and seems to know when to be patient behind his blocking vs. when to just hit the hole in a hurry.

He'll never be a bell cow back, but he sure is fun to watch and root for. Belichick will make the most of his rather unique talent set. I think he will be Faulk ++ in the NE offense.

 
People keep talking about Kevin Faulk and Woodhead's role. We should be talking about the similarities between D-Wood and Marshall Faulk. That's what I'm seeing. I'm not seeing Riggins. I'm not seeing Alstott (Not sure why anyone would). I'm seeing Marshall Faulk not Kevin Faulk.

I'll say it again. have any of you looked at his own NFL day workout? He finished either #1 or #2 in every single category. I don't care what color he is or how short he is. He's strong and fast and has moves. Gamechanger imo.



Danny Woodhead should be rostered in all but the shallowest of leagues right now. He may have an off game here or there but look for NE to utilize his blazing speed and hawk-like vision by keeping him on the field. Get him active, now.

 
Clifton said:


Danny Woodhead should be rostered in all but the shallowest of leagues right now. He may have an off game here or there but look for NE to utilize his blazing speed and hawk-like vision by keeping him on the field. Get him active, now.
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I'm a hawk, and I'm definitely hearing that little voice that says "Get Danny Woodhead active".

 
curious where everyone sees him going forward relative to other RBs? Both Redraft and Dynasty. Where would you all place him giving 5 RBs ranked higher and lower than he?

Redraft: Maybe something like Torain, Wells, Lynch, Thomas Jones, Woodhead, Spiller, Michael Bush, Jacobs, Moreno, Barber

Dynasty: Not in any dynasty leagues at the moment, so don't really have strong opinions or analysis.

 
rainram said:
curious where everyone sees him going forward relative to other RBs? Both Redraft and Dynasty. Where would you all place him giving 5 RBs ranked higher and lower than he?Redraft: Maybe something like Torain, Wells, Lynch, Thomas Jones, Woodhead, Spiller, Michael Bush, Jacobs, Moreno, BarberDynasty: Not in any dynasty leagues at the moment, so don't really have strong opinions or analysis.
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Nice list there. I generally agree, but if you check Seattle's schedule you'll likely move Lynch forward a few spots.Personally I snagged Woodhead because in my money league (on espn) Woodhead can start at both rb & wr. That flexability is a great value. If he somehow blows up, I can start one more running back than my fellow leaguemates.
 
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No Jets fan likes Woodhead more than I do, but comparisons to Marshall Faulk? That's really over the top. If I had to pick a player to compare him to, it would be Dave Megget, and that is a ceiling.

It's sorta funny... at Jets message boards there is a contingent that all but hates him perhaps as a reaction to the other contingent that fell in love with the kid. The former group has finally stopped calling him Rudy now, however. Rudy never scored TD's for the Patriots.

He destroyed Philly two years in a row in the 4th preseason game. That made believers of some, and non believers of others being that those games were obviously not played against Philly's 1st or even 2nd teams. He did get the nickname Eagle killer though.

There was a segment on Hard Knocks this year during that Philly pre-season game... Ryan was asked who should be kept in the game. He said "Get Danny back in there, I know HE won't fumble the flocking ball!" That was after yet another McKnight fumble. The Jets kept the wrong guy.

As much as I hate those Patriots, I will always be a Danny Woodhead fan. I hope he kicks butt against the Jets in a losing cause.

So, if anyone remembers Megget, that is my projection for him. A dangerous 50% of what could be a very productive RBBC. Megget had Otis Anderson. Woodhead doesn't... BJGE is no Otis Anderson. With the right complimentary RB... yeah, Woodhead could be as good as Megget was IMO.

 
Rovers said:
No Jets fan likes Woodhead more than I do, but comparisons to Marshall Faulk? That's really over the top. If I had to pick a player to compare him to, it would be Dave Megget, and that is a ceiling. It's sorta funny... at Jets message boards there is a contingent that all but hates him perhaps as a reaction to the other contingent that fell in love with the kid. The former group has finally stopped calling him Rudy now, however. Rudy never scored TD's for the Patriots. He destroyed Philly two years in a row in the 4th preseason game. That made believers of some, and non believers of others being that those games were obviously not played against Philly's 1st or even 2nd teams. He did get the nickname Eagle killer though. There was a segment on Hard Knocks this year during that Philly pre-season game... Ryan was asked who should be kept in the game. He said "Get Danny back in there, I know HE won't fumble the flocking ball!" That was after yet another McKnight fumble. The Jets kept the wrong guy. As much as I hate those Patriots, I will always be a Danny Woodhead fan. I hope he kicks butt against the Jets in a losing cause. So, if anyone remembers Megget, that is my projection for him. A dangerous 50% of what could be a very productive RBBC. Megget had Otis Anderson. Woodhead doesn't... BJGE is no Otis Anderson. With the right complimentary RB... yeah, Woodhead could be as good as Megget was IMO.
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Great post, and I agree that he most reminds me of Megget (who I always liked even though I grew up a Cowboy fan). Woodhead may be a little thicker through the trunk and legs (and thus a few lbs. heavier), but very similar running styles. For this season I could see Danny putting up Megget like numbers, only with more rushing yards and slightly fewer receptions.Nice call.
 
Meggett's career high in carries was 91, and receptions 52. That is woodhead's ceiling??? he will exceed both of those this season, in only 12 games.

you guys can only find white or short guys to compare him to? maybe there isn't a comparison. (other than the white mugsy bogues of football)

 
At this point D-Wood looks like a better back than Benny Ellis..much more versitile. I am looking for at least 100 total yards from the Woodman this week.

 
kd1 said:
Meggett's career high in carries was 91, and receptions 52. That is woodhead's ceiling??? he will exceed both of those this season, in only 12 games.

you guys can only find white or short guys to compare him to? maybe there isn't a comparison. (other than the white mugsy bogues of football)
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Woodhead played in week 3 (had that nice 22 yard TD run) and hasn't missed a game since then; he should play in 14 games if he stays healthy. That being said, his receving totals are 6 receptions on 8 targets, or just 2 catches per game. Now he looks to be getting more involved as 5 of those catches and 7 targets came last week. Still, he is only going to be the 4th or 5th option for passes on any given week. I can see him approaching 50 receptions this season and even eclipsing that number, but not by much. Just to get to 50 he will need to double his average per game to 4. Certainly doable, but not a given.In terms of running style I haven't found a better comparison than Megget. In terms of production it is hard to say; Megget didn't play in this NE system, nor did he have Tom Brady at QB. But I temper my enthusiasm only because Woodhead has a smaller slice of the RB pie (especially if/when Taylor is healthy), and he plays on a team with a lot of receiving options.

 
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NatronIsMean said:
His moves and style of running remind me of a cross between a much smaller Alstott and a much, much smaller John Riggins. Sometimes when he's running full burst, he reminds me a little more of a Jason Sehorn.
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:confused:His jumper is strangely similar to Larry Bird's too.
 
Neofight said:
kd1 said:
Meggett's career high in carries was 91, and receptions 52. That is woodhead's ceiling??? he will exceed both of those this season, in only 12 games.

you guys can only find white or short guys to compare him to? maybe there isn't a comparison. (other than the white mugsy bogues of football)
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Woodhead played in week 3 (had that nice 22 yard TD run) and hasn't missed a game since then; he should play in 14 games if he stays healthy. That being said, his receving totals are 6 receptions on 8 targets, or just 2 catches per game. Now he looks to be getting more involved as 5 of those catches and 7 targets came last week. Still, he is only going to be the 4th or 5th option for passes on any given week. I can see him approaching 50 receptions this season and even eclipsing that number, but not by much. Just to get to 50 he will need to double his average per game to 4. Certainly doable, but not a given.In terms of running style I haven't found a better comparison than Megget. In terms of production it is hard to say; Megget didn't play in this NE system, nor did he have Tom Brady at QB. But I temper my enthusiasm only because Woodhead has a smaller slice of the RB pie (especially if/when Taylor is healthy), and he plays on a team with a lot of receiving options.
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I didn't realize Megget's numbers and touches were that low. I didn't look up the numbers. My perception of Megget is skewed I suppose, perhaps becasue of how dangerous he was as a return man. In running style and size, that's the best player comparison I can come up with. I certainly do think Woodhead well have far more than 91 touches. Megget was more of a true 3rd down back, while Woodhead can do more than that. I am reluctant to compare him to Tiki Barber because Barber was a feature back, not a role I am sure Woodhead could handle. In any case, you never know with Belichick. He so often changes things up, even on defense, it's pretty difficult to project NE players outside of the Bradys, Welkers, Mayos.

 
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He reminds me of Welker, Meggett, and Wayne Chrebet. It seems the Jets/Giants and Patriots have had a steady pipeline of these little guys who produce far beyond expectations at RB/WR.

Warrick Dunn also comes to mind, but he had a different build, wasn't as much of a pass catcher, and he never played for the Jets, Giants, or Patriots.

 
Maik Jeaunz said:
The Doctor said:
alot of hype built around this kid. he is a decent player but nothing spectacular
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when he graduated college, he was the all time leading rusher in NCAA history. hype or no hype, he can obviously play.
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I grew up in Western Nebraska about an hour south of Chadron State College. There are like 50 people in that town. It's impressive, but not NFL impressive. I agree he can play, but he's far outplaying his pedigree right now. In time, that has to show IMO.
 
Benny Ellis is getting all the goal line carries with Sam Morris mixed in here and there. Woodys value is taking a hit today.

 
He was knocked down just short of the goal line or he would be having a better day. They seem to not use him for goal line work though so BJGE is outscoring him at the moment.

 
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He was knocked down just short of the goal line or he would be having a better day. They seem to not use him for goal line work though so BJGE is outscoring him at the moment.
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They shuffle them pretty well, no back for sure gets the goal line carries.
 
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