I've got no interest in him as an Eagles backup, although I would rather have him over McMahon [but keep in mind I LOATHE McMahon]. Ragone is a robotic pocket passer with a slow [or slower than optimal] release; not exactly a great fit for Reid's offense.I would love it if the Birds took a look at someone like McCown but it's not going to happen. Mornhinweg is a McMahon guy and he's now our OCinteresting, thanks for the reply
well your Eagles backups aren't cutting it IMO. Is it fair to agree on that? Would you want them to take a chance on him? or no? Why or why not?
What about Rohan Davey? I can't believe he hasn't caught on somewhere. He's got everything but the mind, but that's a lot to be missing. Still, he should be playing somewhere. As for Ragone, he makes me think of a Jay Fiedler type. Low end NFL caliber. There are 30 of them in the league, but 200 guys with the skill package.Lots of guys look good coming out of college and NFL Europe. Sometimes the speed of the NFL is too much of an adjustment.
Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Chris Redman, Patrick Ramsey, Joey Harrington, JP Losman all come to mind...
When I saw him, he looked good in preseason too. You're right lots of guys have. I'd bet every starting NFL QB would look good in preseason and in NFLE if they went. My point is simply that he's done well in all the minor league and practice reps, in my mind that deserves a look in the regular season. Just a look. End of the game, end of the season...something. Otherwise, what's the point in a player doing well in preseason and NFLE?BTW Redman didn't start(or make?) his NFLE team and not so coincidentally he was cut from his NFL team shortly after. Titans? I think it was last summer.Lots of guys look good coming out of college and NFL Europe. Sometimes the speed of the NFL is too much of an adjustment.
Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Chris Redman, Patrick Ramsey, Joey Harrington, JP Losman all come to mind...
The rumor and insider stuff that has floated around the Texans fans and message boards is that Ragone is more of a "gamer" and does not practice well at all.When I saw him, he looked good in preseason too. You're right lots of guys have. I'd bet every starting NFL QB would look good in preseason and in NFLE if they went. My point is simply that he's done well in all the minor league and practice reps, in my mind that deserves a look in the regular season. Just a look. End of the game, end of the season...something. Otherwise, what's the point in a player doing well in preseason and NFLE?BTW Redman didn't start(or make?) his NFLE team and not so coincidentally he was cut from his NFL team shortly after. Titans? I think it was last summer.Lots of guys look good coming out of college and NFL Europe. Sometimes the speed of the NFL is too much of an adjustment.
Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Chris Redman, Patrick Ramsey, Joey Harrington, JP Losman all come to mind...
No faith in Timmy Chang?interesting, thanks for the reply
well your Eagles backups aren't cutting it IMO. Is it fair to agree on that? Would you want them to take a chance on him? or no? Why or why not?
I heard awful things about him as if he was "lucky" to throw for so many yards in college. While that can't be true, he certainly didn't prove the people wrong that said such things.NFLE has been wonderful for some quarterbacks. I think it's unlikely he pans out but they've performed some magic over there with QBs so I guess anything's possible.No faith in Timmy Chang?interesting, thanks for the reply
well your Eagles backups aren't cutting it IMO. Is it fair to agree on that? Would you want them to take a chance on him? or no? Why or why not?
Timmy Chang simply isn't an NFL caliber QB...if you were to create a checklist of the key components of successful NFL QBs, Chang would be hard pressed to come up with a fraction of them.I heard awful things about him as if he was "lucky" to throw for so many yards in college. While that can't be true, he certainly didn't prove the people wrong that said such things.NFLE has been wonderful for some quarterbacks. I think it's unlikely he pans out but they've performed some magic over there with QBs so I guess anything's possible.No faith in Timmy Chang?interesting, thanks for the reply
well your Eagles backups aren't cutting it IMO. Is it fair to agree on that? Would you want them to take a chance on him? or no? Why or why not?
3rd round pick as that was Ragone's original draft round.Ragone has barely played in the NFL. Since he's a restricted free agent, what would teams have to give the Texans as compensation?
is that how the compensation works?I thought it had to do with "accrued seasons", maybe I'm confusing that with something else3rd round pick as that was Ragone's original draft round.Ragone has barely played in the NFL. Since he's a restricted free agent, what would teams have to give the Texans as compensation?
His mechanics couldn't be any worse than Phillip "freaking" Rivers.He was considered a guy who could be a top pick entering his final year at Louisville, but his stock fell off in his final season for a variety of reasons. Ultimately the main knocks on him were stiff mechanics and a less-than-ideal release.
IIRC, the team that signed Redman and released him in training camp was New England.BTW Redman didn't start(or make?) his NFLE team and not so coincidentally he was cut from his NFL team shortly after. Titans? I think it was last summer.
you're right, signed Jan 6th cut June 1stAt titansonline.com they have Redman being picked up august 22 and cut september 3rdIIRC, the team that signed Redman and released him in training camp was New England.BTW Redman didn't start(or make?) his NFLE team and not so coincidentally he was cut from his NFL team shortly after. Titans? I think it was last summer.
maybe that's why the Texans thought he'd fit inThe guy really paid the price playing behind an atrocious Louisville line,