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Lutherman2112

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This is from Dale Lolley's blog, NFL From The Sidelines. The Washington Observer-Reporter sports writer states:

Speaking with Najeh Davenport for the first time today since his signing by the Steelers Friday, I was struck by how hungry he is to show Green Bay that it was wrong to let him go.

Getting cut by a team that is quite possibly the worst team in football will do that to you.

Davenport feels he has plenty to prove after his release by the hapless Packers and he feels he'll fit right into the Steelers' running scheme.

We could find out as soon as Monday because Davenport will likely be active when the Steelers play at Jacksonville.
That would be interesting. Davenport active, while Staley watches in sweats on the sideline. What in the hell are the Steelers going to do with Staley?
 
I am very concerned how this will affect Parker's numbers, especially anything inside the 10 yard line. I feel like the Steelers really aren't going to give Parker the chance for goalline carries. Of course when Davenport gets injured again...

 
I am very concerned how this will affect Parker's numbers, especially anything inside the 10 yard line. I feel like the Steelers really aren't going to give Parker the chance for goalline carries. Of course when Davenport gets injured again...
Davenport i think plays the Bettis role with short yardage and goalline carries.But if Parker were to get hurt Davenport could be gold; well until he gets hurt again.
 
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Yes, I'm a FWP owner and also am anxious about this move. Cowher looking to repeat the FWP/Bettis combo from last year. I read somehwere yesterday that Cowher is looking to give FWP about 20 carries/game and looking for Davenport to take up the slack and work around the goal line.

####### Cowher - doesn't he realize that we based our fantasy draft on his pre-season assurances that FWP would get 3rd down and GL carries?

UUGGHH!

 
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I am very concerned how this will affect Parker's numbers, especially anything inside the 10 yard line. I feel like the Steelers really aren't going to give Parker the chance for goalline carries. Of course when Davenport gets injured again...
thats funny. Im not. Davenport is no good.
 
bettis had value from week to week as the goal line guy. so if davenport gets the bus job you could throw him out there on a bye week for someone else.

not that davenport is as good as bettis, though he really went ballistic in that one half of a start last season.

 
I am very concerned how this will affect Parker's numbers, especially anything inside the 10 yard line. I feel like the Steelers really aren't going to give Parker the chance for goalline carries. Of course when Davenport gets injured again...
thats funny. Im not. Davenport is no good.
should not take long for both, he and Staley, to be injured
RightAll these fat backs that cant find gigs around the league are going to have little to no impact.Duckett,Dayne,Davenport cant really play or stay heathly.
 
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I am very concerned how this will affect Parker's numbers, especially anything inside the 10 yard line. I feel like the Steelers really aren't going to give Parker the chance for goalline carries. Of course when Davenport gets injured again...
thats funny. Im not. Davenport is no good.
He did score 2 TDs on 3 carries inside the opponent's 5 last year and had 7 carries on 2nd/3rd/4th down with 3 or fewer to go and got 5 first downs, so in this limited role, behind a GOOD offensive line, he might be just fine and worth a pickup in TD-heavy leagues.
 
I am very concerned how this will affect Parker's numbers, especially anything inside the 10 yard line. I feel like the Steelers really aren't going to give Parker the chance for goalline carries. Of course when Davenport gets injured again...
I finally watched the NFL Yearbook that I TiVoed for the Steelers the other night. In one of the highlights from last year, Cowher says to Parker as he is coming off the field, "Don't hyperventilate on me." Then I remembered reading something last year along the lines that Parker holds his breath as he runs the ball. If he exerts himself on a long drive, without properly breathing, he ends up being gassed. Remember last week when he took himself out of the lineup in a goaline situation (resulting in a fumble)?I think that Parker could do fine as a goaline back, heck his performance in camp in goaline situations his first year is what earned him a spot on the practice squad. But, if he is running the ball on a long drive that ends at the goaline, would you rather have a gassed Parker, or a fresh Davenport?
 
I am very concerned how this will affect Parker's numbers, especially anything inside the 10 yard line. I feel like the Steelers really aren't going to give Parker the chance for goalline carries. Of course when Davenport gets injured again...
thats funny. Im not. Davenport is no good.
should not take long for both, he and Staley, to be injured
Exactly! Davenpoop ain't close to bein' the BUS. never. No one is.Cowher needs to lighten the load (Najeh moment) on FWP. These guys (Haynes, Staley, Davenport) are FILLER. Take a few carries here & there to keep FWP from 30+ carry games. That's all.We need Fast Willie in the Superbowl! (read the sig)
 
How healthy is Davenport? I assume that one of the primary reasons the Packers cut him is that he had not recovered to the extent they wanted.

Hard to understand why they would have just up and cut him otherwise - given the overall sorry state of that team.

A healthy Davenport, even if he's just in short yardage/goalline situations, could still be a monster in Pittsburgh. Then again, if he's not healthy, it won't really matter.

 
I'm not sure that people are looking at Pit's RB situation from last year from the right perspective. I don't think it was so much about Bettis keeping Parker fresh and healthy as Parker taking a huge chunk of the workload so that Bettis would be fresh and healthy when they really needed him. Bettis was a proven starter that Cowher knew and trusted. No one is going to take the "Bettis role" this year, not Staley, not Davenport, obviously not Cobbs or Hume.

That said no one expects Parker to get 29 carries a game so it makes sense that you're going to bring in Davenport occassionally. Also it makes sense that if Davenport is going to get 5 to 10 carries a game they're more likely to come in short-yardage and, yes, goaline situations because of the kind of back he is and the fact that you're going to want Parker's speed in there on 1st and 10. So I expect Davenport to take some goaline carries but someone was going to eat into Parker's carries a little at some point anyway. I don't think the Davenport signing changes things all that much.

 
Davenport's initial future with the Steeler will be as a short yardage guy and to come in to grind the clock down when the Steelers have the lead to reduce the wear and tear on FWP. I don't necessarily see him getting all of the goal line carries right away but he'll get his opportunities and if he is successful, he may very well become the exclusive goal line back.

As far as Duce goes, he is only there as an insurance policy in case someone gets hurt. The Steelers are already on the hook to pay him for the season and there is little reason to cut him loose at this point. That may change later in the season if Davenport does well and the Steelers need the roster spot.

 
CrossEyed said:
So what have Najeh's injuries been?
It is a cornucopia of injuries fracturing his left eye socket, hamstring, broken ribs, quadriceps injury, broken ankle,...etc...
 
Godsbrother said:
Davenport's initial future with the Steeler will be as a short yardage guy and to come in to grind the clock down when the Steelers have the lead to reduce the wear and tear on FWP. I don't necessarily see him getting all of the goal line carries right away but he'll get his opportunities and if he is successful, he may very well become the exclusive goal line back.

As far as Duce goes, he is only there as an insurance policy in case someone gets hurt. The Steelers are already on the hook to pay him for the season and there is little reason to cut him loose at this point. That may change later in the season if Davenport does well and the Steelers need the roster spot.
I disagree here, I think he'll get the goal line carries starting Monday night, and will keep them barring a fumblrooski or injury...
 
I wouldn't be too worried about Davenport. GB gave a long hard look to him this preseason - and he performed so poorly he didn't even get a roster spot. He was slow to hit the hole and went down on first contact. Not really attributes you want in your GL back.

 
Godsbrother said:
Davenport's initial future with the Steeler will be as a short yardage guy and to come in to grind the clock down when the Steelers have the lead to reduce the wear and tear on FWP. I don't necessarily see him getting all of the goal line carries right away but he'll get his opportunities and if he is successful, he may very well become the exclusive goal line back.

As far as Duce goes, he is only there as an insurance policy in case someone gets hurt. The Steelers are already on the hook to pay him for the season and there is little reason to cut him loose at this point. That may change later in the season if Davenport does well and the Steelers need the roster spot.
I disagree here, I think he'll get the goal line carries starting Monday night, and will keep them barring a fumblrooski or injury...
He'll be given an opportunity Monday night and if he does well then he'll get more opportunities. Cowher has been reluctant to give that job to anyone thus far, he is not going to just hand it to Davenport.
 
I know the write up on this site said Willie took himself out of the game at the goal line in the Dolphin game but I'm not buying it. What RB, especially one who has made it clear he wants the goal line job, would remove himself at the one yard line? I think Davenport is going to be the goal line back and it was never Willies job. The good news is Willie is such a gamebreaker I still think he will be good for about 8-10 TD's.

 
I know the write up on this site said Willie took himself out of the game at the goal line in the Dolphin game but I'm not buying it. What RB, especially one who has made it clear he wants the goal line job, would remove himself at the one yard line? I think Davenport is going to be the goal line back and it was never Willies job. The good news is Willie is such a gamebreaker I still think he will be good for about 8-10 TD's.
Parker definitely took himself out of the game. Saw it me-self...
 
Davenport was cut by one of the worst teams in the NFL so that says something about his talent. He also had a clear opportunity to get carries or even start with the Packersw and that motivation didn't even allow him to make the team. Either the Packers are the worst judge of talent ever or Davenport will never amount to anything and FWP owners have nothing to worry about. I lean towards the latter.

 
I know the write up on this site said Willie took himself out of the game at the goal line in the Dolphin game but I'm not buying it. What RB, especially one who has made it clear he wants the goal line job, would remove himself at the one yard line? I think Davenport is going to be the goal line back and it was never Willies job. The good news is Willie is such a gamebreaker I still think he will be good for about 8-10 TD's.
Parker definitely took himself out of the game. Saw it me-self...
Yep. I watched it again on the NFL Network replay.
 
I think Davenport is a steal this week on the WW. He's one injury away from being the starting RB on a team the loves to run, with a good o-line. No doubt you have to move FWP down without the goal line carries, but after watching FWP last week asking to be removed, maybe Parker doesn't want the carries and wear and tear you get on the goal line. Davenport could be what Jacobs is to Tiki

 
I did read that Cowher said he didn't think Parker could carry the ball 30 -35 times a game and he wants him to be fresh for the playoffs so I tink he will lose GL plays.

the game against Miami proves it when Haynes came in and there was a bad snap but Haynes may have had a TD had not lost the ball.

 
I know the write up on this site said Willie took himself out of the game at the goal line in the Dolphin game but I'm not buying it. What RB, especially one who has made it clear he wants the goal line job, would remove himself at the one yard line? I think Davenport is going to be the goal line back and it was never Willies job. The good news is Willie is such a gamebreaker I still think he will be good for about 8-10 TD's.
Parker definitely took himself out of the game. Saw it me-self...
Please elaborate on what you saw. I watched the game but have not seen a replay and all I saw was he left the game.
 
I did read that Cowher said he didn't think Parker could carry the ball 30 -35 times a game and he wants him to be fresh for the playoffs so I tink he will lose GL plays.the game against Miami proves it when Haynes came in and there was a bad snap but Haynes may have had a TD had not lost the ball.
35 carries per game would be 560 carries in a season. I doubt that any NFL back could do that.
 
Some discussion on the topic, from the "Steelers sign Davenport" thread:

Anytime it comes up that a steelers back will take carries away from the starter, you have to keep in mind the insane amount of carries that Steelers backs get. Over the past 2 years, they've run the ball 618 and 549 times. Even if FWP loses 30-40% of the carries to Duce/Dookie (or a combo of both), that still leaves 350 carries for FWP.

IMO, the Dookie signing is not a threat to FWP at all. It's to provide depth that Steelers will need and will use as they approach 600 carries again this year.
:goodposting: Finally some sanity in here.
Not sure anybody is worried about the *volume* of carries that Davenport might siphon away from FWP. It’s the possible geographic location (READ: inside the 5) of those pilfered carries that would have me concerned if I owned FWP.
That's fair, but I guess it depends on where you set the bar originally for FWP. If you had him in the 10-15 range, with some concerns that he may lose some goalline carries (like most people had him most preseason) I don't think he moves much from there. If the last preseason game and the Miami game had you really gulping the kool-aid that he's going to be a tier 2, 5-10 running back, then you may want to temper some of the enthusiam. I don't think that the combo of Dookie/Duce/Haynes is any more of a threat to the number or type of carries than FWP will get than the combo of Duce/Haynes/Cobb was. He was signed for Depth. He'll probably see 100-125 carries this year, none of which FWP would have seen anyway.

ETA: This signing (like many others have said) speaks the loudest to me about what they think about Duce this year. He's old, injury prone, and he sucks. At least with Dookie, he's young, injury prone, and sucks. Slight improvement.
 
I know the write up on this site said Willie took himself out of the game at the goal line in the Dolphin game but I'm not buying it.
God, cause no one's trying to sell it. It's a fact, believe it or don't. :shrug:
And again I ask how is this fact. Please elaborate as I've asked others to do to no avail.
How does anything become a fact?Willie took himself out of the game last week. If you watched it and saw it, you to would recognize it was a fact. I mean, he did it, it's pretty simple.
 
I think Davenport is a steal this week on the WW. He's one injury away from being the starting RB on a team the loves to run, with a good o-line. No doubt you have to move FWP down without the goal line carries, but after watching FWP last week asking to be removed, maybe Parker doesn't want the carries and wear and tear you get on the goal line. Davenport could be what Jacobs is to Tiki
Whoa, I think you are getting way ahead of yourself here! Let's see Davenport in action before we hand him the #2 RB job.
 
I know the write up on this site said Willie took himself out of the game at the goal line in the Dolphin game but I'm not buying it. What RB, especially one who has made it clear he wants the goal line job, would remove himself at the one yard line? I think Davenport is going to be the goal line back and it was never Willies job. The good news is Willie is such a gamebreaker I still think he will be good for about 8-10 TD's.
Parker definitely took himself out of the game. Saw it me-self...
Please elaborate on what you saw. I watched the game but have not seen a replay and all I saw was he left the game.
Parker was heading for the huddle, then he turned towards the sidelines and started to wave as in to say "I'm coming out". I remember this because I was surprised that he was pulling himself out after being such a big part of bringing them down the field.
 
I know the write up on this site said Willie took himself out of the game at the goal line in the Dolphin game but I'm not buying it. What RB, especially one who has made it clear he wants the goal line job, would remove himself at the one yard line? I think Davenport is going to be the goal line back and it was never Willies job. The good news is Willie is such a gamebreaker I still think he will be good for about 8-10 TD's.
Parker definitely took himself out of the game. Saw it me-self...
Please elaborate on what you saw. I watched the game but have not seen a replay and all I saw was he left the game.
Parker was heading for the huddle, then he turned towards the sidelines and started to wave as in to say "I'm coming out". I remember this because I was surprised that he was pulling himself out after being such a big part of bringing them down the field.
Maybe but maybe not. Maybe he raised his hand as if to say "me" when Verron came in. I'm a huge Steeler fan so I've followed this closely and not for fantasy football. I know Willie is dying to prove he can get the tough yards and has stated he thinks he is suited to be the goal line back. I find it difficult to believe he would pull himself on the one yard line in light of this. I'm not saying it's not possible but I am saying we don't know for sure.I wanted to add I was out of town at my WCOFF draft and forgot to TIVO the game. I did pose this question on the Steelerslive.com page and they honestly don't know if FWP pulled himself or got pulled but here is what the last guy wrote. These are not my words but the words of someone who just re-watched the game after I asked the question:I just watched it. After Willie Ran it down to the half yard line he got up and walked back to the huddle. On his way to the huddle someone got his attention and he looked over and then put his hand up. He had every intention of staying in the game. If he wanted out he would have put his hand up immediately and jogged to the sideline. He saw Haynes coming in and probably just put his hand up out of habit.
 
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Davenport was cut by one of the worst teams in the NFL so that says something about his talent. He also had a clear opportunity to get carries or even start with the Packersw and that motivation didn't even allow him to make the team. Either the Packers are the worst judge of talent ever or Davenport will never amount to anything and FWP owners have nothing to worry about. I lean towards the latter.
I would have to say in the past three years the Packers have been one of the worst judges of talent. Look at their drafts and free agent pick ups and who they've let go. I'm a Packer homer, but I've been extremely disappointed in their recent acquisitions and departures (includes gm, coaches and players). That said while he wasn't the answer in Green Bay, I think Davenport has an excellent burst of speed and can just run over people. I didn't get a chance to watch much preseason of the Pack, so I don't know how he looked, but in the past when healthy he was pretty good. I think he will be a solid addition to the Steelers, and unfortunately, probably a negative to FWP owners (myself included).
 
I think Davenport is a steal this week on the WW. He's one injury away from being the starting RB on a team the loves to run, with a good o-line. No doubt you have to move FWP down without the goal line carries, but after watching FWP last week asking to be removed, maybe Parker doesn't want the carries and wear and tear you get on the goal line. Davenport could be what Jacobs is to Tiki
:loco: davenport is no good, What excatly has he done is his career to make you think this is possible? He can't stay heathly and got cut by perhaps the worse team in the league.
 
I know the write up on this site said Willie took himself out of the game at the goal line in the Dolphin game but I'm not buying it. What RB, especially one who has made it clear he wants the goal line job, would remove himself at the one yard line? I think Davenport is going to be the goal line back and it was never Willies job. The good news is Willie is such a gamebreaker I still think he will be good for about 8-10 TD's.
Parker definitely took himself out of the game. Saw it me-self...
Please elaborate on what you saw. I watched the game but have not seen a replay and all I saw was he left the game.
Parker was heading for the huddle, then he turned towards the sidelines and started to wave as in to say "I'm coming out". I remember this because I was surprised that he was pulling himself out after being such a big part of bringing them down the field.
Maybe but maybe not. Maybe he raised his hand as if to say "me" when Verron came in. I'm a huge Steeler fan so I've followed this closely and not for fantasy football. I know Willie is dying to prove he can get the tough yards and has stated he thinks he is suited to be the goal line back. I find it difficult to believe he would pull himself on the one yard line in light of this. I'm not saying it's not possible but I am saying we don't know for sure.I wanted to add I was out of town at my WCOFF draft and forgot to TIVO the game. I did pose this question on the Steelerslive.com page and they honestly don't know if FWP pulled himself or got pulled but here is what the last guy wrote. These are not my words but the words of someone who just re-watched the game after I asked the question:

I just watched it. After Willie Ran it down to the half yard line he got up and walked back to the huddle. On his way to the huddle someone got his attention and he looked over and then put his hand up. He had every intention of staying in the game. If he wanted out he would have put his hand up immediately and jogged to the sideline. He saw Haynes coming in and probably just put his hand up out of habit.
:rolleyes: Have you taken your meds today ???? He looked to the sideline and asked for a blow, I know you badly want him to get EVERY goal line carry but you're being delusional if you think he didn't take himself out of the game. Davenport will get his shot at the sort yardage/goalline carries on Monday night, if he looks good, he'll keep them. If Dookie fumbles, gets hurt or doesn't look good, then Willie might get another crack at the goal line.

 
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I think Davenport is a steal this week on the WW. He's one injury away from being the starting RB on a team the loves to run, with a good o-line. No doubt you have to move FWP down without the goal line carries, but after watching FWP last week asking to be removed, maybe Parker doesn't want the carries and wear and tear you get on the goal line. Davenport could be what Jacobs is to Tiki
:loco: davenport is no good, What excatly has he done is his career to make you think this is possible? He can't stay heathly and got cut by perhaps the worse team in the league.
He's got a 4.9 career average, granted in limited time. However, Tony Fisher, playing a similar amount of time in similar situations, on the same team with the same surrounding players managed only a 3.7 career average. Injury prone? Up to this point in his career, sure (players can get over that) but he does not flat out suck.
 
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