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In both the ESPN and the NFL Network mocks they are talking about the posibility of them taking a QB Sanchez). Does this mean the Jags are are done with Garrard? If they took a QB that high they would almost HAVE to play him sooner rather than later, right? What's the word general on DG, especially from any J'ville homers.

Thsnks

 
In both the ESPN and the NFL Network mocks they are talking about the posibility of them taking a QB Sanchez). Does this mean the Jags are are done with Garrard? If they took a QB that high they would almost HAVE to play him sooner rather than later, right? What's the word general on DG, especially from any J'ville homers.

Thsnks
I dont expect the Jaguars to take a QB in the first, especially Mark Sanchez, but if they did i don't know why he would have to start sooner rather than later.
 
In both the ESPN and the NFL Network mocks they are talking about the posibility of them taking a QB Sanchez). Does this mean the Jags are are done with Garrard? If they took a QB that high they would almost HAVE to play him sooner rather than later, right? What's the word general on DG, especially from any J'ville homers.

Thsnks
I dont expect the Jaguars to take a QB in the first, especially Mark Sanchez, but if they did i don't know why he would have to start sooner rather than later.
..I assure you..their pick won't be Sanchez...

 
I think what you're seeing are the mock drafters giving up on Garrard, not Jacksonville. While I'm not personally the biggest Garrard fan, I do think they can certainly win a lot of games with him at the helm. And given the absolute lack of receiving playmakers last year and the sorry state of the offensive line, I'm not sure any QB would've had much success a season ago. That said, I wouldn't be shocked to see a team draft Sanchez that already has a "QB." That's just smart football if a) you think Sanchez is a future franchise QB and b) you think his value has fallen far enough where he far and away outdistances himself from the other available players left on your draft board.

 
They are fine at QB. Garrard is serviceable and they have a great RB. They need WRs and to re-work that defense. Of course, WR has been a glaring need for years (ever since the days of Jimmy Smith and Keenan McCardell), and I'm not sure why they didn't address it in the offseason. There were plenty of decent ones out there. Heck, Galloway would have been decent enough, and Harrison is still out there!

Anywho, I don't see them drafting a QB, especially Sanchez, who is an inexperienced underclassman. I can see them maybe drafting one later in the draft or waiting until next year.

 
Word is that the Jags are spending a lot of time with Kansas State QB Josh Freeman, so much so that other teams are getting a little pissed.

Link: Here

Personal workout with QB coach Mike Shula on the 23rd. I personally like Freeman a lot more in terms of value if he can be had late first or early second round. He's got his shortcomings, no question, but given the Jaguar's interest in Dennis Dixon last year, it's not at all surprising that we're looking hard at Freeman. Got a cannon for an arm, built sturdily, tall, can run the ball, and improved his numbers (TD's up) (INT's down) every year he has started. He's a little skittish in the pocket if protection breaks down, but he usually stands tall in the pocket, steps up, and throws when he has the time. Uses that height very well. Doesn't have much touch, though, and usually throws bullets for completions.

Sounds a lot like garrard. A lot. If we trade down with a team like Philly and pick up two late 1st's I can see us trying to acquire Freeman with one of the picks. He's definitely a guy that needs to be groomed, and i think Garrard would be a very appropriate one for him.

 
One of the mock drafts with the Jags taking Sanchez first round was Mike Lombardi on NFL Network. His comments were that Garrard had a bad year, and the Jags only have Cleo Lemon as their backup QB.

I felt his comments about David Garrard were unfair as it was almost implied that it was Garrard's fault alone that he had a bad season, we all know that your QB can't do anything if the OL is a mess. As for the comment that the Jags only have Cleo Lemon as backup, to me thats no reason to go out and draft a QB high in the first round. I think they'd be able to pick up a free agent QB to be 2nd or 3rd string and if they're going to draft a QB this round, do it in the 2nd or 3rd round. If they're going to have to spend big money on their first round draft pick, I'd like to see them do it on an OL or WR, positions they have more immediate needs at.

I've seen a couple of mock drafts that have them taking a top OL thats still available there or WRs Crabtree or Maclin. I think I'd be happy with them taking anything except QB at the #8 spot.

Christopher

 
I think what you're seeing are the mock drafters giving up on Garrard, not Jacksonville. While I'm not personally the biggest Garrard fan, I do think they can certainly win a lot of games with him at the helm. And given the absolute lack of receiving playmakers last year and the sorry state of the offensive line, I'm not sure any QB would've had much success a season ago. That said, I wouldn't be shocked to see a team draft Sanchez that already has a "QB." That's just smart football if a) you think Sanchez is a future franchise QB and b) you think his value has fallen far enough where he far and away outdistances himself from the other available players left on your draft board.
:thumbdown: DG is not exactly a young QB. He is 31 years old. So drafting a QB for a year or two from now would not be a bad idea and doesn't mean that they are giving up on DG at this point.
 
I think what you're seeing are the mock drafters giving up on Garrard, not Jacksonville. While I'm not personally the biggest Garrard fan, I do think they can certainly win a lot of games with him at the helm. And given the absolute lack of receiving playmakers last year and the sorry state of the offensive line, I'm not sure any QB would've had much success a season ago. That said, I wouldn't be shocked to see a team draft Sanchez that already has a "QB." That's just smart football if a) you think Sanchez is a future franchise QB and b) you think his value has fallen far enough where he far and away outdistances himself from the other available players left on your draft board.
:X DG is not exactly a young QB. He is 31 years old. So drafting a QB for a year or two from now would not be a bad idea and doesn't mean that they are giving up on DG at this point.
Garrard is serviceable.He's not a QB who will lead JAX to a SB title.If this is the ultimate goal for JAX, then draftinga future franchise QB this year and grooming him, would be a smart idea, imo.
 
Ron_Mexico said:
az_prof said:
Jason Wood said:
I think what you're seeing are the mock drafters giving up on Garrard, not Jacksonville. While I'm not personally the biggest Garrard fan, I do think they can certainly win a lot of games with him at the helm. And given the absolute lack of receiving playmakers last year and the sorry state of the offensive line, I'm not sure any QB would've had much success a season ago. That said, I wouldn't be shocked to see a team draft Sanchez that already has a "QB." That's just smart football if a) you think Sanchez is a future franchise QB and b) you think his value has fallen far enough where he far and away outdistances himself from the other available players left on your draft board.
:lmao: DG is not exactly a young QB. He is 31 years old. So drafting a QB for a year or two from now would not be a bad idea and doesn't mean that they are giving up on DG at this point.
Garrard is serviceable.He's not a QB who will lead JAX to a SB title.If this is the ultimate goal for JAX, then draftinga future franchise QB this year and grooming him, would be a smart idea, imo.
This sounds like Denver a few years back with Jake Plummer. And I think Plummer was better QB than Garrard.
 
I can see this potential move of Sanchez in the first round or another first day QB pick as a 'look to the future' and somewhat of a back handed compliment to Garrard as a professional who will continue to be the starter until either his contact is up or when they feel their draft pick is ready.

They do need a young guy to develop. I think there are a number of guys they can get in rounds 2-4 who might fit the bill: Freeman and Nate Davis come to mind immediately. I think Pat White will drop because of the NFL's preference for bigger physical dimensions from a QB, but if there were a team that might go after a guy like White, Jacksonville could be it. What all three have in common is they show signs of reading defenses, but aren't at the advanced stage of a top rookie prospect and all three have enough mobility in the pocket with a strong enough arm to mold into a quality starter if all things work out as hoped. Sanchez certainly fits this mold, too. But to invest in him as high as #8 would mean to me that they think he's capable of starting in year two and become their guy for the next 5-7 seasons.

Sanchez has some qualities that could lead a team to believe he's capable of being a good NFL starter. One of them his his ability to throw to is left or right on the move and off balance. He also moves reasonably well in the pocket.

It's an intriguing story to follow, that's for sure.

 
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Assuming Stafford, J.Smith, Monroe, Orakpo, Curry & Crabtree are off the board, I think they could be very happy with Maclin, A.Smith, Oher, or Raji and possibly DHB over Sanchez. How early do you think Tebow will go in next year's draft?

 
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Assuming Stafford, J.Smith, Monroe, Orakpo, Curry & Crabtree are off the board, I think they could be very happy with Maclin, A.Smith, Oher, or Raji and possibly DHB over Sanchez. How early do you think Tebow will go in next year's draft?
I think it will be a surprise if Tebow goes on the first day in 2010. Not to get the thread off topic, but Tebow only goes in the first 3 rounds if he convinces people his athleticism translates easily into another position AND he's willing to play said position. I'm not sure he'll accept being seen as something other than a QB though. :thumbup:
 
Assuming Stafford, J.Smith, Monroe, Orakpo, Curry & Crabtree are off the board, I think they could be very happy with Maclin, A.Smith, Oher, or Raji and possibly DHB over Sanchez. How early do you think Tebow will go in next year's draft?
I think it will be a surprise if Tebow goes on the first day in 2010. Not to get the thread off topic, but Tebow only goes in the first 3 rounds if he convinces people his athleticism translates easily into another position AND he's willing to play said position. I'm not sure he'll accept being seen as something other than a QB though. :goodposting:
I agree that I don't think Tebow will be graded out as a first day prospect in 2010, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him go there in spite of the grade. It only takes one owner to be in love with him for him to be taken too early, and he's the kind of guy that coaches fall in love with. Gruden recently said that he would guarantee a super bowl if he had Tebow, and would take him with any pick in the draft. He's gone now obviously, but I'd guess there are other coaches/GMs that think the same way. In fact, I think there was an article earlier this offseason about a former GM saying that they would take Tebow early in the 1st, but I can't dig it up right now.
 
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It's is my personal feelings that Del Rio is on the "Hot Seat". He won't pass up an impact player(Maclin/Crabtree) for one he has to develope(sanchez). He needs to win and make the Playoffs or the Jags are going to start thinking about a coaching change.

 
It's is my personal feelings that Del Rio is on the "Hot Seat". He won't pass up an impact player(Maclin/Crabtree) for one he has to develope(sanchez). He needs to win and make the Playoffs or the Jags are going to start thinking about a coaching change.
Del Rio isn't making draft selections- Gene Smith is.
 
Assuming Stafford, J.Smith, Monroe, Orakpo, Curry & Crabtree are off the board, I think they could be very happy with Maclin, A.Smith, Oher, or Raji and possibly DHB over Sanchez. How early do you think Tebow will go in next year's draft?
I think it will be a surprise if Tebow goes on the first day in 2010. Not to get the thread off topic, but Tebow only goes in the first 3 rounds if he convinces people his athleticism translates easily into another position AND he's willing to play said position. I'm not sure he'll accept being seen as something other than a QB though. :shrug:
I think MANY people will be surprised if Tebow doesn't go in the 1st ROUND. The Gator reference in the other J'ville thread (that shall go unnamed) helped that quoted remark pop out of my head. I don't think a majority of people expect him to go that early, but when it comes to the draft, it only takes 1. :shrug: [/ :blackdot: ]

 
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It's is my personal feelings that Del Rio is on the "Hot Seat". He won't pass up an impact player(Maclin/Crabtree) for one he has to develope(sanchez). He needs to win and make the Playoffs or the Jags are going to start thinking about a coaching change.
Del Rio isn't making draft selections- Gene Smith is.
Doh! :thumbup: So you're saying Del Rio has no no say in any of the draft picks.
I'm sure he has has say, just not the FINAL say.
 

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