Ministry of Pain
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Fumble was a bit of a downer
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***David Wilson Bandwagon*** (1 Viewer)
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cobalt_27
Footballguy
Will make a regular appearance, to boot. Not sure why everyone has such bullish projections on him, when he can't hold onto the ball, and that's going to interfere with his reps.Sorry to all the buyers in this thread, but you invested in fool's gold.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Only someone who doesn't know what they're doing. But let's not string him before his first game is over.
shadyridr
Footballguy
this. hes a top handcuff. thats all
Sea Duck
Footballguy
He was started in 13.5% of leagues at MFL.
FavreCo
Footballguy
I did try to warn people.
Dought Man
Footballguy
Coughlin might trust him again in a month or two..
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
It was or was pretty close before the fumble
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I guess Bradshaw's 2.7 ypc can only go up, so maybe.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
It's week1, I'm sure he is going to be worked into the offense but it will take longer. He'll bust off a long run and this thread will get bumped...1 week does not a season make, however things are not off to a strong start.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
Coughlin's tough love will be good for Wilson in the long run.
Be patient Wilson owners.
...and his season isn't lost because of one fumble.
Be patient Wilson owners.
...and his season isn't lost because of one fumble.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
:trainwreck:
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
4 yds, 1 fumble, -2 for the night.
Dought Man
Footballguy
His season is done folks. Drop him for Ogletree and profit.
netnalp
Footballguy
I still think the plan is to do that. The running game needs a shot in the arm. They have to do something different.
jwinston2
Footballguy
New York Giants Rush Yds Avg Lng TD FumLAhmad Bradshaw 17 78 4.6 33 1 0David Wilson 2 4 2.0 3 0 1
Football Jones
Footballguy
The Giants desperately need Wilson. Coughlin showed the tough love & Wilson took his medicine, but Bradshaw's days as their starter are numbered. Wilson is simply that good & Bradshaw is just a guy. Wilson can be a fantasy monster in that offense.
He'll learn to hang onto the rock.
He'll learn to hang onto the rock.
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JHuber77
Footballguy
Get out of this thread. This isn't the Russell Wilson thread
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Thanks for the confirmation that I was correct
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Can I see a link?? Most ADP's that Ive seen have him going behind over half of that list. In all my leagues he certainly did.
So he has a history of fumbling and he can't block yet. Yeah, ok. I've been saying all along, his time will come but barring an injury to Bradshaw, that time will probably be next year. The Giants O-Line isn't very good and Bradshaw is a hell of a blocker. Also, I think AB did the best with what he was given. People forget Dallas had one of the better run D's in the league last year. Manning sucked tonight, so that didn't help the run game either.
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Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Well, that is pretty crazy how far he rose in the last week+. Other sites I looked at still had him close to RB40, not in the top RB30's. In my 3 leagues, all of which drafted in the last week, he went 103, 92, and 116. I took him at 116, but even his high of 92 is considerably lower than his ADP that this says of 74 (which is ludicrous). I dont think I ever saw him even go close to that in a mock I did.Just saying.
Yeah, but too bad Wilson still can't block. Oh let me guess, you didn't see the blocks Bradshaw put up tonight.
I didn't say anything bad about Bradshaw's blocking. he ran poorly though and a big play threat like Wilson will get his share of yards eventually, poor blocking won't keep them from getting the ball in the hands of their best players all year long
two_dollars
Footballguy
This is true. Bradshaw fumbled as well they just kept possession. I'm not anointing Wilson anytime soon. Bradshaw will have to get hurt for Wilson to take over this year, but we can't discount the entire preseason because of 1 play. Wilson will get more chances. He'll just have to make the most of them.
It will if he can't block AND can't hang on to the football. He ran poorly tonight? Jesus Christ himself wouldn't have been able to run through the #### the OL put out tonight in the 1st half. Just another reason why blocking from the RB spot will be crucial this year.
The entire preseason, as in the Bears game? Because the other 2 games he produced the following:Jets 8 for 26 (3.3 YPC)NE 8 for 13 (1.6 YPC)Kid has a lot to work on, mainly holding on to the ball and blocking. You know, things pretty important in football.
Bradshaw fumbled as well. yes the O line was bad which I think that helps Wilson as he ran two sweeps to the outside and is a big play guy maybe can break a few long ones, as he is more likely than Bradshaw too
It will help them in situational plays. But the OLine sucking is even more reason to have a good blocker in there to help keep Eli upright. He'll have some long TD's, no doubt. But I wouldn't want to start this guy hoping for one every week. Because without it, he's not start worthy.
GreenNGold
Footballguy
What play did he fumble on? I missed part of the game so may have missed it, but the stat line says he did not fumble. Also, Bradshaw ran decisively tonight and with confidence. His job is not in jeopardy. Expect him to continue to carry the load. Wilson will only be relevant this year if Bradshaw gets injured.
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2nd quarter, recovered by an offensive lineman. I expect Wilson to slip right back in next week and barring any further fumbles earn more and more of a role as the year rolls on as the Giants clearly need his game-breaking ability. what we saw from Bradshaw tonight confirms his pop is gone. they need a better runner and have one on the roster if he can handle the ball
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Oddly one of my opponents did. 3.3 pts (71 or yards)
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
This thread is truly for the hopeful David Wilson fans. I'm staying away from here, as someone who thinks AB is a good player and own him on many teams, this is almost as bad as what the right wing says about Obama. I got the wrong horse in this race to view the nonsense spouted here. Have a fun time in here.
GreenNGold
Footballguy
It is the blind love for anything rookie, while completely ignoring proven studs.
Sea Duck
Footballguy
Bradshaw was already down. Box score doesn't show a fumble.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Do you mean "if" or "when"??Certainly Bradshaw is going to get the lion's share if he's healthy, but I highly doubt that holds true all year. I think now is the time to go after Wilson if you own Bradshaw, but he may be had even easier if Wilson only sees return time the next couple weeks as well. IMO, that in itself says something about the carries tonight being even more about Coughlin making a statement since he still trusted Wilson on returns.'GreenNGold said:
Bradshaw has been lucky enough to not have a major injury yet, more hampering ones, but he's coming off a season where he looked the least impressive that I can remember as well.
GreenNGold
Footballguy
I definitely mean "if" not "when" -- injuries are simply unpredictable. If you have super-deep benches sure Wilson is worth a prayer. But in most of my leagues with benches of 6-7 players, you just can't afford to hold dead weight and hope for an injury.
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yeah, I hear ya.the scouting report I read actually said this was a bit of a problem in college.based on the play, I'd say he ran into traffic with reckless abandon and someone went after the ball and he wasnt ready for it. It sure threw some cold water on a hot player that's for sure.anyhow, it usually takes at least a half season to teach someone to change the way they carry the ball. Maybe a full season. He's still good to hold as a handcuff to Bradshaw, but I dont know that I'd expect much more from him this year.'Ministry of Pain said:
He did fumble the ball. but he doesnt have a long history of doing it like wilson does. Based on this I expect the coach will be more forgiving of Bradshaw than he will be of Wilson. I could be wrong and I hope I am. I like the way he runs and enjoy watching him play.'GreenNGold said:
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Giant 
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I like Wilson, but don't love him from a fantasy perspective
That fumble earned him 8-10 quarters in purgatory IMO.
Braddy will get a full workload in 10 days
Then the Giants get a Thursday night game or I would have said it would be Week 4 until you'd see some significant touches for him.
Coughlin is tough on:
a. fumblers
b. rookies
A rookie fumbler is going to be tough...
His floor will be a week from Monday.
here...I like Wilson, but don't love him from a fantasy perspective
That fumble earned him 8-10 quarters in purgatory IMO.
Braddy will get a full workload in 10 days
Then the Giants get a Thursday night game or I would have said it would be Week 4 until you'd see some significant touches for him.
Coughlin is tough on:
a. fumblers
b. rookies
A rookie fumbler is going to be tough...
His floor will be a week from Monday.
