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***David Wilson Bandwagon*** (1 Viewer)

Some of Wilson's teammates aren't happy about his back flips:http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/8741030/david-wilson-new-york-giants-asked-stop-post-touchdown-backflips

Justin Tuck wants to see David Wilson score many more touchdowns.But the New York Giants defensive captain has made it clear that he wants to see Wilson retire his end zone backflip touchdown celebration."I told him several times never to do that again," Tuck said Wednesday. "We're going to have another talk about not doing it. Everyone knows how athletic he is, but the last thing we need is him having some tweak injury by showing off to the crowd.
 
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His teammates not wanting him to do backflips is kinda silly. Wilson could do them in his sleep. He's not going to get injured, LOL. It's more about him being a rookie, but if I was Wilson, I'd keep doing them unless ordered to stop by Coughlin. It's his trademark. Or possibly wait until my 2nd year, then no way I'm not doing it then. Look at all the other dumb stuff players do after TDs. It's a non-issue, IMO.

I believe Wilson has more upside than Richardson or Martin working in that offense. I look for him to have a huge season next year.

 
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His teammates not wanting him to do backflips is kinda silly. Wilson could do them in his sleep, He's not going to get injured, LOL. It's more about him being a rookie, but if I was Wilson, I'd keep doing them unless ordered to stop by Coughlin. It's his trademark. Or possibly wait until my 2nd year, then no way I'm not doing it then. Look at all the other dumb stuff players do after TDs. It's a non-issue, IMO.I believe Wilson has more upside than Richardson or Martin working in that offense. I look for him to have a huge season next year.
I can definitely see limiting the risk of being injured being something that's discussed.What's riskier health wise.. doing a standing backflip, or doing the salsa? No one would think you'd break your leg jumping on home plate, how do you think Kendry Morales felt when it happened to him? sometimes showing off is just unnecessary.Big Wilson fan.. but I can see Tuck's side here.
 
Some of Wilson's teammates aren't happy about his back flips:http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/8741030/david-wilson-new-york-giants-asked-stop-post-touchdown-backflips

Justin Tuck wants to see David Wilson score many more touchdowns.But the New York Giants defensive captain has made it clear that he wants to see Wilson retire his end zone backflip touchdown celebration."I told him several times never to do that again," Tuck said Wednesday. "We're going to have another talk about not doing it. Everyone knows how athletic he is, but the last thing we need is him having some tweak injury by showing off to the crowd.
Justin Tuck needs to shut the hell up, a back flip isn't excessive celebration, he doesn't spike the ball he doesn't scream at people like Bradshaw does, he doesn't salsa dance, if that is his touchdown celebration then it is just fine.
 
Reminds me of that college player doing a chest bump and tearing his ACL. Think he played for FSU but I can't recall his name.

 
Here's the thing...other players have done backflips & nobody cared. You see players all the time take off & fly from the 2 or 3 yard line & tuck their head just before hitting the turf & do a summersault. Talk about an accident waiting to happen, LOL.

A controlled backflip by an athlete like Wilson is as safe as it gets. Also, something tells me Tuck isn't as worried about it as it might sound. It's about keeping him grounded. If Wilson wants to do a backflip, I bet Coughlin lets him. Why dampen the kid's enthusiasm?

You don't see Wilson doing the stupid exaggerated 1st down sign every time like other players. A flip is pretty benign compared to a lot of things in the NFL.

 
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Wasn't Ozzie Smith doing backflips every game into his 40's?

If i tried doing a backflip it would be a injury risk but for Wilson it isn't a real risk.

That being said, I am probably starting Wilson this week so I hope we find out if he continues them

 
Coughlin Presser:

Q: If Ahmad doesn’t play, David Wilson will see a lot of the carries:

A: More work.

Q: Is that something that you have to talk to him about?

A: Well yeah, we talked about it and he’s been well prepared in terms of building his load up. I’m sure he’s ready for it.

 
Wasn't Ozzie Smith doing backflips every game into his 40's?If i tried doing a backflip it would be a injury risk but for Wilson it isn't a real risk.That being said, I am probably starting Wilson this week so I hope we find out if he continues them
No. He did it on opening day every year and only opening day, not even in the playoffs, and retired before he was 40
 
Not sure if its a good thing or bad thing I IRd this guy. Probably still wouldn't start him even if Bradshaw is out, but dam, cant wait to see what he does next year....

 
I hate these ### #### Thursday night games, my choice is between BJE and Wilson, but BJE plays tonight. If I knew Bradshaw was out I'd start Wilson. Stupid NFL.

 
I hate these ### #### Thursday night games, my choice is between BJE and Wilson, but BJE plays tonight. If I knew Bradshaw was out I'd start Wilson. Stupid NFL.
I'm in the exact the boat. I'm leaning BJGE at the moment. Too many unknowns with Wilson currently.
 
Wasn't Ozzie Smith doing backflips every game into his 40's?

If i tried doing a backflip it would be a injury risk but for Wilson it isn't a real risk.

That being said, I am probably starting Wilson this week so I hope we find out if he continues them
Seems like the flips would be high risk for turf-toe.Rotoworld:

The New York Daily believes David Wilson "will end up starting" at Atlanta in Week 15.

Newsday and the New York Post also believe Wilson will start with Ahmad Bradshaw (knee, foot) likely to sit out Sunday's game.

Gilbride presser:



Q: Did your confidence in David Wilson rise after his performance this week?

A: He made the two good runs that were great to see. The one where he kind of lowered his shoulder and ran over a linebacker, which we’ve seen the toughness before and then when he had the opening that was exceptionally well blocked, to be able to take what would’ve been an eight-fifteen yard gain, and take it to the house, was great to see. He’s still got some areas that you guys won’t see that need some significant upgrading, so we can keep the entire offense going. It was tremendous to see his dynamism and what he was able to give us in that respect. It was a big lift.

Q: When a guy has a game like that, the media asks, “where has this guy been all season?” Are you still comfortable with waiting so long to let him progress?

A: Again, he’s had chances; that was the first time he’s done anything. That’s where you sometimes overlook those aspects; he has been able to carry, and in fact, until those two runs to the end, he was three runs for three yards. Again, it was great to see him do what he did, both in the special teams and the few times that he ran the ball and we were able to give it to him at the end. He did a terrific job for us so we’re ecstatic.

Q: It seems like the six-yard touchdown run may have been more impressive than the 50-yard touchdown run?

A: I’m not sure about that, but I was impressed and enjoyed both of them. It was the physical toughness of the six-yard (touchdown) that was great to see, and of course, the speed, you know he has. It was exceptionally well blocked, Martellus (Bennett) and Bear Pascoe and Henry (Hynoski) just cleaned it up, but there’s not many guys that would’ve been able to convert that 10-yard (run) into the touchdown the way he did. That was something we knew he had, again, it’s just a matter of not always getting it blocked like that. Can you make people miss? Well, he hasn’t done that necessarily, but I think his reads are getting better. I knew he would run hard. I didn’t know that he’d be able to run over a linebacker the way he did, which was tremendous to see. He’s just getting better and better, I think his comfort level is growing and he’s making fewer mistakes and his entry decisions in the run-game are giving him a better chance to use the skills he has, which is his toughness and speed.

 
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Coach Tom Coughlin expressed confidence that rookie David Wilson can physically handle 20-25 carries in a game if necessary.

"This guy has very, very good leg strength and he has got one ingredient that you look for in everybody and it's stamina," said Coughlin. "He has outstanding stamina. It appears that he can go all day long. So those are going to be assets he needs right down the stretch here." At this point, Wilson is the favorite to start for the Giants at Atlanta on Sunday. He's a legit RB1 option.

Source: Ralph Vacchiano on Twitter

 
this is why i said you have to just hold this guy all year...
That's easy to be said (especially now), but the fact is smaller bench leagues make that very difficult. Yes, Wilson had this upside and many knew it, but it took Bradshaw to get hurt (expected), then Brown to get hurt (for those who knew his history, still a good shot to happen) for this to take place. In this case, the lotto ticket was cashed, at least for a night.
Of course in a league with not much room on the bench then Wilson could have been dropped BUT not one of my leagues plays like that..
 
I'm way too excited for this guy.Which means expect like 14 for 42
Dont worry my friend. Im GUARANTEEING at least an 18 carry/106 yd 1td, 4 rec 35 yd stat line out of wilson this week. And, that is absolutely a ground floor estimate, I wouldnt be surprised if he were a top 3 or 4 back this week.He will usher many of us into the playoffs this week.
 
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Coach Tom Coughlin expressed confidence that rookie David Wilson can physically handle 20-25 carries in a game if necessary."This guy has very, very good leg strength and he has got one ingredient that you look for in everybody and it's stamina," said Coughlin. "He has outstanding stamina. It appears that he can go all day long. So those are going to be assets he needs right down the stretch here." At this point, Wilson is the favorite to start for the Giants at Atlanta on Sunday. He's a legit RB1 option.Source: Ralph Vacchiano on Twitter
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I'm way too excited for this guy.Which means expect like 14 for 42
Dont worry my friend. Im GUARANTEEING at least an 18 carry/106 yd 1td, 4 rec 35 yd stat line out of wilson this week. And, that is absolutely a ground floor estimate, I wouldnt be surprised if he were a top 3 or 4 back this week.He will usher many of us into the playoffs this week.
140 yards as his floor plus probably another 200 returning so 340 min? Sounds right. Probably will have about 500 yards on average. I feel better.
 
I'm way too excited for this guy.Which means expect like 14 for 42
Dont worry my friend. Im GUARANTEEING at least an 18 carry/106 yd 1td, 4 rec 35 yd stat line out of wilson this week. And, that is absolutely a ground floor estimate, I wouldnt be surprised if he were a top 3 or 4 back this week.He will usher many of us into the playoffs this week.
140 yards as his floor plus probably another 200 returning so 340 min? Sounds right. Probably will have about 500 yards on average. I feel better.
id love it if he starts AND returns kicks
 
Coach Tom Coughlin expressed confidence that rookie David Wilson can physically handle 20-25 carries in a game if necessary."This guy has very, very good leg strength and he has got one ingredient that you look for in everybody and it's stamina," said Coughlin. "He has outstanding stamina. It appears that he can go all day long. So those are going to be assets he needs right down the stretch here." At this point, Wilson is the favorite to start for the Giants at Atlanta on Sunday. He's a legit RB1 option.Source: Ralph Vacchiano on Twitter
Good info. Feel like he is getting into must-start territory. Drinking the kool-aid for sure :banned:
 
Ahmad Bradshaw (knee, foot) was held out of practice again on Friday.Bradshaw had his knee heavily wrapped and did see time on the stationary bike for the first time this week. The major New York papers have been almost unanimous in predicting that Bradshaw will not play at Atlanta on Sunday. The Giants' injury designations are typically announced around 1:00 ET on Fridays.
 
My question is, since I'm in a return yardage league as well, is he still gonna be the kick returner this week. If do, he could have a huge week.

 
FO has Wilson rated as the best KR in the league. He's so good it'd be hard to pull him entirely. My best guess is they'll try some other guys back there and give Wilson a few during the game if they aren't getting it done or the team needs a spark.

 
"Sigmund Bloom‏@SigmundBloom

David Wilson owners, start your engines! RT @art_stapleton Ahmad Bradshaw Out Sunday #nyg

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Ahmad Bradshaw - RB - Giants Ahmad Bradshaw (knee, foot) has been ruled out for Week 15 at Atlanta.It's hardly surprising news, as the signs had been increasingly pointing toward rookie David Wilson making his first start with Kregg Lumpkin chipping in on passing downs. As we've opined several times throughout the week, the explosive Wilson is a legit RB1 option against a Falcons defense allowing the eighth-most fantasy points to opposing backs.
Game Changer :football:
 
'ChargerPride said:
My question is, since I'm in a return yardage league as well, is he still gonna be the kick returner this week. If do, he could have a huge week.
Looks like he will still return kicksMy link

Even with Wilson moved into a starting role, Coughlin said he wants Wilson to continue returning kicks. They have a few other players ready just in case. Wilson amassed 227 kickoff return yards last week as well as one return touchdown.

"As far as I’m concerned, he’s going to stay there," Coughlin said. "How many he gets, that’s another question, but I’m not taking him out of that. Last week with the plus-49 field position for the day, it was quite a bit different than the -15 the week before."
 
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'Sabertooth said:
If Bradshaw does not play I think 15 for 70, 2 for 20, .5 td.
WOW....super conservative and very low estimate imo.
I tend towards the conservative side.
90 total yards and .5 TDs is conservative? Ahmad Bradshaw is averaging 89 yards and .4 TDs per game (and he plays extensively in the passing game while Wilson likely will not).
So you expect lower? I'll take the over. Just go on record please so we can bump your post. :thumbup:
 
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Watch out for the Torain train!Frankly, Ryan Torain is a better pass blocker. Has a lot more experience. Prolly Eli will prefer Torain as the grind it out back. Love Wilson, hope he does great, but don't expect another 2 TD game. David Wilson will start. But another RB will start too. I expect that to be Ryan Torain.
 
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Sounds like a guy who lost out on the Wilson sweepstakes to me. There's a reason nobody has picked up Torain this year, so don't think after being there a week he's gonna do come in and touch the rock alot. Wilson will be the man and have a real nice game for the lucky ones who picked him up.

 
'OG_GF said:
'ImTheScientist said:
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Watch out for the Torain train!Frankly, Ryan Torain is a better pass blocker. Has a lot more experience. Prolly Eli will prefer Torain as the grind it out back. Love Wilson, hope he does great, but don't expect another 2 TD game. David Wilson will start. But another RB will start too. I expect that to be Ryan Torain.
Giants coaches have only mentioned Lumpkin as getting some snaps when Wilson comes out. I wouldn't expect it to result in many touches.
 
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'OG_GF said:
'ImTheScientist said:
CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Watch out for the Torain train!Frankly, Ryan Torain is a better pass blocker. Has a lot more experience. Prolly Eli will prefer Torain as the grind it out back. Love Wilson, hope he does great, but don't expect another 2 TD game. David Wilson will start. But another RB will start too. I expect that to be Ryan Torain.
This is misinformation. PFF rated Torain a poor pass blocker when he was with the Redskins.
 
Is there anyone who thinks Coughlin is bluffing about using Wilson o beat kick returns?
I'd expect the other KR will be used and Wilson will get some if those returners aren't effective.
I suspect he'll also look at the score. If ATL gets ahead, I'd expect they use Wilson.
I agree and possibly on kick offs to start the game, start the 2nd half or one at the end of each half if there is only a few seconds left on the clock.
 

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