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Megan Manfull, writing for the Sporting News, reports Houston Texans RB Domanick Davis (knee) is still stuggling with his return from knee surgery. Davis has spent the offseason focusing only on rehab. He was expected to participate in the team's minicamps, but after only one walk through, Davis' knee swelled up again. There is some thought this could be an ongoing issue for Davis.

 
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I'm betting the Texans which they could have a mulligan on that first 1.1 pick they used this year...
Thomas Jones / Michael Bennett / TJ Duckett to the Texans rumors in 3...2...1....
 
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Despite new HC Gary Kubiak's hope that RB Domanick Davis would participate in minicamp, Davis' left knee didn't allow it. Kubiak said the next month will be important for Davis because he is getting behind. "When he went through a couple of the walk throughs last week, his knee did swell up on him a little bit," Kubiak said. "It's not so important right now that he's ready to play today, so we'll be smart with him."
Kubiak says he likes the depth behind Davis. He looks like he'll need it.J

 
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the guy the had last year and did fine when in the game WELLS is out there..am looking for where he lands he did look pretty good last year when he got his chance..not sure why he is still not signed b anyone as of yet really..would be a great back up for LJ in KC if Priest cant go to.

 
I thought they were deep at RB.

HE is ranked 15 by FBGs. They only have 1 top Rushing D this year.

This explains why he's 15??

 
Good reason why I've been avoiding him in drafts for the most part.

I was definitely questioning why the Texans were giving up on him when all the Reggie Bush hype was around. But that didn't mean I couldn't still be concerned about their horrible OL and how his knees responds...

 
If going through a walk through causes a bunch of swelling, I can see another surgery coming. DD is an extremely risky pick.

 
I'll ask again, what is different about this news than when it was first reported over a week ago? There doesn't seem to be anything since the mini-camp swelling incident.

 
the guy the had last year and did fine when in the game WELLS is out there..am looking for where he lands he did look pretty good last year when he got his chance..not sure why he is still not signed b anyone as of yet really..would be a great back up for LJ in KC if Priest cant go to.
This is one reason why my Texans are MAROOOOONS.......They brought in Antowain Smith for veteran leadership at RB and for insurance to DD........yet the one guy who has gotten shat on constantly in the organization (Wells) is released and not given the opportunity to return.

WTF?

Wells has always performed in the absence of DD yet we had no need for a RB when we passed on Reggie. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm........lookin' like a real smart choice there. DD can't even walk without his knee swellin' up. The backfield should look like DD, Wells, Bush and Morency. That is good RB depth.

DD, ASmith, Morency and Lundy just doesn't quite look the same.

 
the guy the had last year and did fine when in the game WELLS is out there..am looking for where he lands he did look pretty good last year when he got his chance..not sure why he is still not signed b anyone as of yet really..would be a great back up for LJ in KC if Priest cant go to.
This is one reason why my Texans are MAROOOOONS.......They brought in Antowain Smith for veteran leadership at RB and for insurance to DD........yet the one guy who has gotten shat on constantly in the organization (Wells) is released and not given the opportunity to return.

WTF?

Wells has always performed in the absence of DD yet we had no need for a RB when we passed on Reggie. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm........lookin' like a real smart choice there. DD can't even walk without his knee swellin' up. The backfield should look like DD, Wells, Bush and Morency. That is good RB depth.

DD, ASmith, Morency and Lundy just doesn't quite look the same.
Isn't he still available?? That should say something about the guy.I have Davis in a dynasty and was ecstatic when they passed on Bush, but this news is getting old. It is a PPR league so Davis is a 'stud' when healthy but I'm beginning to think I better move him before this news gets any worse!! :hot:

 
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Despite new HC Gary Kubiak's hope that RB Domanick Davis would participate in minicamp, Davis' left knee didn't allow it. Kubiak said the next month will be important for Davis because he is getting behind. "When he went through a couple of the walk throughs last week, his knee did swell up on him a little bit," Kubiak said. "It's not so important right now that he's ready to play today, so we'll be smart with him."
Kubiak says he likes the depth behind Davis. He looks like he'll need it.J
I would guess that Kubiak said that mainly to not appear desparate when he goes to try to trade for another RB. :D
 
I say this, news like this makes my decision to keep Davis or Kevin Jones a lot easier.

I think I'm going to try and move Davis for a WR before anything worse hits the wire.

 
For any Texans homers, is Wells a bad guy off the field or something?

I would think they'd be making an offer to re-sign him at this stage. What am I missing?

 
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For any Texans homers, is Wells a bad guy off the field or something?

I would think they'd be making an offer to resign him at this stage. What am I missing?
It appears that nobody wants this guy.I would think Wells would not want to re-sign with Houston at this point because that's just plain insulting to wait this long.

If (when) some starting or backup RB gets seriously injured in camp, Wells should be one of the first guys that is looked at.

 
I'll ask again, what is different about this news than when it was first reported over a week ago? There doesn't seem to be anything since the mini-camp swelling incident.
:goodposting: Is this new? Megan Manfull was the one that reported the issue at mini-camp and they said DD wouldn't be ready until training camp (I think that is what was said).

Is there a link to this new article or did she write the same story in Sporting News and it is behind the online article in the Houston Chronicle?

 
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Despite new HC Gary Kubiak's hope that RB Domanick Davis would participate in minicamp, Davis' left knee didn't allow it. Kubiak said the next month will be important for Davis because he is getting behind. "When he went through a couple of the walk throughs last week, his knee did swell up on him a little bit," Kubiak said. "It's not so important right now that he's ready to play today, so we'll be smart with him."
Kubiak says he likes the depth behind Davis. He looks like he'll need it.J
I don't think this is a big deal. If it were two weeks before the season started then it would be a big deal
 
Domanick Davis last season= 976 Yards rushing, 2 Touchdowns (11 games)

Antowain Smith Last season= 652 yards rushing, 3 Touchdowns (never had more than 18 carries in a game)

Smith may end up being the starter if Davis can't get healthy.

Micheal Bennet shouldn't even be an option. The guy is a bum and he has been stealing paychecks for years.

T.J. Duckett is no different than Ron Dayne was in NY. He just never panned out the way everyone was hoping and I dont think he would be any better in Houston.

I dont think the Texans would be willing to give up what it would take to get Thomas Jones, even though he would be huge on this team.

The guy that could really make an impact on this team is.........Reggie Bush. Great pick Houston!

 
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Domanick Davis last season= 976 Yards rushing, 2 Touchdowns (11 games)

Antowain Smith Last season= 652 yards rushing, 3 Touchdowns (never had more than 18 carries in a game)

Smith may end up being the starter if Davis can't get healthy.
That's a little disingenuous. Davis averaged 4.2 yards per carry to Smith's 4.0. Davis averaged 8.6 yards per reception to Smith's 3.8. Davis only had 2 rushing TDs, but he also had 4 receiving, giving him 6 TDs on 269 touches (1 per 44.8) compared to Smith's 2 on 178 (one per 89). Smith may well wind up the starter if Davis can't get healthy, but it's not because he's a better RB, it's simply because Davis can't get healthy.Fun stat: DomDavis has averaged 111.77 yards per game over his career, despite being a backup in maybe a 10th of those games. Clinton Portis has averaged 117.65 yards per game over his career, despite only being a backup in 1/15th of those games.

 
Domanick Davis last season= 976 Yards rushing, 2 Touchdowns (11 games)

Antowain Smith Last season= 652 yards rushing, 3 Touchdowns (never had more than 18 carries in a game)

Smith may end up being the starter if Davis can't get healthy.
That's a little disingenuous. Davis averaged 4.2 yards per carry to Smith's 4.0. Davis averaged 8.6 yards per reception to Smith's 3.8. Davis only had 2 rushing TDs, but he also had 4 receiving, giving him 6 TDs on 269 touches (1 per 44.8) compared to Smith's 2 on 178 (one per 89). Smith may well wind up the starter if Davis can't get healthy, but it's not because he's a better RB, it's simply because Davis can't get healthy.Fun stat: DomDavis has averaged 111.77 yards per game over his career, despite being a backup in maybe a 10th of those games. Clinton Portis has averaged 117.65 yards per game over his career, despite only being a backup in 1/15th of those games.
That is exactly what I said, IF DAVIS CANT GET HEALTHY. My point was that Domanick Davis is much better than Smith and Smith barely got any carries last season even on a crappy New Orleans team that was missing ##### MCSuckister.

 
the guy the had last year and did fine when in the game WELLS is out there..am looking for where he lands he did look pretty good last year when he got his chance..not sure why he is still not signed b anyone as of yet really..would be a great back up for LJ in KC if Priest cant go to.
This is one reason why my Texans are MAROOOOONS.......They brought in Antowain Smith for veteran leadership at RB and for insurance to DD........yet the one guy who has gotten shat on constantly in the organization (Wells) is released and not given the opportunity to return.

WTF?

Wells has always performed in the absence of DD yet we had no need for a RB when we passed on Reggie. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm........lookin' like a real smart choice there. DD can't even walk without his knee swellin' up. The backfield should look like DD, Wells, Bush and Morency. That is good RB depth.

DD, ASmith, Morency and Lundy just doesn't quite look the same.
Wells has never performed particularly well. He is an adequate third string rb who will play special teams and give effort. But let's not overstate his value as a rusher. He has averaged 3.6 yards per carry the last 2 years to boost his career average to 3.1. It is just that he was so bad his first two years, that now when he rushes 21 times for 80 yardds, it seems awesome.
 
I'll ask again, what is different about this news than when it was first reported over a week ago? There doesn't seem to be anything since the mini-camp swelling incident.
:goodposting: Is this new? Megan Manfull was the one that reported the issue at mini-camp and they said DD wouldn't be ready until training camp (I think that is what was said).

Is there a link to this new article or did she write the same story in Sporting News and it is behind the online article in the Houston Chronicle?
Your timelines are a little off. This is the third article of Dom missing time. First all mini camps. Then the first round of OTA's.

This article, is about the second round of OTA's, where Dom was definitely projected to attend. They tried him and his knee swelled up in walk throughs.

Still early, but not good.

 
Yes.

Do you think that they brought Antowain Smith in just as extra-extra insurance? This is something I am a little confused about. AS has never impressed me. He can carry the load but the load usually doesn't get very far. On the other hand there is a young guy like Morency who seems to be a talent. In fact on this board at this time last year I remember many people had the opinion that he may be a better runner than Davis. So is Smith the real back-up or is he just nice to have around, a plan C if everything goes to pot?

:confused:

 
Do you think that they brought Antowain Smith in just as extra-extra insurance? This is something I am a little confused about. AS has never impressed me. He can carry the load but the load usually doesn't get very far. On the other hand there is a young guy like Morency who seems to be a talent. In fact on this board at this time last year I remember many people had the opinion that he may be a better runner than Davis. So is Smith the real back-up or is he just nice to have around, a plan C if everything goes to pot?

:confused:

That wasn't the question. The question was whether or not Morency could carry the load IF he was given the chance. Basically saying that if, for some reason, Morency had the opportunity, I think he could produce.

I know it was against the Niners, but the one start Morency did have, he performed well. Here is the stat line of all his games. The last game is the one he started:

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/417237/gamelogs/2005

 
Do you think that they brought Antowain Smith in just as extra-extra insurance? This is something I am a little confused about. AS has never impressed me. He can carry the load but the load usually doesn't get very far. On the other hand there is a young guy like Morency who seems to be a talent. In fact on this board at this time last year I remember many people had the opinion that he may be a better runner than Davis. So is Smith the real back-up or is he just nice to have around, a plan C if everything goes to pot? :confused:
Yes, it is extra-extra insurance. Morency will explode if DD goes down. He wasn't ready last year, but he will be this year.I say spend a late first/early 2nd, and a 12th on DD/Morency and laugh your way to the championship without any worry.

 
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Wannabe,

I wasn't questioning your repsone of saying yes at all, sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I was sort of posing a new question myself. Who do you think is the primary backup in Houston? I think that Vernand Morency could probably carry the load as he seems to be a very gifted athlete in general (played baseball before he played football). What I am wondering is if Houston has soured on him somehow. There was lots of hype on the board about his potential last year but now he may be buried in the depth chart. I would like to see him get a shot if DD can't go.

 
I'll ask again, what is different about this news than when it was first reported over a week ago? There doesn't seem to be anything since the mini-camp swelling incident.
:goodposting: Is this new? Megan Manfull was the one that reported the issue at mini-camp and they said DD wouldn't be ready until training camp (I think that is what was said).

Is there a link to this new article or did she write the same story in Sporting News and it is behind the online article in the Houston Chronicle?
Your timelines are a little off. This is the third article of Dom missing time. First all mini camps. Then the first round of OTA's.

This article, is about the second round of OTA's, where Dom was definitely projected to attend. They tried him and his knee swelled up in walk throughs.

Still early, but not good.
???I thought the team was off between June 14-July 27th when training camp starts.

 
I think thay should sit DD and start a young guy like Morency who seems to be a talent guy. And if he only last 5or 6 games that will give DD time to heal. I think if Morency had the opportunity, I think he could produce. and keep the job

 
I think thay should sit DD and start a young guy like Morency who seems to be a talent guy. And if he only last 5or 6 games that will give DD time to heal. I think if Morency had the opportunity, I think he could produce. and keep the job
Talk about no respect for Davis.... I'm as big a fan of Morency as the next guy, but if he's healthy, he's a top 5 back.
 
I think thay should sit DD and start a young guy like Morency who seems to be a talent guy. And if he only last 5or 6 games that will give DD time to heal. I think if Morency had the opportunity, I think he could produce. and keep the job
Talk about no respect for Davis.... I'm as big a fan of Morency as the next guy, but if he's healthy, he's a top 5 back.
I like DD too but all i am saying if he not healthy he should sit and get healthy
 
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I'll ask again, what is different about this news than when it was first reported over a week ago? There doesn't seem to be anything since the mini-camp swelling incident.
:goodposting: Is this new? Megan Manfull was the one that reported the issue at mini-camp and they said DD wouldn't be ready until training camp (I think that is what was said).

Is there a link to this new article or did she write the same story in Sporting News and it is behind the online article in the Houston Chronicle?
Your timelines are a little off. This is the third article of Dom missing time. First all mini camps. Then the first round of OTA's.

This article, is about the second round of OTA's, where Dom was definitely projected to attend. They tried him and his knee swelled up in walk throughs.

Still early, but not good.
???I thought the team was off between June 14-July 27th when training camp starts.
That was what I thought as well.The OP said that it was Megan Manfull in the Sporting News and the last article that was linked to another article in the Houston Chronicle's web site. There was no link in this thread, i.e. no dated articel on a web site.

Since there haven't been any practices since the last article, I think, and training camp hasn't started, it seems to me that the Sporting News picked up the Chronicle's article and there hasn't been any real news.

 
Do you think that they brought Antowain Smith in just as extra-extra insurance? This is something I am a little confused about. AS has never impressed me. He can carry the load but the load usually doesn't get very far. On the other hand there is a young guy like Morency who seems to be a talent. In fact on this board at this time last year I remember many people had the opinion that he may be a better runner than Davis. So is Smith the real back-up or is he just nice to have around, a plan C if everything goes to pot? :confused:
Yes, it is extra-extra insurance. Morency will explode if DD goes down. He wasn't ready last year, but he will be this year.I say spend a late first/early 2nd, and a 12th on DD/Morency and laugh your way to the championship without any worry.
:goodposting: I said this exact thing in another thread. DD per game has put up top 5-10 numbers in all his career games.

In 2004, he was #5 in FBG's scoring (I think #2 or #3 in PPR) and that was even though he only played 15 games.

In 2005, he was #17 in only 11 games. If you had Wells/Morency (Morency started week 17 as his backup, then over 16 games, you had the #6 RB.

 
Kubiak says he likes the depth behind Davis. He looks like he'll need it.
He should, IMO. I like Morency and (if they're smart enough to re-sign him...info anyone?) Wells.DD missing some time is a given. How much is the question. I like the guy, but don't like a RB2 I can't (reasonably) count on to be in the lineup.

 
Kubiak says he likes the depth behind Davis. He looks like he'll need it.
He should, IMO. I like Morency and (if they're smart enough to re-sign him...info anyone?) Wells.DD missing some time is a given. How much is the question. I like the guy, but don't like a RB2 I can't (reasonably) count on to be in the lineup.
Managemnet doesn't like Morency, he dances too much... If DD was healthy Mornecy would be gone... Wells will not be a Texan again either, A Smith brings the same thing to the table that Wells did...

If they pick up another RB it will be a Bennett kind of runner not a bruiser...

Maybe they can trade Mario and next years 1st round pick for Reggie Bush... :wall:

 
Kubiak says he likes the depth behind Davis. He looks like he'll need it.
He should, IMO. I like Morency and (if they're smart enough to re-sign him...info anyone?) Wells.DD missing some time is a given. How much is the question. I like the guy, but don't like a RB2 I can't (reasonably) count on to be in the lineup.
If you like Morency, then you should love DD. The Houston RB, with DD for 26 games, Wells for 5 and Morency for 1 has been #5 in 2004 and #6/7 in 2005. If you can draft that as an RB2, then it seems like you should.Look at the other RBs in that slot and tell me how many of them have been that good in the last two years. The upside of the equation is that if DD gets healthy and plays 15-16 games, he is pretty much a lock in the top 10. If it is like 2005, you still get a top 10 RB with a really, really cheap handcuff. There aren't that many RBs that you can say that about when you get outside of the guys already going in the top of the 1st round.

 
Look at the other RBs in that slot and tell me how many of them have been that good in the last two years. The upside of the equation is that if DD gets healthy and plays 15-16 games, he is pretty much a lock in the top 10. If it is like 2005, you still get a top 10 RB with a really, really cheap handcuff. There aren't that many RBs that you can say that about when you get outside of the guys already going in the top of the 1st round.

I love that theory, and in fact employed it recently. The only thing that concerns me right now is that I am not sure if Morency is his handcuff.

 
Look at the other RBs in that slot and tell me how many of them have been that good in the last two years. The upside of the equation is that if DD gets healthy and plays 15-16 games, he is pretty much a lock in the top 10. If it is like 2005, you still get a top 10 RB with a really, really cheap handcuff. There aren't that many RBs that you can say that about when you get outside of the guys already going in the top of the 1st round.
I love that theory, and in fact employed it recently. The only thing that concerns me right now is that I am not sure if Morency is his handcuff.

Good point, but I would bet that we have a real good idea about the handcuff before most drafts. Last year Wells and Morency (for week 17) were probably both on the waiver wire, if not handcuffed already, before DD was on the injured list.

I didn't really think about the handcuff with DD last year as much because he played 15 games in 2004 and only missed one game in 2003 once he took over the starting position. Even though DD has the "injury risk" label, last year was really the only year he was injured. If you read any of the RB injury threads I think it is Yudkin that usually states that the average RB misses 1 game a year.

This year, however, I will most definitely draft his handcuff (I have DD as a keeper, i.e. my RB2) and continue to check it throughout the year because last year proved that his handcuff had value. Now that they are moving to a Denver offense, I think it will be the same this year.

 
For any Texans homers, is Wells a bad guy off the field or something?

I would think they'd be making an offer to resign him at this stage. What am I missing?
It appears that nobody wants this guy.I would think Wells would not want to re-sign with Houston at this point because that's just plain insulting to wait this long.

If (when) some starting or backup RB gets seriously injured in camp, Wells should be one of the first guys that is looked at.
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I think thay should sit DD and start a young guy like Morency who seems to be a talent guy. And if he only last 5or 6 games that will give DD time to heal. I think if Morency had the opportunity, I think he could produce. and keep the job
Morency is actually eight months older than Domanick Davis.
 
Morency is actually eight months older than Domanick Davis.

True, he was drafted by the Colorado Rockies out of high school and played Baseball three years before playing college football.

 
I think thay should sit DD and start a young guy like Morency who seems to be a talent guy. And if he only last 5or 6 games that will give DD time to heal. I think if Morency had the opportunity, I think he could produce. and keep the job
Morency is actually eight months older than Domanick Davis.
Huh. That's pretty interesting.
 
I think thay should sit DD and start a young guy like Morency who seems to be a talent guy. And if he only last 5or 6 games that will give DD time to heal. I think if Morency had the opportunity, I think he could produce. and keep the job
Morency is actually eight months older than Domanick Davis.
Huh. That's pretty interesting.
But his legs are lower mileage for his age, by far.
 
Domanick Davis last season= 976 Yards rushing, 2 Touchdowns (11 games)

Antowain Smith Last season= 652 yards rushing, 3 Touchdowns (never had more than 18 carries in a game)

Smith may end up being the starter if Davis can't get healthy.
That's a little disingenuous. Davis averaged 4.2 yards per carry to Smith's 4.0. Davis averaged 8.6 yards per reception to Smith's 3.8. Davis only had 2 rushing TDs, but he also had 4 receiving, giving him 6 TDs on 269 touches (1 per 44.8) compared to Smith's 2 on 178 (one per 89). Smith may well wind up the starter if Davis can't get healthy, but it's not because he's a better RB, it's simply because Davis can't get healthy.Fun stat: DomDavis has averaged 111.77 yards per game over his career, despite being a backup in maybe a 10th of those games. Clinton Portis has averaged 117.65 yards per game over his career, despite only being a backup in 1/15th of those games.
Davis has also been a top 10 RB in PPG throughout his short career. I hope he slides because I'd love having him on my roster.
 
I like Wells, but in the new offense he needs to be able to cut and have a burst, Wells was more of a N/S style, getting 3 yds in a cloud of dust and occasionally breaking one for good yardage.

Kubiak is an offensive coach, all have the mindset that they can plug anyone into their system and win, so not picking Bush #1 isn't all that surprising. The D needed massive help, and they got it.

 
I'll ask again, what is different about this news than when it was first reported over a week ago? There doesn't seem to be anything since the mini-camp swelling incident.
:goodposting: Is this new? Megan Manfull was the one that reported the issue at mini-camp and they said DD wouldn't be ready until training camp (I think that is what was said).

Is there a link to this new article or did she write the same story in Sporting News and it is behind the online article in the Houston Chronicle?
Your timelines are a little off. This is the third article of Dom missing time. First all mini camps. Then the first round of OTA's.

This article, is about the second round of OTA's, where Dom was definitely projected to attend. They tried him and his knee swelled up in walk throughs.

Still early, but not good.
???I thought the team was off between June 14-July 27th when training camp starts.
There's not date on this article which makes it confusing. It's older and from the 2nd round of OTA's early June.
 

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