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Dazed & Confused (2 Viewers)

Also love the scene in Pickford's bedroom when Slater is 'weighing' the bag of pot while the dad is banging at the door..

 
my favorite wooderson line, love how he delivers it right in front of the two dweebs:

You ought to ditch the two geeks you're in the car with now and get in with us. But that's all right, we'll worry about that later.
One of my favourite lines ever.The best part is not just that he says it in front of the two guys, but that she's DRIVING them in the car he's asking her to ditch.

Classic.
Enjoy
 
The only real complaint I have with the movie was the casting of the Mitch character. That kid was God awful. They needed someone else in that role.

 
The only real complaint I have with the movie was the casting of the Mitch character. That kid was God awful. They needed someone else in that role.
See, this is what I was getting at-- I sort of agree that his acting was 'uncomfortable;, but maybe the character was supposed to act that way? Ironically, that would make him a great actor..
 
my favorite wooderson line, love how he delivers it right in front of the two dweebs:

You ought to ditch the two geeks you're in the car with now and get in with us. But that's all right, we'll worry about that later.
One of my favourite lines ever.The best part is not just that he says it in front of the two guys, but that she's DRIVING them in the car he's asking her to ditch.

Classic.
Enjoy
"Say, you need a ride?""Ahhh, no... I got my own car, thanks."

:boxing:

 
The only real complaint I have with the movie was the casting of the Mitch character. That kid was God awful. They needed someone else in that role.
See, this is what I was getting at-- I sort of agree that his acting was 'uncomfortable;, but maybe the character was supposed to act that way? Ironically, that would make him a great actor..
I haven't seen or heard from him much in movies so my guess is he just sucked.
 
The only real complaint I have with the movie was the casting of the Mitch character. That kid was God awful. They needed someone else in that role.
See, this is what I was getting at-- I sort of agree that his acting was 'uncomfortable;, but maybe the character was supposed to act that way? Ironically, that would make him a great actor..
I haven't seen or heard from him much in movies so my guess is he just sucked.
good point..
 
The only real complaint I have with the movie was the casting of the Mitch character. That kid was God awful. They needed someone else in that role.
See, this is what I was getting at-- I sort of agree that his acting was 'uncomfortable;, but maybe the character was supposed to act that way? Ironically, that would make him a great actor..
I haven't seen or heard from him much in movies so my guess is he just sucked.
Yep. He sucked.
 
One of the greats, IMO. Also, the rare film (as someone mentioned earlier) where there's really no antagonist, no conflict, no story arcs, no "plot" so to speak. Just a simple period piece.
Want to work on a rule set
Ooooooh. This is not a bad idea.
I emphatically give this idea a "HELL YES!" Do it.
rules are simple. smoke everytime someone smokes in the film.
:goodposting: If you only knew, you would shake your head.
 
I like Dazed but prefer Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Ridiculous.Wooderson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spiccolli = end of debate. (note the period is in bold & italics)

 
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Wooderson: Say, man, you got a joint?

Mitch: No, not on me, man.

Wooderson: It'd be a lot cooler if you did.
I laughed for probably a half hour straight the first time I heard this exchange. :shrug:
Wooderson = one of the best characters ever.
That's the story of the hurricane . . .
one of the better movie / song sequences.. Wooderson TAKES OVER that room..
 
When the 8th graders are sitting in class before school is let out, the kid with the keys at the door is wearing a KISS shirt that shows the album "Rock And Roll Over." That album was released in December 1976, 4 months AFTER the time frame of the scene.

Just sayin.

 
I like Dazed but prefer Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Ridiculous.Wooderson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spiccolli = end of debate. (note the period is in bold & italics)
Meh. They're two different types of movies IMO.Fast Times was a contemporary teen comedy.

Dazed was a nostalgic semi-coming-of-age movie.

 
my favorite exchange:

Melvin Spivey (Jason O. Smith): "We just wanna know somethin', okay? Are you gonna be bleepin' that later, or are you gonna be a little wimp, huh?"Mitch: "How do you know I haven't already?"Melvin: "Oh, bleep, boy! Get outta here! I think it's past your bedtime. Run along."
 
I like Dazed but prefer Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Ridiculous.Wooderson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spiccolli = end of debate. (note the period is in bold & italics)
Meh. They're two different types of movies IMO.Fast Times was a contemporary teen comedy.

Dazed was a nostalgic semi-coming-of-age movie.
The characters in Fast Times were so much more of a caricature than Dazed.Some of those characters in Dazed were just very, very real. Pickford, for example (A very underrated character). Not the king stud, didn't play a sport, but had the cool car, hot chick, and always seemed to have parents heading out of town. I knew that kid.

 
I like Dazed but prefer Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Ridiculous.Wooderson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spiccolli = end of debate. (note the period is in bold & italics)
Meh. They're two different types of movies IMO.Fast Times was a contemporary teen comedy.

Dazed was a nostalgic semi-coming-of-age movie.
The characters in Fast Times were so much more of a caricature than Dazed.Some of those characters in Dazed were just very, very real. Pickford, for example (A very underrated character). Not the king stud, didn't play a sport, but had the cool car, hot chick, and always seemed to have parents heading out of town. I knew that kid.
Even though my friends and I grew up in the late 80s early 90s, we were able to ID one of us for every person in that movie. It was uncanny.A bunch of friends in college said the same thing about their high school pals.

The characters are like American archetypes or something.

 
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I emphatically give this idea a "HELL YES!" Do it.
rules are simple. smoke everytime someone smokes in the film.
:shrug: If you only knew, you would shake your head.
i know all too well. and it's ####in insane.
:thumbup: no you really don't know what they are talking about when it comes to rule set
oh yeah. never even crossed my mind. well, i passed teh #### test.
 
I think the closest thing to a "main" plot for the movie was the ongoing cat and mouse suspense of the incoming Freshmen avoiding getting paddled by the new Seniors.

That's pretty much the unifying thread of the movie.

 
I like Dazed but prefer Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Ridiculous.Wooderson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spiccolli = end of debate. (note the period is in bold & italics)
Meh. They're two different types of movies IMO.Fast Times was a contemporary teen comedy.

Dazed was a nostalgic semi-coming-of-age movie.
The characters in Fast Times were so much more of a caricature than Dazed.Some of those characters in Dazed were just very, very real. Pickford, for example (A very underrated character). Not the king stud, didn't play a sport, but had the cool car, hot chick, and always seemed to have parents heading out of town. I knew that kid.
In high school I knew EVERY character in D&C. Even Wooderson. Seriously, who didn't have some creepy 30 year old hanging out with the high school crowd?
 
One of the greats, IMO. Also, the rare film (as someone mentioned earlier) where there's really no antagonist, no conflict, no story arcs, no "plot" so to speak. Just a simple period piece.
An all time favorite of mine too. However, there is a conflict in the plot - it just lurks around the edges like the laws and the man do to a stoner's world.Pink has to decide whether to sign the high school drug policy and play quarterback. They give it to him in the beginning. He throws it away. His offensive lineman give it back, beg him to sign it, then one of them (the red headed guy) berates him about it at the party while sitting in his truck, then the movie closes with him crumpling it up and throwing it in his coach's face just before they take off to get Aerosmith tickets.

Conflict = the choice between playing by all the rules, or sticking to what you love and your "loser friends."

Pink is a hero. He makes the moral choice. :yes:
Pink might be the coolest kid in the school but he is not a hero. He might be screwing the coach with his "stance" but he is also screwing his friends on the football team. He is the QB, he is supposed to be their leader. Crumpling up the paper and throwing it in the coaches face is not leading. Benny (Cole Hauser) is right in calling out Pink at the party. Pink is putting himself above his teammate/friends.Pink's not a hero, he screwed up at the end.

 
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I like Dazed but prefer Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Ridiculous.Wooderson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spiccolli = end of debate. (note the period is in bold & italics)
Meh. They're two different types of movies IMO.Fast Times was a contemporary teen comedy.

Dazed was a nostalgic semi-coming-of-age movie.
The characters in Fast Times were so much more of a caricature than Dazed.Some of those characters in Dazed were just very, very real. Pickford, for example (A very underrated character). Not the king stud, didn't play a sport, but had the cool car, hot chick, and always seemed to have parents heading out of town. I knew that kid.
Even though my friends and I grew up in the late 80s early 90s, we were able to ID one of us for every person in that movie. It was uncanny.A bunch of friends in college said the same thing about their high school pals.

The characters are like American archetypes or something.
:no: i was melvin! i need to get a soul pole!!!
 
The characters in Fast Times were so much more of a caricature than Dazed.

Some of those characters in Dazed were just very, very real. Pickford, for example (A very underrated character). Not the king stud, didn't play a sport, but had the cool car, hot chick, and always seemed to have parents heading out of town. I knew that kid.
Even though my friends and I grew up in the late 80s early 90s, we were able to ID one of us for every person in that movie. It was uncanny.A bunch of friends in college said the same thing about their high school pals.

The characters are like American archetypes or something.
:hophead: i was melvin! i need to get a soul pole!!!
I thought most of the kids in my grade were lame dooshes, so I hung out with all the guys in the class below me. Consequently, I usually dated/hooked up with girls in that same younger class. My best friend and partner-in-crime was probably the most popular guy in the school, played football, and got insane amounts of hot tail. He was unanimously considered the "Pink" of our group. After I graduated and continued to hang with the same crowd (all still seniors in high school), this made me....Wooderson. :shrug:

 
That's another thing: they take great pains to show how Pink isn't just the "quarterback" or "ladies man" but also friends with every single group of people in the story. He's even buddies with the geeks.

My best friend was exactly like this. He wasn't the toughest guy or the biggest wastoid or the best athlete. He was just good at everything (without being "great") and never had a bad thing to say about anyone. Everyone respected him. The girls loved him and nobody ever wanted to mess with him. Even the geeks considered him their friend.

I'll say it again: this movie is all about American archetypes. It's uncanny.

 
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That's another thing: they take great pains to show how Pink isn't just the "quarterback" or "ladies man" but also friends with every single group of people in the story. He's even buddies with the geeks.My best friend was exactly like this. He wasn't the toughest guy or the biggest wastoid or the best athlete. He was just good at everything (without being "great") and never had a bad thing to say about anyone. Everyone respected him. The girls loved him and nobody ever wanted to mess with him. Even the geeks considered him their friend. I'll say it again: this movie is all about American archetypes. It's uncanny.
:yawn: I just love this movie.. besides the characters, EVERYONE remembers that "last day of school" feeling...
 
massraider said:
RudiStein said:
chadjohnsonfan said:
I like Dazed but prefer Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Ridiculous.Wooderson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spiccolli = end of debate. (note the period is in bold & italics)
Meh. They're two different types of movies IMO.Fast Times was a contemporary teen comedy.

Dazed was a nostalgic semi-coming-of-age movie.
The characters in Fast Times were so much more of a caricature than Dazed.Some of those characters in Dazed were just very, very real. Pickford, for example (A very underrated character). Not the king stud, didn't play a sport, but had the cool car, hot chick, and always seemed to have parents heading out of town. I knew that kid.
Exactly...while I think there are some kids in FTARH that most people can relate to, pretty much every character in D & C is someone most people can relate to from H.S. or their home town, imho.
 
Parrothead said:
flysack said:
That's another thing: they take great pains to show how Pink isn't just the "quarterback" or "ladies man" but also friends with every single group of people in the story. He's even buddies with the geeks.My best friend was exactly like this. He wasn't the toughest guy or the biggest wastoid or the best athlete. He was just good at everything (without being "great") and never had a bad thing to say about anyone. Everyone respected him. The girls loved him and nobody ever wanted to mess with him. Even the geeks considered him their friend. I'll say it again: this movie is all about American archetypes. It's uncanny.
:thumbup: I just love this movie.. besides the characters, EVERYONE remembers that "last day of school" feeling...
maybe if i put in my 2 weeks i can get that feeling back again.
 
:coffee: Great movie...

The song that Milla Jovovich plinks on her guitar whilst gazing at the stars is an excerpt from The Alien Song, a song from Milla's 1994 album, The Divine Comedy.

Matthew McConaughey's production company's name, JKL Productions, comes from Wooderson's life credo: Just Keep Livin'!

Director Trademark: [Richard Linklater] Pinball.

On Thursday 7 October 2004, former high school classmates of Linklater filed a lawsuit against Universal Studios saying that the director did not get their permission to use their likenesses and surnames and now suffer from ridicule. The three men are Bobby Wooderson, Andy Slater and Richard Floyd. The three men still live in Huntsville, Texas where according to the lawsuit "we had fun in high school."

Reportedly one-sixth of the film's budget was spent on acquiring the rights to 1970s pop hits on the soundtrack.

Pink's belt buckle is really a pipe; this is evident when Wooderson and Dawson are talking about the freshman girls in front of the Emporium.

While filming in Texas, Milla Jovovich (Michelle) and 'Shawn Andrews' (Kevin Pickford) eloped to Las Vegas and got married. However, Jovovich was only 16/17 at the time and her mother had the marriage annulled.

The word "man" is said 203 times total in the movie.

The word "####" is mentioned 59 times throughout the movie

The beer drunk by most of the cast (excluding minors) was actually real beer. Jason London, however, refused to drink the beer and was trying to stop smoking as well.

All the wooden paddles were custom designed by the stars themselves. Check for one that says "17 yrs", noticing the year difference between the movie and the plot setting.

Adam Goldberg, in a 2003 Texas Monthly feature recapping the movie, said that the fight scene between his and Nicky Katt's characters was what specifically led him to want the role.

Rory Cochrane, who played Slater in the movie, actually wore a long-hair wig in the film. He said that he'd never had long hair before and that, despite the "cosmopolitan" atmosphere of Austin, Texas, he still got a lot of strange looks from people outside the set.

When Randall "Pink" Floyd drives Mitch Kramer home, the 8-track they have playing in the car is "Frampton Comes Alive".

Prior to filming, Wiley Wiggins (Mitch Kramer) had never thrown a baseball in his life. Because of this, a double was used in the pitching scenes.

In the scene where the kids are building the paddles the teacher in the shop (sleeping) is actually a real teacher at that school and still works there.

Vince Vaughn was originally cast as Benny, but was replaced by Cole Hauser after director Richard Linklater decided that he and Ben Affleck resembled each other too closely.

Ranked at #3 on Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best High School Movies (2006)

Wooderson's car is a 1970 Chevy Chevelle Super Sport

O'Bannion's car is a 1972 Plymouth Duster 340 and Pickford's car is a 1970 Pontiac GTO Judge.

Led Zeppelin recorded a song entitled "Dazed and Confused" on the album "Led Zeppelin 1" released in 1969. There is a subtle reference/homage to Led Zeppelin in the movie. In the scene where Don gets Benny out of woodshop, just after Don gets Slater's attention to signal Benny, listen for Slater's line, "Man, I ain't belivin' that #### about Bonham's 1-hour drum solo...I mean, 1 hour on drums...you couldn't handle that #### on strong acid, man." This is a reference to Led Zeppelin drummer John Bonham who would frequently perform extended drum solos at concerts. His typical solo was entitled "Moby ****".

The statues which Milla Jovovich adds 'KISS' makeup to were featured more prominently in the shooting script. Several scenes were filmed from their theft to their confiscation by the police. Some of these scenes were included as DVD bonus features, but several have never been officially released. Shortly after the film's release, Gene Simmons reportedly purchased the two statues for his private collection. He later sold them at the Butterfield's KISS Auction in 2000, for $6,000.

Mike, Tony and Cynthia featured in additional scenes, including one in which they steal beer from Cynthia's neighbor's garage (accompanying this scene was Jethro Tull's "Locomotive Breath"). This scene was shot but was not included in DVD bonus footage.

Ron talks about how George Washington grew marijuana on his plantation at Mount Vernon which is true but it was not grown for people to smoke. He had large fields of cannabis on his plantation, which were used for fiber production. The tough fiber of the plant, cultivated as hemp, has numerous textile uses.

Renée Zellweger auditioned for a larger role as one of the senior girls but was given the uncredited non-speaking role of Nesi White.

Top Notch Burgers, the drive-in restaurant in the movie, closed November 14, 2008, after the owner James Stanish passed away. Mr. Stanish worked at Top Notch for 38 years since he was 12 years old. His father originally started the business which he eventually took over. The restaurant has since been reopened (4-12-09).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106677/trivia
So this movie is based on Huntsville, not Austin. It all makes so much more sense now...the paddles & all. I always wondered about that when watching it, thinking I never remembered worrying about being paddled entering high school.We moved from Austin to Conroe between Houston and Huntsville in the middle of my 8th grade year. Huntsville makes perfect sense as a setting for this movie...except they don't have Moonlight Towers or Top Notch Burgers.

Huntsville...LOL.
I grew up in Huntsville, they still have the Freshman/Senior parties... or at least they did 15 years ago. The paddling of the guys was toned down a lot by then, but all the antics of how the girls were treated were still the same (covered in food, treated like crap, etc.) The moontower, Top Notch Burgers and the pool hall in movie were all based on spots around town. One of my english teachers went to highschool with and knew Linklater.I've gotten in a lot of arguments over the years with people claiming the movie is about a highschool in Austin. Particularily with people that went to highschool in Austin.

 
I hate it when that dirty hippie says that George Washington was a pothead.. What a #######.
George Washington was not a pothead, nor did he smoke marijauna. He did however grow hemp, which is in fact the exact same plant as marijuana. So there is a small grain of truth to the statement.
 
:thumbup: Great movie...

The song that Milla Jovovich plinks on her guitar whilst gazing at the stars is an excerpt from The Alien Song, a song from Milla's 1994 album, The Divine Comedy.

Matthew McConaughey's production company's name, JKL Productions, comes from Wooderson's life credo: Just Keep Livin'!

Director Trademark: [Richard Linklater] Pinball.

On Thursday 7 October 2004, former high school classmates of Linklater filed a lawsuit against Universal Studios saying that the director did not get their permission to use their likenesses and surnames and now suffer from ridicule. The three men are Bobby Wooderson, Andy Slater and Richard Floyd. The three men still live in Huntsville, Texas where according to the lawsuit "we had fun in high school."

Reportedly one-sixth of the film's budget was spent on acquiring the rights to 1970s pop hits on the soundtrack.

Pink's belt buckle is really a pipe; this is evident when Wooderson and Dawson are talking about the freshman girls in front of the Emporium.

While filming in Texas, Milla Jovovich (Michelle) and 'Shawn Andrews' (Kevin Pickford) eloped to Las Vegas and got married. However, Jovovich was only 16/17 at the time and her mother had the marriage annulled.

The word "man" is said 203 times total in the movie.

The word "####" is mentioned 59 times throughout the movie

The beer drunk by most of the cast (excluding minors) was actually real beer. Jason London, however, refused to drink the beer and was trying to stop smoking as well.

All the wooden paddles were custom designed by the stars themselves. Check for one that says "17 yrs", noticing the year difference between the movie and the plot setting.

Adam Goldberg, in a 2003 Texas Monthly feature recapping the movie, said that the fight scene between his and Nicky Katt's characters was what specifically led him to want the role.

Rory Cochrane, who played Slater in the movie, actually wore a long-hair wig in the film. He said that he'd never had long hair before and that, despite the "cosmopolitan" atmosphere of Austin, Texas, he still got a lot of strange looks from people outside the set.

When Randall "Pink" Floyd drives Mitch Kramer home, the 8-track they have playing in the car is "Frampton Comes Alive".

Prior to filming, Wiley Wiggins (Mitch Kramer) had never thrown a baseball in his life. Because of this, a double was used in the pitching scenes.

In the scene where the kids are building the paddles the teacher in the shop (sleeping) is actually a real teacher at that school and still works there.

Vince Vaughn was originally cast as Benny, but was replaced by Cole Hauser after director Richard Linklater decided that he and Ben Affleck resembled each other too closely.

Ranked at #3 on Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best High School Movies (2006)

Wooderson's car is a 1970 Chevy Chevelle Super Sport

O'Bannion's car is a 1972 Plymouth Duster 340 and Pickford's car is a 1970 Pontiac GTO Judge.

Led Zeppelin recorded a song entitled "Dazed and Confused" on the album "Led Zeppelin 1" released in 1969. There is a subtle reference/homage to Led Zeppelin in the movie. In the scene where Don gets Benny out of woodshop, just after Don gets Slater's attention to signal Benny, listen for Slater's line, "Man, I ain't belivin' that #### about Bonham's 1-hour drum solo...I mean, 1 hour on drums...you couldn't handle that #### on strong acid, man." This is a reference to Led Zeppelin drummer John Bonham who would frequently perform extended drum solos at concerts. His typical solo was entitled "Moby ****".

The statues which Milla Jovovich adds 'KISS' makeup to were featured more prominently in the shooting script. Several scenes were filmed from their theft to their confiscation by the police. Some of these scenes were included as DVD bonus features, but several have never been officially released. Shortly after the film's release, Gene Simmons reportedly purchased the two statues for his private collection. He later sold them at the Butterfield's KISS Auction in 2000, for $6,000.

Mike, Tony and Cynthia featured in additional scenes, including one in which they steal beer from Cynthia's neighbor's garage (accompanying this scene was Jethro Tull's "Locomotive Breath"). This scene was shot but was not included in DVD bonus footage.

Ron talks about how George Washington grew marijuana on his plantation at Mount Vernon which is true but it was not grown for people to smoke. He had large fields of cannabis on his plantation, which were used for fiber production. The tough fiber of the plant, cultivated as hemp, has numerous textile uses.

Renée Zellweger auditioned for a larger role as one of the senior girls but was given the uncredited non-speaking role of Nesi White.

Top Notch Burgers, the drive-in restaurant in the movie, closed November 14, 2008, after the owner James Stanish passed away. Mr. Stanish worked at Top Notch for 38 years since he was 12 years old. His father originally started the business which he eventually took over. The restaurant has since been reopened (4-12-09).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106677/trivia
So this movie is based on Huntsville, not Austin. It all makes so much more sense now...the paddles & all. I always wondered about that when watching it, thinking I never remembered worrying about being paddled entering high school.We moved from Austin to Conroe between Houston and Huntsville in the middle of my 8th grade year. Huntsville makes perfect sense as a setting for this movie...except they don't have Moonlight Towers or Top Notch Burgers.

Huntsville...LOL.
I grew up in Huntsville, they still have the Freshman/Senior parties... or at least they did 15 years ago. The paddling of the guys was toned down a lot by then, but all the antics of how the girls were treated were still the same (covered in food, treated like crap, etc.) The moontower, Top Notch Burgers and the pool hall in movie were all based on spots around town. One of my english teachers went to highschool with and knew Linklater.I've gotten in a lot of arguments over the years with people claiming the movie is about a highschool in Austin. Particularily with people that went to highschool in Austin.
They're probably just confused by the fact that it's shot at area schools (Bedichek Junior High, the old elementary school in Georgetown...can't remember the name, Austin CC Rio Grande Campus...formerly Austin High), the scenes at the Enfield Park Moonlight Tower, Top Notch, the "Emporium" (the old shopping center across from the Yellow Rose), the old Americana Theater, the old baseball field off Shoal Creek, Burger Stadium, Centennial Liquor, Decker Lake, etc. If you're from Austin & know a lot about the area & don't know the movie's about Huntsville, I can see how it'd be easy to get the idea it's about Austin. That doesn't excuse acting as if you KNOW it's about Austin, though.
 

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