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DeAngelo Hall headed to the Raiders per ESPN (1 Viewer)
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"I will not be a part of another losing team for another year," Hall told the AJC in December. "I've got to do what I've got to do. No matter who hates me."
- This quote would be true irony if Hall ends up a Raider.
- This quote would be true irony if Hall ends up a Raider.
From what I have read a trade has been arranged by the Raiders and Falcons (for a second- and sixth-round pick), the rest is just Hall posturing for more bucks –
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=F...mp;confirm=true
By Adam Schefter – NFL Network Posted: 2 hours 4 minutes ago (as of 10:15 PM PST)
Oakland wheeled and dealed throughout free agency but the wheels got stuck in neutral Monday, when trade talks for Atlanta cornerback DeAngelo Hall bogged down –- at least temporarily.
After contract talks between the Raiders and Hall progressed Sunday night, they regressed Monday.
Now, a trade that would have sent Hall to Oakland and second- and sixth-round picks to Atlanta is stalled, leaving the Raiders without one of the game's top young cornerbacks and the Falcons with a player they would like to trade. The deal always could be jumpstarted –- the two sides still were negoiationg early Monday evening -- but the optimism that a deal could be struck quickly died down some Monday.
On Friday, Hall flew to Oakland and met with Al Davis and Raiders head coach Lane Kiffin. Davis has been pushing for his team to land Hall –- but at the right price.
When Davis has wanted a certain player this off-season, he usually has gotten his man –- from safety Gibril Wilson to wide receiver Javon Walker. But the deal with Hall is going to be trickier to finalize.
The Raiders already have satisfied the Falcons; but now they must do the same for Hall, who would like a contract similar to the one that free-agent cornerback Asante Samuel signed with Philadelphia.
This is not the first time a team has hoped to finalize a deal with Hall, only to see their hopes dashed. At various times, Hall has engaged in negotiations with the Jacksonville Jaguars and New York Giants, only to see a deal fail to materialize.
Atlanta is open to dealing Hall, and would prefer to, but trading partners could run low if Oakland bails. The feeling as of early Monday night was that the Raiders would do enough to get the deal done. But the question is when.
If the Falcons do trade Hall to the Raiders, draft day will provide Atlanta with the chance to rebuild its roster and remake its hopes.
Assuming Hall goes to Oakland for a second- and sixth-round pick, the Falcons would be scheduled to have four of next month draft's 48 picks, including three in the second round.
Under that trade, the Falcons would be scheduled to have three valuable picks in round two –- the 34th overall selection that once belonged to the Raiders, the 37th overall selection that has belonged to Atlanta, and the 48th overall pick that once belonged to the Texans.
The Falcons also hold the draft's third overall pick, meaning Atlanta should be able to draft quality and quantity.
Of course the Falcons would need to replace a Pro-Bowl cornerback as well as a couple of legitimate NFL starting quarterbacks. But at least new Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff would have perfectly positioned his team for next month’s draft, with the ability to plug many of the holes that have plagued Atlanta.
http://www.ajc.com/falcons/content/sports/...dhall_0318.html
By STEVE WYCHE The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 03/17/08
The trade of Falcons cornerback DeAngelo Hall to Oakland is nearly final as Hall and the Raiders moved closer to a new contract Monday, according to a person familiar with the negotiations. The trade for the Pro Bowler could be consummated in a day or two after gaps in contract talks moved very close to being bridged.
As far as the teams are concerned, a deal is already in place. The Raiders will send a second-round selection (34th overall) and sixth-round pick to Atlanta in exchange for Hall.
The delay in the trade stems from Hall entering the final year of his contract. Both Hall and Oakland want to reach a long-term deal. The Raiders don't want to sacrifice the third pick of the second round and a late-round pick for a player who could leave after the season. Hall, the No. 8 overall pick in 2004, wants long-term financial security.
Hall's desire for a long-term deal is part of the reason his four-year tenure with Atlanta is close to being over. The Falcons weren't certain they wanted to make a major financial investment in the talented but outspoken cornerback. Once Atlanta began to entertain trade offers, Hall told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution last month the team no longer wanted him and it was time for him to go.
Once the trade is finalized, the Falcons will hold the No. 3 overall pick and three second round picks, two acquired via trades or pending trades: No. 34 (Oakland), No. 37 and No. 48 (Houston).
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http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raide...ves/011164.html
Jason Jones of the Sacramento Bee -
March 17, 2008
Still waiting on D. Hall
****UPDATE****
The NFL Network reports talks have stalled in the DeAngelo Hall trade. There was no reason given why. The deal was contingent on Hall agreeing to a new contract. If he does, he'll be a Raider. Basically, nothing has changed until Hall says he won't play for the Raiders or he's dealt elsewhere if another team is willing to give up a first-round pick and agree to a new deal with Hall.
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There’s nothing new on DeAngelo Hall being traded to the Raiders.
But the deal hasn't fallen apart.
ESPN is reporting what I reported Saturday, the deal is agreed upon. Hall in exchange for the Raiders’ second and sixth-round draft picks this year.
Raiders’ owner Al Davis wants the deal to get done, so I believe it will be completed this week once the two sides agree on a contract.
The Raiders might need to clear salary in order to sign Hall to the contract extension he desires.
The Raiders’ payroll is reportedly at $130 million. That number doesn’t necessarily reflect how the salary cap will be impacted because that figure includes bonuses that are likely to be earned.
But releasing players that are drawing big salaries as backups (RB LaMont Jordan, S Stuart Schweigert) or reworking current deals could be in the works now to get the Hall deal done.
Also, don’t rule out the Raiders trading CB Fabian Washington or CB Stanford Routt. The favorite to be dealt might be Washington, who is talented, but some around the team question his confidence since Chad Johnson worked him over in Dec. 06 and he lost his starting job to Routt Week 3 of 2007.
Hall wouldn’t come without questions.
A NFL scout I spoke with classified Hall as “good, not great” and questioned had Hall already lost a step at only24.
Others have questioned his discipline after he got into it with coach Bobby Petrino last season.
In fairness, a lot of Falcons wanted a piece of Petrino. When I met Hall last month, he looked shorter than the5-10 he’s listed at. But he was cordial and people I spoke with praised his football IQ and appreciation for the history of football.
The Raiders have liked Hall since he came out of Virginia Tech in 2004. Pairing him Nnamdi Asomugha should be fun to watch.
The Raiders drafted Robert Gallery second overall that year and Hall was picked eighth by Atlanta.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story;jsessionid=F...mp;confirm=true
By Adam Schefter – NFL Network Posted: 2 hours 4 minutes ago (as of 10:15 PM PST)
Oakland wheeled and dealed throughout free agency but the wheels got stuck in neutral Monday, when trade talks for Atlanta cornerback DeAngelo Hall bogged down –- at least temporarily.
After contract talks between the Raiders and Hall progressed Sunday night, they regressed Monday.
Now, a trade that would have sent Hall to Oakland and second- and sixth-round picks to Atlanta is stalled, leaving the Raiders without one of the game's top young cornerbacks and the Falcons with a player they would like to trade. The deal always could be jumpstarted –- the two sides still were negoiationg early Monday evening -- but the optimism that a deal could be struck quickly died down some Monday.
On Friday, Hall flew to Oakland and met with Al Davis and Raiders head coach Lane Kiffin. Davis has been pushing for his team to land Hall –- but at the right price.
When Davis has wanted a certain player this off-season, he usually has gotten his man –- from safety Gibril Wilson to wide receiver Javon Walker. But the deal with Hall is going to be trickier to finalize.
The Raiders already have satisfied the Falcons; but now they must do the same for Hall, who would like a contract similar to the one that free-agent cornerback Asante Samuel signed with Philadelphia.
This is not the first time a team has hoped to finalize a deal with Hall, only to see their hopes dashed. At various times, Hall has engaged in negotiations with the Jacksonville Jaguars and New York Giants, only to see a deal fail to materialize.
Atlanta is open to dealing Hall, and would prefer to, but trading partners could run low if Oakland bails. The feeling as of early Monday night was that the Raiders would do enough to get the deal done. But the question is when.
If the Falcons do trade Hall to the Raiders, draft day will provide Atlanta with the chance to rebuild its roster and remake its hopes.
Assuming Hall goes to Oakland for a second- and sixth-round pick, the Falcons would be scheduled to have four of next month draft's 48 picks, including three in the second round.
Under that trade, the Falcons would be scheduled to have three valuable picks in round two –- the 34th overall selection that once belonged to the Raiders, the 37th overall selection that has belonged to Atlanta, and the 48th overall pick that once belonged to the Texans.
The Falcons also hold the draft's third overall pick, meaning Atlanta should be able to draft quality and quantity.
Of course the Falcons would need to replace a Pro-Bowl cornerback as well as a couple of legitimate NFL starting quarterbacks. But at least new Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff would have perfectly positioned his team for next month’s draft, with the ability to plug many of the holes that have plagued Atlanta.
http://www.ajc.com/falcons/content/sports/...dhall_0318.html
By STEVE WYCHE The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 03/17/08
The trade of Falcons cornerback DeAngelo Hall to Oakland is nearly final as Hall and the Raiders moved closer to a new contract Monday, according to a person familiar with the negotiations. The trade for the Pro Bowler could be consummated in a day or two after gaps in contract talks moved very close to being bridged.
As far as the teams are concerned, a deal is already in place. The Raiders will send a second-round selection (34th overall) and sixth-round pick to Atlanta in exchange for Hall.
The delay in the trade stems from Hall entering the final year of his contract. Both Hall and Oakland want to reach a long-term deal. The Raiders don't want to sacrifice the third pick of the second round and a late-round pick for a player who could leave after the season. Hall, the No. 8 overall pick in 2004, wants long-term financial security.
Hall's desire for a long-term deal is part of the reason his four-year tenure with Atlanta is close to being over. The Falcons weren't certain they wanted to make a major financial investment in the talented but outspoken cornerback. Once Atlanta began to entertain trade offers, Hall told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution last month the team no longer wanted him and it was time for him to go.
Once the trade is finalized, the Falcons will hold the No. 3 overall pick and three second round picks, two acquired via trades or pending trades: No. 34 (Oakland), No. 37 and No. 48 (Houston).
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http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raide...ves/011164.html
Jason Jones of the Sacramento Bee -
March 17, 2008
Still waiting on D. Hall
****UPDATE****
The NFL Network reports talks have stalled in the DeAngelo Hall trade. There was no reason given why. The deal was contingent on Hall agreeing to a new contract. If he does, he'll be a Raider. Basically, nothing has changed until Hall says he won't play for the Raiders or he's dealt elsewhere if another team is willing to give up a first-round pick and agree to a new deal with Hall.
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There’s nothing new on DeAngelo Hall being traded to the Raiders.
But the deal hasn't fallen apart.
ESPN is reporting what I reported Saturday, the deal is agreed upon. Hall in exchange for the Raiders’ second and sixth-round draft picks this year.
Raiders’ owner Al Davis wants the deal to get done, so I believe it will be completed this week once the two sides agree on a contract.
The Raiders might need to clear salary in order to sign Hall to the contract extension he desires.
The Raiders’ payroll is reportedly at $130 million. That number doesn’t necessarily reflect how the salary cap will be impacted because that figure includes bonuses that are likely to be earned.
But releasing players that are drawing big salaries as backups (RB LaMont Jordan, S Stuart Schweigert) or reworking current deals could be in the works now to get the Hall deal done.
Also, don’t rule out the Raiders trading CB Fabian Washington or CB Stanford Routt. The favorite to be dealt might be Washington, who is talented, but some around the team question his confidence since Chad Johnson worked him over in Dec. 06 and he lost his starting job to Routt Week 3 of 2007.
Hall wouldn’t come without questions.
A NFL scout I spoke with classified Hall as “good, not great” and questioned had Hall already lost a step at only24.
Others have questioned his discipline after he got into it with coach Bobby Petrino last season.
In fairness, a lot of Falcons wanted a piece of Petrino. When I met Hall last month, he looked shorter than the5-10 he’s listed at. But he was cordial and people I spoke with praised his football IQ and appreciation for the history of football.
The Raiders have liked Hall since he came out of Virginia Tech in 2004. Pairing him Nnamdi Asomugha should be fun to watch.
The Raiders drafted Robert Gallery second overall that year and Hall was picked eighth by Atlanta.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3300199
Source: After trade to Raiders, Hall to get seven-year, $70 million deal
ESPN.com news services - Updated: March 18, 2008, 8:40 PM ET
Atlanta Falcons cornerback DeAngelo Hall says he will finalize a contract with Oakland by Thursday morning, allowing the trade sending him to the Raiders to be completed.
Frustrated by his team's lack of success, Raiders owner Al Davis has spent a lot of money this offseason. And he's not done yet, writes John Clayton. Story
A source told ESPN's Chris Mortensen that the deal is for seven years and worth $70 million. The amount of guaranteed money and bonuses in the contract have not been finalized.
The source also told Mortensen the teams are discussing possibly more compensation than just a second-round pick for the Raiders to acquire Hall, a two-time All-Pro.
If the deal goes through as planned, the Falcons will have three second-round draft picks and four of the first 48 selections under first-year general manager Thomas Dimitroff.
Hall said he is scheduled to fly to Oakland on Wednesday to meet with Raiders officials, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
"There is just some tweaking of the language that needs to be done, some minor details," Hall told the newspaper. "No deal breakers."
ESPN NFL reporter Chris Mortensen and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Source: After trade to Raiders, Hall to get seven-year, $70 million deal
ESPN.com news services - Updated: March 18, 2008, 8:40 PM ET
Atlanta Falcons cornerback DeAngelo Hall says he will finalize a contract with Oakland by Thursday morning, allowing the trade sending him to the Raiders to be completed.
Frustrated by his team's lack of success, Raiders owner Al Davis has spent a lot of money this offseason. And he's not done yet, writes John Clayton. Story
A source told ESPN's Chris Mortensen that the deal is for seven years and worth $70 million. The amount of guaranteed money and bonuses in the contract have not been finalized.
The source also told Mortensen the teams are discussing possibly more compensation than just a second-round pick for the Raiders to acquire Hall, a two-time All-Pro.
If the deal goes through as planned, the Falcons will have three second-round draft picks and four of the first 48 selections under first-year general manager Thomas Dimitroff.
Hall said he is scheduled to fly to Oakland on Wednesday to meet with Raiders officials, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
"There is just some tweaking of the language that needs to be done, some minor details," Hall told the newspaper. "No deal breakers."
ESPN NFL reporter Chris Mortensen and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
