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DeAngelo Hall signs 1 year deal with Skins (1 Viewer)
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Limp Ditka
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thatguy
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I can't help it. I'll always be thatguy. It's a curse.
tombonneau
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Those who do not learn from history, etc.
thatguy
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Not sure about that... Everyone thought he'd be a very good CB2 for Oakland and he wasn't just bad, he was downright awful.
jeeb
Footballguy
Have you ever watched Leigh Torrence play? He, along with Pete Kendall, cost the Skins a win vs. the Rams.
thatguy
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Nope, I haven't... I'll take your word for it though that DeAngelo will be an upgrade. I still don't think he'll be very good.
GroveDiesel
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So what are the odds that this ends up being his last stop? Will someone actually sign him after his inevitable failure in Washington?
buster c
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Torrence got beat badly in the Rams loss on the key play of the game for the StL O...but take my word for it - he is greatly improved from last year. Of late, I've seen #20 Tryon - a rookie draft pick who was toasted to no end during the preseason - playing in dime packages with Springs out. Hall can not be that bad. He can not be that bad.
Sammy Traveller
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DeAngelo's with the Skins?!?
Smoot and Hall would make a very voluble pair.
Smoot and Hall would make a very voluble pair.
phthalatemagic
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Does voluble mean worthless?DeAngelo's with the Skins?!?
5-ish Finkle
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Maybe they have a lot of....volume?Does voluble mean worthless?DeAngelo's with the Skins?!?
Ditkaless Wonders
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Is this done simply to keep him away from Dallas?
Andy Herron
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I don't know if I can buy that. Although, if there was any of that sort of motivation, it would have been to keep him away from the NFC East in general. You could make a case for all of the division to be in the market for him, and all but the Eagles were "rumored" to be interested in Hall.
Mustang Man
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If so that is funny cause Dallas was not going to come after him IMO. They have 4 better cb's already employed
Avery
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Any of them healthy or not suspended?
Andy Herron
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At least.
Mustang Man
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As of today yep they are all healthy and ready to play next week, thank you very much. I was not including Pacman as he is gone for good I hope.
Andy Herron
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Posted earlier today at PFT-
HALL EYEBALLS LONG-TERM STAY WITH THE REDSKINS
Posted by Mike Florio on November 7, 2008, 3:19 p.m.
One major factor that drove the decision of cornerback DeAngelo Hall to sign with the Redskins is the possibility of doing a long-term deal in D.C.
“It’s a one-year deal for now, but we’ll work something out long-term,” Hall told Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com. “That’s why I chose them. I don’t want to hit the market in the offseason and have to move my family again this year.
Per a league source, the Redskins want Hall to prove that he can be an asset in the locker room, and that he can return to past form on the field. If/when that happens, they’ll lock him up for the long haul.
In the end, Hall picked the Redskins from a pool that included three other teams — the Patriots, Ravens, and Jets. The packages, we’re told, were roughly equivalent.
HALL EYEBALLS LONG-TERM STAY WITH THE REDSKINS
Posted by Mike Florio on November 7, 2008, 3:19 p.m.
One major factor that drove the decision of cornerback DeAngelo Hall to sign with the Redskins is the possibility of doing a long-term deal in D.C.
“It’s a one-year deal for now, but we’ll work something out long-term,” Hall told Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com. “That’s why I chose them. I don’t want to hit the market in the offseason and have to move my family again this year.
Per a league source, the Redskins want Hall to prove that he can be an asset in the locker room, and that he can return to past form on the field. If/when that happens, they’ll lock him up for the long haul.
In the end, Hall picked the Redskins from a pool that included three other teams — the Patriots, Ravens, and Jets. The packages, we’re told, were roughly equivalent.
tombonneau
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I would think it would be in the Redskins favor to have Dallas sign Hall.
?? It's only a one year deal, so that kind of lessens the chance that the Redskins are making a serious mistake here. With such a short contract, Hall is going to have to proove himself. And, if he doesn't work out, just don't sign him beyond one year. It's no sure thing, but probably worth the risk, given the fact that the Skins have been pretty beat up in the secondary this year.M
tombonneau
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I'll agree, Hall comes with far less risk/money than is normally attached to the typical Synder fantasy football move. But that still doesn't change the fact that Snyder continues to appear to be more about collecting names than building a team.
Cookiemonster
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Seriously. Al Davis must be Snyder's mentor. Who, besides Al, has signed bigger names and gotten less production from them over the last decade?
Oh, no doubt that Snyder has been the worst offender of this in the past decade. He has signed all sorts of hot shot free agents and it's not really panned out for him. I just think that this signing is a bit different than the others since it's only one year and probably he's not paying top dollar like some of the other crazy signings. Snyder has actually been better over the last year or so, when Gibbs started influencing the team more -- building a team vs. collecting free agents. I don't think Snyder wants to go back to the "FFL Owner" mentality. At the same time, you can't be so eager to go to the other extreme either and NEVER take a chance...that is just as foolish.In the end, I still think it's worth it, since the risk is minimal, at only one year. This deal is really not the same at all as Snyder's traditional crazy moves.M
Cookiemonster
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That's why I said Davis was likely Snyder's mentor. Only Al could be dumb enough to sign the FAs he did for as much $ as he did. But yeah, they are both about the names and accolades, not scouting & long-term production.
hellz_fireflies
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When I first started playing FF I would care about this since back 20 years ago IDP was always a part of FF..these days no more..and this should be posted in IDP forum then.
fatness
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Maybe Dallas should start putting those good CB's on the field.
jeeb
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He is an upgrade over Torrence. I'm only expecting #4 CB production so it's not that bad at all. If his cut from Oakland and signing as a #4 is a wakeup call to him and he gets his head on straight it might be a pretty good signing. If not just don't persue him in FA.They signed him for a song - half a song, actually, as it's only for teh second half of the season - and if Springs his healthy he's the 4th CB. I don't see much downside here, I guess, and I say that as someone who is not much of a Hall fan. I guess we'll see.
jojoh07
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Sammy Traveller
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Definitionvoluble = characterized by ready or rapid speech.Maybe they have a lot of....volume?Does voluble mean worthless?DeAngelo's with the Skins?!?
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
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fatness
against the grain
I see it that way too --- a cheap chance taken on someone who was, at one point in his not-so-distant past, thought to have talent enough to be an adequate-or-good CB. If he works out for them, fine. If not, they spent little. There is 0 chance he'll do anything that disrupts the locker room chemistry. Hall is NOT going to win any tests of will with Greg Blache.They signed him for a song - half a song, actually, as it's only for teh second half of the season - and if Springs his healthy he's the 4th CB. I don't see much downside here, I guess, and I say that as someone who is not much of a Hall fan. I guess we'll see.
Ditkaless Wonders
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I would think so too.
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southeastjerome
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I completely agree, not to mention that there is a chance he was actually humbled by getting cut. That and if he wants to get a decent contract from anyone in the offseason he'll have to be a model citizen and perform at a reasonable level.I see it that way too --- a cheap chance taken on someone who was, at one point in his not-so-distant past, thought to have talent enough to be an adequate-or-good CB. If he works out for them, fine. If not, they spent little. There is 0 chance he'll do anything that disrupts the locker room chemistry. Hall is NOT going to win any tests of will with Greg Blache.They signed him for a song - half a song, actually, as it's only for teh second half of the season - and if Springs his healthy he's the 4th CB. I don't see much downside here, I guess, and I say that as someone who is not much of a Hall fan. I guess we'll see.
Phurfur
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Isn't Dallas ahead of Wash on the waiver wire? I think they could have had him if they wanted him.
dgreen
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By signing someone on waivers, you would have to accept his existing contract. Hall made it through waivers with nobody claiming him. So, both Dallas and Washington (and 30 other teams) didn't want him at his existing contract. Once he cleared waivers, he could then negotiate with any team for any contract. So, Dallas could have had him at the same low contract the Skins got him at.
Phurfur
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Thanks, I knew that at one point in my life.
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In regards to the signing by the Redskins... Thank you.Sincerely, NYG fan.
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Phurfur
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From RotoWorld:
Report: Hall wanted Falcon fight last week
ProFootballTalk cites a Keith Brooking radio interview on 680 The Fan in Atlanta that claims DeAngelo Hall tried to provoke a fight with a Falcon at halftime of last week's game in Oakland.
Brooking said that Hall was waiting in the tunnel to pick a fight, at which point the Falcon linebacker considered himself lucky to be removed "from all that mess." That "mess" would be Hall and his poisonous attitude, which apparently has a long way to go. There's been no indication that the incident led directly or even indirectly to Hall's Oakland release, but it's not like the Redskins can claim they didn't know what they were getting themselves into upon signing Hall. Nov. 8 - 11:54 am et
Source: ProFootballTalk
Report: Hall wanted Falcon fight last week
ProFootballTalk cites a Keith Brooking radio interview on 680 The Fan in Atlanta that claims DeAngelo Hall tried to provoke a fight with a Falcon at halftime of last week's game in Oakland.
Brooking said that Hall was waiting in the tunnel to pick a fight, at which point the Falcon linebacker considered himself lucky to be removed "from all that mess." That "mess" would be Hall and his poisonous attitude, which apparently has a long way to go. There's been no indication that the incident led directly or even indirectly to Hall's Oakland release, but it's not like the Redskins can claim they didn't know what they were getting themselves into upon signing Hall. Nov. 8 - 11:54 am et
Source: ProFootballTalk
Hoss_Cartwright
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Why would they waste their time with such a scumbag? The NFL will be better off once owners start blackballing some of these a-holes.
buster c
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this debacle of a signing will, in the end, cost the skins a young CB with potential - #29 Leigh Torrence. He can play in this league. And his ex-teammates are devastated by his release...for a team cancer who, if you ask anyone who can evaluate NFL talent, flat out sucks as a CB.
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