Deangelo or Slaton (1 Viewer)

[eefflrat]

deangelo was the number 1 Rb last year, and slaton ranked extremely high as well.

Both are young.

DW was the top RB in his class and has a number 1 draft pick breathing down his neck, and is a FA next year.

Slaton is a 2nd day pick who put up fantastic numbers, yet the coach continues to say he wants another back to do a lot of the hard work.

So who would you rather have? These two RB's have so much talent, yet so many questions...

DW was a yardage and scoring monster, Slaton was a PPR monster...

Who would you rather have, standard or PPR....

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

D. Williams is the better talent, but it's not a given that he is the better fantasy option. I prefer him to Slaton, but they aren't miles apart or anything.

 

[travdogg]

D. Williams is the better talent, but it's not a given that he is the better fantasy option. I prefer him to Slaton, but they aren't miles apart or anything.

I disagree, D-Willy is a late 1st round guy, in my opinion Slaton is a late 3rd rounder and goes after several WR's and a few QB's. Steve Slaton is residing very highly on my 2009 bust list.

 

[SugarNuts]

D. Williams is the better talent, but it's not a given that he is the better fantasy option. I prefer him to Slaton, but they aren't miles apart or anything.

I disagree, D-Willy is a late 1st round guy, in my opinion Slaton is a late 3rd rounder and goes after several WR's and a few QB's. Steve Slaton is residing very highly on my 2009 bust list.

I agree the guy you want is DeW, but I think Slaton deserves to be taken off the bust list. Dude has talent, opportunity, and experience. Even if they take a RB early, it isnt a replacement to Slaton. It will be a compliment, and in todays NFL, there arent many RBs that dont split in some way. Even DeW splits some. I like Slaton a lot this year.

 

[JAA]

Dynasty?

Which RB has their better years ahead of them? Will Slaton or DW repeat their success from last year? Who has the better chance?

As a WVU homer, I gott say that Stewart scares me. Hou will draft someone complimentary, but will they be as talented as Stewart?

I like both backs. I would probably draft Slaton higher in a Dynasty startup PPR league.

 

[golfguy]

I like both backs. I would probably draft Slaton higher in a Dynasty startup PPR league.

let me know, so i can join your league then seriously i like slaton a lot, however he isn't in the same level of talent as deangelo is. the panthers have a better line, and play in a conference with weaker defenses then afc south that's for sure. the saints 2x a year, the bucs rebuilding and the falcons. i was happy with slaton last season, however, i don't think his body and frame size will hold up to the nfl that well. not if he is the feature back.

 

[TheFanatic]

I like both backs. I would probably draft Slaton higher in a Dynasty startup PPR league.

let me know, so i can join your league then seriously i like slaton a lot, however he isn't in the same level of talent as deangelo is. the panthers have a better line, and play in a conference with weaker defenses then afc south that's for sure. the saints 2x a year, the bucs rebuilding and the falcons. i was happy with slaton last season, however, i don't think his body and frame size will hold up to the nfl that well. not if he is the feature back.

In a PPR I would probably still take Deangelo over Slaton, but if the guy ahead of me took DWill and I was left with Slaton I would feel pretty good about it. In a non PPR I take Dengelo all day long...To mock a guy for saying that he would take Slaton over Deangelo in a PPR dynasty league is pretty ridiculous. Deangelo may get more TD's but he also hast Stewart there and Slaton has the catches. This is not a clear cut case of one towering over the other in terms of ability/performance.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Williams, by a ton.

 

[Garts]

Williams, by a ton.

I don't see Slaton lasting long with the workload he saw last year. I see him as more a COP who played well, but he tired out near the end of the year.Williams is a stud.

 

[golfguy]

To mock a guy for saying that he would take Slaton over Deangelo in a PPR dynasty league is pretty ridiculous. Deangelo may get more TD's but he also hast Stewart there and Slaton has the catches. This is not a clear cut case of one towering over the other in terms of ability/performance.

i wasn't really mocking him, first of all. i was just playing around. secondly if you put slaton near dwills (as if they are in the same tier) you are nuts. deangelo is a lot better then slaton. especially in a dynasty. with williams you pretty much know what you have, with slaton not so much. and with the high likelihood that houston takes a RB in round 1 or 2 this year, slaton will drop off in production as well.

 

[lyon812]

Williams, by a ton.

I don't see Slaton lasting long with the workload he saw last year. I see him as more a COP who played well, but he tired out near the end of the year.

No he didn't. Last 5 games:vs Jax: 21-130-2, 2-52vs GB: 26-120, 3-40vs TEN: 24-100, 3-15vs OAK: 18-66, 5-36vs CHI: 20-92-1, 5-36The "he tired out" is one of those myths that keeps recirculating. At one point, Kubiak said he looked tired, which was the week they played BAL and he had 4 carries. Then he went 14-156-1 and 21-73-0 before the final 5 games above.

 

[SugarNuts]

To mock a guy for saying that he would take Slaton over Deangelo in a PPR dynasty league is pretty ridiculous. Deangelo may get more TD's but he also hast Stewart there and Slaton has the catches. This is not a clear cut case of one towering over the other in terms of ability/performance.

i wasn't really mocking him, first of all. i was just playing around. secondly if you put slaton near dwills (as if they are in the same tier) you are nuts. deangelo is a lot better then slaton. especially in a dynasty. with williams you pretty much know what you have, with slaton not so much. and with the high likelihood that houston takes a RB in round 1 or 2 this year, slaton will drop off in production as well.

How so? DeW had his 1st good season last year. I was able to get him from an owner who didnt want to wait on him any longer. Slaton produced in year one. Yeah he might lose SOME touches to another RB, but seriously, DeW loses tyouches to JStew right now. FWIW, I think I would easily grab DeW before Slaton in a startup dynasty in round 1. Slaton would be an excellent RB2 to have.

 

[fsufan]

I like both backs. I would probably draft Slaton higher in a Dynasty startup PPR league.

let me know, so i can join your league then seriously i like slaton a lot, however he isn't in the same level of talent as deangelo is. the panthers have a better line, and play in a conference with weaker defenses then afc south that's for sure. the saints 2x a year, the bucs rebuilding and the falcons.

i was happy with slaton last season, however, i don't think his body and frame size will hold up to the nfl that well. not if he is the feature back.

This time last year FF players where saying Stewart would be the starter by week 6. Now they are saying williams is a top dynasty RB . In redraft leagues and start up dynasty leagues Slaton is the better value. D. Williams will go to high and slaton will be under valued

 

[fsufan]

Here is why I think Williams is being over rated. 15 of his 18 TD came in 7 weeks (week 11-16). I know this worked out great for his owner last year but I just do not see him getting close to 18 TDs again.

He is my vote for the most over rated RB this year, redraft or dynasty

 

[JAA]

I like both backs. I would probably draft Slaton higher in a Dynasty startup PPR league.

let me know, so i can join your league then seriously i like slaton a lot, however he isn't in the same level of talent as deangelo is. the panthers have a better line, and play in a conference with weaker defenses then afc south that's for sure. the saints 2x a year, the bucs rebuilding and the falcons. i was happy with slaton last season, however, i don't think his body and frame size will hold up to the nfl that well. not if he is the feature back.

devils advocate as I like both about evenly ...Same level of talent as Williams? What are you basing that on? DW @ Memphis vs Conference USA? Williams rookie campaign in the NFL?I think its cool that you like Williams better, I cant fault you for that. However, your analysis is ill-founded.

 

[JAA]

Williams, by a ton.

I don't see Slaton lasting long with the workload he saw last year. I see him as more a COP who played well, but he tired out near the end of the year.Williams is a stud.

Its clear you have not kept up with the threads around here. The data clearly showed Slaton got stronger at the end of the season. ALso, Slaton's BYE was week 2 ... he didnt get a mid season resting as a rookie.

 

[JAA]

To mock a guy for saying that he would take Slaton over Deangelo in a PPR dynasty league is pretty ridiculous. Deangelo may get more TD's but he also hast Stewart there and Slaton has the catches. This is not a clear cut case of one towering over the other in terms of ability/performance.

i wasn't really mocking him, first of all. i was just playing around. secondly if you put slaton near dwills (as if they are in the same tier) you are nuts. deangelo is a lot better then slaton. especially in a dynasty. with williams you pretty much know what you have, with slaton not so much. and with the high likelihood that houston takes a RB in round 1 or 2 this year, slaton will drop off in production as well.

here's a thoughtIf you had to bet 1000 of your own moneyon whether or not DW would performe better or worse than last season, which way would you go?

Same with Slaton

Looking at the splits of the season, I think its fair money to say that Slaton has the better chance of beating his stats from last season that DW.

 

[JAA]

Williams, by a ton.

I don't see Slaton lasting long with the workload he saw last year. I see him as more a COP who played well, but he tired out near the end of the year.

No he didn't. Last 5 games:vs Jax: 21-130-2, 2-52vs GB: 26-120, 3-40vs TEN: 24-100, 3-15vs OAK: 18-66, 5-36vs CHI: 20-92-1, 5-36The "he tired out" is one of those myths that keeps recirculating. At one point, Kubiak said he looked tired, which was the week they played BAL and he had 4 carries. Then he went 14-156-1 and 21-73-0 before the final 5 games above.

 

[JAA]

Here is why I think Williams is being over rated. 15 of his 18 TD came in 7 weeks (week 11-16). I know this worked out great for his owner last year but I just do not see him getting close to 18 TDs again. He is my vote for the most over rated RB this year, redraft or dynasty

great minds think alike

 

[travdogg]

To mock a guy for saying that he would take Slaton over Deangelo in a PPR dynasty league is pretty ridiculous. Deangelo may get more TD's but he also hast Stewart there and Slaton has the catches. This is not a clear cut case of one towering over the other in terms of ability/performance.

i wasn't really mocking him, first of all. i was just playing around. secondly if you put slaton near dwills (as if they are in the same tier) you are nuts. deangelo is a lot better then slaton. especially in a dynasty. with williams you pretty much know what you have, with slaton not so much. and with the high likelihood that houston takes a RB in round 1 or 2 this year, slaton will drop off in production as well.

here's a thoughtIf you had to bet 1000 of your own moneyon whether or not DW would performe better or worse than last season, which way would you go?

Same with Slaton

Looking at the splits of the season, I think its fair money to say that Slaton has the better chance of beating his stats from last season that DW.

The problem with thinking like that is this, I think they'll both come down, but Williams coming down is likely still as good or better than Slaton going up.The original question wasn't who will be better compared to last season, the question is who will be better.

I can't understand any reason for someone to think Slaton, unless they think Stewart is going to blow by DeAngelo this year.

 

[Garts]

Williams, by a ton.

I don't see Slaton lasting long with the workload he saw last year. I see him as more a COP who played well, but he tired out near the end of the year.

No he didn't. Last 5 games:vs Jax: 21-130-2, 2-52vs GB: 26-120, 3-40vs TEN: 24-100, 3-15vs OAK: 18-66, 5-36vs CHI: 20-92-1, 5-36The "he tired out" is one of those myths that keeps recirculating. At one point, Kubiak said he looked tired, which was the week they played BAL and he had 4 carries. Then he went 14-156-1 and 21-73-0 before the final 5 games above.

Hmmm, I thought I heard he hit a bit of a wall at the end.My bad I guess.

 

[golfguy]

The problem with thinking like that is this, I think they'll both come down, but Williams coming down is likely still as good or better than Slaton going up.

this is were i agree. i know that carolina has a better offensive line, plays in a weaker defensive conference.i like slaton, however, they play in a tougher conference. their line is suspect at times. slaton had 268 carries last season (as the feature back for the bulk of the season) for 1282 yards 9 tds, 50 catches for 377 yards 1td.williams had 274 carries last season for (while splitting time with johnathan stewart) for 1518 yards 18 tds and 22 catches for 121 yards and 2 tds.my point is that carolina is a run first team, has a good line. and i think williams numbers will decrease as stewart increases (stewart did have a 183 carries last year as well, however dwill is only locked up for 1 more year), HOWEVER slaton is going to be splitting with someone else.and frankly slaton couldn't stay healthy when he was WVU, so i don't know how he will do it in the NFL. i hope he does, but if i had to bet, i would bet on dwill first.

 

[Biabreakable]

Suprised by this topic. Which is a good thing.

Talent wise I do not think they are close. Williams has skills that Slaton can only dream about.

That being said if Slaton does not share carries/catches and Williams does these 2 might score closer to each other in FF than one might think.

 

[Mainevent]

I own both in dynasty, and am not going to get anywhere near fair market price on these guys at this point in time... so I am holding. I value DWill more than Slaton though, but I am interested to see how both fair this season. DWill really picked up the slack for me last year, when Portis cooled down at the end of the season, also on my team along with new feature back, MJD. Not sure who to start week to week...

 

[Tanner9919]

D. Williams is the better talent, but it's not a given that he is the better fantasy option. I prefer him to Slaton, but they aren't miles apart or anything.

I disagree, D-Willy is a late 1st round guy, in my opinion Slaton is a late 3rd rounder and goes after several WR's and a few QB's. Steve Slaton is residing very highly on my 2009 bust list.

I'd probably agree if it wasn't for the Texans' head coach, Gary Kubiak.That guy squeezes every ounce out of a RB and on offensive line and really knows his play-calling Xs and Os..Also, Alex Gibbs re-signed for another year with Houston..the best O-line zone-blocking coach in the NFL..

from wiki:

Gibbs worked with Texans head coach Gary Kubiak, who served as the offensive coordinator in Denver, from 1995-03. During their time together, the Broncos led the NFL in rushing with 20,150 yards. Denver finished second in total offense with 54,167 yards during their nine seasons together.

Houston doesn't appear to have a hangar full of re-tread RB's like Denver..this is Slaton's job to lose, his stats should go up in 2009..

 

[JAA]

and frankly slaton couldn't stay healthy when he was WVU, so i don't know how he will do it in the NFL. i hope he does, but if i had to bet, i would bet on dwill first.

How many games did Slaton miss his entire time at WVU?Do us all a favor and do not spout junk like this unless you can back it up, thanks

 

[JAA]

Williams has skills that Slaton can only dream about.

What are you basing this on ... please be specific

 

[JAA]

D. Williams is the better talent, but it's not a given that he is the better fantasy option. I prefer him to Slaton, but they aren't miles apart or anything.

I disagree, D-Willy is a late 1st round guy, in my opinion Slaton is a late 3rd rounder and goes after several WR's and a few QB's. Steve Slaton is residing very highly on my 2009 bust list.

I'd probably agree if it wasn't for the Texans' head coach, Gary Kubiak.That guy squeezes every ounce out of a RB and on offensive line and really knows his play-calling Xs and Os..Also, Alex Gibbs re-signed for another year with Houston..the best O-line zone-blocking coach in the NFL..

from wiki:

Gibbs worked with Texans head coach Gary Kubiak, who served as the offensive coordinator in Denver, from 1995-03. During their time together, the Broncos led the NFL in rushing with 20,150 yards. Denver finished second in total offense with 54,167 yards during their nine seasons together.

Houston doesn't appear to have a hangar full of re-tread RB's like Denver..this is Slaton's job to lose, his stats should go up in 2009..

People dont realize how significant it is that Slaton plays for the Texans. The SAME zone-blocking system that Hou uses is the SAME scheme Slaton ran behind at WVU.yes, I am a homer but I am only posting facts here

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Here is why I think Williams is being over rated. 15 of his 18 TD came in 7 weeks (week 11-16). I know this worked out great for his owner last year but I just do not see him getting close to 18 TDs again. He is my vote for the most over rated RB this year, redraft or dynasty

The FBG experts have Williams as the #8 RB dynasty back (two of the four ratings have him below #10). He's young, talented, and was the #1 back last year. It's really tough for me to call that overrated.Where should the #1 back from last year be? #20? Sure, his TDs will likely regress, which is true for ANY back who lead the league in TDs from the previous year. His season as a whole may very well be weaker (which again, applies to every back who was #1 in a given year), but the question is how FAR do you drop him based on a situation that hasn't changed very much.Seems like a lot of people are worried about Stewart, and that COULD be a concern for a year or two. But, keep a couple of things in mind:1) Stewart was there last year, and it didn't seem to hurt Williams much.2) Williams has two years left on his contract, including this year. In the modern NFL, guys very often find a way out of that last year anyway, so it is very likely that the Stewart "issue" will be a NON-issue after one year. So how much do ding a very young back for having to deal with some competition for one, MAYBE two years?I'm not saying Williams should be the #1 back (though you could honestly make a legit case for #2), but I've seen more than a few folks call him overrated, and at #8 I just don't see it.Just to be clear, my perspective is just on the dynasty aspect, redraft is a different story to me.

 

[bcr8f]

D. Williams is the better talent, but it's not a given that he is the better fantasy option. I prefer him to Slaton, but they aren't miles apart or anything.

I disagree, D-Willy is a late 1st round guy, in my opinion Slaton is a late 3rd rounder and goes after several WR's and a few QB's. Steve Slaton is residing very highly on my 2009 bust list.

Not mine. The draft will determine a lot. I see Houston going defense so if they pick a RB it will be late.

 

[golfguy]

West Virginia's Steve Slaton has wrist surgeryJanuary 18, 2007by The Associated PressMORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) — West Virginia running back Steve Slaton had surgery on his right wrist and will miss spring practice, coach Rich Rodriguez said.Slaton injured the wrist during the 2005 season. A pin was inserted in the wrist during surgery this week, Rodriguez said. Slaton also hurt his left elbow and wrist in a Nov. 2 loss at Louisville and played sparingly in the Gator Bowl after suffering a deep thigh bruise in practice.

How many games did Slaton miss his entire time at WVU?Do us all a favor and do not spout junk like this unless you can back it up, thanks

now i know he didn't miss games because of this, but he was hurt. and maybe i remember incorrectly (i thought he missed some games during his junior year). hey i have both of these guys in dynasty leagues. i'm just saying that i think dilliams is better. i'm not saying slaton is a bust or worthless at all. if anything i think the better argument is who is better, slaton or chris johnson. since johnson seems to be getting soooo much more love then slaton, and i can't figure that one out.JAA- you from morgantown? one of my good friends lives there, he helps out on the weekends bartending at some bar there.

 

[TheFanatic]

To mock a guy for saying that he would take Slaton over Deangelo in a PPR dynasty league is pretty ridiculous. Deangelo may get more TD's but he also hast Stewart there and Slaton has the catches. This is not a clear cut case of one towering over the other in terms of ability/performance.

i wasn't really mocking him, first of all. i was just playing around. secondly if you put slaton near dwills (as if they are in the same tier) you are nuts. deangelo is a lot better then slaton. especially in a dynasty. with williams you pretty much know what you have, with slaton not so much. and with the high likelihood that houston takes a RB in round 1 or 2 this year, slaton will drop off in production as well.

The guy I quoted said in a PPR. In that format they are in the same tier. In a non PPR then they are not. I believe that DW has a lot more talent as a pure back than Slaton. But Slaton is used in a way that in a PPR league he is in the same tier. That's not nuts no matter how much bold it...

 

[DoubleG]

I'd suggest we revisit this topic after the draft this weekend. It seems to me that Slaton's value drops considerably if they go after an RB early.

 

[JAA]

West Virginia's Steve Slaton has wrist surgeryJanuary 18, 2007by The Associated PressMORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) — West Virginia running back Steve Slaton had surgery on his right wrist and will miss spring practice, coach Rich Rodriguez said.Slaton injured the wrist during the 2005 season. A pin was inserted in the wrist during surgery this week, Rodriguez said. Slaton also hurt his left elbow and wrist in a Nov. 2 loss at Louisville and played sparingly in the Gator Bowl after suffering a deep thigh bruise in practice.

How many games did Slaton miss his entire time at WVU?Do us all a favor and do not spout junk like this unless you can back it up, thanks

now i know he didn't miss games because of this, but he was hurt. and maybe i remember incorrectly (i thought he missed some games during his junior year). hey i have both of these guys in dynasty leagues. i'm just saying that i think dilliams is better. i'm not saying slaton is a bust or worthless at all. if anything i think the better argument is who is better, slaton or chris johnson. since johnson seems to be getting soooo much more love then slaton, and i can't figure that one out.JAA- you from morgantown? one of my good friends lives there, he helps out on the weekends bartending at some bar there.

Im from Philly ... WVU was the only school that would let me in Slaton played the entire season with the wrist injury, that is why he had a case of fumblitis that year. As you can tell, its since been rectified.There are any number of things that can be said to bring Slaton down, injury concerns isnt one of them.Chris Johnson is a stud, DW is a stud (I think), Slaton is not a stud per se, but will excel in the Hou offense where he gets ~22 touches a game. I believe Slatons receptions next season are going to increase, maybe past 65. Thats a lot considering he is already at 50!

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I'd suggest we revisit this topic after the draft this weekend. It seems to me that Slaton's value drops considerably if they go after an RB early.

How early?Everyone already expects the team to get a complementary back, and Slaton's value is already lowered because of it. So who are they going to get that would realistically do more damage to his value than is already expected? I can think of maybe two guys, Greene and Wells, and I'm not sure it's all that likely Wells would go to Houston. There are other decent backs in the draft, but a lot of the better ones are in the same mold as Slaton, so why get a back who might be able to do the same things they already know Slaton can do.I do see your point, but with Slaton in particular it seems to me people are generally already expecting the "worst". His value could actually go up after the draft if they DON'T get a decent guy to compete with him.

 

[JAA]

I'd suggest we revisit this topic after the draft this weekend. It seems to me that Slaton's value drops considerably if they go after an RB early.

How early?Everyone already expects the team to get a complementary back, and Slaton's value is already lowered because of it. So who are they going to get that would realistically do more damage to his value than is already expected? I can think of maybe two guys, Greene and Wells, and I'm not sure it's all that likely Wells would go to Houston. There are other decent backs in the draft, but a lot of the better ones are in the same mold as Slaton, so why get a back who might be able to do the same things they already know Slaton can do.I do see your point, but with Slaton in particular it seems to me people are generally already expecting the "worst". His value could actually go up after the draft if they DON'T get a decent guy to compete with him.

agreedIm not sure it matters when they go after a RB. Just ask Willie Parker or Deangelo Williams

 

[TheFanatic]

I'd suggest we revisit this topic after the draft this weekend. It seems to me that Slaton's value drops considerably if they go after an RB early.

How early?Everyone already expects the team to get a complementary back, and Slaton's value is already lowered because of it. So who are they going to get that would realistically do more damage to his value than is already expected? I can think of maybe two guys, Greene and Wells, and I'm not sure it's all that likely Wells would go to Houston. There are other decent backs in the draft, but a lot of the better ones are in the same mold as Slaton, so why get a back who might be able to do the same things they already know Slaton can do.I do see your point, but with Slaton in particular it seems to me people are generally already expecting the "worst". His value could actually go up after the draft if they DON'T get a decent guy to compete with him.

Everyone is assuming a very early RB. I don't see it happening day 1 (remember it's only the first two rounds on day 1 now). Third round? Maybe. 4th or 5th is more likely. I see a Tim Hightower type guy there. Eat into some short yardage and some TD's but the bulk to Slaton. And in this age of the multiheaded monster at RB, that's just fine with me.

 

[fsufan]

Here is why I think Williams is being over rated. 15 of his 18 TD came in 7 weeks (week 11-16). I know this worked out great for his owner last year but I just do not see him getting close to 18 TDs again.

He is my vote for the most over rated RB this year, redraft or dynasty

The FBG experts have Williams as the #8 RB dynasty back (two of the four ratings have him below #10). He's young, talented, and was the #1 back last year. It's really tough for me to call that overrated.

Where should the #1 back from last year be? #20? Sure, his TDs will likely regress, which is true for ANY back who lead the league in TDs from the previous year. His season as a whole may very well be weaker (which again, applies to every back who was #1 in a given year), but the question is how FAR do you drop him based on a situation that hasn't changed very much.

Seems like a lot of people are worried about Stewart, and that COULD be a concern for a year or two. But, keep a couple of things in mind:

1) Stewart was there last year, and it didn't seem to hurt Williams much.

2) Williams has two years left on his contract, including this year. In the modern NFL, guys very often find a way out of that last year anyway, so it is very likely that the Stewart "issue" will be a NON-issue after one year. So how much do ding a very young back for having to deal with some competition for one, MAYBE two years?

I'm not saying Williams should be the #1 back (though you could honestly make a legit case for #2), but I've seen more than a few folks call him overrated, and at #8 I just don't see it.

Just to be clear, my perspective is just on the dynasty aspect, redraft is a different story to me.

just becuase someone owns or works for a FF site does not make them an expertI think Williams is over valued in dynasty as well. you will have to draft him in the first round of a start up dynasty league and he most likely will be in a RBBC for the next 2 or 3 years. you can get slaton in the 3rd, most likely, and i think he will be just as productive, if not more, as Williams over the next 2 or 3 years.

 

[FBGPoker]

I'd say there is a VERY small chance Slaton repeats last years numbers.

He fell into a situation where all of his backfield mates got injured so he was used in every situation (even in ones he usually wouldn't be like short yardage/goal-line work).

DeAngelo does everything as good or better then Slaton and is FAR better between the tackles.

I'd put the odds at 85% or so that Slatons fantasy numbers decrease. I'd put the same odds on DeAngelo's decreasing but he is falling from a much higher place so even if he drops off 10-15% he is still a top RB.

Slaton is grossly over-rated by many in Fantasy Football. He's a top 20-25 RB, but his upside is very limited unless every one of his backfield mates gets hurt again during the season.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Here is why I think Williams is being over rated. 15 of his 18 TD came in 7 weeks (week 11-16). I know this worked out great for his owner last year but I just do not see him getting close to 18 TDs again.

He is my vote for the most over rated RB this year, redraft or dynasty

The FBG experts have Williams as the #8 RB dynasty back (two of the four ratings have him below #10). He's young, talented, and was the #1 back last year. It's really tough for me to call that overrated.

Where should the #1 back from last year be? #20? Sure, his TDs will likely regress, which is true for ANY back who lead the league in TDs from the previous year. His season as a whole may very well be weaker (which again, applies to every back who was #1 in a given year), but the question is how FAR do you drop him based on a situation that hasn't changed very much.

Seems like a lot of people are worried about Stewart, and that COULD be a concern for a year or two. But, keep a couple of things in mind:

1) Stewart was there last year, and it didn't seem to hurt Williams much.

2) Williams has two years left on his contract, including this year. In the modern NFL, guys very often find a way out of that last year anyway, so it is very likely that the Stewart "issue" will be a NON-issue after one year. So how much do ding a very young back for having to deal with some competition for one, MAYBE two years?

I'm not saying Williams should be the #1 back (though you could honestly make a legit case for #2), but I've seen more than a few folks call him overrated, and at #8 I just don't see it.

Just to be clear, my perspective is just on the dynasty aspect, redraft is a different story to me.

just becuase someone owns or works for a FF site does not make them an expertI think Williams is over valued in dynasty as well. you will have to draft him in the first round of a start up dynasty league and he most likely will be in a RBBC for the next 2 or 3 years. you can get slaton in the 3rd, most likely, and i think he will be just as productive, if not more, as Williams over the next 2 or 3 years.

Folks getting their panties in a wad over the use of the term "expert" always cracks me up. You may or may not agree with them (just like I disagree with them on Williams for the most part), but they are getting paid to do something you and I do for free. Who cares what we call them? But that's not the point anyway. The point is, Williams is generally looked at NOT having great value (and I used the guys who work for the site we are posting on as evidence of this, you let me know where I should be looking instead). #8 is pretty low for a guy who just finished a season as the #1 guy. I can't think of any other time where the #1 back from the previous season who also happens to be quite young has ever been ranked anywhere NEAR that low on any kind of dynasty list.I am also not sure why you would assume a RBBC for two or three years. Two years, MAYBE (but I doubt it considering everything that can happen in the NFL these days and with Williams making peanuts this year and next). Why in the heck would you predict a three year RBBC for a guy who has two years left on a rookie contract? Besides, he was in a RBBC last year. That seemed to work out OK.

 

[B Will]

I'd say there is a VERY small chance Slaton repeats last years numbers.He fell into a situation where all of his backfield mates got injured so he was used in every situation (even in ones he usually wouldn't be like short yardage/goal-line work).DeAngelo does everything as good or better then Slaton and is FAR better between the tackles.I'd put the odds at 85% or so that Slatons fantasy numbers decrease. I'd put the same odds on DeAngelo's decreasing but he is falling from a much higher place so even if he drops off 10-15% he is still a top RB.Slaton is grossly over-rated by many in Fantasy Football. He's a top 20-25 RB, but his upside is very limited unless every one of his backfield mates gets hurt again during the season.

I cant agree. Im also a owner. Top 20-25? He was 8th RB in my league. Ahman Green took touchdowns too. He's just going to get better. He is one of their main franchise players.

 

[Loan Sharks]

To mock a guy for saying that he would take Slaton over Deangelo in a PPR dynasty league is pretty ridiculous. Deangelo may get more TD's but he also hast Stewart there and Slaton has the catches. This is not a clear cut case of one towering over the other in terms of ability/performance.

i wasn't really mocking him, first of all. i was just playing around. secondly if you put slaton near dwills (as if they are in the same tier) you are nuts. deangelo is a lot better then slaton. especially in a dynasty. with williams you pretty much know what you have, with slaton not so much. and with the high likelihood that houston takes a RB in round 1 or 2 this year, slaton will drop off in production as well.

here's a thoughtIf you had to bet 1000 of your own moneyon whether or not DW would performe better or worse than last season

, which way would you go?Same with Slaton

Looking at the splits of the season, I think its fair money to say that Slaton has the better chance of beating his stats from last season that DW.

That is not what the OP asked this is about dynasty long term production. You ask if I would bet Williams will outperform his last year stats = probably not

But I would bet that

Williams outperforms Slaton this year and throughout overall career stats which is what the debate is.

 

[jabarony]

Simplified answer here (full disclosure, D. Williams waxed me in my championship) - D. Williams had a great year, but I'm thinking long term he'll be closer to his 1st two years. If D. Williams were as good as some think, he wouldn't have been fighting D. Foster for PT. Nor would they have drafted Stewart.

I can't say Slaton is head & shoulders better...mostly I just don't think Williams is that great. 1000 yds/7 tds my target for him.

 

[two_dollars]

PPR redraft, I currently have Slaton #8, Williams #10.