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Were it not for the holding he wouldnt of had those big runs anyways..really tired of reading about the negated plays due to penalties.. he had 72 yds period.packersfan said:
Fair enough. He averaged 6.5 YPC. The week before Mathews averaged 5.3. My belief still remains that this is, on paper, a very good matchup for the Carolina running game this week.
Really tired of guys who don't know what they are talking about speaking as if they do. Did you actually watch the plays to determine whether or not they actually affected the big runs? Oh right, you didn't.
I think this will be a close game and if it's a close game I expect the Panthers to run the ball a lot. Maybe they don't cash in but given the Rams' struggles the last two games against the run I think the volume that will be available for the Panthers lends itself to the potential for a lot of production. Again, whether it's Williams, Stewart or both, I like the Panthers' running game this week. The Rams have really scaled back their offense the last few games with Bradford so this could be a game where Williams/Stewart (or Stewart) and SJax are the dominant offensive participants.
You play the same owner every week?
wow I thought I was the only one...
Who are you going to drop him for, Blount/Hart/Kuhn? Panthers had been playing horrible and even then he was still producing top 30 Fantasy RB numbers. Just hope the life they showed with Matt Moore under center last week continues. I'll sit tight.
Have you taken a gander at some/most of them?I'm willing to be that at any given time they are either:A) Scaring children, orB) Eating.
PPR I'm seriously considering dropping him for Woodhead (can't believe I just typed that). With byes and injuries I've got 1 RB I can start this week right now.
This is what I'm still holding out hope for but this years offense structure has been entirely different than years past. Carolina has very little commitment to run and that is doom for a two headed running back team with terrible run blocking.
Watch the plays before u make stupid comments ... One of the penalties (the 46 yarder) was a block in the back on a defender who had no chance to make a play. I didn't see the other ... so I won't comment
I'm puzzled by this line of thinking. This isn't last year. If people were considering benching DeAngelo this year, why does Stewart get must-start billing?The Carolina running game isn't as good as it was last season. Last season DeAngelo was RB8 in terms of PPG. This year he's RB29 so far. Both RB's averaged over 5.0 ypc last year. This year DeAngelo has dropped off a full yard per carry (down to 4.15 ypc) while Stewart has managed only 2.96 ypc. They've combined for 100+ rushing yards only once this season...107 yards against the Saints who were ranked 24th in rushing defense at the time. By this time last season they had combined for (2) 100+ yard games and a 267 yard game against TB. Last week, with Moore actually putting up some yards through the air, Williams and Stewart still only combined for 73 yards...on 33 carries. And the 49'ers ranked 14th against the run. How many carries do you all see Stewart getting this weekend against the 15th ranked Rams? How certain are we that Moore performs in week 8 like he did in week 7? Or is he going to regress and play like he was earlier in the season? Do you think any Carolina RB is going to approach 20-25 carries if Moore regresses? There just won't be enough sustained drives if that happens. And the Rams aren't slouches at putting pressure on QB's this year.I just don't see Stewart as a must start unless you really have mediocre choices at RB. Could Stewart pop for a big game? Sure, it's possible. But that's exactly what we've been saying about DeAngelo every week this season.I own both DeAngelo and Stewart. If DeAngelo isn't ruled out, I won't be starting either of them. And even if DeAngelo is ruled out, I'll still be thinking long and hard about my other RB options this week. There's just something wrong with the Carolina running game this year, and it isn't that the RB's have been splitting carries.Grahamburn said:
I love two of these three.......I'm just not telling which two.drunk intern? fat chicks? cookie monster?thatguythere said:In an ESPN league here is what they had to say for his projection....
A foot sprain threatens his status, so don't jump to declare this a no-brainer matchup. He's fantasy football's answer to Skittles: Decent but not great, but if you want to understand the downside, toss the candy on your ice cream sometime. (Note: First kiss your teeth goodbye.)
who writes this stuff.....
I bet they are multi-taskers so I vote C: Eating scared children.I can't keep track of DWill's annual boo-boos, anyone know if this toe/foot has been injured before?5-ish Finkle said:
My feelings exactly. Maybe it's missing Odeh but the line is not opening the holes they were last year. I had made my mind up to leave Stewart on the bench regardless of whether Williams plays or not but then I took a look at Dodds/Blooms rankings and was surprised how high they both have him!Maybe they are seeing something we're notJamesTheScot said:
ETA: I just read Krees post and this could be where the staff are coming from. More carries=better production despite the abysmal blocking on the O-Line?
I was simply pointing out that when Stewart gets the opportunity to be the featured back and hammer on a defense for four quarters he produces large quantities of fantasy points. He hasn't had that opportunity in 2010, yet.The Panthers have been using a 3 RB rotation to the detriment of each player's fantasy value. My line of thinking is this: When you take away one of those pieces (via DeAngelo Williams injury), Jonathan Stewart becomes the featured back without another legitimate player to take significant touches away. Rocket science, right?JamesTheScot said:
Goodson has gotten one carry the past three games. He no longer is a major threat to either Williams or Stewart in terms of rushing attempts. He likely will see his role increase if Williams is out but I think we've seen the Panthers shift away from the (in my opinion) bizarre decision earlier in the season to use Goodson more at the expense of Williams and Stewart. If Williams is out, I think Stewart is a lock to receive 15+ carries barring injury with 20+ very probable. As I've posted, I expect this game to be close and if it's close the Panthers will run the ball. The Panthers are not going to change their identity in a close game. We saw that last week against the 49ers. They ran the ball 33 times. I expect a high rushing total this week as well. For what it's worth I'm not a Williams owner but if I was I would start him without hesitation this week if he was healthy for all the reasons I've talked about in this thread. I think this is a nice matchup for the Panthers.
If Dwill is out for sure then I most definitely would start Stewart over Charles. Without hesitation.
So you would start Stewart over a guy who just last year ran for 143/TD and chipped in an additional 7 catches/38 against the Bills last year in Arrowhead? I can understand Stewart being a decent play, but starting him over Charles who is playing on a team that leads the league in rushing and averaging over 5 YPC against a team that is 2nd to last in the NFL against the run I think is potentially really dumb.
I am tentatively penciling him in over either Dez Bryant or Steve Johnson or Mike X Williams. Tough call between those three. If DWill practices today then he is sitting on my bench until that run game shows some signs of life.
I wouldn't call it dumb. Charles is splitting carries while Stewart wouldn't if Deangelo sits.
If KC is up big, it could be a 3 headed rushing attack with McCluster too.
McCluster has a high ankle sprain. He's out this week.
Normally, I would agree with you, however, the entire Carolina Offense has been terrible and the team, as a whole, is averaging 3.5 yards per carry and JStew is averaging only 3 yards per carry this year. Dumb might have been a little harsh, but I wouldn't, as the poster mentioned, start JStew over Charles "without hesitation".
Then I would definitely go with Charles over Stewart even with DWill out.
I think im going with Mike Hart anyways..even if he was playing..
F-me.
30 rushing yards for Stewart and there's only 9:00 minutes left in the game.And Goodsen hasn't been stealing that many touches over the last couple of weeks.I was simply pointing out that when Stewart gets the opportunity to be the featured back and hammer on a defense for four quarters he produces large quantities of fantasy points. He hasn't had that opportunity in 2010, yet.The Panthers have been using a 3 RB rotation to the detriment of each player's fantasy value. My line of thinking is this: When you take away one of those pieces (via DeAngelo Williams injury), Jonathan Stewart becomes the featured back without another legitimate player to take significant touches away. Rocket science, right?
The difference so far for DeAngelo in 2010 is that he has had another player stealing carries. The Panthers have also played the majority of their season with a rookie QB and their star WR injured. Matt Moore is the starter now and Steve Smith is back in the lineup. All positives for Carolina's offense.
In Stewart's starts last season he had 27, 30, and 16 touches respectively. He also had 27 touches in the game against Minnesota. The stats from those games are referenced in the post you quoted. I'm not benching a player of Stewart's caliber against the Rams if he's in line for 20+ touches, and he will be if Williams doesn't play.
I dunno can we start Jonathan Stewart even if he is the #1RB this weekend? The running game has done a complete 180 in Carolina this year.
