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Was that a fluke? I've had a severe man-crush on the guy but all he's done is burn me the past two seasons.

 
I was looking over his career and thinking the same thing. Could be a one-year wonder but has one thing going for him now. If he signs a one year deal with someone he'll be playing for a contract again.

 
I was looking over his career and thinking the same thing. Could be a one-year wonder but has one thing going for him now. If he signs a one year deal with someone he'll be playing for a contract again.
Why would he sign a 1 year contract if Carolina doesn't franchise him?
 
Because he's coming off two injury plagued seasons and only had one good season in his career and a lot of people will say it was due to the system he played in with John Fox. Unless he takes less money for a multiple-year deal no team will sign him. They can just draft a younger, cheaper back through the draft.

 
Running backs are not in high demand in the NFL and especially ones that ask for big money. Maybe shanahan would pay big money but I can't see anyone else doing it.

 
Despite an injury-filled last year on a terrible team, he's still over 5 YPC for his career. VERY few backs can say that.

He was a monster in college as well.

I think the guy is as talented as any back in the league, except maybe Peterson. Injuries are a factor for him, but I think he's a great buy low right now in most formats. As likely the #1 RB FA, he's going to go to a team that will need/use him. If he can hold up, he could really have a lights-out next couple of years.

 
Because he's coming off two injury plagued seasons and only had one good season in his career and a lot of people will say it was due to the system he played in with John Fox. Unless he takes less money for a multiple-year deal no team will sign him. They can just draft a younger, cheaper back through the draft.
There is virtually no chance he signs a one year deal. He may not break the bank, but he'll be a valuable commodity, and some team will be thrilled to take him for the next couple of years. There has been no indication that I have seen that he is pricing himself out of the market, and he'll just get whatever he can get in terms of bonus. That's all that matters anyway.
 
Running backs are not in high demand in the NFL and especially ones that ask for big money. Maybe shanahan would pay big money but I can't see anyone else doing it.
Shanahan traded an in-his-prime (and still speedy) Clinton Portis for what he deemed a more important position (elite CB), because he wasn't willing to give him what he knew he was worth on the open market.What about that makes you think he'd spend big $$ on a much older, more injury-prone FA RB? No way.
 
The only reason I think shanahan would sign DWill to a big-money contract is because he's now playing with Snyder's money and they will likely draft a qb and defense.

 
Running backs are not in high demand in the NFL and especially ones that ask for big money. Maybe shanahan would pay big money but I can't see anyone else doing it.
Shanahan traded an in-his-prime (and still speedy) Clinton Portis for what he deemed a more important position (elite CB), because he wasn't willing to give him what he knew he was worth on the open market.What about that makes you think he'd spend big $$ on a much older, more injury-prone FA RB? No way.
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Despite an injury-filled last year on a terrible team, he's still over 5 YPC for his career. VERY few backs can say that.He was a monster in college as well.I think the guy is as talented as any back in the league, except maybe Peterson. Injuries are a factor for him, but I think he's a great buy low right now in most formats. As likely the #1 RB FA, he's going to go to a team that will need/use him. If he can hold up, he could really have a lights-out next couple of years.
:goodposting: He's a stud, plain and simple. While he never complained being in a RBBC, he's come nowhere near his potential. I don't see any argument that he had a fluke season, although he might remain a victim of circumstance. Really set the Panthers back IMHO in a lot of ways burning the 1st on Stewart so soon after using a 1st to take Deangelo, and then not giving either a chance to live up to the billing. Think I read he was given the first-and-third tender, which likely to remain valid under the new CBA? If he's restricted in any way, it will make it really hard for him to move. Hopefully he gets traded because he's just not going to flourish in Carolina with the state of that team, unfortunately.
 
Because he's coming off two injury plagued seasons and only had one good season in his career and a lot of people will say it was due to the system he played in with John Fox. Unless he takes less money for a multiple-year deal no team will sign him. They can just draft a younger, cheaper back through the draft.
You are pretty far off base in thinking he'll sign a one year deal. Anyone who considers signing him will know that his numbers weren't better in other seasons because Fox had him sharing carries when he should have been riding him. And in his past couple of seasons, because there was no passing game to take any defensive focus away from the running backs.
 
The only reason I think shanahan would sign DWill to a big-money contract is because he's now playing with Snyder's money and they will likely draft a qb and defense.
But he's been playing smart with Snyder's money, so far. Its the draft picks being used/traded smartly that I'm more worried about.
 
Just my opinion, but my gut feeling is that the tenders under the current CBA are meaningless as far keeping the players with their current team. That being said, they DO give an indication of how much the current team values the player. If the players have to give up some money, and if they give less to rookies in order to help vets out, then I do NOT see the current RFA and UFA system being continued. Players will need to be eligible for full and unrestricted FA much sooner than they are currently.

I just don't see DeAngelo back in CAR for these reasons. I doubt that if he is a fully free agent that CAR will be able to afford the luxury of keeping him. It sounds like Miami is courting him and I think that move makes sense for everyone.

 
Just my opinion, but my gut feeling is that the tenders under the current CBA are meaningless as far keeping the players with their current team. That being said, they DO give an indication of how much the current team values the player. If the players have to give up some money, and if they give less to rookies in order to help vets out, then I do NOT see the current RFA and UFA system being continued. Players will need to be eligible for full and unrestricted FA much sooner than they are currently. I just don't see DeAngelo back in CAR for these reasons. I doubt that if he is a fully free agent that CAR will be able to afford the luxury of keeping him. It sounds like Miami is courting him and I think that move makes sense for everyone.
:goodposting: CBA or no CBA, Williams will be an unrestricted FA.
 
Running backs are not in high demand in the NFL and especially ones that ask for big money. Maybe shanahan would pay big money but I can't see anyone else doing it.
Neither of these sentences are particularly true. Teams have gone after FA RBs each season - in fact even a 32 year old Thomas Jones signed a pretty decent 2 year deal last offseason. Shanahan is well known to prefer getting production out of no name backs with his ZBS, and has shied away from "star" RBs.
 
Despite an injury-filled last year on a terrible team, he's still over 5 YPC for his career. VERY few backs can say that.He was a monster in college as well.I think the guy is as talented as any back in the league, except maybe Peterson. Injuries are a factor for him, but I think he's a great buy low right now in most formats. As likely the #1 RB FA, he's going to go to a team that will need/use him. If he can hold up, he could really have a lights-out next couple of years.
To be fair, he's not "over 5 YPC for his career", he's at 5.007. I'd just call that 5 even, not "over".Also, the OP said that maybe he was a one year wonder, and if you take that one year aside, he's at 4.75 YPC (with less than 2,700 yards in 4 NFL seasons). He also had 20 TDs that one "magical" season, and only 15 total the other 4 seasons. Fumbles that one year - 0, fumbles all other years - 6.
 
I saw on NFL Network that Denver is very interested in DeAngelo Williams (I know, not brand new news). Not a good thing for Moreno owners.

Updated to say I saw on NFL Network, not ESPN.

 
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Simply stated, DeAngelo is the 1st or 2nd best RB talent in the league.
whats funny is I see alot of DeAngelo in Knowshon. Early sturggles, but glimpses of brilliance. Now DeAngelo might replace him in Denver. Wonder if the Broncos move Knowshon if DeAngelo shows up?The only thing stopping the Broncos from getting him might be the CBA and the tags Carolina can use to keep him
 
Despite an injury-filled last year on a terrible team, he's still over 5 YPC for his career. VERY few backs can say that.He was a monster in college as well.I think the guy is as talented as any back in the league, except maybe Peterson. Injuries are a factor for him, but I think he's a great buy low right now in most formats. As likely the #1 RB FA, he's going to go to a team that will need/use him. If he can hold up, he could really have a lights-out next couple of years.
To be fair, he's not "over 5 YPC for his career", he's at 5.007. I'd just call that 5 even, not "over".Also, the OP said that maybe he was a one year wonder, and if you take that one year aside, he's at 4.75 YPC (with less than 2,700 yards in 4 NFL seasons). He also had 20 TDs that one "magical" season, and only 15 total the other 4 seasons. Fumbles that one year - 0, fumbles all other years - 6.
What are you trying to say here?
 

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