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Deeper dive WW WR (1 Viewer)

Horses Mouth

Horses Mouth

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Let us look at a few guys that may be on your WW. I'm looking for the next strong WR3 with WR2 upside.

Jabar Gaffney WAS Looked pretty good in game 1 and just missed a huge blown coverage for a TD. I think he may turn into a solid wr3 as Grossman seems to like him and moss will get the better cb. How about Fred Davis?

David Nelson BUF. Might be a sneaky ww pick. Has the size and buffalo will be throwing. Stevie Johnson will draw the best cb so Nelson may just get out of the log jam and shine

Randall Cobb GB. Awesome raw talent but #5 in offense behind talented guys. Injuries to others may jettison him in to the spotlight.

Devery Henderson NOS. Deep threat. Boom or bust but with Moore and Colston hurting he may get more opps at least for a few weeks.

Brandon Lafell CAR Looked pretty good and Steve Smith will draw best CB. Can Cam keep it up? Is he the clear #2?

Steve Smith PHI. Coming off injury but proven in NY. Crowded WR corps.

Doucet ARI. Dont know much about that situation

Eric Decker DEN Lloyd could be hampered and from what I saw on nfl.com, Decker looked quite impressive. DEN will be throwing a lot especially with that questionable running game.

What are your thoughts?

Edited to add: Decker info.

 
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How many threads with the same exact theme have their been this week? I don't even come to the pool much, and I've seen at least six deep sleeper WW WR who will be in demand in two weeks and are the best WR2/FF WR3-4....good gawd.

Jabar Gaffney - solid choice as a WR3 or bye week filler, but be realistic: 60-800-2.

David Nelson - def intriguing. I like Fitz a lot, and you have figure Stevie will continue to draw the best defenders. Good production on limited targets late last year and Week 1.

Randalk Cobb - I would be excited to have him in dynasty, but I see limited upside in redraft. But he has looked impressive.

Devery Henderson - the older version of Meachem - basically the same skill set, no? Very inconsistent historically, and with Lance coming back, short window of opportunity IMO. Oh, he could put up 50-750-5, but it would come on 3 big games and 12 weeks of mediocrity.

Brandon Lafell - I know it's different regimes, quarterbacks, etc...I've been down the "check the Panthers WR2" road before. No thanks.

Eric Decker is my personal fav for these discussion FWIW.

 
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Doucet ARI. Dont know much about.
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I think Andre Roberts is the clear choice here.
Larry Fitzgerald handled 56 of the team’s 59 offensive snaps on Sunday, which paced all Cardinals skill position players. Andre Roberts gets the clear edge over Early Doucet in the WR2 competition, playing 50 snaps, compared to just 22 for Doucet. -from profootballfocus.com
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Doucet really only had the one large TD catch where he just happened to have a wide open lane to the endzone while Roberts received one more target. If the Roberts owner in your league jumped ship after game 1 I'd snag him!
 
I really like this Cobb kid. with Rodgers as his QB all he has to do is get open and I don't see how he won't be able to do this against teams 4th and 5th cornerbacks/safties.

I mean I know he aint gonna get you a 1000 yards but I see the potential there. and when he does get catches they are probably gonna be long 1's. all he has to do is hold on to the ball and with those legs and I expect we see more and more of him.Rodgers likes to spread the ball around so he is in a excellent situation.

Of course when talking about Cobb we are usually talking about Dynasty or really deep redrafts. I would not think about him in a 10 teamer.

 
'Horses Mouth said:
Let us look at a few guys that may be on your WW. I'm looking for the next strong WR3 with WR2 upside. Jabar Gaffney WAS Looked pretty good in game 1 and just missed a huge blown coverage for a TD. I think he may turn into a solid wr3 as Grossman seems to like him and moss will get the better cb. How about Fred Davis?David Nelson BUF. Might be a sneaky ww pick. Has the size and buffalo will be throwing. Stevie Johnson will draw the best cb so Nelson may just get out of the log jam and shine Randall Cobb GB. Awesome raw talent but #5 in offense behind talented guys. Injuries to others may jettison him in to the spotlight.Devery Henderson NOS. Deep threat. Boom or bust but with Moore and Colston hurting he may get more opps at least for a few weeks. Brandon Lafell CAR Looked pretty good and Steve Smith will draw best CB. Can Cam keep it up? Is he the clear #2?Steve Smith PHI. Coming off injury but proven in NY. Crowded WR corps. Doucet ARI. Dont know much about. What are your thoughts?
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Really? You couldn't look for another post on the same subject still on page 1?Probably not with thoughts like this..."David Nelson BUF. Might be a sneaky ww pick. Has the size and buffalo will be throwing. Stevie Johnson will draw the best cb so Nelson may just get out of the log jam and shine"Nelson is listed as WR4 on the team depth chart and I am not sure he has played at all - NO catches so far this season, may be hurt, I didn't go check but you should have before posting - the #2WR in Buffalo if you are looking for a deep play is D. Jones who already has one touchdown and then Roscoe Parrish.And exactly how deep a league are you in that you want to worry about him?If it is that big aren't Gaffney, Cobb, Henderson, and Doucet already rostered? They are in my twelve team league
 
'Captain Hook said:
'Horses Mouth said:
Let us look at a few guys that may be on your WW. I'm looking for the next strong WR3 with WR2 upside. Jabar Gaffney WAS Looked pretty good in game 1 and just missed a huge blown coverage for a TD. I think he may turn into a solid wr3 as Grossman seems to like him and moss will get the better cb. How about Fred Davis?David Nelson BUF. Might be a sneaky ww pick. Has the size and buffalo will be throwing. Stevie Johnson will draw the best cb so Nelson may just get out of the log jam and shine Randall Cobb GB. Awesome raw talent but #5 in offense behind talented guys. Injuries to others may jettison him in to the spotlight.Devery Henderson NOS. Deep threat. Boom or bust but with Moore and Colston hurting he may get more opps at least for a few weeks. Brandon Lafell CAR Looked pretty good and Steve Smith will draw best CB. Can Cam keep it up? Is he the clear #2?Steve Smith PHI. Coming off injury but proven in NY. Crowded WR corps. Doucet ARI. Dont know much about. What are your thoughts?
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Really? You couldn't look for another post on the same subject still on page 1?Probably not with thoughts like this..."David Nelson BUF. Might be a sneaky ww pick. Has the size and buffalo will be throwing. Stevie Johnson will draw the best cb so Nelson may just get out of the log jam and shine"Nelson is listed as WR4 on the team depth chart and I am not sure he has played at all - NO catches so far this season, may be hurt, I didn't go check but you should have before posting - the #2WR in Buffalo if you are looking for a deep play is D. Jones who already has one touchdown and then Roscoe Parrish.
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Incorrect.David Nelson and Stevie Johnson were the most targeted WRs for Buffalo last week.Donald Jones caught 2 passes on 5 targets for 3 yards and a TD, while David Nelson and Stevie Johnson both caught 4 passes from 6 targets each gaining 66 yards.
 
While Nelson and Stevie were more targeted, and did have more catches, when discussing Nelson v Donald Jones, give me Donald Jones.

I'll take the guy that was on the field more. Donald Jones led all WRs with 63 snaps. Nelson had less than 40 (the same as Roscoe Parrish) and Jones was even on the field more than Stevie Styles himself!

Donald Jones could develop into something, especially with Stevie Johnson being hobbled this week.

Both are worth a gamble, but I prefer Jones.

 
'Captain Hook said:
Nelson is listed as WR4 on the team depth chart and I am not sure he has played at all - NO catches so far this season, may be hurt, I didn't go check but you should have before posting - the #2WR in Buffalo if you are looking for a deep play is D. Jones who already has one touchdown and then Roscoe Parrish.
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'Captain Hook said:
Really? You couldn't look for another post on the same subject still on page 1?Probably not with thoughts like this..."David Nelson BUF. Might be a sneaky ww pick. Has the size and buffalo will be throwing. Stevie Johnson will draw the best cb so Nelson may just get out of the log jam and shine"Nelson is listed as WR4 on the team depth chart and I am not sure he has played at all - NO catches so far this season, may be hurt, I didn't go check but you should have before posting - the #2WR in Buffalo if you are looking for a deep play is D. Jones who already has one touchdown and then Roscoe Parrish.And exactly how deep a league are you in that you want to worry about him?If it is that big aren't Gaffney, Cobb, Henderson, and Doucet already rostered? They are in my twelve team league
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:lmao: so you're input is completely wrong after insulting me regarding David Nelson.Additionally, in one of my leagues, all five on these guys are on the WW as our blind bid auction hasn't processed and we have a max of 6 WRs on any given roster so only 72 WRs are rostered (usually less). I'm sure these guys are scattered all over leagues WWs throughout the USA.I did notice you're interests are "wine and FF". best to lay off the sauce when posting it seems. :banned:
 
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'rocketsauce said:
While Nelson and Stevie were more targeted, and did have more catches, when discussing Nelson v Donald Jones, give me Donald Jones. I'll take the guy that was on the field more. Donald Jones led all WRs with 63 snaps. Nelson had less than 40
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This makes me want to hold onto David Nelson even more. Nelson was much more productive while playing only 60% the snaps that Jones did.
 
If people want to bury their heads in that sand and believe that Jones is a better option then Nelson in Buffalo then be my guest but most breakouts usually start from a trend and don't usually come from the middle of nowhere! Since late last season David Nelson has been progressing into a very nice fantasy receiver and you can view some stats that back up this claim from the links below.

On top of these stats Stevie Johnson has tweaked a groin injury and will probably still play this week but will be less than 100% which could open an even bigger door for Nelson!

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=611366&view=findpost&p=13543488

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=611366&view=findpost&p=13543697

 
:bag: my apologies on the stats - I checked a sheet that flipped Nelson's line with Parrish and I didn't double check it......My bad

BUT I still think the original question should have been in the other thread and Nelson and even Jones are not FA targets as good as Henderson or Gaffney or even Doucet (if he can stay healthy) for this year. And none of these are really digging "deeper"

 
'Captain Hook said:
:bag: my apologies on the stats - I checked a sheet that flipped Nelson's line with Parrish and I didn't double check it......My badBUT I still think the original question should have been in the other thread and Nelson and even Jones are not FA targets as good as Henderson or Gaffney or even Doucet (if he can stay healthy) for this year. And none of these are really digging "deeper"
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I agree that Nelson is clearly a reach currently but when I am evaluating possible sleeper receivers I'd rather hit a home run then a single! Over the 5 game stretch I posted in the links above Nelson has virtually equaled Stevie Johnson in fantasy points and if you broke those stats out over a 16 game schedule you'd get:58-736-10 and in my league 131 fantasy points, numbers similar to a Boldin, Welker or Britt based on last year's stats.Now obviously the 10 touchdowns is probably not likely but could we expect 7TDs and a bit more yds per game increase? Buffalo doesn't really use a TE like other teams do and Chandler was an aberration... he was only in the game for 12 offensive snaps. Nelson is 6'5", athletic, runs slightly faster than Johnson & has a 38" vertical! A guy like this could be a beast around the endzone and Fitz is a good, accurate QB who can deliver it. Also, over that 5 game stretch Nelson has caught 85.7% of the passes thrown his way.If Stevie Johnson's groin injury were to linger for a few weeks I could see where a guy like Nelson, if he were to excel while Johnson was hampered, could carve out an even greater role.Here are projections for some of those other guys you mentioned: Gaffney: 30yr old. Good bet for 600-800 yds and a couple TDs. I'd place his absolute ceiling as 900yds & 4tds.Henderson: 29yr old. Another 600-800yd guy with a couple TDs. Even with Colston out for an extended period a few years ago the beneficiary was Moore and not Henderson. I'd say his ceiling is no higher then Gaffneys.Doucet: Good young upside play but at the moment Doucet is getting less targets and less then half of the snaps that Roberts is in this offense. You also really have no idea if Kolb or this offense will be able to support 2 productive receivers, let alone 3!
 
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'wiscstlatlmia said:
Meachem has been Extremely inconsistent with his chances...I think Arrington's shot depends on how he plays the next few weeks.
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This one is going to be tough...he could be the "Golden Boy" or just fizzle due to depth. I am not betting on him yet, because Colston will come back (not a "severe" injury), so I think he may put up a couple of good stat lines and just get buried again..it happened to Henderson there, so I can see it happening again.
 
Anyone looking at Salas? Looks like he will be getting a shot as the slot rec. this week. I guess he would have been drafted in most dynasty leagues though so maybe its not worth mentioning. In any case the 2011 RookieScoutingPortfolio stated that this guys hands were possibly the best in the draft, he has decent size (6-1 210) and had 119 rec-1889 yds for Hawaii in 2010.

 
Decker tidbit:

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18907644

In the offseason, Decker worked out with Arizona star receiver Larry Fitzgerald, who grew up in Minnesota, from early March to mid-April at Arizona State University. Decker then attended the Brian Dawkins' organized workouts with trainer Loren Landow in May, simultaneously running patterns with Broncos quarterback Kyle Orton. Later, Decker attended Fitzgerald's camp back in Minnesota, where Orton flew in for a couple of days of work.

"He's ideal as a slot receiver," Orton said. "He can play outside too, but as a slot receiver he can really be an impact receiver with his combination of quickness, his size, and his brain.

"We worked hard together this whole offseason. Your slot receiver, he's got to be right. He's got to see the field and see the coverages the same way as the quarterback."

Read more: Eric Decker having big impact with Broncos as kick returner, receiver - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_18907644#ixzz1YA8G71PV

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'SaintsInDome2006 said:
Any thoughts on Baldwin in Seattle?

(Yeah, Seattle.)
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Undrafted after a great senior year at Stanford as Luck's favorite target (58-850ish-9). Not a burner (4.48), but the Seattle beat writers say he's good at creating separation over the middle of the field. Pretty good athlete; went to h.s. at Gulf Breeze (Pensacola) and high jumped 6-4, long jumped over 21 feet. Smallish, Steve Smith (Car) type frame, around 5-9/10, 189. Started his sophomore year, then had hamstring injuries as a junior (something like 4 catches), but won his gig back the first week of his senior year. Very impressive camp from day, coaches raved about him, took a kickoff back 105 yards his first preseason game. Caught a 55 yard td in his first regular season game.55 yard catch and run Week 1

I didn't catch his major or GPA, but I see graduated on time and belong to something the Science & Technology Society. Coaches talked about how quickly he grasps the playbook. Not saying book smarts is everything when it comes to playing the NFL, but he seems to way ahead of the usual rookie learning curve for wideouts.

Is Golden Tate still listed as the starter? I presume will line up in the slot a lot; at least he did in the preseason.

Hard to get excited about a rookie wideout who is catching balls from Tarvaris, but this kid is intriguing. Def worth a stash if you have the room.

 
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