Defense by committee (1 Viewer)

[shuke]

I drafted Miami late in all my leagues. They've been about average. I'm looking to exploit matchups from here on out.

I think the offenses you want to target right now are Oakland, Tampa, Arizona, Tennessee and Miami. Depending on your league's rules, you could probably throw Cleveland and SF in there too. Surprisingly, Houston has been holding their own.

Week 5

KC @ Ari

NE vs. Mia

SF vs. Oak

NO vs TB

Ind vs. Ten

Car vs. Cle

Oak @ SF

It's quite possible that KC, NE, SF, and Oak are available in most leagues.

Who do you guys like this week? Any thoughts on the next couple weeks?

 

[The Swarm]

I think it goes without saying that NO is probably not available in most leagues. If they are available, you should have already scooped them up.

If KC is available, they're the Defense I would target out of that group. Ari, Sea, Stl, Mia, Oak, Cle, Bal, and Oak are all coming up with tough games sprinkled in.

 

[Stealthycat]

New England at home vs Miami might be gold

 

[TheAbeFroman]

I had the choice of taking NO or NE this week against TB and MIA...I went with NE at home vs. MIA. Couple of reasons: TB is coming of a bye week and has had plenty of time to come up with ways to run their Offense against NO(even though Gradowski at QB is tempting)...also TB has played TUFF DEF in their first 3 games whereas MIA just finished playing TEN and HOU, last and dead last DEF, the past two weeks and still stunk the joints up. CPEP has been sacked 21 times in 4 games...that's just sad. NE D/ST vs. MIA!

 

[2112]

I'm actually liking the Denver defense at home vs. Baltimore.

should low scoring on both sides, Denver is always tough at home on MNF, and Baltimore is due for a stumble. Broncos have only given up and average of 10 ppg, against decent offenses like STL, KC, NE.

Compared to Chicago's stud defense which is not available for most of us, I like the Broncos.

CHI def - allowing 8 ppg, and no offensive tds

DEN def - 10 ppg, and only 1 td

 

[Legion of Doom]

I like the Raiders for the next few weeks,you get SF(week5) and Arizona(week7)

 

[videoguy505]

Miami always plays New England tough. I might even start the Fins this week vs. the Pats.

 

[urbanhack]

Picking up KC for this week.

 

[richn]

I'm actually liking the Denver defense at home vs. Baltimore.

should low scoring on both sides, Denver is always tough at home on MNF, and Baltimore is due for a stumble. Broncos have only given up and average of 10 ppg, against decent offenses like STL, KC, NE.

Compared to Chicago's stud defense which is not available for most of us, I like the Broncos.

CHI def - allowing 8 ppg, and no offensive tds

DEN def - 10 ppg, and only 1 td

That's exactly who I picked up a few days ago to use this week. They also have oakland next week.

 

[The Commish]

I'm actually liking the Denver defense at home vs. Baltimore.

should low scoring on both sides, Denver is always tough at home on MNF, and Baltimore is due for a stumble. Broncos have only given up and average of 10 ppg, against decent offenses like STL, KC, NE.

Compared to Chicago's stud defense which is not available for most of us, I like the Broncos.

CHI def - allowing 8 ppg, and no offensive tds

DEN def - 10 ppg, and only 1 td

That's exactly who I picked up a few days ago to use this week. They also have oakland next week.

This is who I am after and if I don't get them, I am going after KC.

 

[Lauryn]

I'm actually liking the Denver defense at home vs. Baltimore.

should low scoring on both sides, Denver is always tough at home on MNF, and Baltimore is due for a stumble. Broncos have only given up and average of 10 ppg, against decent offenses like STL, KC, NE.

Compared to Chicago's stud defense which is not available for most of us, I like the Broncos.

CHI def - allowing 8 ppg, and no offensive tds

DEN def - 10 ppg, and only 1 td

That's exactly who I picked up a few days ago to use this week. They also have oakland next week.

This is who I am after and if I don't get them, I am going after KC.

denver does nothing fantasy-worthy thus far... they will be stingy and hold opponents down in ppg, but other than that, nada. 4 sacks, 2 TO, 0 TD in 3 games... pass although i would play them against oakland.

 

[BigTex]

I dropped Stl and picked up NO first thing this morning.

 

[Lauryn]

I drafted Miami late in all my leagues. They've been about average. I'm looking to exploit matchups from here on out.

I think the offenses you want to target right now are Oakland, Tampa, Arizona, Tennessee and Miami. Depending on your league's rules, you could probably throw Cleveland and SF in there too. Surprisingly, Houston has been holding their own.

Week 5

KC @ Ari

NE vs. Mia

SF vs. Oak

NO vs TB

Ind vs. Ten

Car vs. Cle

Oak @ SF

It's quite possible that KC, NE, SF, and Oak are available in most leagues.

Who do you guys like this week? Any thoughts on the next couple weeks?

i think minnesota is a possibility against detroit as well, if you don't get penalized for points or yardage. lions are scoring but they're still kinda sloppy with the ball.

 

[L5UT1ger]

Pats and Jets are a nasty combo for the rest of the year with the exception of weeks 9 and 10... they get miami four times between them, plus other juicy matchups. Check it out.

 

[ImTheScientist]

The Jags have a nice up coming schedule

 

[Legion of Doom]

The Jags have a nice up coming schedule

I seriously doubt they are on any WW

 

[Ned]

i'm looking at anyone who's playing oakland from here on out...

 

[Nemesis]

Drafted CAR def........don't know whether to stay with them again vs CLE or finally bite the bullet and cut them.

Haven't seen SF and their def at all this year........Any insight from someone?

 

[BoulderBob]

You've got to love the Saints at home versus a rookie QB(Gradkowski) making his first(or second?) NFL start. I believe the Saints are available in 75% of Fanball leagues. Probably not a good bet to hold the TB offense to ten points or less, but the picks/sacks/fumbles should be abundant.

 

[AcousticNut]

I'm looking to drop St. Louis this week and have my eye on KC, Denver, and NYJ, as all 3 look like they have favorable schedules coming up. We get charged for add/drops, so simply playing matchups each week isn't an option in my league.

I'm going to try to run some #'s tonight and will let everyone know what I came up with.... of course it will be specific to my league, but may give people a good starting point.

 

[Lauryn]

Drafted CAR def........don't know whether to stay with them again vs CLE or finally bite the bullet and cut them.

i'd stick with them...frye is good for a few bonehead decisions per game.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

I think KC against the rookie is a great match up.

In fact, Matt is going to make rookie mistakes; sure he is NFL ready but the fact he is a rookie starting his first NFL game against a defense who has been good so far means trouble for Matt.

Also, Arizona has not been able to run the ball efficiently at all so they will have to throw more then they would like to with a rookie QB starting his first game.

Arizona is no Pit or SD where they can run and get first downs to move the chains and not put as much pressure on young QB's like was the case with Ben and with Rivers this year.

Matt's first action so far this year in very limited time was 5-8 for 49 yards which is not bad, but he did thrown 1 interception and fumbled once in that limited work.

I am using the defense by committee approach as well in my main money league and will be looking to snag KC for this week.

 

[Texican]

NO, NE, KC, DEN, NYJ are all available in my league. I am probably going with KC this week and we'll see after that.

 

[bonesman]

I like KC this week too... but i'm also considering Indy (have to roster 2 D/STs in my leauge)

both facing rookie QBs... but i like KCs turnover and kick return potential a bit more

 

[videoguy505]

IIRC, the first game of a rookie QB is like the first week for a new baseball player or the first month of a rookie pitcher--they generally start a bit hot because there's no book on them yet, they haven't been tested in all situations and there's not enough film to study on them. I seem to recall a few fresh QBs playing well for a game or two before opposing Ds figured out what looks they couldn't handle.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

IIRC, the first game of a rookie QB is like the first week for a new baseball player or the first month of a rookie pitcher--they generally start a bit hot because there's no book on them yet, they haven't been tested in all situations and there's not enough film to study on them. I seem to recall a few fresh QBs playing well for a game or two before opposing Ds figured out what looks they couldn't handle.

unless you have stats to back this thoery up i find it very hard to believe.

 

[videoguy505]

IIRC, the first game of a rookie QB is like the first week for a new baseball player or the first month of a rookie pitcher--they generally start a bit hot because there's no book on them yet, they haven't been tested in all situations and there's not enough film to study on them. I seem to recall a few fresh QBs playing well for a game or two before opposing Ds figured out what looks they couldn't handle.

unless you have stats to back this thoery up i find it very hard to believe.

Just anecdotal, I don't even know how to begin finding stats. But I do remember when some backup QBs take over after not starting the season as the QB, they do well for a game or two before they peter out. Kelly Holcomb, Josh McCown, Billy Volek, Matt Schaub, all were serviceable QBs for a handful of games when they started, but none became permanent starters. There are plenty of busts, of course, Vince Young and Andrew Walter so far this year. I remember the concept from Moneyball, actually, talking about new hitters in MLB who the opposing team doesn't know where to pitch to them. Until they play a week and see sliders, curveballs, and fastballs low and in, they can be pretty good hitters because they'll see a higher percentage of pitches in their zone. Once the zone is figured out, the percentage goes down and so does their average. Anyone who remembers the hoopla around Shane Spencer of the Yankees a few years back knows what I'm talking about.Anyone know how I can figure out the stats for a non-week 1 starting QB in their first 1-3 games of a season once they do get the reigns?

 

[paz1]

 

[rascal]

KC, NE, and Den are all taken in my league.

Don't want Miami against the Pats.

I have the choice of Saints against the Bucs, Vikings against the Lions, or Seattle on bye

Think I'll with the Saints.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

IIRC, the first game of a rookie QB is like the first week for a new baseball player or the first month of a rookie pitcher--they generally start a bit hot because there's no book on them yet, they haven't been tested in all situations and there's not enough film to study on them. I seem to recall a few fresh QBs playing well for a game or two before opposing Ds figured out what looks they couldn't handle.

unless you have stats to back this thoery up i find it very hard to believe.

Just anecdotal, I don't even know how to begin finding stats. But I do remember when some backup QBs take over after not starting the season as the QB, they do well for a game or two before they peter out. Kelly Holcomb, Josh McCown, Billy Volek, Matt Schaub, all were serviceable QBs for a handful of games when they started, but none became permanent starters. There are plenty of busts, of course, Vince Young and Andrew Walter so far this year. I remember the concept from Moneyball, actually, talking about new hitters in MLB who the opposing team doesn't know where to pitch to them. Until they play a week and see sliders, curveballs, and fastballs low and in, they can be pretty good hitters because they'll see a higher percentage of pitches in their zone. Once the zone is figured out, the percentage goes down and so does their average. Anyone who remembers the hoopla around Shane Spencer of the Yankees a few years back knows what I'm talking about.Anyone know how I can figure out the stats for a non-week 1 starting QB in their first 1-3 games of a season once they do get the reigns?

Your theory is better suited for MLB where it is more one on one situational with the pitcher and the catcher. However, in football I don't think it applies. Also, some of the situations you were referring to were guys who had been around for a couple of years where they were practicing in the NFL against NFL defenses for a couple of years before they ever started. Matt has only seen 4 games from the sideline so far.

 

[lapdawg]

I'd have to go with either NO or KC this week. Not only do they have the rookies, but Arizona and TB are the two worst rushing offenses in the NFL to date. Recipe for disaster!

 

[bonesman]

That dude from Harvard from the Rams (Ryan Fitzpatrick is his name i think) lit it up in his first few moments as a pro last year... not too good after that intitial bit of playing time though

Anyone know how I can figure out the stats for a non-week 1 starting QB in their first 1-3 games of a season once they do get the reigns?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/you'll have to think of the scenarios/players yourself... but all the stats (including game by game) are on that link

 

[Sopranos]

I picked up and played KC last week..They were gold. Their pass D has been The best in the NFL..120 yards a game and 0 tds. None. Im thinking i may sit Boldin this week.. BTW im playing KC over TB untill i have a reason not to.

 

[videoguy505]

That dude from Harvard from the Rams (Ryan Fitzpatrick is his name i think) lit it up in his first few moments as a pro last year... not too good after that intitial bit of playing time though

Thanks, I couldn't remember his name but he's another one. 2 good games, I picked him up for my squad and sure enough that's when he hit the wall.

 

[Kyoto Burger]

Would you guys keep the Bills or drop for a Def by committee?

 

[Lauryn]

IIRC, the first game of a rookie QB is like the first week for a new baseball player or the first month of a rookie pitcher--they generally start a bit hot because there's no book on them yet, they haven't been tested in all situations and there's not enough film to study on them. I seem to recall a few fresh QBs playing well for a game or two before opposing Ds figured out what looks they couldn't handle.

marc bulger threw for 3 TD and ran for 1 in his debut no picks either

 

[NatronIsMean]

Pats and Jets are a nasty combo for the rest of the year with the exception of weeks 9 and 10... they get miami four times between them, plus other juicy matchups. Check it out.

Agree, and those two teams ARE on most people's waivers.

 

[thecardiackid]

Pats and Jets are a nasty combo for the rest of the year with the exception of weeks 9 and 10... they get miami four times between them, plus other juicy matchups. Check it out.

Agree, and those two teams ARE on most people's waivers.

Just dropped MIA and grabbed NYJ. 14 team league, so not much on the WW. We only get points for TO's and D/ST scores so I don't care if they suck vs. the run. Jets have a nice schedule (after JAX) and I'm not burning 2 roster spots on D's. 7th in turnovers and they've got a guy who can score returning kicks (see last week).Rest of the way (bold = good matchup IMO)

Oct 8 @Jacksonville

Oct 15 Miami

Oct 22 Detroit

Oct 29 @Cleveland

Week 9 BYE

Nov 12 @New England

Nov 19 Chicago

Nov 26 Houston

Dec 3 @Green Bay

Dec 10 Buffalo

Dec 17 @Minnesota

Dec 25 @Miami

Dec 31 Oakland

 

[Native]

Sneaky (gutsy) play for those that in deeper leagues that dont like their current options - Giants DEF at home vs Redskins.

Last time these teams played, the Giants shutout the Skins 36-0. Sure, the Giants Defense has played poorly this year, but look who they played - IND, @PHI, @SEA. What did you expect?

IMO the Giants are much better then theyve shown, both on offense and defense. A home game coming off a bye week is the perfect opportunity to set things straight. Strahan and Usi have combined for exactly one sack this year - considering the competition they faced, I have to think their inneffectiveness is more of a anamoly than a trend. Moreover, Brunell and the Skins still underwhelm me - despite their big win last week. Sure, Santana Moss is good for a few huge games every year. Thats said, I dont think he can pull it off two weeks in a row - not on the road against a defense that will scheme to stop him. And when Moss is held in check, the Skins offense is vanilla at best.

 

[toxic]

Drafted CAR def........don't know whether to stay with them again vs CLE or finally bite the bullet and cut them.

Same boat here. I dropped CAR and am now playing Def by Committee with DEN and KC. Here are their combined opponents for the rest of the season (good matchups in bold):5: KC @ ARI

6: DEN hosts OAK

7: DEN @ CLE

8: KC hosts SEA

9: KC @ STL (or DEN @ PIT)

10: DEN @ OAK (or KC @ MIA)

11: KC hosts OAK

12: KC hosts DEN

13: KC @ CLE

14: KC hosts BAL

15: DEN @ ARI

16: KC @ OAK

 

[L5UT1ger]

Seattle has actually been a decent team for your defense to play against...They have been giving up the 8th highest amount of points per game to team D/ST this year according to my league's scoring. St. Louis and Giants D (Indy and Philly otherwise though) scored more against them than anyone else. Bears and Cards were close to their highest as well.

 

[babehound37]

IIRC, the first game of a rookie QB is like the first week for a new baseball player or the first month of a rookie pitcher--they generally start a bit hot because there's no book on them yet, they haven't been tested in all situations and there's not enough film to study on them. I seem to recall a few fresh QBs playing well for a game or two before opposing Ds figured out what looks they couldn't handle.

I don't have any examples off the top of my head, but I think I can say with confidence that you are absolutely wrong. A QB making his first start almost always has a bad game....even the great ones.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

BTW im playing KC over TB untill i have a reason not to.

I dropped TB to the wire Mon. to pick up Buckhalter. Planning to leave them there and take KC or Jets.Probably dropping Mia in other league for one of them as well. (Have Bal in that league, so really only concerned with bye week)

 

[videoguy505]

IIRC, the first game of a rookie QB is like the first week for a new baseball player or the first month of a rookie pitcher--they generally start a bit hot because there's no book on them yet, they haven't been tested in all situations and there's not enough film to study on them. I seem to recall a few fresh QBs playing well for a game or two before opposing Ds figured out what looks they couldn't handle.

Limited sample size, but for whatever it's worth...Gradkowski: 20-31 for 225, 2 TDs, 0 INTsLeinart: 22/35 for 253, 2 TDs, 1 INTVince Young in his 2nd "start" didn't do so well, against a good D he only managed 10/21 for 63, 0 TDs, 1 INT, but, he's got more film to study since he's played more this season, and the Indy D was already pretty good. That said, the gameplan he was running was just to keep the Titans D on pace with the Colts, so only losing by 1 to Indy is an accomplishment.If you were hoping for a big fantasy day from the Saints or Chiefs against a rookie's debut, neither really did much.

 

[NatronIsMean]

This is the current late schedule for New England, which I like as a good late season D to use:

Wk Opp APA Rk11: @GB 8.75 1812: Find Another13: DET 11 2514: @MIA 12 2615: HOU 9.75 2116: @JAC 6.75 14 (probably start another)Also Denver has studly matchups all season should they be hanging around:

06: OAK  20.3  3207: @CLE 13	3008: Find another09: @PIT 10.7  2410: @OAK 20.3 3211: Find another12: @KC  8	16 (probably find another)13: SEA  12.3  2614: @ARI 12.3 2615: CIN   9.5   20 (probably find another)16: SF	 11	23

APA = Average points that Fantasy Ds score against teamRk = Rank of team against Fantasy Defense (higher number = more points given up to defenses)

 

[the spanker]

Anyone have the Vikings D? They seem to be playing solid and have the following schedule:

7 at Seahawks

8 vs Patriots

9 at 49ers

10 vs Packers

11 at Dolphins

12 vs Cardinals

13 at Bears

14 at Lions

15 vs Jets

16 at Packers

This looks favorable with the exception of weeks 7,8, and 13

 

[The Swarm]

Sneaky (gutsy) play for those that in deeper leagues that dont like their current options - Giants DEF at home vs Redskins.Last time these teams played, the Giants shutout the Skins 36-0. Sure, the Giants Defense has played poorly this year, but look who they played - IND, @PHI, @SEA. What did you expect? IMO the Giants are much better then theyve shown, both on offense and defense. A home game coming off a bye week is the perfect opportunity to set things straight. Strahan and Usi have combined for exactly one sack this year - considering the competition they faced, I have to think their inneffectiveness is more of a anamoly than a trend. Moreover, Brunell and the Skins still underwhelm me - despite their big win last week. Sure, Santana Moss is good for a few huge games every year. Thats said, I dont think he can pull it off two weeks in a row - not on the road against a defense that will scheme to stop him. And when Moss is held in check, the Skins offense is vanilla at best.

Nice call...

 

[videoguy505]

IIRC, the first game of a rookie QB is like the first week for a new baseball player or the first month of a rookie pitcher--they generally start a bit hot because there's no book on them yet, they haven't been tested in all situations and there's not enough film to study on them. I seem to recall a few fresh QBs playing well for a game or two before opposing Ds figured out what looks they couldn't handle.

Limited sample size, but for whatever it's worth...Gradkowski: 20-31 for 225, 2 TDs, 0 INTsLeinart: 22/35 for 253, 2 TDs, 1 INTVince Young in his 2nd "start" didn't do so well, against a good D he only managed 10/21 for 63, 0 TDs, 1 INT, but, he's got more film to study since he's played more this season, and the Indy D was already pretty good. That said, the gameplan he was running was just to keep the Titans D on pace with the Colts, so only losing by 1 to Indy is an accomplishment.If you were hoping for a big fantasy day from the Saints or Chiefs against a rookie's debut, neither really did much.

Still a limited sample size, but one could argue Leinart did well until the Bears D figured out how to play against him.Week "2" stats:Gradkowski: 25/44, 184 yds, 2 TDs, 1 INT. Held steady with the Bengals for a win.Leinart: 24/42, 232 yds, 2 TDs, 0 INTs. Great first half, not much in the second half.We'll see how it progresses, this may have been the early peak for Leinart this year if he's given away something about how defenses should handle him.Vince Young only completed 13 passes, for 161 yds, 1 TD, and 0 INTs.

 

[(HULK)]

:blackMFINGdot:

Going with AZ against Oak this week.

 

[shuke]

This past week went with:

League 1: Buf @ Det

League 2: Was vs Ten

League 3: Cin @ TB

Maybe this isn't working out too well.

I think Arizona (@ Oak) is the obvious play this week, but it may be difficult to get them.

Other potentials:

NE @ Buf

GB @ Mia?

Mia vs GB?

Thoughts?