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I enjoy the article and have found it helpful the past couple of years.

Chase when are you going to release it?

 
yea, and the QB article too!!! Love these.
Where?The articles are impossible to find these days. I looked through the articles tab but didn't see these. The front page articles are cluttered up with Player Spotlights instead of just having a link to all the player spotlights.
 
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They are both great articles but do not come out until mid to late Aug. I usually look at last year's articles to get a rough date of when this year's version will be released.

 
Thanks a bunch for the interest, guys. I'm glad you enjoy them.

Actually, the article was released in the FBG magazine this year. I'll forward this to Dodds/Gray and see how they want to handle it. In the mag, I mentioned that another version would be released in August (which we're now in). I'm not sure if we'll ever put the mag article on the website, or if we'll just put the updated version online.

The QBBC article has not yet been released, but rest assured, it will be an August feature as always. This year there will also be a full section on what to do in 2-QB leagues. Feel free to turn this thread into a suggestions thread for either article.

 
Thanks a bunch for the interest, guys. I'm glad you enjoy them.Actually, the article was released in the FBG magazine this year. I'll forward this to Dodds/Gray and see how they want to handle it. In the mag, I mentioned that another version would be released in August (which we're now in). I'm not sure if we'll ever put the mag article on the website, or if we'll just put the updated version online.The QBBC article has not yet been released, but rest assured, it will be an August feature as always. This year there will also be a full section on what to do in 2-QB leagues. Feel free to turn this thread into a suggestions thread for either article.
FWIW, not that interested in the mag. article for 2 reasons. One, I have the magazine. Two, I hope the online article has updated information to reflect any changes with not only the D's but the strength/weaknesses of the O's as well. Thanks for the update.
 
Thanks a bunch for the interest, guys. I'm glad you enjoy them.Actually, the article was released in the FBG magazine this year. I'll forward this to Dodds/Gray and see how they want to handle it. In the mag, I mentioned that another version would be released in August (which we're now in). I'm not sure if we'll ever put the mag article on the website, or if we'll just put the updated version online.The QBBC article has not yet been released, but rest assured, it will be an August feature as always. This year there will also be a full section on what to do in 2-QB leagues. Feel free to turn this thread into a suggestions thread for either article.
Chase, would love to see an actual matrix of combo values to print out too.List of teams on both X and Y axis and when you look at where they meet you find the combo value.It would be great for doing a quick scan of who you have vs who's available to see the best combo.Same would also be good for QB's too but unless you want to make it 3D could only be for 2 QB combo vs committee of 3.
 
Thanks a bunch for the interest, guys. I'm glad you enjoy them.

Actually, the article was released in the FBG magazine this year. I'll forward this to Dodds/Gray and see how they want to handle it. In the mag, I mentioned that another version would be released in August (which we're now in). I'm not sure if we'll ever put the mag article on the website, or if we'll just put the updated version online.

The QBBC article has not yet been released, but rest assured, it will be an August feature as always. This year there will also be a full section on what to do in 2-QB leagues. Feel free to turn this thread into a suggestions thread for either article.
Chase, would love to see an actual matrix of combo values to print out too.List of teams on both X and Y axis and when you look at where they meet you find the combo value.

It would be great for doing a quick scan of who you have vs who's available to see the best combo.

Same would also be good for QB's too but unless you want to make it 3D could only be for 2 QB combo vs committee of 3.
You mean like this at the end of last year's article?I don't think we can make it 3-D. The QB matrix gets really crazy when you're putting down 4 QBs for 2 spots. It's one of the more challenging parts to write, but I don't see any way to do that except by writing it. You could never get much value out of the data dump of 35,960 rows. I'm going to try and figure out if there's a better way to do it this year, since we were a bit rushed when Doug and I put it together in '06.

 
Thanks a bunch for the interest, guys. I'm glad you enjoy them.Actually, the article was released in the FBG magazine this year. I'll forward this to Dodds/Gray and see how they want to handle it. In the mag, I mentioned that another version would be released in August (which we're now in). I'm not sure if we'll ever put the mag article on the website, or if we'll just put the updated version online.The QBBC article has not yet been released, but rest assured, it will be an August feature as always. This year there will also be a full section on what to do in 2-QB leagues. Feel free to turn this thread into a suggestions thread for either article.
FWIW, not that interested in the mag. article for 2 reasons. One, I have the magazine. Two, I hope the online article has updated information to reflect any changes with not only the D's but the strength/weaknesses of the O's as well. Thanks for the update.
Of course, RW, the new DTBC will reflect the most current FBG projections of the offenses. :goodposting:
 
Chase Stuart said:
Lehigh98 said:
Chase Stuart said:
Thanks a bunch for the interest, guys. I'm glad you enjoy them.

Actually, the article was released in the FBG magazine this year. I'll forward this to Dodds/Gray and see how they want to handle it. In the mag, I mentioned that another version would be released in August (which we're now in). I'm not sure if we'll ever put the mag article on the website, or if we'll just put the updated version online.

The QBBC article has not yet been released, but rest assured, it will be an August feature as always. This year there will also be a full section on what to do in 2-QB leagues. Feel free to turn this thread into a suggestions thread for either article.
Chase, would love to see an actual matrix of combo values to print out too.List of teams on both X and Y axis and when you look at where they meet you find the combo value.

It would be great for doing a quick scan of who you have vs who's available to see the best combo.

Same would also be good for QB's too but unless you want to make it 3D could only be for 2 QB combo vs committee of 3.
You mean like this at the end of last year's article?I don't think we can make it 3-D. The QB matrix gets really crazy when you're putting down 4 QBs for 2 spots. It's one of the more challenging parts to write, but I don't see any way to do that except by writing it. You could never get much value out of the data dump of 35,960 rows. I'm going to try and figure out if there's a better way to do it this year, since we were a bit rushed when Doug and I put it together in '06.
PM me your email and I'll send you a crappy example I've rigged up in years past.
 
Chase Stuart said:
Lehigh98 said:
Chase Stuart said:
Thanks a bunch for the interest, guys. I'm glad you enjoy them.

Actually, the article was released in the FBG magazine this year. I'll forward this to Dodds/Gray and see how they want to handle it. In the mag, I mentioned that another version would be released in August (which we're now in). I'm not sure if we'll ever put the mag article on the website, or if we'll just put the updated version online.

The QBBC article has not yet been released, but rest assured, it will be an August feature as always. This year there will also be a full section on what to do in 2-QB leagues. Feel free to turn this thread into a suggestions thread for either article.
Chase, would love to see an actual matrix of combo values to print out too.List of teams on both X and Y axis and when you look at where they meet you find the combo value.

It would be great for doing a quick scan of who you have vs who's available to see the best combo.

Same would also be good for QB's too but unless you want to make it 3D could only be for 2 QB combo vs committee of 3.
You mean like this at the end of last year's article?I don't think we can make it 3-D. The QB matrix gets really crazy when you're putting down 4 QBs for 2 spots. It's one of the more challenging parts to write, but I don't see any way to do that except by writing it. You could never get much value out of the data dump of 35,960 rows. I'm going to try and figure out if there's a better way to do it this year, since we were a bit rushed when Doug and I put it together in '06.
PM me your email and I'll send you a crappy example I've rigged up in years past.
stuart@footballguys.com
 
Chase Stuart said:
Thanks a bunch for the interest, guys. I'm glad you enjoy them.

Actually, the article was released in the FBG magazine this year. I'll forward this to Dodds/Gray and see how they want to handle it. In the mag, I mentioned that another version would be released in August (which we're now in). I'm not sure if we'll ever put the mag article on the website, or if we'll just put the updated version online.

The QBBC article has not yet been released, but rest assured, it will be an August feature as always. This year there will also be a full section on what to do in 2-QB leagues. Feel free to turn this thread into a suggestions thread for either article.
:tinfoilhat: Youdaman, Chase. This will help greatly for my 2-QB league!
 
Chase Stuart said:
Lehigh98 said:
Chase Stuart said:
Thanks a bunch for the interest, guys. I'm glad you enjoy them.

Actually, the article was released in the FBG magazine this year. I'll forward this to Dodds/Gray and see how they want to handle it. In the mag, I mentioned that another version would be released in August (which we're now in). I'm not sure if we'll ever put the mag article on the website, or if we'll just put the updated version online.

The QBBC article has not yet been released, but rest assured, it will be an August feature as always. This year there will also be a full section on what to do in 2-QB leagues. Feel free to turn this thread into a suggestions thread for either article.
Chase, would love to see an actual matrix of combo values to print out too.List of teams on both X and Y axis and when you look at where they meet you find the combo value.

It would be great for doing a quick scan of who you have vs who's available to see the best combo.

Same would also be good for QB's too but unless you want to make it 3D could only be for 2 QB combo vs committee of 3.
You mean like this at the end of last year's article?I don't think we can make it 3-D. The QB matrix gets really crazy when you're putting down 4 QBs for 2 spots. It's one of the more challenging parts to write, but I don't see any way to do that except by writing it. You could never get much value out of the data dump of 35,960 rows. I'm going to try and figure out if there's a better way to do it this year, since we were a bit rushed when Doug and I put it together in '06.
PM me your email and I'll send you a crappy example I've rigged up in years past.
stuart@footballguys.com
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Chase Stuart said:
Lehigh98 said:
Chase Stuart said:
Thanks a bunch for the interest, guys. I'm glad you enjoy them.

Actually, the article was released in the FBG magazine this year. I'll forward this to Dodds/Gray and see how they want to handle it. In the mag, I mentioned that another version would be released in August (which we're now in). I'm not sure if we'll ever put the mag article on the website, or if we'll just put the updated version online.

The QBBC article has not yet been released, but rest assured, it will be an August feature as always. This year there will also be a full section on what to do in 2-QB leagues. Feel free to turn this thread into a suggestions thread for either article.
Chase, would love to see an actual matrix of combo values to print out too.List of teams on both X and Y axis and when you look at where they meet you find the combo value.

It would be great for doing a quick scan of who you have vs who's available to see the best combo.

Same would also be good for QB's too but unless you want to make it 3D could only be for 2 QB combo vs committee of 3.
You mean like this at the end of last year's article?I don't think we can make it 3-D. The QB matrix gets really crazy when you're putting down 4 QBs for 2 spots. It's one of the more challenging parts to write, but I don't see any way to do that except by writing it. You could never get much value out of the data dump of 35,960 rows. I'm going to try and figure out if there's a better way to do it this year, since we were a bit rushed when Doug and I put it together in '06.
PM me your email and I'll send you a crappy example I've rigged up in years past.
stuart@footballguys.com
Sent
Gotcha. I think there's something useful in the way that's presented, but I also don't want to kill Clayton (well not unintentionally, at least). I'll do my best to remember to put the same information presented in both tables, assuming it's not too much of a formatting problem for Clayton.Thanks.

 
Question for Chase (or anyone else who wants to chime in): The teams you listed for the DEF by committee both have top 7 ADP figures for defenses according to Antsports' "serious drafts only" figures. I know you had to put that article together a number of months ago before most ADP figures were out (and the article itself probably helped to inflate their ADP values), but don't ADP figures that high make those teams a lot less appealing for the committee option? It's not that I don't think the two teams you listed wouldn't be great together with their combined schedules - they would be an excellent combination - but you would need to pull the trigger relatively early on two high-profile defense picks in order to make sure you land both. From a value perspective, wouldn't it make more sense to burn just one pick a couple rounds earlier and land a defense like Baltimore, Chicago, or New England?

 
Chase, I look foward every year to your "defense by committee" as well. To me, your article in particular is one of the most helpful - I have no interest in picking a D in the 5th-8th to get a Balt / Chi, but I still want the points a good D can provide - something you've helped me out with the last few years. :goodposting:

Hoping it gets posted soon!

 
If anyone is looking for a really cheap late-round combo can I suggest Detroit-KC?

This leaves a schedule of:

1 Oak

2 Min

3 Min

4 Chi

5 Wash/Jax

6 Cin

7 Oak

8 Chi

9 GB

10 Ari/Den

11 NYG

12 Oak

13 Min

14 Dal/Den

15 Ten

16 KC/Det

Weeks 6, 10 and 14 might be tough, but any schedule which involves playing Minnesota and Oakland three times and Chicago twice has to leave plenty of scope for big points from interceptions, and you can get these two defenses really late.

 
Chase,

My draft starts on Sunday and just wondering if either the DTBC or QBBC articles will be posted by then. I actually look forward to the matrix that you put out so I can do my own selections. Sorry if I sound anxious but I am and have been chomping at the bit to see what you come up with this year! :thumbup:

Sometime I would love to know the steps you take to come up with your matrix as that is the part that I have thought about and would love to do myself.

Thanks!

 
Chase,My draft starts on Sunday and just wondering if either the DTBC or QBBC articles will be posted by then. I actually look forward to the matrix that you put out so I can do my own selections. Sorry if I sound anxious but I am and have been chomping at the bit to see what you come up with this year! :thumbdown: Sometime I would love to know the steps you take to come up with your matrix as that is the part that I have thought about and would love to do myself.Thanks!
Fair enough, bodozer. Shoot me an e-mail, and I'll get back to you. The article is almost done, but probably won't hit the site until the middle of next week. I wouldn't want you to have to draft blind. Just please put in the subject "****DTBC/bodozer" and I'll get back to you ASAP.Knock 'em dead,Chase
 
bodozer said:
Chase,My draft starts on Sunday and just wondering if either the DTBC or QBBC articles will be posted by then. I actually look forward to the matrix that you put out so I can do my own selections. Sorry if I sound anxious but I am and have been chomping at the bit to see what you come up with this year! :popcorn: Sometime I would love to know the steps you take to come up with your matrix as that is the part that I have thought about and would love to do myself.Thanks!
Not to steal Chase's thunder (always liked DTBC article) but I can add a little insight here.Chase does a lot of analysis on this and ranks each schedule, offense and game and then does a lot of math (or maybe Doug helps him). Whichever combination of teams winds up with the best score he puts at or near the top. I think he also adjusts for obviously bad combinations for drafting purposes (like Chicago and Baltimore and anyone else).
 
As far as a 'do it yourself' approach to DTBC, consider the following.

1. Take the list of the 32 defenses.

2. Scratch off the first 5 or so. They're going to get drafted too early.

3. Take a look at Teams 6-15 or so. Have a schedule handy. Circle the ones with both an average to bad division AND also at least 3-4 week non-divisional opponents. I always like to start by defining the 2-3 weakest divisions (such as the NFC South, NFC East or AFC West - both contain 2 teams that are likely to be bad) and then see what teams might have both of them on their schedule.

4. After you have a couple of candidates, look at their bye week and also their bad weeks on the schedule, like when SD or INDY or STL is on the schedule. Now you're looking for a D to fill that gap.

It may take a few tries at this, but you might find a good combo. I liked Philly and Tenn a few months ago, but now I question Tenn's big play abilities.

 
Chase,My draft starts on Sunday and just wondering if either the DTBC or QBBC articles will be posted by then. I actually look forward to the matrix that you put out so I can do my own selections. Sorry if I sound anxious but I am and have been chomping at the bit to see what you come up with this year! :moneybag: Sometime I would love to know the steps you take to come up with your matrix as that is the part that I have thought about and would love to do myself.Thanks!
Not to steal Chase's thunder (always liked DTBC article) but I can add a little insight here.Chase does a lot of analysis on this and ranks each schedule, offense and game and then does a lot of math (or maybe Doug helps him). Whichever combination of teams winds up with the best score he puts at or near the top. I think he also adjusts for obviously bad combinations for drafting purposes (like Chicago and Baltimore and anyone else).
Jeff,That is the exact reason I wanted to know the steps he uses because I am a programmer and numbers guy and wanted to see what I could do in regards to using my skills to do this better.Thanks for the input.Bodozer
 
We are getting into the thick of drafting season so this should be out soon. Is there any timeline for TDBC and QBBC article releases?

 
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We are getting into the thick of drafting season so this should be out soon. Is there any timeline for TDBC and QBBC article releases?
DTBC will be on the website any day now -- I'm keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow. QBBC is a bit behind that.
 
We are getting into the thick of drafting season so this should be out soon. Is there any timeline for TDBC and QBBC article releases?
DTBC will be on the website any day now -- I'm keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow. QBBC is a bit behind that.
For the dozens of you reading Goose Chase every week, I've been tallying DTBC and QBBC each week this year. DTBC is now the #1 D/ST in fantasy football, averaging 15.42 FP/G. Only New England at 14.46 is even close. Everyone that's drafted Minnesota and Tennessee and followed the advice on when to start them has been very happy, I'm sure. :hifive:QBBC has been a bit less successful, but it still was top 10 before the bomb Jeff Garcia dropped this week. I haven't calculated its new ranking yet.
 
Chase Stuart said:
We are getting into the thick of drafting season so this should be out soon. Is there any timeline for TDBC and QBBC article releases?
DTBC will be on the website any day now -- I'm keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow. QBBC is a bit behind that.
For the dozens of you reading Goose Chase every week, I've been tallying DTBC and QBBC each week this year. DTBC is now the #1 D/ST in fantasy football, averaging 15.42 FP/G. Only New England at 14.46 is even close. Everyone that's drafted Minnesota and Tennessee and followed the advice on when to start them has been very happy, I'm sure. :thumbup:QBBC has been a bit less successful, but it still was top 10 before the bomb Jeff Garcia dropped this week. I haven't calculated its new ranking yet.
MN and TN were gold early, but much more unpredictable lately. Frankly, I'm through with DTBC this year. Thought MN was a great matchup at home against the Raiders - nope (of course they tore it up this past week). Thought the Cards, coming off the Bengal victory, were absolute gold vs. the 49rs at home. Got me -3 points, thank you very much. I won't play matchups the rest of the year. Even games against the Niners aren't sure bets. I'm going with my best defense - period. That would be Tampa Bay. MN, TN and AZ have all been cut in the last 2 weeks.
 
Chase Stuart said:
We are getting into the thick of drafting season so this should be out soon. Is there any timeline for TDBC and QBBC article releases?
DTBC will be on the website any day now -- I'm keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow. QBBC is a bit behind that.
For the dozens of you reading Goose Chase every week, I've been tallying DTBC and QBBC each week this year. DTBC is now the #1 D/ST in fantasy football, averaging 15.42 FP/G. Only New England at 14.46 is even close. Everyone that's drafted Minnesota and Tennessee and followed the advice on when to start them has been very happy, I'm sure. :DQBBC has been a bit less successful, but it still was top 10 before the bomb Jeff Garcia dropped this week. I haven't calculated its new ranking yet.
MN and TN were gold early, but much more unpredictable lately. Frankly, I'm through with DTBC this year. Thought MN was a great matchup at home against the Raiders - nope (of course they tore it up this past week). Thought the Cards, coming off the Bengal victory, were absolute gold vs. the 49rs at home. Got me -3 points, thank you very much. I won't play matchups the rest of the year. Even games against the Niners aren't sure bets. I'm going with my best defense - period. That would be Tampa Bay. MN, TN and AZ have all been cut in the last 2 weeks.
MN and TN have been better than any single fantasy defense, even accounting for the bye week. I'm not sure what your problem with DTBC is -- and obviously MN had a huge game on Sunday.
 
I've used Minn and Tenn all year (except 1 week) and have scored 30% more points than I would have with Minnesota alone. I don't know what your criteria is for choosing but I look at the team they're playing and whether or not they are at home. It's worked great all year. I didn't realize you had a column about that. I'll definitely start reading it.

 
Chase Stuart said:
We are getting into the thick of drafting season so this should be out soon. Is there any timeline for TDBC and QBBC article releases?
DTBC will be on the website any day now -- I'm keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow. QBBC is a bit behind that.
For the dozens of you reading Goose Chase every week, I've been tallying DTBC and QBBC each week this year. DTBC is now the #1 D/ST in fantasy football, averaging 15.42 FP/G. Only New England at 14.46 is even close. Everyone that's drafted Minnesota and Tennessee and followed the advice on when to start them has been very happy, I'm sure. :moneybag:QBBC has been a bit less successful, but it still was top 10 before the bomb Jeff Garcia dropped this week. I haven't calculated its new ranking yet.
MN and TN were gold early, but much more unpredictable lately. Frankly, I'm through with DTBC this year. Thought MN was a great matchup at home against the Raiders - nope (of course they tore it up this past week). Thought the Cards, coming off the Bengal victory, were absolute gold vs. the 49rs at home. Got me -3 points, thank you very much. I won't play matchups the rest of the year. Even games against the Niners aren't sure bets. I'm going with my best defense - period. That would be Tampa Bay. MN, TN and AZ have all been cut in the last 2 weeks.
MN and TN have been better than any single fantasy defense, even accounting for the bye week. I'm not sure what your problem with DTBC is -- and obviously MN had a huge game on Sunday.
Don't get me wrong - it was a great call Chase. For most of the season these teams were gold, and points scored were off the charts. That being said, I would venture to say over the last 3 weeks the combined points of MN and TN was weak, even including MN's big game. Haynesworth was injured hurting TN, and MN, until meeting Eli, seemed to forget how to pass rush or make plays in the secondary. Matter of fact, I thought the game against the Raiders was one of the worst performances I've ever seen by a secondary. That, coupled with recent DTBC "locks" like Arizona this week, make me a little hesitant to rely on this strategy. Just saying that even great strategies need adjustment as the season progresses.
 
Big :rolleyes: To Chase for nailing the DTBC this year.
:rolleyes: :thumbup: Chase's QBBC and DTBC are the two FBG articles I most eagerly anticipate each preseason. The Vikings/Titans combo this year has worked out better than any in recent memory. Great work!

That said, I'm tempted to drop the Titans and stick with the Vikings the rest of the way. This is the last week of player moves, before the postseason roster freeze, and it would be nice to turn the roster spot over to another position. Are there any weeks left in which the Titans' matchup is significantly better than the Vikings'? Maybe Week 16.



Week 13 14 15 16

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MIN DET SFO CHI WAS

TEN HOU SDG KC NYJ

 
Big :football: To Chase for nailing the DTBC this year.
Absolutely Jeff. This is the first year that I've tried DTBC and couldn't be more thrilled with the results. Combined I have the #1 DST in the league and didn't have to 'waste' a pick on one of the Big-Name D's. Definitely worth the price of admission.
 

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