Defense Streaming - Week 2 (1 Viewer)

[Insein]

Never hurts to get a head start. Obviously week 1 will help dictate which offenses and defenses might be better or worse but here's who I see so far.

New Orleans at Cleveland - NO is a legit defense that's only owned in 20% of leagues on most sites. This may be the last chance to grab them.

Tampa Bay vs St Louis - Tampa is a solid play for week 1 streaming due to the Cam be injury. Keeping them for week 2 at home against Shaun Hill and the Rams offense might give you two weeks for the price of one.

 

[Gvindy]

Good call on New Orleans. They've made some really good upgrades and after week one they have a pretty good stretch.

 

[Freelove]

For those looking deeper, the Jets are at Green Bay, making the Pack look good to me.

Saints and Bucs are both owned in 5/5 of my 12-man leagues, but I may be an outlier.

 

[dgr81]

picked up arizona for week 2.

 

[Freelove]

I also think a lot of the pre-preseason hype surrounding the BUF D has probably subsided, and they may be more widely available than they used to be. Losing Kiko hurt, as did coming to the realization that EJ Manuel is still EJ Manuel, and thus the offense isn't exactly going to help the D out. If they aren't available yet, they may be after facing the Bears in CHI week one.

Anyway, they get the Phins at home week two. And if they're out there, that's not a bad stream, either.

 

[Insein]

Now that we have some data, we can see a few possibly awful offenses. Oakland and St Louis seem to be leading the way. Oakland plays Houston next week so they are most likely already owned.

St Louis plays Tampa who didn't look too bad against Carolina. Possible pick up there.

A sneaky pick up could be Jaguars against Wash. That first half in Philly had a ton of pressure on the QB. I don't know if Washington bounces back like Philly did if they get down.

 

[Freelove]

Still liking GB as the best of a pretty sad looking lot for likely-available week two pickups. Can't imagine there was a mad rush to grab them after Seattle, but I'm a believer in the GB offense to bounce back big now that they play a mortal defense, and when the Jets of the world are forced to play catchup, there's profit to be had.

I'd still be okay with either end of BUF/MIA too, though we clearly won't be seeing the mad rush to drop BUF I thought we might see if CHI had lit them up.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Right now, looking at New Orleans. I don't think they're anywhere as bad as they showed Week 1 & dont think Cleveland will be able to run all over them like they did Pitt. It's possible that Tate and/or Cameron will also be out.

 

[Braktastic]

I'm not sure they're a streaming option, but I dumped the Pittsburgh Steelers who killed me Week 1 for the Houston Texans who are playing the Oakland Raiders.

 

[Insein]

I'm not sure they're a streaming option, but I dumped the Pittsburgh Steelers who killed me Week 1 for the Houston Texans who are playing the Oakland Raiders.

Yea if they're available, definitely grab Houston all day. This matchup will be a bonanza.

 

[Flying Elvis]

Thoughts on the Vikings DST? I haven't read up or watched any of that game but they will face the Pats terrible Oline and should be able to play ball control with AP. Was their big total simply a matter of an anemic Rams O, or is there something more there?

 

[elbowrm]

Sticking with HOU

 

[ahartig]

Sticking with HOU

Plus, they face the Giants in week 3 and Buffalo in week 4.

J.J. Watt vs Eli..... yes please

 

[Flying Elvis]

Houston was drafted in every league I'm in, but if they're available they're a great add.

Looking at the Dolphins . . . there are only 3 games on their entire schedule I'd want no part of this season. That's a long projection with plenty of chance for change but they have the Bills - Chiefs - Raiders as their next 3 before hitting Green Bay.

 

[VikingFrog]

No need to start its own thread, but I imagine there will be some rostered defenses dropped in some leagues due to poor performance week 1.

Who are some of these defenses that performed poorly but could bounce back with a juicy matchup week 2?

New England versus Minnesota (I'm a homer so I think the Vikings looked legit, but they were playing a hurt rams team). I will likely be dropping New England to upgrade to Houston as they are available.

Denver D didn't look amazing although I doubt they get dropped, but you never know with teams chasing points. They go up against what looked like an inept kc offense.

Kansas City is scary to roster with no feel of an offense to keep the game balanced. They could be dropped , especially with Denver next week.

 

[Ace zero1]

gonna try and get houston off the waivers

 

[Restricted]

I would also be considering Jax. The did hold during the first half against a potent Philly team and only gave when their offense stalled. They looked really good in the preseason and are coached by the former Seattle D coach. Going against a Washington team that looked not so good.

 

[Gvindy]

TEN v DAL at home looks pretty good now. Or MIA at BUF for deeper leagues. Leaning MIA right now.

 

[Keith1]

No need to start its own thread, but I imagine there will be some rostered defenses dropped in some leagues due to poor performance week 1.

Who are some of these defenses that performed poorly but could bounce back with a juicy matchup week 2?

New England versus Minnesota (I'm a homer so I think the Vikings looked legit, but they were playing a hurt rams team). I will likely be dropping New England to upgrade to Houston as they are available.

Denver D didn't look amazing although I doubt they get dropped, but you never know with teams chasing points. They go up against what looked like an inept kc offense.

Kansas City is scary to roster with no feel of an offense to keep the game balanced. They could be dropped , especially with Denver next week.

Wondering about the Rams D. Invested a "higher-than-I-should-have" pick in them. They got me 0 against the Vikes. The offense starting a 3rd string QB can only make things worse. Plus they have a bye in week 4 so I would need to make the move soon in any event. Houston D is available in my league. Thinking about cutting bait with the Rams.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Whoever is facing NYG.

 

[Insein]

Whoever is facing NYG.

Arizona next week. If they are available, go get them.

 

[Flying Elvis]

DST playing against the following teams are best for week 2 and possibly more.

Tier 1:

NYG -- (AZ)

STL -- (TB)

WAS -- (JAX)

KC -- (DEN)

Tier 2:

TB -- (STL)

DAL -- (TEN)

The week 2 matchup is in ( ). Tough to like either DST in the Bucs vs. Rams game, though it could be a low total game making both good starts. I'd rather go Jax or Az, though I'd guess AZ is not on the wire.

Miami looks like a decent play vs. the Bills but the phins 3 starting LBs with injury and Ellerbe is already on IR. Misi & Wheeler are unknowns for now. That's a difficult trigger to pull with an entire level of the D down.

 

[Gvindy]

DST playing against the following teams are best for week 2 and possibly more.

Tier 1:

NYG -- (AZ)

STL -- (TB)

WAS -- (JAX)

KC -- (DEN)

Tier 2:

TB -- (STL)

DAL -- (TEN)

The week 2 matchup is in ( ). Tough to like either DST in the Bucs vs. Rams game, though it could be a low total game making both good starts. I'd rather go Jax or Az, though I'd guess AZ is not on the wire.

Miami looks like a decent play vs. the Bills but the phins 3 starting LBs with injury and Ellerbe is already on IR. Misi & Wheeler are unknowns for now. That's a difficult trigger to pull with an entire level of the D down.

Great info on MIA. JAX (Seattle east) is shaping up as a really nice play especially in leagues where you get points for TFL. They had 11 TFL last week. Griffin looks lost in the new offense.

 

[LOCO]

Packers at home vs. Jets. Geno is good for at least 1 INT.

 

[Phenomena]

DST playing against the following teams are best for week 2 and possibly more.

Tier 1:

NYG -- (AZ)

STL -- (TB)

WAS -- (JAX)

KC -- (DEN)

Tier 2:

TB -- (STL)

DAL -- (TEN)

The week 2 matchup is in ( ). Tough to like either DST in the Bucs vs. Rams game, though it could be a low total game making both good starts. I'd rather go Jax or Az, though I'd guess AZ is not on the wire.

Miami looks like a decent play vs. the Bills but the phins 3 starting LBs with injury and Ellerbe is already on IR. Misi & Wheeler are unknowns for now. That's a difficult trigger to pull with an entire level of the D down.

Great info on MIA. JAX (Seattle east) is shaping up as a really nice play especially in leagues where you get points for TFL. They had 11 TFL last week. Griffin looks lost in the new offense.

I agree... JAX is my sleeper DEF this week. I'm not sure if I'll get to use them since I went heavy on Houston to start the year (who didn't see that performance coming? They have WAS/OAK/NYG to start the year).

Titans could be a good pick... their lineman (both sides of the ball) have look fantastic. I think they have a good shot to control the game against Dallas. They had something like 38 minute ToP week 1. I don't care who is on an offense, they aren't scoring much if they have the ball only 1/3rd of the time.

 

[ebsteelers]

Raiders at home?

in DFS (contrain) tournament plays

what about the Chargers at home against Seattle? remember Seattle "struggled on the road" or

Cleveland against the Saints. Brees just doesnt play as well on the road, and if I heard correctly dating back to last year Brees in his last 5 games has thrown 9 tds and 7 ints.

or maybe Packers also.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Cleveland against the Saints. Brees just doesnt play as well on the road, and if I heard correctly dating back to last year Brees in his last 5 games has thrown 9 tds and 7 ints.

Browns are an intriguing choice. There is quite a large eye popping home/road split differential with Brees:

2013 Home: (8 games) 27 TD 3 INT

2013 Road: (8 games) 12 TD 9 INT

Road: If you include the 2013-14 season playoffs (2 games) + 2014 opener to the above: 15 TD 12 INT.

Even with the above lackluster road performances, I'd rather bank on him and NO defense vs. Brian Hoyer (and possibly w/o Tate and/or Cameron)

 

[ebsteelers]

Cleveland against the Saints. Brees just doesnt play as well on the road, and if I heard correctly dating back to last year Brees in his last 5 games has thrown 9 tds and 7 ints.

Browns are an intriguing choice. There is quite a large eye popping home/road split differential with Brees:

2013 Home: (8 games) 27 TD 3 INT

2013 Road: (8 games) 12 TD 9 INT

Road: If you include the 2013-14 season playoffs (2 games) + 2014 opener to the above: 15 TD 12 INT.

Even with the above lackluster road performances, I'd rather bank on him and NO defense vs. Brian Hoyer (and possibly w/o Tate and/or Cameron)

agreed I am not sure if I would it in season long but in a DFS large tournament where you need large upside/contrain players. Browns will be owned in less than 2% I think.

money saved, a few sacks/turnovers and it looks like a good player.

nice post with the splits

 

[Insein]

Yes there is a discrepancy but that was last year. The Saints just put up 34 on the road and Brees threw for 333 1-1. The Saints offense put up 472 yards. Conversely the Browns defense just let up 490 to a Pitt offense that isn't that good.

Don't get cute. There are better options.

 

[ebsteelers]

Yes there is a discrepancy but that was last year. The Saints just put up 34 on the road and Brees threw for 333 1-1. The Saints offense put up 472 yards. Conversely the Browns defense just let up 490 to a Pitt offense that isn't that good.

Don't get cute. There are better options.

Browns defense is better than the Falcons though.

I think the Steelers Offense is better than giving credit for.

Like I said I probably wont be using them in season long, but in big dfs tournaments its a low cost/high risk/ high reward play

 

[Insein]

Yes there is a discrepancy but that was last year. The Saints just put up 34 on the road and Brees threw for 333 1-1. The Saints offense put up 472 yards. Conversely the Browns defense just let up 490 to a Pitt offense that isn't that good.

Don't get cute. There are better options.

Browns defense is better than the Falcons though.

I think the Steelers Offense is better than giving credit for.

Like I said I probably wont be using them in season long, but in big dfs tournaments its a low cost/high risk/ high reward play

I don't think there's that high a reward.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Cleveland against the Saints. Brees just doesnt play as well on the road, and if I heard correctly dating back to last year Brees in his last 5 games has thrown 9 tds and 7 ints.

Browns are an intriguing choice. There is quite a large eye popping home/road split differential with Brees:

2013 Home: (8 games) 27 TD 3 INT

2013 Road: (8 games) 12 TD 9 INT

Road: If you include the 2013-14 season playoffs (2 games) + 2014 opener to the above: 15 TD 12 INT.

Even with the above lackluster road performances, I'd rather bank on him and NO defense vs. Brian Hoyer (and possibly w/o Tate and/or Cameron)

The Saints defense

Yes there is a discrepancy but that was last year. The Saints just put up 34 on the road and Brees threw for 333 1-1. The Saints offense put up 472 yards. Conversely the Browns defense just let up 490 to a Pitt offense that isn't that good.

Don't get cute. There are better options.

Yep.

The Saints defense is currently ranked dead last 32nd in the league.

The defense ranked 31st?

Cleveland.

I agree that there are better options right now.

 

[Insein]

Just noticed that Houston was available in both my leagues.

With Oak, NYG and Buff coming up, you have to do everything you can to get thwm. If they're available.

 

[tjnc09]

This week looks like a streaming pile of crap. I'm leaning Pittsburgh or Baltimore on Thursday night. A blood bath on national TV, this is the game these teams want to win all year.

 

[Gvindy]

Picked up Tennessee and Arizona today. Good matchup this week, weeks three and four are not so great, but a great stretch run after that

 

[UKColt]

I've got Pittsburgh, Miami and Jacksonville rostered and can't make a decision.

 

[Pauli Walnuts]

Any thoughts on the better D for the entire year between Denver and Carolina?

 

[Gvindy]

I've got Pittsburgh, Miami and Jacksonville rostered and can't make a decision.

I think Jacksonville is probably the best defense out of all those and They don't have a bad matchup against Washington. I've heard Miami has two or three linebackers that are dinged up now and that scares me off that match up. Pittsburgh being Thursday night though could always be a really good play as offenses don't tend to do well. I'd probably pick Pittsburgh. If you're league counts TFL like mine, I would lean Jacksonville. Gus Bradley is trying to build rebuild his Seattle defense there and they're looking really good.

 

[tombonneau]

I picked up Detroit. Tough to tell if they are really good or Giants are really bad or somewhere in between, but minus GB this isn't that bad of a stretch:

2 @Car - - - - - 3 GB - - - - - 4 @NYJ - - - - - 5 Buf - - - - - 6 @Min

 

[th3f00l]

Houston looks like the best DST to have this week, they were not available in my league

I took Green Bay in Lambeau vs Jets. The Jets aren't the Seahawks. Geno is good for a couple Ints, and will take couple sacks as well. My only worry is that Green Bay will score too quickly, and that Starks isn't the kind of guy you can slow the pace of the game down with. Even in that case, I still think that Green Bay can get the turnovers and sacks to make up for any garbage Jets scoring and yardage.

I am worried about taking NO, on the road against CLE that just had a good outing against PIT. Even with the absence in of key offensive weapons, they were able to move the ball consistently. I don't expect them to do quite as well against NO, but a lot was to be said for the performance of the offensive line.

CLE against NO just sounds like a bad decision. I dropped the Browns for the Packers, not a fan of their matchup against Baltimore either, the secondary had no answer for Brown and Wheaton, so Brees then Flacco then BYE is easily droppable.

Washington looks like a good pickup, playing the Jags by the numbers from last year. This years Jaguars put the ball on the ground and allowed for a defensive TD, but threw 0 INT and I rate the Eagles secondary better than the Skins. Washington's defense did not play horribly against the Texans, but also had 0 Int and only 1 sack.

 

[tombonneau]

Houston looks like the best DST to have this week, they were not available in my league

I took Green Bay in Lambeau vs Jets. The Jets aren't the Seahawks. Geno is good for a couple Ints, and will take couple sacks as well. My only worry is that Green Bay will score too quickly, and that Starks isn't the kind of guy you can slow the pace of the game down with. Even in that case, I still think that Green Bay can get the turnovers and sacks to make up for any garbage Jets scoring and yardage.

I am worried about taking NO, on the road against CLE that just had a good outing against PIT. Even with the absence in of key offensive weapons, they were able to move the ball consistently. I don't expect them to do quite as well against NO, but a lot was to be said for the performance of the offensive line.

CLE against NO just sounds like a bad decision. I dropped the Browns for the Packers, not a fan of their matchup against Baltimore either, the secondary had no answer for Brown and Wheaton, so Brees then Flacco then BYE is easily droppable.

Washington looks like a good pickup, playing the Jags by the numbers from last year. This years Jaguars put the ball on the ground and allowed for a defensive TD, but threw 0 INT and I rate the Eagles secondary better than the Skins. Washington's defense did not play horribly against the Texans, but also had 0 Int and only 1 sack.

Packers seem like a pretty good play @ home vs Genny & The Jets. Might have to consider that one.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Is St Louis a viable play in Tampa this week? Obviously a bad week one but Tampa don't look too great on offense either. Issue with Rams defense appeared to be partly due to their offense not being able to sustain drives leading to greater TOP for Vikings.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Have the choice between GB vs. NYJ, TEN vs. DAL and JAC vs. WAS. I'm leaning towards GB. It helps that NYJ are 10 points dogs (Geno playing catch-up likely a recipe for success) plus from what I'm reading there's a decent chance of rain.

 

[Darryl Talley]

I went with NO this week because of you guys. MIA was the only other option.

I figure they have the best personel.

 

[Flying Elvis]

Any thoughts on the better D for the entire year between Denver and Carolina?

Carolina has a lousy stretch in the middle but nice finish. Denver will most likely be more consistent all year b/c nobody is stopping that offense, so the DST will have lots of clear-cut passing situations as teams play from behind against them. I like Denver to be top 3 when all is said and done. Too many good pieces that will have consistently favorable opportunities.

I went with NO this week because of you guys. MIA was the only other option.

I figure they have the best personel.

Sure, prepping to blame us if it goes wrong.

 

[cstu]

I am worried about taking NO, on the road against CLE that just had a good outing against PIT. Even with the absence in of key offensive weapons, they were able to move the ball consistently. I don't expect them to do quite as well against NO, but a lot was to be said for the performance of the offensive line.

No Gordon and possibly no Cameron. The Browns aren't going to run on the Saints the way they did the Steelers.

 

[cstu]

Yep.

The Saints defense is currently ranked dead last 32nd in the league.

The defense ranked 31st?

Cleveland.

I agree that there are better options right now.

Against the Falcons with one of the best passing games in the league

 

[TeHDruiD]

I am worried about taking NO, on the road against CLE that just had a good outing against PIT. Even with the absence in of key offensive weapons, they were able to move the ball consistently. I don't expect them to do quite as well against NO, but a lot was to be said for the performance of the offensive line.

No Gordon and possibly no Cameron. The Browns aren't going to run on the Saints the way they did the Steelers.

The Saints had one of the worst run defenses in the league last year (4.6 yards per rush) and they just let up 4.9 yards per rush to the Falcons who I feel have one of the worst OL's in the NFL. With Clevelands zone blocking scheme, their run blocking looks identical to their play action blocking, it's hard to decipher if it's run/pass. I think you'd be a fool to start the Saints defense. I see the Browns going for 150+ yards on the ground with some very easy crossing route yardage off of play action. Bree's is good in domes, not so much outside. I actually think the Browns control the TOP and win this game. I wouldn't touch either of these defenses this week. I also read that Cameron is good to go against the Saints

Obviously this isn't anything like the Falcons offense, but that run game is legit and they do just enough play action (that looks exactly like the run blocking) to open up easy opportunities in the short/intermediate passing game

 

[thaniz]

I'm in a 16 team dynasty league. Today I checked to seedefenses that are on the waiver wire (I got the Chargers). Turns out EVERY defense is rostered. Now that's just insane.

 

[shoecrew22]

Who you guys like the best this week?


TB DST vs stl

NO DST vs cle

JAC DST vs was