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Deji Karim - 6th Round pick by Jax (1 Viewer)

When I first saw his name I was like "Who the heck is that?". He must be some fullback. But I wanted to make sure as I seem compelled to investigate anyone that gets drafted with a RB next to their name. I have to admit, the more I looked the more I liked.

Here's the first article I found:

Eyes wide open

SIU's Karim expects to go undrafted, but he's hoping to hear his name called

Former Southern Illinois running back Deji Karim is prepared to watch hours and hours of NFL draft coverage on ESPN over the next two days.

Deji Karim's performance at Northwestern's pro day on March 11 opened eyes of NFL teams.

He'll have his girlfriend, her family and his family to keep him company in Oklahoma City, but he doesn't plan on needing much distraction as he awaits his name being called.

"Oh, yeah, trust me, this has been my dream since I was little, I'm ready to sit there and watch the whole thing," Karim said.

That approach might seem like torture for some as there's a possibility that Karim may not be selected in any of the seven rounds. ESPN's NFL draft analysts have everyone passing on Karim, but his agent has projected him anywhere between the third and sixth rounds.

Karim, himself, is planning to go undrafted.

"I'm setting myself up to expect the worst," said Karim, who is 5-8, 209 pounds. "You never know what's going to happen. I hope to hear my name called. If that happens, it's going to make me the happiest person in the world. I don't know what to expect."

It was easier to gauge Karim's stock when his senior season ended in December. While Karim did have a memorable year with the Salukis as he rushed for a Football Championship Subdivision-best 1,694 yards, accumulated a school-record 2,339 all-purpose yards and scored 20 touchdowns, he wasn't on many draft radars.

Karim changed that in one day.

On March 11 at Northwestern's pro day, Karim produced numbers that stood out. His vertical jump (43 inches), 20-yard shuttle run (4.05 seconds) and 3-cone run (6.67 seconds) would have ranked him first at the NFL draft combine. He also ran a 4.37 in the 40-yard dash, which would have been second-best at the combine. He had a broad jump of 10-3 (third best) and completed 19 reps in the bench press (sixth best).

The numbers surprised most, including Karim's agent, Scott Smith of X-A-M Sports & Entertainment.

"I was expecting good numbers, but I try to temper my expectations in this business," Smith said. "I was expecting him to do well. He certainly met my expectations and probably exceeded them in areas. Those are rare numbers across the board."

Smith's phone began ringing soon after. Five teams (Chargers, Colts, Eagles, Lions, Jaguars) flew Karim out for visits, and Smith has heard from every other team.

It's because of all those inquiries that Smith doesn't anticipate Karim going undrafted.

"Unless you're a lock to go in the top 100, I think anything is possible, but I think it's unlikely for Deji [to go undrafted] at this point," Smith said. "There's just been too much interest in him from multiple teams. I don't think a team will roll the dice and try to sign him as an undrafted free agent. I don't see him getting past the sixth round."

ESPN NFL draft analyst Steve Muench disagrees. He believes Karim will end up with a team, but it won't be through the draft.

"Karim doesn't have the power to develop into a 'primary' ball carrier at the NFL level, and he's a little too straight-line -- lacks ideal elusiveness -- for a smaller back prospect," Muench said. "In addition, he missed the 2008 season with a knee injury. He projects as a priority rookie free agent because he's got good speed and some upside as a situational back, third-down back."

Karim just hopes for the opportunity to prove otherwise.

"I've been proving it over and over," Karim said. "I'd be looking forward to showing off my skills in the NFL at the highest level. From junior college to Division I-AA, I've been proving myself. I want to get to the highest level of football.

"[being drafted] would mean the world to me. I've been watching the draft since I was a little kid. I don't know what I'm going to do if I hear my name called."

Scott Powers covers high school and college sports for ESPNChicago.com and can be reached at spowers@espnchicago.com.

What I like here is a kid that has had to prove himself every step of the way. He seems to have skills and tools to make it to the next level and the work ethic and determination to stick.

Next I found his CBSSportsline Scouting Page

DEJI KARIM, RBHeight: 5-09 | Weight: 209 | College: Southern Illinois

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Player Ratings

Position Overall Pos. Rank Proj. Round

RB 209 15 6-7

Complete 2010 Ratings

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04/26/2010 - A closer look at the Jaguars' picks: Round 6/180 -- Deji Karim, RB/KR, 5-8, 209, Southern Illinois, Jaguars like his versatility of a third-down back and a kick returner. Likely to play on other special teams as well. He has the talent to move into the No. 2 spot on the depth chart at running back.

Full Deji Karim News Wire

Player Analysis

Overview

Karim was just starting to come into his own when a knee injury cost him his entire junior season in 2008. However, he bounced back very well, exploding onto the college football scene in 2009 by earning All-American and first-team All-Gateway honors after rushing for 1,694 yards and 18 touchdowns while also gaining 212 yards and scoring once on 17 receptions. He also finished third in the Walter Payton Award voting (the FCS Heisman) behind Appalachian State QB Armanti Edwards and Elon WR Terrell Hudgins.

After Karim rushed for more than 2,000 yards as a high school senior, he became a productive player at Northeast Oklahoma A&M, rushing for 1,972 yards and 26 scores in his two seasons there. As a reserve in 2007, he had 386 yards and led the team with eight touchdowns on only 76 carries.

Undeterred by not receiving a Combine invite, Karim turned in an excellent week at the Texas vs. the Nation All-Star Challenge, then wowed scouts at his pro day with a 4.4-second 40-yard dash, 43-inch vertical and 6.95 3-cone drill. His speed and low center of gravity will make it difficult for even NFL defenders to get big hits on him -- and could lead to a long career.

Analysis

Inside: Low center of gravity, good vision and quick feet to wiggle through creases. Presses the line hard to burst through holes. Solid build to bounce off tacklers who don't wrap. Runs with lean inside and falls forward. Secure with the ball inside. Could be more patient behind the fullback when in two-back sets.

Outside: Excellent straight-line speed, can breakaway from FCS defenders once in the open field. Uses vision and speed to be a solid kick returner. Good balance, can make a quick juke to freeze and blow by defender when running straight-on. Holds ball high and tight almost every carry. Gets the corner but only average change of direction to cut on the edge, best on North-South runs.

Breaking tackles: Bowling ball running style (low pad level and thick legs) makes it difficult to stop his momentum without a clean shot. Arm tacklers slide right by him. Uses his hands to shed oncoming tacklers and owns a strong stiff-arm. Keeps his eyes downfield and legs churning after first contact. Susceptible to cut tackles.

Blocking: Stands up to blitzers inside, giving good effort, but having short arms and not much of an anchor limits his ability to sustain against pro defenders. Willing cut blocker, though NFL defensive ends will leap over him.

Receiving: Solid hands, catches away from his frame when facing the quarterback. Practiced at screens and throws into the flat, needs coaching on footwork on other routes. Sells block on screen and finds passing lane, though lack of size makes it difficult to find him. Goes up to get high throws, adjust to low throws. Good vision after the catch. Eludes defenders with stop-start move in the open field, along with strong hands to push by would-be tacklers.

Intangibles: Soft-spoken young man who battled through a knee injury to get into position to play at the next level. Does not back down from challenges, on or off the field.

2009 Season

Karim rebounded from a knee injury that cost him the 2008 season to have a record-breaking year. He was the 2009 Missouri Valley Football Conference Offensive Player of the Year and is one of three finalists for the Walter Payton Award, given annually to the most outstanding player in the FCS. Karim's 2,339 all-purpose yards this year broke the school record and his 1,694 rushing yards are the third most by a Saluki in single-season history. He scored 18 touchdowns rushing the ball and 20 total on the year, both of which rank second in the FCS. His 1,694 rushing yards are the most in the Football Championship Subdivision this season and Karim also ranked third in all-purpose yardage.

2008 Season

Redshirted … Missed the entire season with a knee injury.

2007 Season

SIU's third-leading rusher, who carried the ball 76 times for 386 yards … Led the team with eight rushing touchdowns … Averaged 5.1 yards per carry … His first career start was at Southern Utah, where he ran for 40 yards and two touchdowns on a season-high 12 carries … Piled up a season-high 101 yards and scored two touchdowns on 11 rushing attempts at Indiana State … Had nine carries consisting of 10 or more yards.

Agility Tests

Combine: Did not receive and invitation.

Pro day: 4.4-second 40-yard dash, 43-inch vertical and 6.95 3-cone drill.

Junior College

Transfer from Northeast Oklahoma A&M Junior College … Rushed for 978 yards and 10 touchdowns as a sophomore and earned honorable mention All-SWJCFC (Southwest Junior College Football Conference) … Rushed for 994 yards and 15 touchdowns as a freshman and was named honorable mention All-America … Also earned second-team all-conference honors in the SWJCFC.

High School

Ran for more than 2,000 yards and 28 TDs as a senior … Named all-state.

Personal

Born November 18, 1986 … .Son of Lanre and Tai Karim … Majoring in recreation.

After reading this I'm getting really interested. He's a small thick guy in the vain of some other very successful RB's like MJD, Ray Rice, Darren Sproles. He pocesses the raw athleticism I want to see in a NFL Caliber back. His straight line speed his highly impressive. The scouting Report is backed up by his pro-day numbers. Now I want to see the guy. Here's what I found.

Deji Karim (RB, Southern Illinois) - Pro Day Workout 3/11/10

Did you see his legs? They are huge. Add that body to growing list of reasons that I like him. Its easy to like a guy just by looking at his numbers but actually seeing the dude do the drills is another thing. Some people have the it factor and after seeing Deji do his pro-day workout on film I can only see that he's a nice little back here.

Game Film. I need to find some pronto. I could only find a couple pieces of game film on the guy.

Here is an interview with some clips of him running. Its a good interview and shows he's committed but the clips are at the 2:17 mark if you just want jump straight there.

Here is some other game from the Western Illinois Univerity vs Southern Illinois Univerity Football 2009. Check out the following minutes marks.

0:50 - Nice long break showing straight line speed.

1:52 - Almost takes a kickoff return back

3:03 - Takes a screen pass and displays some sick moves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej8pypXXA7k...feature=related

Summary

Looks like the kid has gone some strong measurables and has backed it up on the field. Jax flew him in for a workout and then committed to the guy by drafting him. This is a huge boon for his future chances. This guys was not supposed to be drafted he made believers out of NFL scouts and executives enough to 1) Keep him off other teams by drafting him and 2) give him a shot to make the team.

He seems to have a similar skill set as MJD. So Jacksonville has already been successfully with a guy of this stature. Behind MJD there is a not a lot of competition for the roster spot. Rarshard Jennnings was almost the last pick in the 2009 Draft but did not set the world on fire last year. Deji has a great chance to stick. Will he ever be a feature back? I'm not sure about that. The odds are staked against him. But they have been stacked against him pretty much throughout his whole football career and he's done nothing but prove himself.

 
Good post.

The one problem I have about the guy is that there is so little game film of him assessable to the random fan. Those camera angles of the highlights you linked are at ground level, making it difficult to see what's going on.

Though everything there is to read about the kid is favourable to him, and the fact that he was the 9th RB selected in the draft suggests he should be able to stick on a team at least. I think he's worth a late round pick in the deep leagues, but I likely wouldn't select him otherwise. At the very least, he's someone to keep an eye on.

 
Behind MJD there is a not a lot of competition for the roster spot. Rarshard Jennnings was almost the last pick in the 2009 Draft but did not set the world on fire last year.
I enjoyed the read a lot, good post. Not quite sure I agree with the Jennings comment. In *very* limited time last year I thought he looked decent. At least there wasn't any reason to think he'd failed as the backup (yet).
 
Behind MJD there is a not a lot of competition for the roster spot. Rarshard Jennnings was almost the last pick in the 2009 Draft but did not set the world on fire last year.
I enjoyed the read a lot, good post. Not quite sure I agree with the Jennings comment. In *very* limited time last year I thought he looked decent. At least there wasn't any reason to think he'd failed as the backup (yet).
"Not setting the world on fire" does not mean I think that Jennings is a bust, just that he hasn't shown much in the way of competition this far. He certainly could with a year under his belt but there is room for both on the roster.
 
Jennings did average 5.2 last year, although 39 carries don't tell you much.

My understanding is that Karim was primarily brought in to be the kick returner and maybe take some 3rd down snaps. Of course MJD was drafted to be a 3rd down back and return kicks and the team just lucked out that he turned out to be so much more.

 
as a mjd owner i made sure to pick this guy up in my rookie draft on the off chance he becomes a cuff... he seems to have a similar build and style to mjd which is intriguing. him being on the same team as mjd learning from a guy that uses his size to his advantage like that is definitely a plus as well. i don't have huge expectations but i think he's in a decent situation and could definitely be backing up mjd in the future if jennings doesn't pan out. :lmao:

 
Very nice work. I think this guy was taken late in both of my rookie drafts and I admit I knew nothing about him.

 
as a mjd owner i made sure to pick this guy up in my rookie draft on the off chance he becomes a cuff... he seems to have a similar build and style to mjd which is intriguing. him being on the same team as mjd learning from a guy that uses his size to his advantage like that is definitely a plus as well. i don't have huge expectations but i think he's in a decent situation and could definitely be backing up mjd in the future if jennings doesn't pan out. :lmao:
I've been doing the same as well in deep leagues where I own MJD -- in fact, in the 6th in the two Zealots leagues I have him. For me, not as much having seen him on film or anything, but moreso the situation...
 
Ended up with Deji in a startup as well as a rookie draft I just completed. He seems to be undervalued when you consider he has around a 50/50 shot to be a RB2 in a rushing prolific offense. The talent is certainly there. I'd expect a RBBC with both Jennings and Deji heavily involved if something were to happen to MJD. Seems they both have different characteristics- Jennings the power guy and Deji with his wheels. However, if Deji proves to be effective between the tackles he could render Jennings useless.

Either way, he's great value where he seems to be going. At least in my drafts...3.08 & 21.06

 
I grabbed him in 3 leagues at 3.10, 4.05 and 4.11. I wonder if I could of got in the 4th league at 5.04 if this thread wasn't in the pool.

Oh well, at least Skelton made it to me in all my leagues.

 
Ended up with Deji in a startup as well as a rookie draft I just completed. He seems to be undervalued when you consider he has around a 50/50 shot to be a RB2 in a rushing prolific offense. The talent is certainly there. I'd expect a RBBC with both Jennings and Deji heavily involved if something were to happen to MJD. Seems they both have different characteristics- Jennings the power guy and Deji with his wheels. However, if Deji proves to be effective between the tackles he could render Jennings useless.Either way, he's great value where he seems to be going. At least in my drafts...3.08 & 21.06
If MJD were to go down Jennings would show the world just how good he is. Deji can bring him water when they're on defense.
 
Ended up with Deji in a startup as well as a rookie draft I just completed. He seems to be undervalued when you consider he has around a 50/50 shot to be a RB2 in a rushing prolific offense. The talent is certainly there. I'd expect a RBBC with both Jennings and Deji heavily involved if something were to happen to MJD. Seems they both have different characteristics- Jennings the power guy and Deji with his wheels. However, if Deji proves to be effective between the tackles he could render Jennings useless.Either way, he's great value where he seems to be going. At least in my drafts...3.08 & 21.06
If MJD were to go down Jennings would show the world just how good he is. Deji can bring him water when they're on defense.
So I guess you own Jennings.What pick did you draft him with?Or who/what did you trade for him?Curious as to his value (I own him too).
 
Ended up with Deji in a startup as well as a rookie draft I just completed. He seems to be undervalued when you consider he has around a 50/50 shot to be a RB2 in a rushing prolific offense. The talent is certainly there. I'd expect a RBBC with both Jennings and Deji heavily involved if something were to happen to MJD. Seems they both have different characteristics- Jennings the power guy and Deji with his wheels. However, if Deji proves to be effective between the tackles he could render Jennings useless.

Either way, he's great value where he seems to be going. At least in my drafts...3.08 & 21.06
If MJD were to go down Jennings would show the world just how good he is. Deji can bring him water when they're on defense.
So I guess you own Jennings.

What pick did you draft him with?

Or who/what did you trade for him?

Curious as to his value (I own him too).
I drafted him in a couple of leagues and traded for him in a couple more. In one league I drafted him as a rookie last year at position 2.10. In another I drafted him 2.12. I traded for him in one league where I gave Martellus Bennett and the 1.11 for Jennings and the 2.02. I gave a lot for him in the league I own MJD. I traded Kolb (before McNabb trade) for him in that league. I know I could have gotten a lot more for Kolb by waiting, but I'm satisfied that in my mind I have his backup, and a good one at that. Last year when I was studying players for the draft I remember feeling very good about Jennings' skills in every way. Some scouts were calling him a 1st rd talent with a well rounded skill set. I happen to think he was a third round talent. He fell to the 7th round because of the competiton he played against while at Liberty wasn't very good. I won't go into that here because it's easily retrieved on the internet, but let's just say I like him a lot. I highly doubt 6th round talent of Deji Karim would beat out Jennings should Jones-Drew go down. "Jaguars GM Gene Smith thinks sixth-round pick RB Deji Karim can be a third-down specialist and kickoff returner.", but don't look for him to really put MJD on the bench on third downs.
 
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Just spoke with Deji for about an hour on a layover. Really nice guy and knows he won't be given anything in the league. Talked a lot about how he wasn't even given anything it SIU and didn't get his shot until his senior year (240/1694/18 of his career 316/2080/26 came in his senior season). He was fairly surprised his name was called, and thought he'd be fighting for a spot somewhere right now instead of having a team in May.

We spoke about Jones-Drew and he conceded what most of us expect - no one is taking the midget off the field. He hopes to make his impact in the return game and be ready if something happens to MJD - he noted that Jennings would likely be the early-down guy, but that he'd like to compete to carve out the third down role.

I asked him what he wanted to improve on most this season, and he said not bouncing everything to the outside. From watching what footage I could find on him - that was my major knock, and why I pretty much avoided him in my drafts. The second facet of his game he wants to improve on was pass protection, where he admits his game is lacking.

Interestingly enough, Bill Polian was also on our flight. Don't these guys have their own jets?

 
It's just OTA's, but this looks intriguing.

Deji Karim

Karim provides highlight moment

Rookie flashes in OTA practice

Thursday, May 20, 2010

By Vic Ketchman, jaguars.com senior editor

It was one of those moments when you know you had just seen something special. Those along the sideline stood in silence, heads turning to give each other that look, as if to say, “Wow!”

Deji Karim, the little running back from Southern Illinois the Jaguars drafted in the sixth round to return kickoffs and offer depth at running back, caught a short pass in the left flat, stuck his left foot in the ground and made a move back to the inside that was so sudden and so explosive that it left linebacker Justin Durant grabbing at air.

It was a moment those who witnessed it will remember for a long time, if Karim becomes the difference-making running back that singular move on the Jaguars practice field would suggest.

“He can mismatch a linebacker, a safety, a third corner,” General Manager Gene Smith said. “He’s smart. He graduated from college. You can do things with a guy like that.”

In Karim, Offensive Coordinator Dirk Koetter may have a home-run hitting back that can take some of the big-play burden off Maurice Jones-Drew. Thursday, day three of OTAs, Karim flashed the speed and quickness that made him a lights-out running back and kickoff-returner last season at Southern Illinois.

“I think Deji is extremely explosive and quick. He’s already demonstrated that he has another gear. He’s going to be a nice addition to those other backs,” Koetter said.

Karim lasted into the sixth round largely because he missed his junior season with a knee injury that didn’t heal. It caused him to go into his senior season as an unknown. Smith found Karim at the Texas vs. The Nation postseason all-star game. It’s the same all-star game at which Smith found defensive tackle Terrance Knighton last year.

“As I get used to these plays, I’ll be able to do more. That’s what I do. I’m out there trying to make a play, provide a spark,” Karim said.

A high school star in Oklahoma City, bad grades caused him to begin his college career on the junior college level.

“I got there from not applying myself to the grades. I fixed that when I got to junior college. The grades stopped me from going to a big college: TCU, Oklahoma, Kansas, Kansas State. Once they saw I didn’t have the grades, they scratched me off the list,” Karim said. “I wasn’t going to let the grades stop me this time.”

At Southern Illinois, he graduated before his senior season began, which allowed him to focus all of his energy last season on football. These days, all of his energy is being focused on the Jaguars playbook.

“Once I get a grip on it, you’ll see more of what I can do,” he said.

He provided an impressive demonstration on Thursday.

 
Just spoke with Deji for about an hour on a layover. Really nice guy and knows he won't be given anything in the league. Talked a lot about how he wasn't even given anything it SIU and didn't get his shot until his senior year (240/1694/18 of his career 316/2080/26 came in his senior season). He was fairly surprised his name was called, and thought he'd be fighting for a spot somewhere right now instead of having a team in May. We spoke about Jones-Drew and he conceded what most of us expect - no one is taking the midget off the field. He hopes to make his impact in the return game and be ready if something happens to MJD - he noted that Jennings would likely be the early-down guy, but that he'd like to compete to carve out the third down role.I asked him what he wanted to improve on most this season, and he said not bouncing everything to the outside. From watching what footage I could find on him - that was my major knock, and why I pretty much avoided him in my drafts. The second facet of his game he wants to improve on was pass protection, where he admits his game is lacking. Interestingly enough, Bill Polian was also on our flight. Don't these guys have their own jets?
:mellow:
 
I have MJD and took Jennings last years rookie draft. I wanted Deji as well, but missed him by a couple picks. I am not too worried about it at this point.

 
I see a possible AFC version of Carolina. 2 RB's sharing carries. Jennings isn't in this guy's league. Wish he would have gone to somewhere like Seattle. As awful as these guys are at passing the ball, maybe they will soon realize it and copy the Panthers 'O'.

 
I see a possible AFC version of Carolina. 2 RB's sharing carries. Jennings isn't in this guy's league. Wish he would have gone to somewhere like Seattle. As awful as these guys are at passing the ball, maybe they will soon realize it and copy the Panthers 'O'.
I was hoping he would have gone to a lot of other teams as well.

That being said, the kid has the talent and attitude to be successful n the NFL.

 
I see a possible AFC version of Carolina. 2 RB's sharing carries. Jennings isn't in this guy's league. Wish he would have gone to somewhere like Seattle. As awful as these guys are at passing the ball, maybe they will soon realize it and copy the Panthers 'O'.
Jennings was considered 1st rd talent by some scouts but fell because of the level of competition he played against. I doubt Karim had that distinction. Why did Karim fall to the 6th Rd?
 
Jennings was picked in the 7th round (pick 7.41, no less).

I'd say they're in the same neighborhood.

 
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I see a possible AFC version of Carolina. 2 RB's sharing carries. Jennings isn't in this guy's league. Wish he would have gone to somewhere like Seattle. As awful as these guys are at passing the ball, maybe they will soon realize it and copy the Panthers 'O'.
Jennings was considered 1st rd talent by some scouts but fell because of the level of competition he played against. I doubt Karim had that distinction. Why did Karim fall to the 6th Rd?
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If the ONLY thing that scouts are worried about a player is the level of competition he played against, than that player will go in round 2 at the latest. Look at Brian Westbrook for example. He played against a low level of competition in college, he had size issues, he had injury history and his 40 time at the combine was mediocre and he still ended up going in the 3rd round. I guarantee you scouts saw bigger issues with Rashad Jennings than simply he played against a low level of competition in college.

 
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There's no doubt in my mind that Jennings is the guy to have as MJD's backup.
Clear case of tunnel vision.
:thumbdown: not sure why they acquired karim if jennings is "the guy"
They needed a KR so they spent a 6th-round pick.
i've also read they're considering him a 3rd down guy - sproles-esque. if mjd were to go down i would think they'd be sharing the carries, though it's probably too early to say.
 
There's no doubt in my mind that Jennings is the guy to have as MJD's backup.
Clear case of tunnel vision.
:lmao: not sure why they acquired karim if jennings is "the guy"
They needed a KR so they spent a 6th-round pick.
So they spent a 6th round pick on a kick-return specialist who has just 14 career kick returns? If they wanted a return specialist one would think they would select someone who has returned more than just 14 kicks in his career and you would think they would want someone who has experience returning both kicks and punts as Karim has zero punt returns in his career.
 
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There's no doubt in my mind that Jennings is the guy to have as MJD's backup.
Clear case of tunnel vision.
:thumbdown: not sure why they acquired karim if jennings is "the guy"
They needed a KR so they spent a 6th-round pick.
So they spent a 6th round pick on a kick-return specialist who has just 14 career kick returns? If they wanted a return specialist one would think they would select someone who has returned more than just 14 kicks in his career and you would think they would want someone who has experience returning both kicks and punts as Karim has zero punt returns in his career.
Scotty McGee was drafted for punt returns.
 
They needed a KR so they spent a 6th-round pick.
So they spent a 6th round pick on a kick-return specialist who has just 14 career kick returns? If they wanted a return specialist one would think they would select someone who has returned more than just 14 kicks in his career and you would think they would want someone who has experience returning both kicks and punts as Karim has zero punt returns in his career.
Scotty McGee was drafted for punt returns.
So you actually believe the Jaguars spent a 6th round pick to draft a kick-return only specialist who has 14 career kick returns?
 
Jack Del Rio mentioned he was impressed with Jennings pre-draft.

Not only was there a knock against Jennings for the talent level he played with, but he does have a pretty much upright running style.

Still, why not take a flier on the kid in the 6th round? They did similar with Mike Thomas, Dillard, Zach Miller last year......Tiquan Underwood as well

 
Moonlight_Graham said:
FavreCo said:
I see a possible AFC version of Carolina. 2 RB's sharing carries. Jennings isn't in this guy's league. Wish he would have gone to somewhere like Seattle. As awful as these guys are at passing the ball, maybe they will soon realize it and copy the Panthers 'O'.
Jennings was considered 1st rd talent by some scouts but fell because of the level of competition he played against. I doubt Karim had that distinction. Why did Karim fall to the 6th Rd?
Why did JaMarcus Russell get drafted in the 1st round? Because NFL scouts miss as much as Dave Kingman on a fastball down the middle of the plate.
 
It is possible that they are both good backs. I could see Jennings being like Derrick Ward and Karim being like Ahmad Bradshaw. (I might add that Ward and Bradshaw were both 7th round picks.)

 
I don't think that the Jags drafted him specifically to be a returner. I think they scouted him, liked what they saw, then drafted him because he is a terrific athlete and football player. Now they will see if he what it takes to be an NFL Football Player.

They will train him by teaching him their system and give him chances to succeed. They are not going to start giving him 20 touches a game right off the bat. So they will start him out where most rookies start out.

They will give him some opportunities to touch the ball in special teams, and if he does well, they may give him some touches on offense, and if he gains their trust and excels they will continue to give him more and more touches. Its up to Deji to put the work in and maximize his talents and give the coaching staff reasons to put him in there.

I don't think it is smart to try and compare him to Rashard Jennings. They are different backs and either one has the opportunity to put themselves in position to receive touches. To blindly ignore either one because you think one or the other is the sure fire backup to MJD is doing your own fantasy analysis a disservice.

 
Moonlight_Graham said:
FavreCo said:
I see a possible AFC version of Carolina. 2 RB's sharing carries. Jennings isn't in this guy's league. Wish he would have gone to somewhere like Seattle. As awful as these guys are at passing the ball, maybe they will soon realize it and copy the Panthers 'O'.
Jennings was considered 1st rd talent by some scouts but fell because of the level of competition he played against. I doubt Karim had that distinction. Why did Karim fall to the 6th Rd?
Why did JaMarcus Russell get drafted in the 1st round? Because NFL scouts miss as much as Dave Kingman on a fastball down the middle of the plate.
Big difference. Russell showed he sucked and Jennings shows promise. If Karim doesn't make it on special teams he's probably headed for the practice squad.
 
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I'd like to see a link where a scout says "Jennings is a 1st round talent" please. I highly doubt you can find one.

 
If MJD goes down, I think we are looking at a RBBC with both backs. I'm not sure either has the talent to succeed as a lead back in the NFL, but both are worth picking up as an MJD owner in two leagues. I prefer the league I have them both to the one where I don't have either.

 
I'd like to see a link where a scout says "Jennings is a 1st round talent" please. I highly doubt you can find one.
I'm looking for the site where I read it, I'll keep looking. All I'm finding now is where Jennings was projected either 2nd or 3rd round. I'm sure Kariim has talent, but why wasn't he invited to the combine? I know that Jennings looked good in limited touches last year.
 
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If MJD goes down, I think we are looking at a RBBC with both backs. I'm not sure either has the talent to succeed as a lead back in the NFL, but both are worth picking up as an MJD owner in two leagues. I prefer the league I have them both to the one where I don't have either.
Not sure if that is the best use of roster space even in deepr leagues. Using two spots on insurance which may only yield 60-65% on the value of MJD.
 
If MJD goes down, I think we are looking at a RBBC with both backs. I'm not sure either has the talent to succeed as a lead back in the NFL, but both are worth picking up as an MJD owner in two leagues. I prefer the league I have them both to the one where I don't have either.
Not sure if that is the best use of roster space even in deepr leagues. Using two spots on insurance which may only yield 60-65% on the value of MJD.
Karim can be kept on the taxi squad so he wouldn't eat up any roster space. I currently only have him to put on the 4 available taxi squad spots in a 14 team dynasty league.
 
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If MJD goes down, I think we are looking at a RBBC with both backs. I'm not sure either has the talent to succeed as a lead back in the NFL, but both are worth picking up as an MJD owner in two leagues. I prefer the league I have them both to the one where I don't have either.
Not sure if that is the best use of roster space even in deepr leagues. Using two spots on insurance which may only yield 60-65% on the value of MJD.
"May lead to only 60-65%..."Deep leagues(58 man rosters), holding two spots is worth the chance of one becoming the lead backup if MJD were to go down imho
 
People seriously think the Jags will use a 3rd down back? Not as long as MJD is healthy they won't. He's a vicious pass blocker and one of the best recieving RBs in the NFL (and one of the best goal line RBs to boot). Any other back in on 3rd down is a huge downgrade. The Jags have also shown they don't mind feeding MJD 30+ carries in a game.

 
People seriously think the Jags will use a 3rd down back? Not as long as MJD is healthy they won't. He's a vicious pass blocker and one of the best recieving RBs in the NFL (and one of the best goal line RBs to boot). Any other back in on 3rd down is a huge downgrade. The Jags have also shown they don't mind feeding MJD 30+ carries in a game.
Actually they used Jennings a lot on third and long situations last season. I understand it doesn't make a lot of sense to take MJD out in that situation but they didn't ask me. Deji will come in as the front runner for KO returner and have a chance to win some time as a situational RB. Jennings should remain RB2 and his workload should increase slightly this season. If MJD gets hurt I would expect Jennings to get more carries but RBBC overall.
 
I picked him at 3.1 in my ppr rookie draft. Of all the players left at that point, I believe he had the highest upside. There were only two others left who I would have even considered at that point. I liked Jennings last year some, but he was NOWHERE near a 1st round talent. From what I've seen and heard, Karim could be close to a MJD clone.

Especially in the 3rd round, talent wins over situation. Who's to say that MJD can't get hurt? Or if Karim really has the talent, J'ville will either spell MJD more, or find a way to get him on the field WITH MJD.

And if he flashes in the pre-season and I have to stash him a while, so what? I'd rather have him than the run on TEs that followed him or a WR with WR4 potential.

 

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