Denard Robinson (1 Viewer)

[loose circuits]

this kid is electric. Every time I watch him play I'm amazed by the moves he can put on people. So it got me wondering what he ends up doing on the next level? Does he have the hands to play WR? The size to play RB? The arm to play QB?

Certainly a kid of his talent will find a team to play for on Sunday's, but I hope he's not just relegated to KR/PR. He reminds me a lot of Cribbs except he's a little quicker and doesn't have as much power

For those of you with the Big10 Network I'd suggest watching when Michigan is on offense. It's about as good as college football gets

 

[jon_mx]

His best hope is at WR or KR. Perhaps he could be a third down back. He probably isn't really durable enough to make it as a pro though. He hasn't shown nearly enough accuracy to make it as a pro at the QB position. I doubt he gets drafted, but someone could take or flyer late or sign him.

 

[loose circuits]

His best hope is at WR or KR. Perhaps he could be a third down back. He probably isn't really durable enough to make it as a pro though. He hasn't shown nearly enough accuracy to make it as a pro at the QB position. I doubt he gets drafted, but someone could take or flyer late or sign him.

he's a year away from the draft, but I don't see how he doesn't get drafted if a guy like Armanti Edwards is selected at the third At the least, I think he could do what Brad Smith does only better, no? His field vision and football IQ seem to be as good as anyone at his levelthe funny thing is this Gardner that is sitting behind him will likely be a NFL QB after only really starting for 1 year although they are getting him involved with the offense this year. Maybe we'll see Gardner at QB and Denard lining up at RB or WR a lot more in the future. Wouldn't be a bad idea to show pro scouts your skills and would help Michigan get their best 11 on the field

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

See Randle El

 

[Bojang0301]

See Randle El

He's a little bit better than that. My guess is RB. Kind of an everyman hybrid in the form of Josh Cribbs but much more talented.

 

[Steed]

The way he runs reminds me exactly of Josh Cribbs.

 

[coolnerd]

See Randle El

Think many people probably have forgotten how spectacular this guy was at very blah football program. Using wikipedia because I don't want do much huntinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwaan_Randle_El#College_career

While at Indiana, Randle El became the first player in NCAA Division I history to pass for 40 career touchdowns and score 40 career rushing touchdowns.[2] In 2001, he awarded the Chicago Tribune Silver Football, presented by the Chicago Tribune to the Most Valuable Player of the Big Ten Conference. He finished his college career as fifth on the all-time NCAA total yardage list, and became the first player in college football history to record 2,500 total yards for four consecutive years. Tallying 7,469 passing yards, 3,895 rushing yards, and 92 touchdowns running and passing for his college career, he finish sixth in the Heisman Trophy voting in his senior season. Randle El ended his college career with a 26-15 win over the Kentucky Wildcats, passing for two touchdowns.[10]

Robinson has a good chance of catching the rushing yards as a QB, but the passing stats and total TDs are probably way out of his way even if Robinson stays for a 4th year. I think this a great comparison player as he is not thick like Cribbs, and is both quicker/faster than either El or Cribbs. My guess is that this type of guy will be in the 2nd maybe 3rd much like El and Edwards.

 

[jon_mx]

See Randle El

Think many people probably have forgotten how spectacular this guy was at very blah football program. Using wikipedia because I don't want do much huntinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwaan_Randle_El#College_career

While at Indiana, Randle El became the first player in NCAA Division I history to pass for 40 career touchdowns and score 40 career rushing touchdowns.[2] In 2001, he awarded the Chicago Tribune Silver Football, presented by the Chicago Tribune to the Most Valuable Player of the Big Ten Conference. He finished his college career as fifth on the all-time NCAA total yardage list, and became the first player in college football history to record 2,500 total yards for four consecutive years. Tallying 7,469 passing yards, 3,895 rushing yards, and 92 touchdowns running and passing for his college career, he finish sixth in the Heisman Trophy voting in his senior season. Randle El ended his college career with a 26-15 win over the Kentucky Wildcats, passing for two touchdowns.[10]

Robinson has a good chance of catching the rushing yards as a QB, but the passing stats and total TDs are probably way out of his way even if Robinson stays for a 4th year. I think this a great comparison player as he is not thick like Cribbs, and is both quicker/faster than either El or Cribbs. My guess is that this type of guy will be in the 2nd maybe 3rd much like El and Edwards.

I was at his first game he played for IU versus Western Michigan. One of the most impressive performances I have ever seen. Threw for 385 yards and three TD's and rushed for 82 and another 3 TD's. He had no blocking and was constantly scrambling for his life, but was nearly perfect throwing the ball. I thought he had a chance to get a Heisman.

 

[AmosMoses]

He'll be a WR for about 3 years. Then UPS or something else.

 

[loose circuits]

Didn't Randle El play a lot of wr his senior year?

 

[coolnerd]

Didn't Randle El play a lot of wr his senior year?

This sounds corect, but it seemed short lived

 

[Time Kibitzer]

Not QB anyway.

 

[fasteddie_21]

The way he runs reminds me exactly of Josh Cribbs.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

See Randle El

Think many people probably have forgotten how spectacular this guy was at very blah football program. Using wikipedia because I don't want do much huntinghttp://en.wikipedia....#College_career

While at Indiana, Randle El became the first player in NCAA Division I history to pass for 40 career touchdowns and score 40 career rushing touchdowns.[2] In 2001, he awarded the Chicago Tribune Silver Football, presented by the Chicago Tribune to the Most Valuable Player of the Big Ten Conference. He finished his college career as fifth on the all-time NCAA total yardage list, and became the first player in college football history to record 2,500 total yards for four consecutive years. Tallying 7,469 passing yards, 3,895 rushing yards, and 92 touchdowns running and passing for his college career, he finish sixth in the Heisman Trophy voting in his senior season. Randle El ended his college career with a 26-15 win over the Kentucky Wildcats, passing for two touchdowns.[10]

Robinson has a good chance of catching the rushing yards as a QB, but the passing stats and total TDs are probably way out of his way even if Robinson stays for a 4th year. I think this a great comparison player as he is not thick like Cribbs, and is both quicker/faster than either El or Cribbs. My guess is that this type of guy will be in the 2nd maybe 3rd much like El and Edwards.

People forget how good Randle-El was in college. he was an absolute beast.

 

[loose circuits]

Randle El was also a good enough athlete to play both college baseball and basketball at different times...that tells you what kind of athlete he was, but I'm not sure Denard isn't better running with the football. His stuff his electric, but I can remember thinking Antwaan had some skills too

 

[Chase Stuart]

Michigan lists Robinson at 6'0, 195, but that seems generous to me. His agility makes me think he's a WR or CB in the NFL. Maybe he's Devin Hester 2.0.

Think the big thing for him will be what he weighs at the combine. If he can get up to 205, that opens the door at RB (I don't think there's any opening anywhere at QB -- wildcat excepting, of course) if he wants to go that route. He'll obviously be given a chance to be a returner, but I think CB or WR makes the most sense for him. I'd actually try him out at CB first, as the sort of instincts and quicks he has is so rare that it could work.

 

[bengalbuck]

I'm not seeing the Josh Cribbs comparison at all. Cribbs has like 3 inches and 20 pounds on Robinson and plays a much, much more physical brand of football.

Randle El makes more sense as a comp.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

Didn't Randle El play a lot of wr his senior year?

NO

 

[jon_mx]

Didn't Randle El play a lot of wr his senior year?

NO

They did experiment with the idea, but it was short-lived.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Anyone know what his 40 time might be at? I hbe no idea how fast he is, but I'd think that'll be a bigger draft day bump for him than his weight. If he has elite speed to go with all that talent then he'll be just fine - someone will take a chance on him and give him a shot to show something.

 

[coolnerd]

Anyone know what his 40 time might be at? I hbe no idea how fast he is, but I'd think that'll be a bigger draft day bump for him than his weight. If he has elite speed to go with all that talent then he'll be just fine - someone will take a chance on him and give him a shot to show something.

He has ran track for Michigan and probably is a legitimate candidate to run 4.3.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Didn't Randle El play a lot of wr his senior year?

NO

They did experiment with the idea, but it was short-lived.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/antwaan-randle-el-1.html

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

Didn't Randle El play a lot of wr his senior year?

NO

They did experiment with the idea, but it was short-lived.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/antwaan-randle-el-1.html

well i may not remember it so i could be wrong, the 4rec doesn't change much IMO as a lifelong Michigan fan i know Brian Griese caught a few passes even some in bowl games on gimmick plays. Brian was 1/1000 the athlete as El so i can see those type of plays happening.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Anyone know what his 40 time might be at? I hbe no idea how fast he is, but I'd think that'll be a bigger draft day bump for him than his weight. If he has elite speed to go with all that talent then he'll be just fine - someone will take a chance on him and give him a shot to show something.

 

[Bri]

His best hope is at WR or KR. Perhaps he could be a third down back. He probably isn't really durable enough to make it as a pro though. He hasn't shown nearly enough accuracy to make it as a pro at the QB position. I doubt he gets drafted, but someone could take or flyer late or sign him.

he's a year away from the draft, but I don't see how he doesn't get drafted if a guy like Armanti Edwards is selected at the third

yeah armanti was a horrible college QB

 

[Ladsud]

Interesting stat I found looking up Robinson, Mike Kafka is is tied with Robinson for the 2nd most rushing yards in a game with 217.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Anyone know what his 40 time might be at? I hbe no idea how fast he is, but I'd think that'll be a bigger draft day bump for him than his weight. If he has elite speed to go with all that talent then he'll be just fine - someone will take a chance on him and give him a shot to show something.

I would guess he runs a legit 4.3

 

[jon_mx]

Didn't Randle El play a lot of wr his senior year?

NO

They did experiment with the idea, but it was short-lived.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/antwaan-randle-el-1.html

If you look at the game logs, the experiment lasted one game. NC State beat them 35-14 with some qb named phillip rivers. IU played Tommy Jones at QB and that was the game Antwaan caught all 4 of his balls for the year.

 

[loose circuits]

His best hope is at WR or KR. Perhaps he could be a third down back. He probably isn't really durable enough to make it as a pro though. He hasn't shown nearly enough accuracy to make it as a pro at the QB position. I doubt he gets drafted, but someone could take or flyer late or sign him.

he's a year away from the draft, but I don't see how he doesn't get drafted if a guy like Armanti Edwards is selected at the third

yeah armanti was a horrible college QB

what are you confused about? They are similar players so if Armanti was drafted, Denard likely will be as well. Denard rushed for 1700 yards against Big 10 competition while Armanti was close against lesser competition, but not quite there. Denard has rushed for 6.6 ypc while Armanti averaged 5.8. He may have been a better passer, but what does that matter when you are drafting a guy to be a WR/KR/possible RB?

 

[T with T]

Rb, or slot wr. Also kr/pr availability as well. If he could throw more accurate I could see qb a possibility.

 

[Bri]

His best hope is at WR or KR. Perhaps he could be a third down back. He probably isn't really durable enough to make it as a pro though. He hasn't shown nearly enough accuracy to make it as a pro at the QB position. I doubt he gets drafted, but someone could take or flyer late or sign him.

he's a year away from the draft, but I don't see how he doesn't get drafted if a guy like Armanti Edwards is selected at the third

yeah armanti was a horrible college QB

what are you confused about? They are similar players so if Armanti was drafted, Denard likely will be as well. Denard rushed for 1700 yards against Big 10 competition while Armanti was close against lesser competition, but not quite there. Denard has rushed for 6.6 ypc while Armanti averaged 5.8. He may have been a better passer, but what does that matter when you are drafting a guy to be a WR/KR/possible RB?

I see. I thought it was negative and it wasn't. Sorry bout that

 

[Reservoir Dog]

Michigan season ticket holder here.

My first thought is a Darren Sproles/Danny Woodhead type player. I see him as a dynamic 3rd down RB, and playing some slot WR.

Denard is a special talent, and will play in the NFL. Everytime he touches the ball, he is a threat to take it to the house.

 

[eakfootball]

Return man. Wildcard package. Should be around a 4th round pick because he is so electric.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Rb, or slot wr. Also kr/pr availability as well. If he could throw more accurate I could see qb a possibility.

Will never be a qb. to short, terrible accuracy

 

[loose circuits]

robinson looked awful against the blitz today. Michigan may be better off converting him to RB/WR sooner than later and using Gardner at QB especially after seeing him chuck the rock across the field after denard went down he looks raw, but has a cannon

 

[Cecil Lammey]

The general consensus amongst the scouting community is that he'll play RB. I could see him being used as a slot WR, KR/PR, in addition to being a change of pace RB.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

BTW, NFL Draft Scout has him listed as a RB...talking to Reuter and Rang they see him only as a RB.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2013_RB

 

[JuSt CuZ]

As a Michigan fan...

He will not make it in the NFL in any way, shape, or form. He is too soft and just dont have the NFL talent level. You need more than speed in the NFL, he don't have good decision making as well.

Just a Michigan fans opinion.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

As a Michigan fan...He will not make it in the NFL in any way, shape, or form. He is too soft and just dont have the NFL talent level. You need more than speed in the NFL, he don't have good decision making as well.Just a Michigan fans opinion.

punt/kicker returner, maybe with some gadet plays thrown in. Be lucky to be drafted

 

[Time Kibitzer]

As a Michigan fan...He will not make it in the NFL in any way, shape, or form. He is too soft and just dont have the NFL talent level. You need more than speed in the NFL, he don't have good decision making as well.Just a Michigan fans opinion.

punt/kicker returner, maybe with some gadet plays thrown in. Be lucky to be drafted

Dexter McCluster and Armanti Edwards were drafted. Granted they weren't good picks, but I struggle to believe not a single team will fall in love with Denard enough for him to be drafted.

 

[Run It Up]

Smaller Faster Brad Smith

 

[Trizzler]

With the absence of Al Davis in the NFL GM ring next spring, I find it difficult to believe Robinson will be drafted before the sixth round. Guy has speed and elusiveness, but terrible decision making abilities.

Robert Griffin is far more developed than Robinson, and while he would still need a lot of polishing, I can actually see Griffin quarterbacking an NFL team this decade.

 

[Ilov80s]

The best thing for UM and Denard is to move him to wing back. He has the speed, vision, and quickness to be a play maker in the NFL as a 3rd down back, change of pace, wildcat, and return man. In the open field, there isn't anyone as dangerous in college football.

First College Snap

Cut Back Ability

Speed

 

[Ilov80s]

With the absence of Al Davis in the NFL GM ring next spring, I find it difficult to believe Robinson will be drafted before the sixth round. Guy has speed and elusiveness, but terrible decision making abilities.

Robert Griffin is far more developed than Robinson, and while he would still need a lot of polishing, I can actually see Griffin quarterbacking an NFL team this decade.

Bold statement considering most scouts have him rated as a 1st round pick.

 

[IHEARTFF]

As a Michigan fan...He will not make it in the NFL in any way, shape, or form. He is too soft and just dont have the NFL talent level. You need more than speed in the NFL, he don't have good decision making as well.Just a Michigan fans opinion.

punt/kicker returner, maybe with some gadet plays thrown in. Be lucky to be drafted

Dexter McCluster and Armanti Edwards were drafted. Granted they weren't good picks, but I struggle to believe not a single team will fall in love with Denard enough for him to be drafted.

McCluster was a 2nd rounder. Edwards was like a 4th I think. Denard definitely does not have the passing skill set to make it as a qb in the NFL, but he will most likely get drafted as a WR/RB/KR hybrid player.

 

[coolnerd]

As a Michigan fan...He will not make it in the NFL in any way, shape, or form. He is too soft and just dont have the NFL talent level. You need more than speed in the NFL, he don't have good decision making as well.Just a Michigan fans opinion.

punt/kicker returner, maybe with some gadet plays thrown in. Be lucky to be drafted

Dexter McCluster and Armanti Edwards were drafted. Granted they weren't good picks, but I struggle to believe not a single team will fall in love with Denard enough for him to be drafted.

McCluster was a 2nd rounder. Edwards was like a 4th I think. Denard definitely does not have the passing skill set to make it as a qb in the NFL, but he will most likely get drafted as a WR/RB/KR hybrid player.

Edwards was a 3rd rounder who the Panthers traded a future 2nd rounder. Also, Pat White, similar styled college QB, was a 2nd rounder. The recent history around really fast QBs, who have some issues throwing is not that great, butRobinson seems better than those guys, but honestly teams have to design the right stuff for those tyess.

 

[loose circuits]

he still has another year before he's going to come out.

I think the haters are underrating his natural vision when he is running. He may not have it passing the ball and reading d's, but when he takes off it seems he has a sense of what's going on around him.

Seems like Michigan would be better off finding out how good he is as a RB or WR. He should know the field.

hope his torso injury isn't too bad. Got the Crickless huskers up next...

 

[JuSt CuZ]

As a Michigan fan...He will not make it in the NFL in any way, shape, or form. He is too soft and just dont have the NFL talent level. You need more than speed in the NFL, he don't have good decision making as well.Just a Michigan fans opinion.

punt/kicker returner, maybe with some gadet plays thrown in. Be lucky to be drafted

Dexter McCluster and Armanti Edwards were drafted. Granted they weren't good picks, but I struggle to believe not a single team will fall in love with Denard enough for him to be drafted.

McCluster was a 2nd rounder. Edwards was like a 4th I think. Denard definitely does not have the passing skill set to make it as a qb in the NFL, but he will most likely get drafted as a WR/RB/KR hybrid player.

Edwards was a 3rd rounder who the Panthers traded a future 2nd rounder. Also, Pat White, similar styled college QB, was a 2nd rounder. The recent history around really fast QBs, who have some issues throwing is not that great, butRobinson seems better than those guys, but honestly teams have to design the right stuff for those tyess.

How has any of these players peform?I love McClusters talent, but being that small has an effect of how effective you can be. Its just the way it is, but I wish it wasnt.

 

[nkowal]

Today was definitely not the best judge of his passing ability, as anyone who was at the game will tell you that it was incredibly windy. If you were going towards the North endzone there was about a 30mph wind in your face. Cousins was throwing balls 8 yards short throwing into the same wind.

That being said, he's not an NFL QB despite having a strong arm, he simply doesn't have the decision-making or accuracy to make it there on the next level. However, the idea that "he doesn't have NFL talent" is laughable. He's simply incredibly dangerous in the open field and an excellent runner.

He could definitely carve out a niche as a KR/PR, a slot/#4 WR and 3rd down RB.

 

[Ilov80s]

As a Michigan fan...He will not make it in the NFL in any way, shape, or form. He is too soft and just dont have the NFL talent level. You need more than speed in the NFL, he don't have good decision making as well.Just a Michigan fans opinion.

punt/kicker returner, maybe with some gadet plays thrown in. Be lucky to be drafted

Dexter McCluster and Armanti Edwards were drafted. Granted they weren't good picks, but I struggle to believe not a single team will fall in love with Denard enough for him to be drafted.

McCluster was a 2nd rounder. Edwards was like a 4th I think. Denard definitely does not have the passing skill set to make it as a qb in the NFL, but he will most likely get drafted as a WR/RB/KR hybrid player.

Edwards was a 3rd rounder who the Panthers traded a future 2nd rounder. Also, Pat White, similar styled college QB, was a 2nd rounder. The recent history around really fast QBs, who have some issues throwing is not that great, butRobinson seems better than those guys, but honestly teams have to design the right stuff for those tyess.

How has any of these players peform?I love McClusters talent, but being that small has an effect of how effective you can be. Its just the way it is, but I wish it wasnt.

McCluster is 5-8 170, Denard is 6-1 193. There is a big size difference- also a major speed difference. McCluster ran a 4.58 40, I'd bet my house that Denard blows that away. They are not similar athletes. For others that compared him to Banks and Cribbs, he is much faster than those guys as well.