Denarius Moore - CIncinnatti Bengals (1 Viewer)

[LHUCKS]

I've seen four Raider WRs drafted this year and it makes little sense to me...are the Raiders going to Pass for 4000 yards all of a sudden???

By comparison, the Cardinals will easily pass for more yards and there are only two Cards WRs getting drafted.

This board has an obsession with Raiders WRs and it's weird.

 

[DropKick]

Moore has caught everything thrown his way so far. Chaz with 1 catch rush and a visit to the trainers table after getting tackled. Man that guy is one ginormous ####.

With a name like "Chaz", this is a surprise to you?

 

[UnknownCoach]

I've seen four Raider WRs drafted this year and it makes little sense to me...are the Raiders going to Pass for 4000 yards all of a sudden???By comparison, the Cardinals will easily pass for more yards and there are only two Cards WRs getting drafted.This board has an obsession with Raiders WRs and it's weird.

I think the obsession here is that every team must have a so called WR1 and that's the guy they want to find and put on their fantasy team. Because Oakland doesnt have one, everyone wants to pick the guy they think it is.Its completely bogus as many teams dont have a so called WR1 (none do in reality) and many receivers have their best seasons playing alongside another simuliar high output receiver.

 

[gandalas]

I've seen four Raider WRs drafted this year and it makes little sense to me...are the Raiders going to Pass for 4000 yards all of a sudden???By comparison, the Cardinals will easily pass for more yards and there are only two Cards WRs getting drafted.This board has an obsession with Raiders WRs and it's weird.

Not that hard to figure out, Hucks. Everyone and their mother know who the #1 target in ARI is going to be, and there will be scraps left over after him. In OAK, SOMEONE will have to be the #1 WR, and since there is no real answer who that is at the moment, everyone is going to be taken in the case that he will be "the guy".If ARI didn't have Fitzy, then it would be the same thing over there.

 

[mr roboto]

Just got him at 3.05 in 10-team non-PPR QB heavy dynasty rook draft (6 QB's went before him).

 

[FunkyTeaParty]

How am I supposed to keep this thing in my pants?

 

[Sweetsie]

According to Steve Corkran of the Contra Costa Times, rookie Denarius Moore "not only is the best wide receiver on the field, oftentimes he is the best player, period."

 

[Eastwood]

Ford is the stud to own on this team.

 

[mr roboto]

According to Steve Corkran of the Contra Costa Times, rookie Denarius Moore "not only is the best wide receiver on the field, oftentimes he is the best player, period."

Is this including Ford? Because he seemed to be the breakout answer last year.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Ford is the stud to own on this team.

That's what I am thinking too. I own him in dynasty and am trying to decide if I want another Raiders WR on my roster. Ford owners, are you targeting Moore as well?

 

[mr roboto]

Another question - does anyone know why Moore fell so late in the draft. From all accounts he had a great workout and was impressive in the Texas v Nation game. Just a little strange if he is this impressive in camp and drills that no one took him sooner.

 

[njherdfan]

For the Raiders homers here, what is it about Moore that has looked so good thus far? Is he simply out-running defensive backs, is he more physical than them, is he running great routes and getting open a lot etc.?

 

[FavreCo]

I've seen four Raider WRs drafted this year and it makes little sense to me...are the Raiders going to Pass for 4000 yards all of a sudden???By comparison, the Cardinals will easily pass for more yards and there are only two Cards WRs getting drafted.This board has an obsession with Raiders WRs and it's weird.

Dynasty? This guy is a solid dynasty #6 WR. You have to be forward looking in dynasty. By the time I need him, if he pans out, they may have a real QB. You can't always wait for Andrew Luck to be drafted where one of your WR's are. Not that the raiders have a chance at him. They don't.

 

[FavreCo]

Another question - does anyone know why Moore fell so late in the draft. From all accounts he had a great workout and was impressive in the Texas v Nation game. Just a little strange if he is this impressive in camp and drills that no one took him sooner.

23 GM's are grilling their scouting department on that one.

For the Raiders homers here, what is it about Moore that has looked so good thus far? Is he simply out-running defensive backs, is he more physical than them, is he running great routes and getting open a lot etc.?

All of the above. He's getting separation on solid route running. He's plucking the ball at it's highest point, outjumping defenders for the ball. He is a hands catcher. He is fast. He is getting off the jam.On Sunday, Moore was at it again. Not once, or twice, but three times he had fans and teammates oohing and aahing over his ability to get open, adjust to the ball flight, get position on the defender and make a play on the ball.

The first time, Moore slowed up, outleaped rookie cornerback Sterling Moore and snared the ball at the highest point as people gasped. Moore came down with the ball, but it came out as he hit the ground. The play likely would have been ruled an incompletion, but it’s worth pointing out because few other receivers would have done the things necessary to make it close to a reception.

A bit later, Moore worked the left sideline, positioned himself just inbouns and made an outstretched catch of a dart in front of the defender.

On the third play, Moore beat cornerback Jeremy Ware with a double-move, with Moore continuing toward the end zone as Ware slipped to the ground. Safety Jerome Boyd made a sensational diving play to prevent the wide-open Moore from scoring.

 

[Chaka]

For the Raiders homers here, what is it about Moore that has looked so good thus far? Is he simply out-running defensive backs, is he more physical than them, is he running great routes and getting open a lot etc.?

All of the above. He's getting separation on solid route running. He's plucking the ball at it's highest point, outjumping defenders for the ball. He is a hands catcher. He is fast. He is getting off the jam.

What does that mean?

 

[thriftyrocker]

Any dynasty trades for him? I offered Johnny Knox (I know I know) and got quickly turned down. Don't know how high to go.

 

[CentralPA]

Thinking about dropping Earl Bennett and picking this guy up off the wavier wire in a redraft (3 Keeper) PPR league....

 

[No Way Jose]

Another question - does anyone know why Moore fell so late in the draft. From all accounts he had a great workout and was impressive in the Texas v Nation game. Just a little strange if he is this impressive in camp and drills that no one took him sooner.

I don't know why he fell either. I watched all his games at UT and he has the ability to be #1 wr. He got a 2nd round grade from the NFL and should have been taken before half of the ones taken before him. He is a great athlete and even better person. If you remember at the combine he had the fastest 40 time(think it was unofficial at the time). I see no reason that he couldn't take over Fords spot as wr1 at Oakland. He has better size and similar speed.

 

[gianmarco]

Thinking about dropping Earl Bennett and picking this guy up off the wavier wire in a redraft (3 Keeper) PPR league....

What's to think about? Bennett has 0 upside.

 

[CentralPA]

Thinking about dropping Earl Bennett and picking this guy up off the wavier wire in a redraft (3 Keeper) PPR league....

What's to think about? Bennett has 0 upside.

I know, just needed somebody to hold my hand and tell me it's OK.

 

[FavreCo]

For the Raiders homers here, what is it about Moore that has looked so good thus far? Is he simply out-running defensive backs, is he more physical than them, is he running great routes and getting open a lot etc.?

All of the above. He's getting separation on solid route running. He's plucking the ball at it's highest point, outjumping defenders for the ball. He is a hands catcher. He is fast. He is getting off the jam.

What does that mean?

The first time, Moore slowed up, outleaped rookie cornerback Sterling Moore and snared the ball at the highest point as people gasped. He's outleaping the defenders and timing his jumps to get the ball at it's highest point.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

For the Raiders homers here, what is it about Moore that has looked so good thus far? Is he simply out-running defensive backs, is he more physical than them, is he running great routes and getting open a lot etc.?

What I have seen of Moore, (and this goes with his tape at UT)...He has cat like reflexes and awareness of where the ball is in mid-flight. He's not overly physical, but just finds a way to beat his man to a spot, takes the proper angles, etc. He's not so fast as to be wide open, but he doesn't appear to need to be wide open either. If the ball is in the air, and it's either man's ball, Moore has that "my ball" mentality that he's going to make the play. He makes the play so many times more than not, and that's why you hear the buzz around him. He plays totally fearless.

 

[UnknownCoach]

According to Steve Corkran of the Contra Costa Times, rookie Denarius Moore "not only is the best wide receiver on the field, oftentimes he is the best player, period."

Is this including Ford? Because he seemed to be the breakout answer last year.

Ford, Murphy, and Schilens are all injured. Ford broke his arm. They all started out in camp but right now all that says is he's outplaying DHB and the scrubs. Moore could be one of the top WRs in this draft class, but dont expect a huge rookie season.

 

[Chaka]

For the Raiders homers here, what is it about Moore that has looked so good thus far? Is he simply out-running defensive backs, is he more physical than them, is he running great routes and getting open a lot etc.?

All of the above. He's getting separation on solid route running. He's plucking the ball at it's highest point, outjumping defenders for the ball. He is a hands catcher. He is fast. He is getting off the jam.

What does that mean?

The first time, Moore slowed up, outleaped rookie cornerback Sterling Moore and snared the ball at the highest point as people gasped. He's outleaping the defenders and timing his jumps to get the ball at it's highest point.

I saw that quote. Outleaping I understand but the whole "ball at the highest point" thing makes no sense.

 

[mr roboto]

For the Raiders homers here, what is it about Moore that has looked so good thus far? Is he simply out-running defensive backs, is he more physical than them, is he running great routes and getting open a lot etc.?

All of the above. He's getting separation on solid route running. He's plucking the ball at it's highest point, outjumping defenders for the ball. He is a hands catcher. He is fast. He is getting off the jam.

What does that mean?

The first time, Moore slowed up, outleaped rookie cornerback Sterling Moore and snared the ball at the highest point as people gasped. He's outleaping the defenders and timing his jumps to get the ball at it's highest point.

I saw that quote. Outleaping I understand but the whole "ball at the highest point" thing makes no sense.

I think this means that he goes up to get it at the highest catchable point as it is within the vicinity of him and the defender. Obviously not at the actual highest point in the ball's flight.I hear this a lot when reading evaluations about a WR. I think that is what it means. He doesn't let it come down and be contested. He get's to it before the DB. Think of Moss or Fitz on a fade route in the corner of the end zone.

 

[njherdfan]

For the Raiders homers here, what is it about Moore that has looked so good thus far? Is he simply out-running defensive backs, is he more physical than them, is he running great routes and getting open a lot etc.?

All of the above. He's getting separation on solid route running. He's plucking the ball at it's highest point, outjumping defenders for the ball. He is a hands catcher. He is fast. He is getting off the jam.

What does that mean?

The first time, Moore slowed up, outleaped rookie cornerback Sterling Moore and snared the ball at the highest point as people gasped. He's outleaping the defenders and timing his jumps to get the ball at it's highest point.

I saw that quote. Outleaping I understand but the whole "ball at the highest point" thing makes no sense.

I assume it's the same principle as getting a rebound. The more the ball descends, the better chance the DB has to knock it away, right?

 

[King of the Jungle]

For the Raiders homers here, what is it about Moore that has looked so good thus far? Is he simply out-running defensive backs, is he more physical than them, is he running great routes and getting open a lot etc.?

All of the above. He's getting separation on solid route running. He's plucking the ball at it's highest point, outjumping defenders for the ball. He is a hands catcher. He is fast. He is getting off the jam.

What does that mean?

The first time, Moore slowed up, outleaped rookie cornerback Sterling Moore and snared the ball at the highest point as people gasped. He's outleaping the defenders and timing his jumps to get the ball at it's highest point.

I saw that quote. Outleaping I understand but the whole "ball at the highest point" thing makes no sense.

I think he uses his jetpack to sky rocket 30 feet into the sky to catch the ball before it begins its descent.

 

[njherdfan]

For the Raiders homers here, what is it about Moore that has looked so good thus far? Is he simply out-running defensive backs, is he more physical than them, is he running great routes and getting open a lot etc.?

What I have seen of Moore, (and this goes with his tape at UT)...He has cat like reflexes and awareness of where the ball is in mid-flight. He's not overly physical, but just finds a way to beat his man to a spot, takes the proper angles, etc. He's not so fast as to be wide open, but he doesn't appear to need to be wide open either. If the ball is in the air, and it's either man's ball, Moore has that "my ball" mentality that he's going to make the play. He makes the play so many times more than not, and that's why you hear the buzz around him. He plays totally fearless.

 

[Eastwood]

I'm sure Moore has been solid (I admit I haven't watched him) but I think most agree Ford is the #1 guy. I just wonder how much can you expect from the Raiders passing game as long as Jason Campbell and company are chucking the ball?

 

[gbill2004]

I'm sure Moore has been solid (I admit I haven't watched him) but I think most agree Ford is the #1 guy. I just wonder how much can you expect from the Raiders passing game as long as Jason Campbell and company are chucking the ball?

With Zach Miller gone, I expect the Raiders will produce 2 fantasy relevant WR's (WR2-3 range), along with Kevin Boss. The Raiders offense came on strong last season, and this is Jason Campbell's first time ever in the NFL where he's been in the same offense for 2 consecutive seasons. Some reasons for optimism...

 

[FavreCo]

I think this means that he goes up to get it at the highest catchable point as it is within the vicinity of him and the defender. Obviously not at the actual highest point in the ball's flight.I hear this a lot when reading evaluations about a WR. I think that is what it means. He doesn't let it come down and be contested. He get's to it before the DB. Think of Moss or Fitz on a fade route in the corner of the end zone.

Yep.

 

[Cookiemonster]

I'm sure Moore has been solid (I admit I haven't watched him) but I think most agree Ford is the #1 guy. I just wonder how much can you expect from the Raiders passing game as long as Jason Campbell and company are chucking the ball?

With Zach Miller gone, I expect the Raiders will produce 2 fantasy relevant WR's (WR2-3 range), along with Kevin Boss. The Raiders offense came on strong last season, and this is Jason Campbell's first time ever in the NFL where he's been in the same offense for 2 consecutive seasons. Some reasons for optimism...

I think the floor for a top Raiders WR this year is about 60/800/6. Ceiling about 85/1100/8. This is Hue Jackson and Al Saunders here. O line is not ready to make this a dominant offense, but it could be with either an upgraded O line or an upgrade at QB... it doesn't need both. In dynasty, we have to consider DHB because it's Al Davis running the show and he's very proud and stubborn on his 1st round busts (and there's a small chance that the light comes on for him and he's worth it). We have to consider Ford, because he showed tremendous upside last year. We have to consider Louis Murphy who has been the most proficient the last two years, and Schilens who is reportedly (though nobody but beat reporters have seen it) the best of all 5. Somebody has to come up big out of this group, and you pick your favorite one or two or, gulp, three. I would go Ford and Moore 1A and 1B, with Schilens/DHB 3A and 3B. Don't forget that RBs will catch some balls and all of DMC, Bush and Reece will, so I don't see any value in getting the #3 from this group, but #1 or #2 could produce well enough to see a lineup a few times.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

With Zach Miller gone, I expect the Raiders will produce 2 fantasy relevant WR's (WR2-3 range), along with Kevin Boss. The Raiders offense came on strong last season, and this is Jason Campbell's first time ever in the NFL where he's been in the same offense for 2 consecutive seasons. Some reasons for optimism...

excellent observation, forgot about this being the news every year out of dc, new year, new playbook. don't think anyone expects Campbell to be a top anything QB, but with a young receiving corp developing around him there's definitely reason for optimism. i'm not buying on Campbell but totally agree about a relevant WR or two out of this team. i took a chance with chaz last year, will shift to moore. at least he's actually on the field.

 

[Cookiemonster]

With Zach Miller gone, I expect the Raiders will produce 2 fantasy relevant WR's (WR2-3 range), along with Kevin Boss. The Raiders offense came on strong last season, and this is Jason Campbell's first time ever in the NFL where he's been in the same offense for 2 consecutive seasons. Some reasons for optimism...

excellent observation, forgot about this being the news every year out of dc, new year, new playbook. don't think anyone expects Campbell to be a top anything QB, but with a young receiving corp developing around him there's definitely reason for optimism. i'm not buying on Campbell but totally agree about a relevant WR or two out of this team. i took a chance with chaz last year, will shift to moore. at least he's actually on the field.

Add to that, it's actually a repeat offense for Campbell, as he played under Saunders in DC too. So, say 3rd or 2nd1/2 time through a very productive system. If he doesn't turn the corner this year, I think you can stick a fork in him.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

With Zach Miller gone, I expect the Raiders will produce 2 fantasy relevant WR's (WR2-3 range), along with Kevin Boss. The Raiders offense came on strong last season, and this is Jason Campbell's first time ever in the NFL where he's been in the same offense for 2 consecutive seasons. Some reasons for optimism...

excellent observation, forgot about this being the news every year out of dc, new year, new playbook. don't think anyone expects Campbell to be a top anything QB, but with a young receiving corp developing around him there's definitely reason for optimism. i'm not buying on Campbell but totally agree about a relevant WR or two out of this team. i took a chance with chaz last year, will shift to moore. at least he's actually on the field.

Good points. And I'll add that I won't go out of my way to defend Jason Campbell as a fantasy quality starter. But he's got a young and improving WR's corps, and Moore and Ford are both playmakers that high-point and catch with their hands. They are natural receivers. Reece is another natural receiver with big hands that just makes plays at will. And McFadden is a candidate to catch 70 out of the backfield. Where is all this going? Campbell has a pretty intermediate and short throw, but his deep ball admittedly sucks. If he plays to his strengths, (and I think Hue Jackson will see to that) he could be very good. Now consider that both Moore and Ford have great ability in open space to get the YAC. A long gainer doesn't necessarily mean it must be thrown 50 yards in the air. DHB is the obstacle here. Once it is apparent that he doesn't deserve starter PT, it should open up opportunities for both Ford and Moore. But stubborn Al will give Bey every chance to fail. All the clutter in the depth chart is the factor that drives all Oakland WR's down and make Moore and Ford value picks in fantasy.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Rookie WR Denarius Moore talks about early-season successBy Steve CorkranMonday, August 15th, 2011 at 2:03 pm in Oakland Raiders.Rookie wide receiver Denarius Moore has burst on the scene in a way few rookies do in the NFL, especially fifth-round draft picks. He is making eye-opening, jaw-dropping plays on a regular basis at training camp. Through it all, the Tennessee product takes it all in stride. On Sunday, he fielded several questions about how he views his role with the Raiders, what it’s like to garner so much attention and how he approaches his job. Q: What kind of expectations did you have when you arrived at camp?A: “Just coming in and proving to the team what I’m capable of doing, trying to make the team and showing the coaches what I’m capable of doing, also.” Q: Are you playing above your head or is this the every-day Denarius?A: “I hear it here and there, coaches say I’m doing a good job, players say I’m doing a good job, they actually talk to me more. So, I guess I’m fitting in pretty well with the team right now.” Q: What’s your reaction to Hue Jackson singing your praises all the time?A: “It feels pretty good hearing it from the head coach. This is my first time actually hearing it. But hearing it from him, it means a whole lot to me right now.” Q: Nice to be compared to Jacoby Ford by Jason Campbell?A: “I know he’s fast like I’m fast, but Ford, running side by side, he has me on that one. Him comparing me to Jacoby Ford is a big deal for me right now.” Q: Anything you need to work on?A: “Still working on my blocking techniques, catching the consistent passes, and then working in and out of my breaks.” Q: How did you survive getting your hair cut when the other rookies got buzzed?A: “My position is not pretty much hyped up on that right now, but I do hear here and there that my eyebrows are going to be cut off. It’s coming soon.” Q: Will it be while you’re sleeping?A: “No, they’re going to wait until right before the game and then they’re going to cut them.” Q: Your stock soaring because of all the injuries to the other receivers?A: “It sort of threw me out there on the street real fast. I have to learn everything real fast, pick up on the offense real fast. So, by them going down, it’s just a chip on my shoulder right now that I got to prove that I can learn the playbook fast enough, faster than other rookies, and that they can depend on me if they want to.” Q: Any veteran receivers taking you under their wing?A: “All of them pretty much put me up under their wing. Darrius Heyward-Bey put me up under his wing. Jacoby Ford, Louis Murphy, all of them, pretty much put me up under their wing. Even though it feels good, they still help me out on the side.” Q: Do you have the mind-set that every pass your way is yours?A: “Yeah, that’s how I feel. If the ball’s thrown my way, if it’s around my area, that I can catch it. It should be mine.” Q: Nice to see fellow receivers such as DHB taking care of you during practice?A: “Yeah, it’s like we’re joking back and forth. Even though he’s tired, I may be tired, we joke back and forth with each other just to keep the practice going by fast.” Q: What’s it like having things go so fast. How is the chemistry in games?A: “It should be the same as practice, a little bit more faster tempo here and there. That’s why we practice so hard, so it can just come easy during the game.”

 

[massraider]

I'm sure Moore has been solid (I admit I haven't watched him) but I think most agree Ford is the #1 guy. I just wonder how much can you expect from the Raiders passing game as long as Jason Campbell and company are chucking the ball?

Most might agree with that, but not sure where that's coming from. Far from a settled situation. Big mistake to assume Ford is the unquestioned #1 guy.

 

[Eastwood]

I'm sure Moore has been solid (I admit I haven't watched him) but I think most agree Ford is the #1 guy. I just wonder how much can you expect from the Raiders passing game as long as Jason Campbell and company are chucking the ball?

Most might agree with that, but not sure where that's coming from. Far from a settled situation. Big mistake to assume Ford is the unquestioned #1 guy.

Don't have the link but I know coming into training camp, the coaches said Ford was the #1. And after watching him at Clemson, I think he'll keep it. I'm a bit of a when it comes to him I admit

 

[Lash]

For the Raiders homers here, what is it about Moore that has looked so good thus far? Is he simply out-running defensive backs, is he more physical than them, is he running great routes and getting open a lot etc.?

Yes

 

[Lash]

yes i don't understand the falling all over Ford as the automatic #1 WR due to 3 games last year

i like ford and have him in many leagues, but Moore is just a better WR

by 2012, we will be discussing if Ford can keep the WR2 job and hold off Schilens, Murphy, and whoever 4.29 guy Al drafts next year

 

[Lash]

here is a neat trick (i love the exclusion radio button when looking at rankings)

look at rookie rankings last 7 days (since the DMoore news hit big)

then exclude Tefertiller's (he posted 8/14 but it was in error as it had the same messages he had earlier, and LeShoure still ranked #4 overall rook, and DMoore was not in his top 40 rooks)

subscribers only: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/viewrankings.php?viewpos=ov&type=rookie&howrecent=7&exclude-115=on&exclude-134=on&exclude-50=on&exclude-132=on&exclude-116=on&exclude-40=on&exclude-129=on

DMoore is the #9 overall rook!!!!

 

[psychobillies]

yes i don't understand the falling all over Ford as the automatic #1 WR due to 3 games last yeari like ford and have him in many leagues, but Moore is just a better WRby 2012, we will be discussing if Ford can keep the WR2 job and hold off Schilens, Murphy, and whoever 4.29 guy Al drafts next year

I don't understand. Ford blows up in several actual NFL games, and people are overreacting to it, but Moore has some good practices, and a good preseason game, and he's clearly the better WR?I like Moore, and don't think you're way off here, but Ford is the #1 right now.

 

[LawFitz]

yes i don't understand the falling all over Ford as the automatic #1 WR due to 3 games last yeari like ford and have him in many leagues, but Moore is just a better WRby 2012, we will be discussing if Ford can keep the WR2 job and hold off Schilens, Murphy, and whoever 4.29 guy Al drafts next year

I don't understand. Ford blows up in several actual NFL games, and people are overreacting to it, but Moore has some good practices, and a good preseason game, and he's clearly the better WR?I like Moore, and don't think you're way off here, but Ford is the #1 right now.

Percy Harvin/Sydney Rice. Ford and Moore are complimentary players. The emergence of each will make the other better.

 

[pghrob]

Hmmm....all the hype is starting to have me thinking that maybe I made a mistake not getting him when I had the chance.

I passed on a chance about a week ago to trade TB Mike Williams for Jonathan Stewart and Denarius Moore and a 2012 3rd round rookie pick in my 12 team PPR dynasty league. The tade partner is in my division and I happen to be the DeAngelo Williams owner.

Giving him (the trade partner) Mike Williams in a trade will really improve his team's starting line-up this year, which quite honestly I do not want to do since I want to win the division. I also have his 2012 first round draft pick that I acquired via trade with another team, so giving him a better chance at winning each week make that first round pick drop in value should he win as a result of getting Williams.

Anyway, I am hijacking the thread a bit with my rambling about my team and why I passed the chance to get this emerging rookie start, but seeing as I passed on Moore when I had the chance, has anybody been in any trades involving Moore since his ascension up the rookie ranks? I am curious as to his value and what others are doing (or not doing) when it comes to trades involving him.

 

[valhallan]

yes i don't understand the falling all over Ford as the automatic #1 WR due to 3 games last yeari like ford and have him in many leagues, but Moore is just a better WRby 2012, we will be discussing if Ford can keep the WR2 job and hold off Schilens, Murphy, and whoever 4.29 guy Al drafts next year

I don't understand. Ford blows up in several actual NFL games, and people are overreacting to it, but Moore has some good practices, and a good preseason game, and he's clearly the better WR?I like Moore, and don't think you're way off here, but Ford is the #1 right now.

Check where Moore went to school and compare it to Lash's avatar. I like Moore just as we all do, but discounting Ford is just silly. He has already proven he can do everything well against regular season NFL defenses. Crossing routes, deep routes, returns, end arounds, jumpballs, locating errant Jason Campbell throws, etc. He's not going away.

 

[CentralPA]

Handcuffed Moore with Ford. I know the Oakland passing offense probably won't be anything special but crazier things have happened

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Whose spot will he take? DHB or Ford?

 

[LawFitz]

Whose spot will he take? DHB or Ford?

Now we have a legit question. In theory, it would be DHB. In reality though, we all know DHB will be given every chance to maintain his starting spot. When camp opened it was Schilens and Ford with the #1s. But DHB was hurt then. By the time he came back Ford was hurt and soon after Schilens got hurt.I personally think DHB and Ford will start the season opener. Moore is going to have to play his way into more PT as the season progresses, which based on camp reports and the first preseason game, I think he'll do.That said, Al Saunders was signing DHB's praises yesterday, so maybe we shouldn't completely write him off just yet.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Whose spot will he take? DHB or Ford?

I'll take a shot at this question. Although Lawfitz's answer seems likely and credible enough. I think Moore ends up taking Murphy's looks. Ford is the one guy who health permitting is not going to lose his slot position. I think DHB is a fixture on one side, and Murphy will have to step up his game to keep Moore from taking his spot. They are going to force DHB to have a make or break year, so he's not going anywhere. Also, I'm not thinking that Moore starts in any case in game 1, but he'll still get 'starters' snaps. Murphy, for all his rookie success is still very inconsistent, and it could cost him his starter slot, and ultimately his PT.

 

[RhymesMcJuice]

Whose spot will he take? DHB or Ford?

I'll take a shot at this question. Although Lawfitz's answer seems likely and credible enough. I think Moore ends up taking Murphy's looks. Ford is the one guy who health permitting is not going to lose his slot position. I think DHB is a fixture on one side, and Murphy will have to step up his game to keep Moore from taking his spot. They are going to force DHB to have a make or break year, so he's not going anywhere. Also, I'm not thinking that Moore starts in any case in game 1, but he'll still get 'starters' snaps. Murphy, for all his rookie success is still very inconsistent, and it could cost him his starter slot, and ultimately his PT.

I have all of them except Ford but if I had to choose one to keep it would be Moore. DHB has all the potential in world and is a hard worker but there is something missing when it comes to his hands. Maybe down the road he figures it out like Lloyd did but I don't see it happening with the Raiders. Murphy seems to be the odd man out and will probably lose snaps to Moore.