Denmark bans kosher and halal slaughter as minister says ‘animal right (1 Viewer)

[FlapJacks]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-bans-halal-and-kosher-slaughter-as-minister-says-animal-rights-come-before-religion-9135580.html

Denmark’s government has brought in a ban on the religious slaughter of animals for the production of halal and kosher meat, after years of campaigning from welfare activists.

 

[Parrothead]

oy

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Not really sure about the animal rights part of this but the whole kosher thing is stupid.

 

[Rayderr]

I'm fine with this, as long as the animal makes their intentions known.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Not really sure about the animal rights part of this but the whole kosher thing is stupid.

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My understanding has always been that it stemmed from sanitary / food safety issues that presented itself hundreds of years ago. Since most of the civilized world has that regulated now, it's an archaic, unnecessary practice.

 

[Parrothead]

I prefer circumsized beef

 

[Christo]

I prefer circumsized beef

I bet you do.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Obviously Denmark isn't bound by our constitution, but I don't think this would be a very problematic law even under our constitution. Laws of universal application don't offend the free exercise clause.

 

[Tom Servo]

I prefer circumsized beef

I bet you do.

 

[Limp Ditka]

'kosher' in the title, and 10 posts were made before tim chimed in?

 

[Sarnoff]

Not really sure about the animal rights part of this but the whole kosher thing is stupid.

I've always thought the kosher rules were kinda genius. I mean, given that they're 5000 years old, they're remarkably accurate rules for living in a culture that does not know of the germ theory of disease. Back then the best competing idea for why you got sick was that God was angry at you, and here's a bunch of people saying "if that cow died of some disease, let's not eat his meat. We should probably stay away from pork as a general rule while we're at it. And if we're cutting up raw meat with a knife, we probably shouldn't use that same knife on other stuff, especially if we're not going to cook it first."

While we know now how to handle these foods without spreading disease, the kosher rules kept them pretty safe for a few millennia. Sure, we've made advances and finally caught up after 4900 years and have just recently passed their level of knowledge, but, even today the occasional mad-cow-like situation occurs despite our progress.

 

[cstu]

I guess it's much ado about nothing.

However Khalil Jaffar, an imam at the Islamic Cultural Centre in Copenhagen, told Al Jazeera on Tuesday that Danish Islamic leaders had issued a religious decree several years ago saying that animals stunned before slaughter were considered halal in Denmark

He said that the international attention had however prompted Muslims living in other countries to ask him about the change.

Finn Schwarz, the president of the Jewish Community Centre, also based in the capital, said the change would not affect Denmark's small Jewish community because it imported its kosher meat.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

'kosher' in the title, and 10 posts were made before tim chimed in?

His hands were busy with a kosher salami.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

'kosher' in the title, and 10 posts were made before tim chimed in?

He's busy killing a lamb.

Mainly by telling it all about his feelings on religion, science, and politics. Seems cruel as hell to me, but apparently it's "kosher" to torture a helpless lamb.

 

[Sarnoff]

I guess it's much ado about nothing.

However Khalil Jaffar, an imam at the Islamic Cultural Centre in Copenhagen, told Al Jazeera on Tuesday that Danish Islamic leaders had issued a religious decree several years ago saying that animals stunned before slaughter were considered halal in Denmark

He said that the international attention had however prompted Muslims living in other countries to ask him about the change.

Finn Schwarz, the president of the Jewish Community Centre, also based in the capital, said the change would not affect Denmark's small Jewish community because it imported its kosher meat.

This makes sense. The rules are always open to interpretation. I would guess they felt the rule against "stunned" animals meant that if you see a sheep out in the field wandering listlessly, acting lethargic, with a glazed look in his eye, it's probably best to avoid that one and not eat his meat due to possible disease. "Sumptin' wrong with that one, let's keep him away." Whereas if you know that he's just groggy because he's a bit doped up pending his execution, then you're fine because you know he's otherwise safe to eat.

 

[FlapJacks]

I guess it's much ado about nothing.

However Khalil Jaffar, an imam at the Islamic Cultural Centre in Copenhagen, told Al Jazeera on Tuesday that Danish Islamic leaders had issued a religious decree several years ago saying that animals stunned before slaughter were considered halal in Denmark

He said that the international attention had however prompted Muslims living in other countries to ask him about the change.

Finn Schwarz, the president of the Jewish Community Centre, also based in the capital, said the change would not affect Denmark's small Jewish community because it imported its kosher meat.

This makes sense. The rules are always open to interpretation. I would guess they felt the rule against "stunned" animals meant that if you see a sheep out in the field wandering listlessly, acting lethargic, with a glazed look in his eye, it's probably best to avoid that one and not eat his meat due to possible disease. "Sumptin' wrong with that one, let's keep him away." Whereas if you know that he's just groggy because he's a bit doped up pending his execution, then you're fine because you know he's otherwise safe to eat.

But I suppose it's illegal now to not have that interpretation....kind of a big deal and an encroachment of religious practices that have been in place for thousands of years...

 

[NCCommish]

Not really caring how old the practice is. Kosher and Halal are central to many people's lives. I am a tree hugger by nature but this goes too far for me.

 

[MaxThreshold]

I prefer circumsized beef

I bet you do.

 

[Controller]

I prefer circumsized beef

I bet you do.