Maybe so, but Rolle seems like a good pick in hindsight. If I'm not mistaken, Karlos Dansby has also turned out pretty well for them.Dennis Green = Offensive Draft Day Genius. All you have to do is look back at his drafts with the Vikings. Great at picking offensive players, but couldn't find and develop a defensive player to save his life.
Maybe so, but Rolle seems like a good pick in hindsight. If I'm not mistaken, Karlos Dansby has also turned out pretty well for them.Dennis Green = Offensive Draft Day Genius. All you have to do is look back at his drafts with the Vikings. Great at picking offensive players, but couldn't find and develop a defensive player to save his life.
If the Cards can't wrangle a few NFC West Division titles and some playoff success out of this, it means the Football Gods have cursed them for all time (or at least until Bidwells are out of the picture).LEINART ....in a new stadium......to Fitzgerald, Boldin, Pope and Edge James......in due time. This is nice to see. Congrats Cards fans! Your time has about come.
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The got Deuce Latui as well. I thought he was the second best player in the Rose Bowl last year.I thought they needed OL? All those weapons can't do diddly without blocking.
Rams have been a high scoring O for a long while and are never easy to beat. The Hawks were excellent last year and look like they're having a nice draft. Division title might be hard but they should be a regular in the playoffsIf the Cards can't wrangle a few NFC West Division titles and some playoff success out of this, it means the Football Gods have cursed them for all time (or at least until Bidwells are out of the picture).LEINART ....in a new stadium......to Fitzgerald, Boldin, Pope and Edge James......in due time. This is nice to see. Congrats Cards fans! Your time has about come.
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plus the 4th round G last year.That rookie C seemed to calm down and be OK after a rough startSo he messed up on JJ Sara-ington last year...he hit a homerun today.
Pope and Leinart were sweet value and filled huge holes at the same time.
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Strengths: He is a massive two-gap NT/DT prospect that can be absolutely dominant in spurts. Plays with good leverage when fresh and has proven capable of gobbling up two blockers in those instances. He clogs gaps and seals off the inside run, forcing RB's to bounce a lot of runs to the outside. He protects his LB's well and allows them to roam. He shows the lower body strength and overall mass to overpower offensive linemen at the POA. He will show some surprising quickness when he is fresh. Also, while he doesn't have great speed or athleticism as a pass rusher, he does collapse the pocket when fresh. He is a one-dimensional pass rusher but he shows the initial burst, power and size and drive the OC back into his QB. He has been extremely durable and he is a high-character person with no off-the-field baggage.
Weaknesses: Production is entirely too inconsistent. Lacks conditioning and stamina. Has a tendency to wear down quickly. When that's the case, he comes out of his stance too high, loses his leverage and becomes much less effective. His weight will need to be consistently monitored in the NFL and he will need coaches to stay on him regarding his conditioning. He seems to lack ideal natural instincts at times. Not a great pass rusher. Does not show the burst through the LOS or the closing speed to make a huge impact in that facet at the NFL level. May never be more than a two-down player.
Overall: Watson appeared in eight games as a reserve DT during his true freshman season in 2002 and he appeared in all 13 games as a backup DT during his sophomore season in 2003. As a junior in 2004, Watson took over as a fulltime starter at NT in the team's new 3-4 alignment and he finished with 37 total tackles, seven TFL and two sacks. He was named All-Big Ten first team by the coaches and All-Big Ten second team by the media in 2004. Watson played in all 12 games and started eight as a senior in 2005 and finished with 40 tackles, 6.5 TFL and two sacks. Watson is a massive DT/NT prospect with an outstanding combination of size, strength, quickness and athletic ability. He is a durable player and a high-character person. However, his inconsistent production and lack of stamina became maddening for Michigan coaches and led to Watson's benching for four games during his senior season. Watson seems to give a good effort when fresh and he can be absolutely dominant during those spurts. However, he tires easily and winds up taking entirely too many plays off throughout the course of a game. Because of the increased demand for a 3-4 nose tackle in the NFL combined with the insufficient supply that typically comes out of the college draft, a team could reach for Watson as early as the first round.
Don't forget Darnell Dockett too.Maybe so, but Rolle seems like a good pick in hindsight. If I'm not mistaken, Karlos Dansby has also turned out pretty well for them.Dennis Green = Offensive Draft Day Genius. All you have to do is look back at his drafts with the Vikings. Great at picking offensive players, but couldn't find and develop a defensive player to save his life.
Meggett was adored by NY Giant fans. Pats fans really appreciate Kevin Faulk. If Arrington lost his desire to be an everydown back and played the 3rd down role real well like them, then he could make a difference in this league. I just don't see it as an everydown back. With all the huge egos of the NFL, it's not often a guy accepts this limitted role and thrives at it. As for your last sentence, I've been saying that for a couple years now if not longer. His Minny O were excellent and he's doing it again.Let's not write off Arrington just yet either. I think this kid still has some potential especially with Edge there to show the kid what works and what doesn't work.
Denny Green is a draft guru. He is putting together arguably the best offense in football.
yep...dockett is a stud.Don't forget Darnell Dockett too.Maybe so, but Rolle seems like a good pick in hindsight. If I'm not mistaken, Karlos Dansby has also turned out pretty well for them.Dennis Green = Offensive Draft Day Genius. All you have to do is look back at his drafts with the Vikings. Great at picking offensive players, but couldn't find and develop a defensive player to save his life.
What conference did Pope play in?So he messed up on JJ Sara-ington last year...he hit a homerun today.
Pope and Leinart were sweet value and filled huge holes at the same time.
Much manlove for Green.![]()
SEC - Georgia BulldogsWhat conference did Pope play in?So he messed up on JJ Sara-ington last year...he hit a homerun today.
Pope and Leinart were sweet value and filled huge holes at the same time.
Much manlove for Green.![]()
I think he learned that from Shipp last year.Let's not write off Arrington just yet either. I think this kid still has some potential especially with Edge there to show the kid what works and what doesn't work.
Denny Green is a draft guru. He is putting together arguably the best offense in football.
Arizona is almost a lock for the playoffs this year.Bookmarking this thread. A draft day genius should be able to finish above .500 and make the playoffs after 3 drafts, no? Arizona needs to add 4 wins to their '05 record.
I'll check back in January.
Please tell me you did NOT just jinx us like that.Arizona is almost a lock for the playoffs this year.Bookmarking this thread. A draft day genius should be able to finish above .500 and make the playoffs after 3 drafts, no? Arizona needs to add 4 wins to their '05 record.
I'll check back in January.
You would think so, yes. Dan Snyder used to (appear to his team's fans to) do pretty well with offseason signings for the Redskins when he was making personnel decisions. But they never made the playoffs during those years and nobody accused him of being a genius. I'm not sure why it should be any different for Denny Green.Bookmarking this thread. A draft day genius should be able to finish above .500 and make the playoffs after 3 drafts, no?
Denny Green is an outstanding personnel guy and can really make an offense hum. I probably made a bit of an exageration with claiming they are a lock because anything can happen in the NFL. But the Cardinals will be a division contender this year.Please tell me you did NOT just jinx us like that.Arizona is almost a lock for the playoffs this year.Bookmarking this thread. A draft day genius should be able to finish above .500 and make the playoffs after 3 drafts, no? Arizona needs to add 4 wins to their '05 record.
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I like HovanDenny Green is an overrated drafter. In Minnesota he could usually get some good offensive players like Moss and Culpeper but every time his defensive picks would bust Underwood, Hovan, 20 some odd LBs. He also had a fasination with selecting Standard players who always sucked
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Anybody who has paid any attention to the Cardinals franchise, even as a casual observer, knows they are NEVER a lock for the playoffs.Arizona is almost a lock for the playoffs this year.Bookmarking this thread. A draft day genius should be able to finish above .500 and make the playoffs after 3 drafts, no? Arizona needs to add 4 wins to their '05 record.
I'll check back in January.
I know its not January yet, but I'm thinking the playoffs are a bit of a reach right now. I don't think DGreen has earned a rep as 'genius' yet (draft day or otherwise).Bookmarking this thread. A draft day genius should be able to finish above .500 and make the playoffs after 3 drafts, no? Arizona needs to add 4 wins to their '05 record.I'll check back in January.
Yeah, at one point I entertained the idea that Denny Green was just drafting using the magazines and not doing any scouting.Another thing, is it just me, or does Denny Green always end up with the guys you read about in all your draft magazines as being a highly rated player and when draft day arrives he falls? (Which is why I was disappointed in the Cardinals missing out on Justice) Lots of guys dip in where they've been predicted to go but it seems every player Green drafts is one of the guys Kiper on D-day will end up saying this about ,"He was projected at one time to go in the x or maybe y round, but falls to Denny Green here."