No arguing that this guy is a quality coach and person, but he may be losing his job soon. The cardinals did not rebound from devastation Monday night, and I don't think the OC was the problem. The play calling did not look any different today it actually looked worse. Boldin did not catch any slants that were so effective against he Bears, and that would have been a valuable play to get the defense of Leinarts a#@. Leinart was under constant pressure and Denny and O line seem to be the problem. Denny did not motivate this team, and I feel if he is not fired this week he will be out sooner rather than later. I don't think he makes the season. It is a shame because I love the guy, but the Cards are terrible!!
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slayer666
Footballguy
He is only winning 31% of the time in Arizona.
FairWarning
Footballguy
That record is doing him no good in Arizona. They reverted to the "Bad Cardinals of years past" today.He is 12-27 in Arizona and are no better now than when he took over.his career W/L record is 113-97
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
I don't know about "no arguing."
PennStater77
Footballguy
What did you guys expect from him? He has two stud WR, but only they can do so much.
Lets' see.. Green has to work with. A rookie QB, A QB that is one good smach away from retirement, one of the most overrated running backs in the NFL, a horrible O-Line, Average Defense. Yeah it's all Greens's fault.
This is what morons get for predicting them to win 10-11 games just cause they signed James.
Lets' see.. Green has to work with. A rookie QB, A QB that is one good smach away from retirement, one of the most overrated running backs in the NFL, a horrible O-Line, Average Defense. Yeah it's all Greens's fault.
This is what morons get for predicting them to win 10-11 games just cause they signed James.
sorry, I believe it is fixed.
swidman
Footballguy
LMAO!!! This is the guy who had a penchant for fondling the female office staff in Minnesota.Yeah, he's a quality person.
Perhaps on the way out of Arizona they should "Crown his ###!".
FairWarning
Footballguy
Dennis Green is the NFL version of Dusty Baker.
Perry Van Hook
Footballguy
I doubt they will fire his fat ars during the season - the team is still a work in progress and while the coaching staff is partially his fault and his rant was stupid, what would be gained by changing coaches duiring the middle of a rebuilding (going into the Leinart era) year.
However he better get control of his team and have it ready to play the rest of their games or he won't be around to see them perform as a better team next year.
Without knowing what he and Rod Graves talked about in terms of O line personnel, we don't really know who is more to blame for not improving it substantially after last season, but it will be job one for either Green or a new HC after this season ends.
However he better get control of his team and have it ready to play the rest of their games or he won't be around to see them perform as a better team next year.
Without knowing what he and Rod Graves talked about in terms of O line personnel, we don't really know who is more to blame for not improving it substantially after last season, but it will be job one for either Green or a new HC after this season ends.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
He probably deserves to get the ax.
It's one thing to lose to Oakland. But to get blown out???
For those who didn't see it, the game was even more non-competitive than the final score would indicate. The most disturbing thing for Arizona fans - and the biggest indictment of Green - is that the Cards looked completely disinterested the entire afternoon.
It's one thing to lose to Oakland. But to get blown out???
For those who didn't see it, the game was even more non-competitive than the final score would indicate. The most disturbing thing for Arizona fans - and the biggest indictment of Green - is that the Cards looked completely disinterested the entire afternoon.
KiddLattimer
Footballguy
Not for nothing but Jim Fassel worked with the Cardinals before taking the Giants job.
I have no idea at all if he is even being looked at, but it wouldnt shock me to see Fassel take over if Green does get the Axe soon. The Cards offense reminds me a lot of the Giants of a few years ago... paper thin line and lots of "skill position" talent.
I have no idea at all if he is even being looked at, but it wouldnt shock me to see Fassel take over if Green does get the Axe soon. The Cards offense reminds me a lot of the Giants of a few years ago... paper thin line and lots of "skill position" talent.
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yeah you described some of Fassel's teams thoughI think Arizona needs to hire a top OL coach; over pay him to get him to come to the desert, give him complete control over OL personnel.If they can't get him, get Tice. He ran a great O Line for Denny for years
Polyethylene Bag
Footballguy
I've always believed that his team needs an O-line to win any games. It is Denny's fault for not addressing this at any point in the offseason. At some point, the sheriff has to take some responsibility.
flapgreen
Footballguy
LMAO!!! This is the guy who had a penchant for fondling the female office staff in Minnesota.Yeah, he's a quality person.
Perhaps on the way out of Arizona they should "Crown his ###!".
it's o-line coach that's the prob IMO
I disagreeI think if they address their OL issues, they will be right in the mix in theie division. They almost beat Da Bears, a team whose ###, everybody apparently wants to crown.That record is doing him no good in Arizona. They reverted to the "Bad Cardinals of years past" today.He is 12-27 in Arizona and are no better now than when he took over.his career W/L record is 113-97
mad sweeney
Footballguy
23 points against the best D in the game is "not scoring enough points" so Green cans the OC. Next week, against the worst team in the league they put up 9. Looks like the former OC's grievance arguments just got stronger.
ydub
Footballguy
I disagreeI think if they address their OL issues, they will be right in the mix in theie division. They almost beat Da Bears, a team whose ###, everybody apparently wants to crown.That record is doing him no good in Arizona. They reverted to the "Bad Cardinals of years past" today.He is 12-27 in Arizona and are no better now than when he took over.his career W/L record is 113-97
Green was "always" in the playoffs in Minny and IIRC he got canned after his first losing season.
"No one" wins in Arizona. I don't think teams will hold this against him but instead think he'll be scooped up pretty quick. For example, I'd expect Baltimore to actually get an offensive minded guy this time and hit up Martz or Denny(if available) before Ray Lewis turns 90.
"No one" wins in Arizona. I don't think teams will hold this against him but instead think he'll be scooped up pretty quick. For example, I'd expect Baltimore to actually get an offensive minded guy this time and hit up Martz or Denny(if available) before Ray Lewis turns 90.
nygiants56
Footballguy
TICE?!?!?!?
what has Mike Tice ever done, as a player or coach?!?!
you can do better than that..pay Charlie Weiss all the $$ he wants..he'll `coach up` any team..the guy is one of the best coaches,college or pros..there is a loopohole in his ND contract , but you'd have to pay thru the teeth to get him. It just might be worth it, in the end..
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Who the hell is "speculating" here? The poster? Lame title.
DerangedGridironGeek
Footballguy
Canning the OC was a BIG mistake and BIG overreaction. He did it to send a message to the team and to divert attention from his little tirade. IF anything, he should have canned the Special Teams coach. But to can your OC after he just spent most of the offseason with your rookie QB.....its pretty obvious the team didn't have faith in the new gameplan or this coaching staff. IMO, Green lost quite a few points after his little escapade and firing the OC made it worse.
azgroover
Footballguy
I'd rather keep Green than hire Weis. It would be like going from one Grimace to another. Besides, has Weis even won a big game yet at ND? I have yet to be dazzled by his coaching job there.TICE?!?!?!?
what has Mike Tice ever done, as a player or coach?!?!
you can do better than that..pay Charlie Weiss all the $$ he wants..he'll `coach up` any team..the guy is one of the best coaches,college or pros..there is a loopohole in his ND contract , but you'd have to pay thru the teeth to get him. It just might be worth it, in the end..
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
Yes, Green always took the Vikes to the playoffs, but they never made it past the first round. Those Vikes teams had great potential and should have gone to the SuperBowl a couple of times. Green is an underperformer...and he will never admit any thing was ever his fault.After the Chicago game last week, Arizona should have been pi**ed off and should have absolutely crushed the Raiders...rolling up the score up to the last play. They have packed it in for the rest of the year...
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Stinger Ray
Footballguy
I hope that was sarcasm.
KiddLattimer
Footballguy
Tice was a pretty good O-Line coach, just an awful head coach. I'm pretty sure the poster was not talking about the head coaching job.
mozzy84
Footballguy
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Tice appeared to be a good O-line coach because he consistently had good offensive line talent. Even in his years as head coach, he paid a lot of attention to and worked with the O-line. That did nothing for their performance last year though. Tice is overrated (yes, most people think he is a moron, but that is still overrated).
azgroover
Footballguy
He'll make for an excellent college coach (again). ####ty NFL coach though.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I agree with the combative guy.
FF Dude
Footballguy
Tice was pretty good in that Seahawks music video.TICE?!?!?!?
what has Mike Tice ever done, as a player or coach?!?!
you can do better than that..pay Charlie Weiss all the $$ he wants..he'll `coach up` any team..the guy is one of the best coaches,college or pros..there is a loopohole in his ND contract , but you'd have to pay thru the teeth to get him. It just might be worth it, in the end..
CA_7
Footballguy
redman
Footballguy
There was also a story when he was originally hired in Minny that his former mistress had had an abortion with his kid, dating to his Stanford coaching days.LMAO!!! This is the guy who had a penchant for fondling the female office staff in Minnesota.Yeah, he's a quality person.
Perhaps on the way out of Arizona they should "Crown his ###!".
I couldn't agree more. He lost his team in firing the OC. The offense not only put up the 23, but drove down in the waning minutes for the game winning kick against that great D. Granted the kick was missed, but the offense was stellar in that game. Okay, stellar is too strong, because there were the 2 Defensive TD's they gave up. And, you have the special teams TD (punt OB in that situation. Leave no chance for a return). But, hindsight is 20/20. Regardless, you don't fire the OC, the strength of your team. And, it showed. Look at that offensive performance. He's lost the team, and his firing would be justified.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
If they do fire him I hope they are ready for the inevitable media circus as the Rhymin Rev. Jessie Jackson decends on their town followed by Mr. Bad Hair himself, the Right Honorable Rev. Al Sharpton accompanied by his backup singers the ever harmonious Race Baiters.
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