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Derek Anderson and KW2 could be traded? (1 Viewer)

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According to the National Football Post's Michael Lombardi, the Browns will have Derek Anderson on the trading block "very soon."

With Anderson due a $5 million roster bonus in March, the Browns aren't likely to get a team enticed enough to bite. Bet on Anderson being released before his roster bonus is due, at which point he will be free to sign with a team of his choosing. | 1/8/2009 5:09:00 PM

Source: National Football Post

The National Football Post's Michael Lombardi believes the Browns will trade Kellen Winslow this offseason.

Winslow wore out his welcome with the previous regime, but Lombardi reports that he's also "not been a part of any discussions with coaching candidates." Whether he stays or goes, Winslow is going to be pushing hard for a contract extension. | 1/8/2009 5:05:00 PM

Source: National Football Post

 
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If id be the Buffalo Bills i would try to get both of them via trade .

Anderson would probably win the job over Edwards ( Better arm , has proven he can produce as a starting QB in this league , would be great for Evans finally a guy who can get the ball deep.

And add on Winslow , suddenly you have a dangerous offense .

This will never happen but would ba amazing.

 
Braylon may be too. Mangini just got hired, way too early to speculate on either him or Winslow. DA's been as good as gone since he hurt his knee in the Indy game.

 
Fingers crossed on Winslow to Philly.

I'd be surprised if Anderson was brought in anywhere as the starter. Maybe in an open competition, but no team will hand him a starting job.

 
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neither of these come as a suprise.

DA gone because of the number crunch, and KW2 gone because of attitude and contract demands.

i would bet on keeping Braylon though.

 
Fingers crossed on Winslow to Philly.

I'd be surprised if Anderson was brought in anywhere as the starter. Maybe in an open competition, but no team will hand him a starting job.
Vikings maybe?
As a Viking homer, we hope not for Anderson to land in MN.
Jar Jar, how can you speak for everyone else? DA is no Manning, but he is clearly better than the crap that is there now.
:thumbup:
 
Fingers crossed on Winslow to Philly.

I'd be surprised if Anderson was brought in anywhere as the starter. Maybe in an open competition, but no team will hand him a starting job.
Vikings maybe?
As a Viking homer, we hope not for Anderson to land in MN.
Jar Jar, how can you speak for everyone else? DA is no Manning, but he is clearly better than the crap that is there now.
:football:
:thumbup:
 
Anderson is fine... when his #1 reciever doesn't drop passes. You don't just randomly drop from an Elite season to nothing, Anderson has talent.

To their credit, the schedule was BRUTAL.

Dallas: 9-7 (Loss)

Pittsburgh: 12-4 (Loss)

Baltimore: 11-5 (Loss)

Bengals: 4-11-1 (Win)

Giants: 12-4 (Win)

Redskins: 8-8 (Loss)

Jacksonville: 5-11 (Win)

Baltimore: 11-5 (Loss)

Denver: 8-8 (Loss)

Buffalo: 7-9 (Win)

Houston: 8-8 (Loss)

Colts: 12-4 (Loss)

Titans: 13-3 (Loss)

Eagles: 9-6-1 (Loss)

Bengals: 4-11 (Loss)

Pittsburgh: 12-4 (Loss)

8 Games vs. Playoff Contenders.

1-7

Half of their schedule.

12 Games vs. Team w/ .500 or Winning Seasons.

1-10

3/4 of their schedule

4 Games vs. Teams w/ Losing Seasons.

3-1

1/4 of their schedule.

-

Honestly this season just shows their not a "playoff" team, but their not a losing team either. I believe the Browns are somewhere in the middle.

 
Fingers crossed on Winslow to Philly.

I'd be surprised if Anderson was brought in anywhere as the starter. Maybe in an open competition, but no team will hand him a starting job.
Vikings maybe?
As a Viking homer, we hope not for Anderson to land in MN.
Jar Jar, how can you speak for everyone else? DA is no Manning, but he is clearly better than the crap that is there now.
:thumbup:
:shrug:
:thumbup:
 
Fingers crossed on Winslow to Philly.

I'd be surprised if Anderson was brought in anywhere as the starter. Maybe in an open competition, but no team will hand him a starting job.
Vikings maybe?
As a Viking homer, we hope not for Anderson to land in MN.
Jar Jar, how can you speak for everyone else? DA is no Manning, but he is clearly better than the crap that is there now.
:no:
:yes:
:rolleyes:
:yes:
 
Eminence said:
Anderson is fine... when his #1 reciever doesn't drop passes. You don't just randomly drop from an Elite season to nothing, Anderson has talent.To their credit, the schedule was BRUTAL.Dallas: 9-7 (Loss)Pittsburgh: 12-4 (Loss)Baltimore: 11-5 (Loss)Bengals: 4-11-1 (Win)Giants: 12-4 (Win)Redskins: 8-8 (Loss)Jacksonville: 5-11 (Win)Baltimore: 11-5 (Loss)Denver: 8-8 (Loss)Buffalo: 7-9 (Win)Houston: 8-8 (Loss)Colts: 12-4 (Loss)Titans: 13-3 (Loss)Eagles: 9-6-1 (Loss)Bengals: 4-11 (Loss)Pittsburgh: 12-4 (Loss)8 Games vs. Playoff Contenders.1-7Half of their schedule.12 Games vs. Team w/ .500 or Winning Seasons.1-103/4 of their schedule4 Games vs. Teams w/ Losing Seasons.3-11/4 of their schedule.-Honestly this season just shows their not a "playoff" team, but their not a losing team either. I believe the Browns are somewhere in the middle.
He had a good season... calling DA elite is a stretch, a serious stretch.
 
After Quinn took the helm, and Edward still dropping more passes than he was catching, it seemed to me it was Edwards who cost DA his starting role.

 
Eminence said:
Honestly this season just shows their not a "playoff" team, but their not a losing team either. I believe the Browns are somewhere in the middle.
I don't mean to dump on the the Browns but they were 4-12 and went 6 consecutive games without scoring an offensive TD which is something even the 0-16 Lions couldn't do. In fact it is the longest streak at any point in any season since the Eagles posted a six-game streak 72 years ago.Things can change rapidly in the NFL and they could be in the playoffs next season but for now they are definitely a losing team and deserve to be considered one of the bottom dwellers of the NFL.
 
Stryker said:
Gopher State said:
Stryker said:
travdogg said:
Fingers crossed on Winslow to Philly.I'd be surprised if Anderson was brought in anywhere as the starter. Maybe in an open competition, but no team will hand him a starting job.
Vikings maybe?
As a Viking homer, we hope not for Anderson to land in MN.
ya, just throwin the name out there, I hope we look different ways before him, but who knows.
:shock: I would strongly prefer trading for/signing Derek Anderson in lieu of doing nothing; with that being said, there are a few other guys I would push for before settling for him; namely, McNabb, Hasselbeck, and maybe Bulger. But if none of the three mentioned are attainable and the price was right, I would take a look
 
Duke1948 said:
about 1 year late on anderson
:shock: DA is not a good QB, never again will he be anything like he was in 2007..Winslow is a good TE and all, but the dude can't stay healthy...neither has much value.. if you listen to NY talk radio, DA might wind up on the Jets... :D
 
San Francisco

KC

St. Louis

Detroit

Minnesota

Cardinals (as a successor to Kurt if they truly don't think Leinart's the future).

Seems like all of these teams ought to at least be considering DA. I was hoping Atlanta should get him prior to the Petrino debacle, but obviously happy with the way that eventually turned out. I'll go on the record as saying that I think DA will be a solid QB for someone.

 
Traders2001 said:
If id be the Buffalo Bills i would try to get both of them via trade .

Anderson would probably win the job over Edwards ( Better arm , has proven he can produce as a starting QB in this league , would be great for Evans finally a guy who can get the ball deep.

And add on Winslow , suddenly you have a dangerous offense .

This will never happen but would ba amazing.
Personally I think Edwards is a better QB and has better long term potential.
 
Jeff Garcia...looked like crap in Cleveland but has looked pretty decent in Tampa. Despite the pitiful offensive output, both Anderson and Winslow will get a pass for having been in Cleveland and will be given a chance somewhere else.

If you've proven you can do it once, you're going to get a second and even third chance in the NFL. Anderson gets signed to compete for a job or to back someone up...but he's not going to be signed for starter money. I think Winslow probably comes out of it with someone throwing some pretty big money at him.

 
Traders2001 said:
If id be the Buffalo Bills i would try to get both of them via trade .

Anderson would probably win the job over Edwards ( Better arm , has proven he can produce as a starting QB in this league , would be great for Evans finally a guy who can get the ball deep.

And add on Winslow , suddenly you have a dangerous offense .

This will never happen but would ba amazing.
Personally I think Edwards is a better QB and has better long term potential.
really edwards looked very average to me this season I dont think either guy is going to mount to much actually

 
amnesiac said:
neither of these come as a suprise.DA gone because of the number crunch, and KW2 gone because of attitude and contract demands.i would bet on keeping Braylon though.
:lmao: IMO...Anderson won't be traded but released.Winslow will be traded.Edwards won't be traded.
 
What could they get for a couple of players like that ? If we pretend its going to happen.
I would be happy if DA fetched a 3rd...but I think it'll be more like a 4th/5th conditional pick.KW could fetch a 2nd/3rd based on talent. I'd like to see him stay in Cleveland, but I'm not certain if that will happen. I guess time will tell with this new regime.
 
After Quinn took the helm, and Edward still dropping more passes than he was catching, it seemed to me it was Edwards who cost DA his starting role.
I got laughed at when I wrote that in November, glad to see others are finally taking note.
 
KC should get him as a #2 QB

Let Thigpen continue to start, but have the vet QB backup. Draft a QB in the 3rd/4th to groom...

 
I would not give up hardly anything for either of those guys. DA has some nice attributes but was considered as a not very consistent QB coming out of college. I think he still has a place in the NFL but was given too much money after a year of success. That contact would have to go.

KWII is a really good pass catcher but he is hurt A LOT and is also a distraction. I really would have no interest in the soap opera that is KWII.

 
San Francisco

KC

St. Louis

Detroit

Minnesota

Cardinals (as a successor to Kurt if they truly don't think Leinart's the future).

Seems like all of these teams ought to at least be considering DA. I was hoping Atlanta should get him prior to the Petrino debacle, but obviously happy with the way that eventually turned out. I'll go on the record as saying that I think DA will be a solid QB for someone.
My thoughts...SF needs some stability at the QB position. Hill isn't sexy but played pretty well once he started (13 tds/8 ints in 9 games).

KC maybe. Say what you will about him but the offense was more lively with him. He wasn't as productive late in the seas as he was early but still. (18 tds/12 ints)

STL maybe. If nothing else, someone to compete with Bulger. The passing game is in transition with older players, like Holt, giving way to a youth movement.

Detroit? Hell yes.

Minnesota? Hell yes.

Cardinals? I don't think they are ready to ditch Leinart.

With what Miami showed in signing Pennington - even the worst teams can be fixed with a decent QB - the front offices of a number of franchises could make a play for a vet qb like DA. atlanta and baltimore notwithstanding, rookie experiments are proving expensive both in terms of $$ and in W's.

 
Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain Dealer believes that the Browns may have to choose between keeping Braylon Edwards or Kellen Winslow in 2009.

Edwards and Winslow's outspokenness will not mesh with coach Eric Mangini's disciplinary style and both receivers are in search of raises. Edwards is the more valuable player, but will likely cost more than Winslow. Still, it shouldn't be surprising if both are on the trade block this offseason. Jan. 9 - 12:02 pm et

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

 
If Im cleveland I dont trade anyone except DA. Keep winslow and braylon

trade DA to detroit seems like a move the lions would make, very scott mitchell esque

 
I wonder how the writer can say for sure about these 2 when there isn't even a GM hired yet. :unsure:
It adds to the appearance that the Browns are a dysfunctional franchise. Unless of course they've already lined up the GM they wanted all along, which doesn't seem to be the case. Most clubs hire the GM and he makes these calls. Not sure how many GMs would want to step in here when these decisions are already made in advance, if the report has any validity. In the end, this could really be about Randy Lerner learning on-the-job about how to be an NFL owner.
 
Way to go Cleveland, trading both of these guys when their value is at rock bottom. K2 has the body of a 15 year old veteran and the mind of a 12 year old. DA's trade value went from Casselesque last year to Carrish now. Between moves like this and hiring a coach who just had his team implode in NY the Browns have cemented their cellar position for a few more years. Congrats.

 
After Quinn took the helm, and Edward still dropping more passes than he was catching, it seemed to me it was Edwards who cost DA his starting role.
I got laughed at when I wrote that in November, glad to see others are finally taking note.
Anderson is what cost Anderson his job. Lack of accuracy and consistency did him in, not some drops. He just isn't accurate enough, at least right now, to be more than a journeyman QB.I think Edwards (and Winslow) made Anderson in the first place.
 
I really don't think Anderson's $5 mil contract is all that bad when you consider how many QBs get hurt every year. We all saw what happened when Dorsey had to start. With Quinn being unproven, they would be wise to keep Anderson.

 
I really don't think Anderson's $5 mil contract is all that bad when you consider how many QBs get hurt every year. We all saw what happened when Dorsey had to start. With Quinn being unproven, they would be wise to keep Anderson.
:goodposting: Unless there are some locker room issues that we don't know about, I don't see the value in trading him. Last year, yes. This year, no.
 
Anthony Borbely said:
After Quinn took the helm, and Edward still dropping more passes than he was catching, it seemed to me it was Edwards who cost DA his starting role.
I got laughed at when I wrote that in November, glad to see others are finally taking note.
Anderson is what cost Anderson his job. Lack of accuracy and consistency did him in, not some drops. He just isn't accurate enough, at least right now, to be more than a journeyman QB.I think Edwards (and Winslow) made Anderson in the first place.
I don't disagree with that, still doesn't take away the fact that if we got 2007 Braylon Edwards DA would not have lost his job as early as he did, if he had lost it at all. Things like putting touch on short passes and crumbling under pressure are probably things he will never get past.
 
Anthony Borbely said:
After Quinn took the helm, and Edward still dropping more passes than he was catching, it seemed to me it was Edwards who cost DA his starting role.
I got laughed at when I wrote that in November, glad to see others are finally taking note.
Anderson is what cost Anderson his job. Lack of accuracy and consistency did him in, not some drops. He just isn't accurate enough, at least right now, to be more than a journeyman QB.I think Edwards (and Winslow) made Anderson in the first place.
I don't disagree with that, still doesn't take away the fact that if we got 2007 Braylon Edwards DA would not have lost his job as early as he did, if he had lost it at all. Things like putting touch on short passes and crumbling under pressure are probably things he will never get past.
I don't know if I can agree with that. Anderson was brutal regardless of Edwards.
 
Way to go Cleveland, trading both of these guys when their value is at rock bottom. K2 has the body of a 15 year old veteran and the mind of a 12 year old. DA's trade value went from Casselesque last year to Carrish now. Between moves like this and hiring a coach who just had his team implode in NY the Browns have cemented their cellar position for a few more years. Congrats.
:goodposting:
 
Fingers crossed on Winslow to Philly.I'd be surprised if Anderson was brought in anywhere as the starter. Maybe in an open competition, but no team will hand him a starting job.
Vikings maybe?
As a Viking homer, we hope not for Anderson to land in MN.
Jar Jar, how can you speak for everyone else? DA is no Manning, but he is clearly better than the crap that is there now.
Jar Jar :goodposting:
 

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