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Derek Anderson.. not just bad (1 Viewer)

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I was surprised by this statistic in an ESPN article: http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4616312

According to STATS LLC, his 36.2 QB rating is the lowest of any player through eight weeks since Oakland's Marc Wilson in 1981. Also, Anderson's 320 yards passing in the past four games are the fewest by any quarterback with a minimum of 80 attempts since Chicago's Vince Evans in '81.
Apparently DA is the worst QB through the first half of a season in nearly 30 years?!?Can any of you stat nuts out there put DAs performance thus far in perspective with some other numbers...

 
I was surprised by this statistic in an ESPN article: http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4616312

According to STATS LLC, his 36.2 QB rating is the lowest of any player through eight weeks since Oakland's Marc Wilson in 1981. Also, Anderson's 320 yards passing in the past four games are the fewest by any quarterback with a minimum of 80 attempts since Chicago's Vince Evans in '81.
Apparently DA is the worst QB through the first half of a season in nearly 30 years?!?Can any of you stat nuts out there put DAs performance thus far in perspective with some other numbers...
why look at through 8 weeks when he didn't play the first 3?
 
for what it's worth, Derek Anderson didn't praise his own performance the way JaMarcus Russell did.
DA: CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT2009 66 154 681 42.9 4.42 43 2 9 9 36.2JR: CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT2009 88 182 1000 48.4 5.50 86 2 9 23 48.3Both these guys are horrendous and it's pretty shocking that they have a job. I guess it's cool DA didn't praise his own performance but when your mentioned in the same sentence as J Russell you know your terrible.
 
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for what it's worth, Derek Anderson didn't praise his own performance the way JaMarcus Russell did.
DA: CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT2009 66 154 681 42.9 4.42 43 2 9 9 36.2JR: CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT2009 88 182 1000 48.4 5.50 86 2 9 23 48.3Both these guys are horrendous and it's pretty shocking that they have a job. I guess it's cool DA didn't praise his own performance but when your mentioned in the same sentence as J Russell you know your terrible.
jamarcus thinks it's pretty good to be mentioned in the same sentence as jamarcus
 
As someone who has actually had to sit and watch a couple of Browns games this year I have to say that they are by far the worst team in football and replacing Derek Anderson is hardly the problem. Yes, he is horrible and apparently historically so (nice call), but the entire team is an absolute joke. Top to bottom. Offense and defense. Players, coaches, and front office. There is nothing good to say about this organization at all.

Oakland may be bad, and Tampa might not have a win, but I guarantee the fans in Cleveland would switch places with them in a second.

 
As someone who has actually had to sit and watch a couple of Browns games this year I have to say that they are by far the worst team in football and replacing Derek Anderson is hardly the problem. Yes, he is horrible and apparently historically so (nice call), but the entire team is an absolute joke. Top to bottom. Offense and defense. Players, coaches, and front office. There is nothing good to say about this organization at all.Oakland may be bad, and Tampa might not have a win, but I guarantee the fans in Cleveland would switch places with them in a second.
Oakland, Tampa, and Cleveland are all terrible and this is quite obvious. I agree that Derek Anderson is not the entire problem but this guy needs to be benched. The only thing he brings to the table that brady quinn doesn't, is the deep ball and he rarely completes it. Outside of that, Brady Quinn is the better qb and it's not close. DA just isn't accurate. This may same like an oxymoron, but if he were more accurate he'd be throwing even more picks! When him and Russell miss, they miss so badly that it's hard for the other team to make a play on the ball. I think that's the only reason that him and Russell aren't leading the league in picks. And if Anderson had been starting the entire season, he probably would be leading the league in picks right now.
 
I wonder if the Browns fans who mocked me (to be clear : some didn't and actually agreed) for saying they should have jumped all over Parcells' rumored offer of a 2nd and 5th rounder for DA a couple years ago wish they'd made that move now.

Bracie? Where are you ? :crickets:

 
I wonder if the Browns fans who mocked me (to be clear : some didn't and actually agreed) for saying they should have jumped all over Parcells' rumored offer of a 2nd and 5th rounder for DA a couple years ago wish they'd made that move now.Bracie? Where are you ? :crickets:
The Browns didn't have a franchise QB so I think there is more value in keeping a 24-year old QB with promise to see if he develops into one rather then immediately shuttling him elsewhere for a 2nd and 5th, even if that meant his value plummeted. There's an opportunity cost in trading him away that you aren't factoring in.
 
I wonder if the Browns fans who mocked me (to be clear : some didn't and actually agreed) for saying they should have jumped all over Parcells' rumored offer of a 2nd and 5th rounder for DA a couple years ago wish they'd made that move now.Bracie? Where are you ? :crickets:
The Browns didn't have a franchise QB so I think there is more value in keeping a 24-year old QB with promise to see if he develops into one rather then immediately shuttling him elsewhere for a 2nd and 5th, even if that meant his value plummeted. There's an opportunity cost in trading him away that you aren't factoring in.
But they kind of did - Brady Quinn. If he's not a franchise QB, they didn't know this at the time, and had invested a lot in him by trading up to get him in the first round. The reason I'd suggested making the trade is because I felt like the numbers DA put up were misleading. He racked up some stats, but every time I saw him play on big drives or in pressure situations, I saw him bouncing a lot of passes and throwing a lot of balls over the heads of open receivers or at their feet. I felt he was very flawed and was being overvalued tremendously. With a 1st round pick on the bench (making 1st round money) - I felt like his value was maxed out and that they should have traded him for a premium price (a 2nd and 5th is nothing to sneeze at, especially since the 2nd rounder would have been a very early 2nd.) This would have precipitated the start of the Quinn era, which was inevitable anyway, and I wonder if Quinn might have been a better QB if he wasn't looking over his shoulder for the hook every game.As a Steelers fan, I'm glad it worked out this way, but if I were Savage at the time, I'd have jumped all over that offer. I'm still amazed that Savage and Parcells both saw something I didn't see in Anderson and ignored (I guess) the things I DID see. Hell, those guys get paid (or did) to make those decisions and I'm just a shmuck watching on TV, but I was definitely right on this one and they weren't.
 
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I wonder if the Browns fans who mocked me (to be clear : some didn't and actually agreed) for saying they should have jumped all over Parcells' rumored offer of a 2nd and 5th rounder for DA a couple years ago wish they'd made that move now.Bracie? Where are you ? :crickets:
The Browns didn't have a franchise QB so I think there is more value in keeping a 24-year old QB with promise to see if he develops into one rather then immediately shuttling him elsewhere for a 2nd and 5th, even if that meant his value plummeted. There's an opportunity cost in trading him away that you aren't factoring in.
But they kind of did - Brady Quinn. If he's not a franchise QB, they didn't know this at the time, and had invested a lot in him by trading up to get him in the first round. The reason I'd suggested making the trade is because I felt like the numbers DA put up were misleading. He racked up some stats, but every time I saw him play on big drives or in pressure situations, I saw him bouncing a lot of passes and throwing a lot of balls over the heads of open receivers or at their feet. I felt he was very flawed and was being overvalued tremendously. With a 1st round pick on the bench (making 1st round money) - I felt like his value was maxed out and that they should have traded him for a premium price (a 2nd and 5th is nothing to sneeze at, especially since the 2nd rounder would have been a very early 2nd.) This would have precipitated the start of the Quinn era, which was inevitable anyway, and I wonder if Quinn might have been a better QB if he wasn't looking over his shoulder for the hook every game.As a Steelers fan, I'm glad it worked out this way, but if I were Savage at the time, I'd have jumped all over that offer. I'm still amazed that Savage and Parcells both saw something I didn't see in Anderson and ignored (I guess) the things I DID see. Hell, those guys get paid (or did) to make those decisions and I'm just a shmuck watching on TV, but I was definitely right on this one and they weren't.
Well certainly if in your assessment you had made up your mind that DA was not going to ever be the franchise QB after seeing his 2007 season, I can understand trading him. Obviously you had a good eye on that one.
 
I wonder if the Browns fans who mocked me (to be clear : some didn't and actually agreed) for saying they should have jumped all over Parcells' rumored offer of a 2nd and 5th rounder for DA a couple years ago wish they'd made that move now.
I don't recall this.I remember it being that DA was a restricted FA in '07 and the Browns (Savage) was 'forced' to sign him to a multiyear deal (rather than the 1-year tender offer they had already offered him). Savage was afraid the Cowboys were going to sign DA for more than they could offer and trade him to Miami (where Parcells was rumored to want him) in order to move up in the draft and select McFadden.

Of course, now in hindsight, Savage got bent over on that one too as the Browns would have received the Cowboys 1st and 3rd rounders as compensation.

 
I wonder if the Browns fans who mocked me (to be clear : some didn't and actually agreed) for saying they should have jumped all over Parcells' rumored offer of a 2nd and 5th rounder for DA a couple years ago wish they'd made that move now.
I don't recall this.I remember it being that DA was a restricted FA in '07 and the Browns (Savage) was 'forced' to sign him to a multiyear deal (rather than the 1-year tender offer they had already offered him). Savage was afraid the Cowboys were going to sign DA for more than they could offer and trade him to Miami (where Parcells was rumored to want him) in order to move up in the draft and select McFadden.

Of course, now in hindsight, Savage got bent over on that one too as the Browns would have received the Cowboys 1st and 3rd rounders as compensation.
If that's the case, it's even worse than I thought. God, they could have made out like bandits there.
 

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