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Derek Anderson starting for Browns Sunday (1 Viewer)
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KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Can't be any worse than Brady.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
I'm very much looking forward to the day Eric Mangini gets fired.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
upgrade Braylon?
cincy D? anderson loves to throw picks
cincy D? anderson loves to throw picks
DawgPoundNJ
Footballguy
I absolutely disagree. Anderson is one of the all-time greats at it and really can't get any better.
Indeed as it can't get much worse. But i'll take it as I must play him this week.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
There's not much "high reward" with Anderson. IMO he's still WW fodder.
He does dumb things. A lot. It's painful to watch.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Note to self, stay away from Jimmy Clausen in drafts next year. ND QB's are the stink.
I really thought Quinn would be a sleeper this year. He is just not good.
I really thought Quinn would be a sleeper this year. He is just not good.
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Footballguy
Not in 12 team leagues that start 2 QB's
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Oh yes it can. In fact, Anderson WAS worse than Brady in this weekend's game.
Wilbur Wood
Footballguy
I really don't understand at all as to why Mangini would be disclosing this key bit of tactical data now on Wednesday. Isn't the "smart" move to simply say nothing until game day and make the Bengals prepare for both Quinn and Anderson thereby diluting their prep time???
daveR
Footballguy
Yeah. BQ has some Tim Couch in him. He's a good leader, a quality person, but seems to read the field in a snapshot manner. (Just) IMO, he doesn't have a feel for the dynamic, changing part of a defense. I expect this can be learned with experience, though.
daveR
Footballguy
He may have been worse than Brady, but he moved the Browns better than Quinn. He was better.
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Let me know when Brady Quinn throws for 3800 yards and 29 TDs in a season.
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Footballguy
As soon as he has Edwards and Winslow making totally unbelievable catches on balls no where near them to pad his stats.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Not really.
PatrickT
Footballguy
I guess I'm the only one who thinks this is a good move, and not just by default. I thought they should've gone Anderson in the first place, and played Quinn only because of his draft position. Yeah, he throws plenty of picks, but he also threw 29 TDs and won 10 games when he played a full season. I'm not putting too much stock into the last half of that game that was already pretty much out of hand, and he had to come out slinging from the word go. I think Derek gives them a much better shot at winning.
TLEF316
Footballguy
i was never a big BQ fan. Just look at the type of throws he made at ND. people like to make a big deal about Weiss being some sort of QB guru. But most of Quinn's "big plays" for the Irish were just jump balls to Samardja, which he usually caught over 5'9 DB's from Stanford and the service academies.He's following the same pattern with Clausen (all they did was throw lobs to Floyd before he got hurt). Weiss' self proclaimed "decided schematic advantage" is nothing more than a good college QB throwing fade routes to phsyically superior WR's against mostly inferior competition. IMO, he's not teaching his QB's to make NFL type throws. They're gonna suffer for it as long as he's there (which might not be too much longer)
Jason Wood
Zoo York
This would be the same guy who a) couldn't beat out said Brady Quinn in camp this year and b ) is a career sub 55% passer, right?
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Footballguy
YES really.3800 yards and 29 TD's is nothing to sneeze at.Again - I'm in a 12 team league that starts 2 QB's. They are very much in demand.Not really.
Ben Stiller
Footballguy
I found that interesting too. What happened to that "competitive advantage"? Mangini's days are numbered.
PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
I'm not going to argue one way or the other but having Anderson in is definitely a slight upgrade for all Browns skill players. That may be from unrosterable to only start out of desperation, but it is still an upgrade. This is because he is just a different kind of horrible than Quinn.
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pantherclub
Footballguy
I would absolutely love to see Derek Anderson winging it out to Steve smith on the Panthers.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Wait, are we debating whether Anderson is an improvement to the Browns FANTASY chances or whether he's going to help them win more games? I'm arguing the latter, not the former.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Not to mention this is the same guy who couldn't beat out Charlie Frye in 2007.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Let me know anything in our little string of posts here that has to do with fantasy.Of course in your league DA becomes valuable, just as Quinn was on your draft day.The problem is, the people that point to 2007 don't like to talk about 2008 and alot of the poor play in 2007. It's a fact.edit: and obviously I didn't remember your post up above about your 12 team league. I'm not tracking your posts and teams. What you quoted here was not fantasy related, IMO.YES really.3800 yards and 29 TD's is nothing to sneeze at.Again - I'm in a 12 team league that starts 2 QB's. They are very much in demand.Not really.
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This I will agree with, well except for Royal and Furrey. So for the ones that matter anyway, yes, I believe it's at least a slight upgrade for Braylon and the RBs.
PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
I usually look at the shark pool from a fantasy perspective.As far as who is better in real world production, I guess that depends on if you would rather turn it over on downs or by interceptions.
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Footballguy
Same here.Browns will be down a lot and DA will let it rip.I usually look at the shark pool from a fantasy perspective.
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Footballguy
Exactamundo.I lost Leftwich and picked up DA
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Yeah the decision to go with the 1st rounder over the 6th rounder is never political. Absolutely based on talent/results alone. If that's your best argument, you might as well just stop now.
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KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Let's not forget that Derek Anderson couldn't "beat" Charlie Frye in camp either. How did that work out?
I've had the DA 2007 argument a number of times.
He's Jake Delhomme, he can hand off and go to his first read and he's got good arm strength. Other than that, his short passing accuracy bites and he doesn't throw the ball away. It's really that simple. He's a borderline NFL backup.
The trouble is that in 2007 he accumulated enough stats to make people think he's more than he is.
As to his 2007 stats, in 6 games against CIN, MIA, STL, HOU, ARI, and CIN (All terrible defenses that year). He threw 1629 YDs (avg 271/g), 14 TDs and 8 INTs.
In the remaining 12 games he was 2158 YDs (avg 179/g) 15 TDs 11 INTs.
He feasted on an easy schedule and was a 44 C% in the 12 tough games. 63 C% in the 6 cupcakes.
For fantasy, he's a bye week replacement against a bad defense, obviously. But he's not the franchise answer that he was thought to be going into 2008.
He's Jake Delhomme, he can hand off and go to his first read and he's got good arm strength. Other than that, his short passing accuracy bites and he doesn't throw the ball away. It's really that simple. He's a borderline NFL backup.
The trouble is that in 2007 he accumulated enough stats to make people think he's more than he is.
As to his 2007 stats, in 6 games against CIN, MIA, STL, HOU, ARI, and CIN (All terrible defenses that year). He threw 1629 YDs (avg 271/g), 14 TDs and 8 INTs.
In the remaining 12 games he was 2158 YDs (avg 179/g) 15 TDs 11 INTs.
He feasted on an easy schedule and was a 44 C% in the 12 tough games. 63 C% in the 6 cupcakes.
For fantasy, he's a bye week replacement against a bad defense, obviously. But he's not the franchise answer that he was thought to be going into 2008.
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KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
So your argument is that even against defenses that aren't terrible, he's still decent?
If 179 YD/g and 44 C% is decent, then yea.So your argument is that even against defenses that aren't terrible, he's still decent?
PatrickT
Footballguy
It was also his first year as a starter. I'm not calling him the saviour, but I think he can be a solid NFL starter. I don't know if he can do it on the Browns, but we'll see.
PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
He should have been cut in favor of Bartel.
amnesiac
beer is good
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