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DeSean Jackson Released by the Eagles (1 Viewer)

The Panthers don't currently have a ton of cap room either, and I don't think that Jackson will (initially) take too kindly to a significant pay cut.

 
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The first thing this guy did when he signed his big contract with the Eagles a few years back was start a rap music business. That pretty much tells you where is mind is at.

 
Touchdown There said:
The first thing this guy did when he signed his big contract with the Eagles a few years back was start a rap music business. That pretty much tells you where is mind is at.
WTF? He invested in a business. Would it have been more acceptable to you if he opened up an Abercrombie & Fitch?

 
Touchdown There said:
The first thing this guy did when he signed his big contract with the Eagles a few years back was start a rap music business. That pretty much tells you where is mind is at.
WTF? He invested in a business. Would it have been more acceptable to you if he opened up an Abercrombie & Fitch?
You are in the bottom five of worst posters on this board. If what I said does not mean anything to you, ignore it. I am not going to explain to you the idiocy involved.

 
Touchdown There said:
The first thing this guy did when he signed his big contract with the Eagles a few years back was start a rap music business. That pretty much tells you where is mind is at.
WTF? He invested in a business. Would it have been more acceptable to you if he opened up an Abercrombie & Fitch?
You are in the bottom five of worst posters on this board. If what I said does not mean anything to you, ignore it. I am not going to explain to you the idiocy involved.
Ironic coming from you.

But I'd love to hear why investing in a record label is idiocy, and what it should tell us about where Jackson's head is at. Would it have been a better move to blow the cash on cars and partying? Or is it just the fact that the business in question is a rap label that makes it so offensive?

 
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2014/03/eagles_desean_jackson_off-the-field_troubles.html

DeSean Jackson's gang connections troubling to Eagles

...At 27, Jackson is coming off one of the best seasons of his career -- 82 catches for 1,332 yards and nine touchdowns. Plus, he's a playmaker who should thrive for seasons to come in head coach Chip Kelly's fast-paced offense.

Yet the Eagles' apparent interest in jettisoning Jackson likely has little to do with his performance on the field or a big-money contract that could squeeze the team's salary cap. Rather, sources close to Jackson and within the Eagles' organization say, it's Jackson's off-field behavior that concerns the front office. A bad attitude, an inconsistent work ethic, missed meetings and a lack of chemistry with head coach Chip Kelly are the reasons, sources told NJ.com. And when the Eagles looked more deeply into why Jackson was missing meetings, they found that his friends were becoming a more powerful -- and negative -- influence in his life.

Now the Eagles have even more serious concerns -- Jackson's continued association with reputed Los Angeles street gang members who have been connected to two homicides since 2010....
Go to the link for the rest of the story.

 
Touchdown There said:
The first thing this guy did when he signed his big contract with the Eagles a few years back was start a rap music business. That pretty much tells you where is mind is at.
WTF? He invested in a business. Would it have been more acceptable to you if he opened up an Abercrombie & Fitch?
Yeah because calling women "hos and beetches" and using the "n" word is the same as selling clothing. Yup, same thing....some of you guys should read some of the crap u post.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
if the dudes a crip or a blood or whatever, think anyone touches him?
I posted something similar in the other DJax thread, but I'm guessing we're looking at the something along the lines of a Hernandez trajectory if the gang stuff is true. I am NOT implying he's going to murder someone (allegedly) at all, so don't get hung up on that. But, if the gang stuff is true, no reason to think something bad doesn't happen in the near future, or it affects his day-to-day football focus to where it's a huge negative.

 
There is a lot to unpack here. First the facts, uncovered by Eliot Shorr-Parks and A.J. Perez:

Jackson was contacted by an LAPD detective seeking information on a 2010 gang-related murder in Los Angeles. Jackson was not a suspect, but police believe he may have had information about a suspect in the murder, Theron Shakir. Shakir, a purported Crips member, is a rapper who has worked on Jackson's record label, and the two have been photographed together. (Shakir was acquitted of the murder.)

In 2012, another gang-related murder took place outside a party in Los Angeles. The building was owned or leased by a member of Jackson's family, and some documents belonging to him were found inside. Police attempted to contact Jackson, who was not a suspect, but were unable to get in touch with him.

Jackson had a previously unreported arrest in 2009 for marijuana possession, tinted windows, and disturbing the peace.

Then, there are the implications. The LAPD detective, Eric Crosson, clearly believes Jackson himself is part of the Crips gang. His evidence includes Jackson throwing up supposed Crip gang signs in photos, even on the field in NFL games. Also, the name of Jackson's record label—Jaccpot—because, according to Crosson, "Crips avoid putting a 'C' next to a 'K' because in gangspeak, that stands for 'Crip Killer.'"

According to Shorr-Parks and Perez, the Eagles are concerned that all of this has the potential for a very bad situation. They don't have to say it outright, since everyone else will, but Aaron Hernandez is on everyone's mind.

The timing of Jackson's release can't be a coincidence. The Eagles knew this story was coming. Once it was published, Jackson's trade value would become zero. (Or, more sinisterly, the "sources within the Eagles organization" that contributed to this story did so to publicly justify Jackson's release.)
 
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Touchdown There said:
The first thing this guy did when he signed his big contract with the Eagles a few years back was start a rap music business. That pretty much tells you where is mind is at.
WTF? He invested in a business. Would it have been more acceptable to you if he opened up an Abercrombie & Fitch?
You are in the bottom five of worst posters on this board. If what I said does not mean anything to you, ignore it. I am not going to explain to you the idiocy involved.
Ironic coming from you.

But I'd love to hear why investing in a record label is idiocy, and what it should tell us about where Jackson's head is at. Would it have been a better move to blow the cash on cars and partying? Or is it just the fact that the business in question is a rap label that makes it so offensive?
Nobody _______ cares. Let's talk fantasy.

 
Touchdown There said:
The first thing this guy did when he signed his big contract with the Eagles a few years back was start a rap music business. That pretty much tells you where is mind is at.
To say that was indicative of being low character or possible criminal activity is pretty offensive. Even if the facts as we know them support your prejudice.

 
Lot of pissing going on in this thread...

I think it's fair to say Jackson comes with character concerns. To what extent, I don't really know and likely nobody else does either. He's a talented player who can make a difference on a WR needy team and that's all I really care about right now. I'd love for Car to sign him to a 1 year prove it deal. I'm not sure that's realistic. It would be ideal, though.

 
Lot of pissing going on in this thread...

I think it's fair to say Jackson comes with character concerns. To what extent, I don't really know and likely nobody else does either. He's a talented player who can make a difference on a WR needy team and that's all I really care about right now. I'd love for Car to sign him to a 1 year prove it deal. I'm not sure that's realistic. It would be ideal, though.
Outside of Jackson himself a close friend or two, wouldnt you agree that the people who know best are more then likely the ones who used to employ him?

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
if the dudes a crip or a blood or whatever, think anyone touches him?
Well the fact there were no rumors of teams being in trade talks with the Eagles for him kinda speaks volumes. You almost ALWAYS get leaks out to the media about high profile players being invovled in trade talks & the teams involved.

There were zero of that ( with other teams involved ). That either says they were not trying to move him or other teams are scared of what is really going on ( that being the reason the birds released him ).

That nj.com article really brought a lot of things to light, scary #### too especially after the Hernandez fiasco.

 
Lot of pissing going on in this thread...I think it's fair to say Jackson comes with character concerns. To what extent, I don't really know and likely nobody else does either. He's a talented player who can make a difference on a WR needy team and that's all I really care about right now. I'd love for Car to sign him to a 1 year prove it deal. I'm not sure that's realistic. It would be ideal, though.
Outside of Jackson himself a close friend or two, wouldnt you agree that the people who know best are more then likely the ones who used to employ him?
I'm sure the Eagles know. I'm not referring to them. I'm referring to the people posting here. If we have some Eagles staffers on the board that's excellent!
 
Lot of pissing going on in this thread...

I think it's fair to say Jackson comes with character concerns. To what extent, I don't really know and likely nobody else does either. He's a talented player who can make a difference on a WR needy team and that's all I really care about right now. I'd love for Car to sign him to a 1 year prove it deal. I'm not sure that's realistic. It would be ideal, though.
Yes, a premier talent was released for "character concerns".

The extent is clearly known by several (Eagles and FBI to name a couple) and appears to be beyond unacceptable behavior for an employee in the NFL.

 
So by cutting him, the Eagles are trying to be proactive against any bad publicity? Is this the only reason? Was he a threat to teammates?

Doesn't make a lot of sense, since it looks like they ate half of his salary. Why not keep him, if/when he screws up, then cut him.

 
So by cutting him, the Eagles are trying to be proactive against any bad publicity? Is this the only reason? Was he a threat to teammates?

Doesn't make a lot of sense, since it looks like they ate half of his salary. Why not keep him, if/when he screws up, then cut him.
Agreed.

 
It would be hilarious if he went to NE now that every Jets fan thinks they will make a run for him.

 
Lot of pissing going on in this thread...I think it's fair to say Jackson comes with character concerns. To what extent, I don't really know and likely nobody else does either. He's a talented player who can make a difference on a WR needy team and that's all I really care about right now. I'd love for Car to sign him to a 1 year prove it deal. I'm not sure that's realistic. It would be ideal, though.
Outside of Jackson himself a close friend or two, wouldnt you agree that the people who know best are more then likely the ones who used to employ him?
I'm sure the Eagles know. I'm not referring to them. I'm referring to the people posting here. If we have some Eagles staffers on the board that's excellent!
IMO there's got to be more to this than what's currently being reported. I'm guessing DeSean Jackson isn't the only player in the NFL running with a bad crowd when he's away from the team. A lot of them miss meetings and gripe about their contracts, too. Not too many Pro Bowlers just get cut outright, though.

 
so now I'm hearing what a classy, standup organization philly is, when presumably, if they would have gotten a guppy, they would have traded him in the last month.

Which one do we do?

 
So by cutting him, the Eagles are trying to be proactive against any bad publicity? Is this the only reason? Was he a threat to teammates?

Doesn't make a lot of sense, since it looks like they ate half of his salary. Why not keep him, if/when he screws up, then cut him.
Be more specific when you say "screws up"

 
Doesn't make a lot of sense, since it looks like they ate half of his salary. Why not keep him, if/when he screws up, then cut him.
They ate the prorated portion of his signing bonus. There was very little guaranteed salary left (<1m).

It's possible this PR stuff never would have come up if not for the Eagles cutting him. Certainly not as much hot air as the Riley Cooper stuff last year.

It was just the cherry on top of an already strained relationship (contract demands, scheme fit, possibility of dogging it).

 
Lot of pissing going on in this thread...I think it's fair to say Jackson comes with character concerns. To what extent, I don't really know and likely nobody else does either. He's a talented player who can make a difference on a WR needy team and that's all I really care about right now. I'd love for Car to sign him to a 1 year prove it deal. I'm not sure that's realistic. It would be ideal, though.
Outside of Jackson himself a close friend or two, wouldnt you agree that the people who know best are more then likely the ones who used to employ him?
I'm sure the Eagles know. I'm not referring to them. I'm referring to the people posting here. If we have some Eagles staffers on the board that's excellent!
IMO there's got to be more to this than what's currently being reported. I'm guessing DeSean Jackson isn't the only player in the NFL running with a bad crowd when he's away from the team. A lot of them miss meetings and gripe about their contracts, too. Not too many Pro Bowlers just get cut outright, though.
Missing multiple meetings to hang with friends

Pulled over at LAX for tint and had weed on him

2 of his friends arrested (or investigated) for murder

I'm sure there's much more there that doesnt make it out as well

 
So by cutting him, the Eagles are trying to be proactive against any bad publicity? Is this the only reason? Was he a threat to teammates?

Doesn't make a lot of sense, since it looks like they ate half of his salary. Why not keep him, if/when he screws up, then cut him.
Be more specific when you say "screws up"
Multiple homicide and/or armed robbery.
Exactley. It's better to be proactive

 
So by cutting him, the Eagles are trying to be proactive against any bad publicity? Is this the only reason? Was he a threat to teammates?

Doesn't make a lot of sense, since it looks like they ate half of his salary. Why not keep him, if/when he screws up, then cut him.
Be more specific when you say "screws up"
Multiple homicide and/or armed robbery.
If that's the case, then you don't need to cut him now. When he's in jail, you can cut him.

There has to be more to this than what is being reported. Is Jackson going to be charged?

 
He must have been a huge cancer in that locker room:

Jason Kelce @Jkelce Follow

We just made an extremely unpopular decision, but I couldn't be more excited and happy with where this organization is going!! #FlyEaglesFly
Ed Werder@Edwerderespn 23m
Eagles end relationship with a young receiver who just had career season in Chip Kelly offense. Some teammates laud move. It's that bad
That should pretty much tell you everything you need to know about this situation
 
Missing multiple meetings to hang with friends

Pulled over at LAX for tint and had weed on him

2 of his friends arrested (or investigated) for murder

I'm sure there's much more there that doesnt make it out as well
So the worst we really have on him is tint and weed? I'm sure there is more behind the scenes as well but again, we don't know what that is.
 
Touchdown There said:
The first thing this guy did when he signed his big contract with the Eagles a few years back was start a rap music business. That pretty much tells you where is mind is at.
To say that was indicative of being low character or possible criminal activity is pretty offensive. Even if the facts as we know them support your prejudice.
Jackson not being 100% committed to football is where my mind was at. Your assumption about where my mind is or was has no truth or relevance.Jackson thinks he is a businessman and a rapper. I suggest he focus his mind towards athletic goals and use his time more efficiently.

 

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