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good win for the pack we will have to hope they can get healthy and work on hands teams in the off week and if you are det you better hope they do not ban nintendokon boy named sue he has such a bad record that a game ban ala rayola is definitely a possibility i think even if he did not mean it or whatever so that is is it have a good week brohans and take it to the bank

 
I would be awesome if the commish gave him like 6 games and ####ed up his contract negotiations in the offseason. Or better yet indefinite. He's a piece of ####. He deserves whatever he gets .
If it wasn't Rodgers nobody would have even seen this. Not saying dirt play is ok...but I don't think this one was on purpose. Hopefully Rodgers didn't hurt his labe.

 
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I would be awesome if the commish gave him like 6 games and ####ed up his contract negotiations in the offseason. Or better yet indefinite. He's a piece of ####. He deserves whatever he gets .
If it wasn't Rodgers nobody would have even seen this. Not saying dirt play is ok...but I don't think this one was on purpose. Hopefully Rodgers didn't hurt his labe.
Well Goodell probably isn't going to take kindly to an overrated known dirty player taking a cheap shot at the face of the NFL on a national stage.

 
I would be awesome if the commish gave him like 6 games and ####ed up his contract negotiations in the offseason. Or better yet indefinite. He's a piece of ####. He deserves whatever he gets .
I agree with this.

I think people are missing a bigger point here. Had Suh lost his mind and stomped or kicked someone, we could say he has an anger or control issue. Give him a hefty fine and a suspension and move on.

But he wasn't angry or out of control here. He INTENTIONALLY lifted his front leg in order to let his entire 300+ pounds rest on the leg of an opposing QB, and he did it in such a way as to try to avoid attention, trying (unsuccessfully) to be subtle about it. Such an action reveals not just an extraordinarily poor character, but a likely pathological psychological disorder underneath. This is a guy who should be in a therapists' office, not on a football field playing a semi-violent game wher crossing the line could do real harm to another human being.

What he did, as minor as the physical ramifications are, is far worse than a simple late hit to a QB.

 
I would be awesome if the commish gave him like 6 games and ####ed up his contract negotiations in the offseason. Or better yet indefinite. He's a piece of ####. He deserves whatever he gets .
I agree with this.

I think people are missing a bigger point here. Had Suh lost his mind and stomped or kicked someone, we could say he has an anger or control issue. Give him a hefty fine and a suspension and move on.

But he wasn't angry or out of control here. He INTENTIONALLY lifted his front leg in order to let his entire 300+ pounds rest on the leg of an opposing QB, and he did it in such a way as to try to avoid attention, trying (unsuccessfully) to be subtle about it. Such an action reveals not just an extraordinarily poor character, but a likely pathological psychological disorder underneath. This is a guy who should be in a therapists' office, not on a football field playing a semi-violent game wher crossing the line could do real harm to another human being.

What he did, as minor as the physical ramifications are, is far worse than a simple late hit to a QB.
I agree. Very telling was the fact that he didn't even look back when Rodgers slapped his leg.

 
I would be awesome if the commish gave him like 6 games and ####ed up his contract negotiations in the offseason. Or better yet indefinite. He's a piece of ####. He deserves whatever he gets .
If it wasn't Rodgers nobody would have even seen this. Not saying dirt play is ok...but I don't think this one was on purpose. Hopefully Rodgers didn't hurt his labe.
WHen your front leg is on the ground, and your back leg is on a person, and you lift THE FRONT LEG....sorry dude, it's beyond ridiculous to draw any conclusion other than intent from that.

 
I think on this instance it's a bit disengenous to be blaming Stafford as the root cause of this loss.

General bad plays on special teams and some other bad errors all combined to mean we didn't deserve to win. Along with some epically woeful officiating. I hope they were biased because I'd be worried if they were that inept.

Stafford still threw for three TDs on the road in Lambeau. It was a one score game, Lions ball at midfield and Bell drops the whole thing before Stafford is even allowed to mount another drive in a game that has been tight and has just had a big blocked field goal play for the Lions. That and the resulting Rodgers non TD knocked the stuffing out of us.

That doesn't happen and we have a good drive at that point causing a very tight game that goes down to the wire and could go either way and it becomes a 'good effort' by the Lions and a decent performance at least to take something forward into next week, with no real mention of Stafford, imo.

Of course none of this is enough to remove the monkey on the shoulder of him never beating a winning team on the road and there is of course a very real and live issue there. Our bigger problems tonight were ....

Special teams switching off

A banged up O line

A D line that got no real pressure on a one legged QB after the injury

Joique fatal error

Some ####### rancid officiating

Stafford actually made some big plays/throws when he needed to tonight and he was denied his biggest moment to come to the fore by Joique Bell.

 
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I would be awesome if the commish gave him like 6 games and ####ed up his contract negotiations in the offseason. Or better yet indefinite. He's a piece of ####. He deserves whatever he gets .
If it wasn't Rodgers nobody would have even seen this. Not saying dirt play is ok...but I don't think this one was on purpose. Hopefully Rodgers didn't hurt his labe.
That's a bunch of crap. Quit making excuses for dirty players. It seems EVERYONE saw it when Raiola stepped on a not so well known Bears lineman last week. It has nothing to do with Rodgers and EVERYTHING to do with dirty, POS players that play for the Lions.

 
I think on this instance it's a bit disengenous to be blaming Stafford as the root cause of this loss.

General bad plays on special teams and some other bad errors all combined to mean we didn't deserve to win. Along with some epically woeful officiating. I hope they were biased because I'd be worried if they were that inept.

Stafford still threw for three TDs on the road in Lambeau. It was a one score game, Lions ball at midfield and Bell drops the whole thing before Stafford is even allowed to mount another drive in a game that has been tight and has just had a big blocked field goal play for the Lions. That and the resulting non Rodgers TD knocked the stuffing out of us.

That doesn't happen and we have a good drive at that point causing a very tight game that goes down to the wire and could go either way and it becomes a 'good effort' by the Lions and a decent performance at least to take something forward into next week, with no real mention of Stafford, imo.

Of course none of this is enough to remove the monkey on the shoulder of him never beating a winning team on the road and there is of course a very real and live issue there. Our bigger problems tonight were ....

Special teams switching off

A banged up O line

A D line that got no real pressure on a one legged QB after the injury

Joique fatal error

Some ####### rancid officiating

Stafford actually made some big plays/throws when he needed to tonight and he was denied his biggest moment to come to the fore by Joique Bell.
I know you are bitter but come on. Lots of missed calls on both sides of the ball. Blaming the officials for a game that was closer than it should have been is weak.

 
I think on this instance it's a bit disengenous to be blaming Stafford as the root cause of this loss.

General bad plays on special teams and some other bad errors all combined to mean we didn't deserve to win. Along with some epically woeful officiating. I hope they were biased because I'd be worried if they were that inept.

Stafford still threw for three TDs on the road in Lambeau. It was a one score game, Lions ball at midfield and Bell drops the whole thing before Stafford is even allowed to mount another drive in a game that has been tight and has just had a big blocked field goal play for the Lions. That and the resulting non Rodgers TD knocked the stuffing out of us.

That doesn't happen and we have a good drive at that point causing a very tight game that goes down to the wire and could go either way and it becomes a 'good effort' by the Lions and a decent performance at least to take something forward into next week, with no real mention of Stafford, imo.

Of course none of this is enough to remove the monkey on the shoulder of him never beating a winning team on the road and there is of course a very real and live issue there. Our bigger problems tonight were ....

Special teams switching off

A banged up O line

A D line that got no real pressure on a one legged QB after the injury

Joique fatal error

Some ####### rancid officiating

Stafford actually made some big plays/throws when he needed to tonight and he was denied his biggest moment to come to the fore by Joique Bell.
The first two punts were on him.

Eight straight incompletions to open the second quarter.

Eight straight incompletions.

Amazing that people still make excuses for this guy.

 
I think on this instance it's a bit disengenous to be blaming Stafford as the root cause of this loss.

General bad plays on special teams and some other bad errors all combined to mean we didn't deserve to win. Along with some epically woeful officiating. I hope they were biased because I'd be worried if they were that inept.

Stafford still threw for three TDs on the road in Lambeau. It was a one score game, Lions ball at midfield and Bell drops the whole thing before Stafford is even allowed to mount another drive in a game that has been tight and has just had a big blocked field goal play for the Lions. That and the resulting non Rodgers TD knocked the stuffing out of us.

That doesn't happen and we have a good drive at that point causing a very tight game that goes down to the wire and could go either way and it becomes a 'good effort' by the Lions and a decent performance at least to take something forward into next week, with no real mention of Stafford, imo.

Of course none of this is enough to remove the monkey on the shoulder of him never beating a winning team on the road and there is of course a very real and live issue there. Our bigger problems tonight were ....

Special teams switching off

A banged up O line

A D line that got no real pressure on a one legged QB after the injury

Joique fatal error

Some ####### rancid officiating

Stafford actually made some big plays/throws when he needed to tonight and he was denied his biggest moment to come to the fore by Joique Bell.
I know you are bitter but come on. Lots of missed calls on both sides of the ball. Blaming the officials for a game that was closer than it should have been is weak.
Correct.

Didn't affect the outcome. Missed calls both ways. Overcoming that sort of thing is part of winning.

Better team won today.

 
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I think on this instance it's a bit disengenous to be blaming Stafford as the root cause of this loss.

General bad plays on special teams and some other bad errors all combined to mean we didn't deserve to win. Along with some epically woeful officiating. I hope they were biased because I'd be worried if they were that inept.

Stafford still threw for three TDs on the road in Lambeau. It was a one score game, Lions ball at midfield and Bell drops the whole thing before Stafford is even allowed to mount another drive in a game that has been tight and has just had a big blocked field goal play for the Lions. That and the resulting non Rodgers TD knocked the stuffing out of us.

That doesn't happen and we have a good drive at that point causing a very tight game that goes down to the wire and could go either way and it becomes a 'good effort' by the Lions and a decent performance at least to take something forward into next week, with no real mention of Stafford, imo.

Of course none of this is enough to remove the monkey on the shoulder of him never beating a winning team on the road and there is of course a very real and live issue there. Our bigger problems tonight were ....

Special teams switching off

A banged up O line

A D line that got no real pressure on a one legged QB after the injury

Joique fatal error

Some ####### rancid officiating

Stafford actually made some big plays/throws when he needed to tonight and he was denied his biggest moment to come to the fore by Joique Bell.
I know you are bitter but come on. Lots of missed calls on both sides of the ball. Blaming the officials for a game that was closer than it should have been is weak.
You might care to notice that I listed that last out of about 6 different things. Didn't mean to insinuate that we lost because of the refs. We lost because of a multitude of our own problems but it is worth noting that there were some strange calls that had a direct result on the scoreboard, that is all. I'm actually not bitter. Merely resigned to the fact that the expected happened and we didn't pull out an upset win. We still have our main go of pulling out an upset victory next week and I'm perfectly fine with that.

 
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Lions deserved to lose but it sucks that the play that officially ended the game was an overturned 2 point conversion that no definitive proof was shown to the TV audience. Another call that pissed me off was the safety. I'd agree that it was intentional grounding but the pisser was that Rodgers pulled the exact same move a drive or two prior and nary a word was mentioned about intentional grounding. Rodgers said jordy ran a bad route and apparently that was good enough for the refs. The facemask call on levy was another one we could've done without.

Like every game, a few key plays decide it and the lions came up short on those plays today.

I don't get all the stafford hate. Granted, the guy isn't Rodgers or Brady or manning but he's an above average nfl QB, IMO.

 
I think on this instance it's a bit disengenous to be blaming Stafford as the root cause of this loss.

General bad plays on special teams and some other bad errors all combined to mean we didn't deserve to win. Along with some epically woeful officiating. I hope they were biased because I'd be worried if they were that inept.

Stafford still threw for three TDs on the road in Lambeau. It was a one score game, Lions ball at midfield and Bell drops the whole thing before Stafford is even allowed to mount another drive in a game that has been tight and has just had a big blocked field goal play for the Lions. That and the resulting non Rodgers TD knocked the stuffing out of us.

That doesn't happen and we have a good drive at that point causing a very tight game that goes down to the wire and could go either way and it becomes a 'good effort' by the Lions and a decent performance at least to take something forward into next week, with no real mention of Stafford, imo.

Of course none of this is enough to remove the monkey on the shoulder of him never beating a winning team on the road and there is of course a very real and live issue there. Our bigger problems tonight were ....

Special teams switching off

A banged up O line

A D line that got no real pressure on a one legged QB after the injury

Joique fatal error

Some ####### rancid officiating

Stafford actually made some big plays/throws when he needed to tonight and he was denied his biggest moment to come to the fore by Joique Bell.
The first two punts were on him.Eight straight incompletions to open the second quarter.

Eight straight incompletions.

Amazing that people still make excuses for this guy.
Your inference is that I am some kind of Stafford lover that is knowingly bending what I am seeing to serve up some kind of excuses for him because i want to hang off his nuts. You may well be right about Stafford being the root cause of this loss, but fundamentally this post and that last line is simply 100% wrong.

Just calling it like I saw it which may well be just plain wrong on my part but at least give me the respect of being aware that I am not deliberately manipulating what I am seeing to serve some kind of agenda.

 
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I think on this instance it's a bit disengenous to be blaming Stafford as the root cause of this loss.

General bad plays on special teams and some other bad errors all combined to mean we didn't deserve to win. Along with some epically woeful officiating. I hope they were biased because I'd be worried if they were that inept.

Stafford still threw for three TDs on the road in Lambeau. It was a one score game, Lions ball at midfield and Bell drops the whole thing before Stafford is even allowed to mount another drive in a game that has been tight and has just had a big blocked field goal play for the Lions. That and the resulting non Rodgers TD knocked the stuffing out of us.

That doesn't happen and we have a good drive at that point causing a very tight game that goes down to the wire and could go either way and it becomes a 'good effort' by the Lions and a decent performance at least to take something forward into next week, with no real mention of Stafford, imo.

Of course none of this is enough to remove the monkey on the shoulder of him never beating a winning team on the road and there is of course a very real and live issue there. Our bigger problems tonight were ....

Special teams switching off

A banged up O line

A D line that got no real pressure on a one legged QB after the injury

Joique fatal error

Some ####### rancid officiating

Stafford actually made some big plays/throws when he needed to tonight and he was denied his biggest moment to come to the fore by Joique Bell.
The first two punts were on him.Eight straight incompletions to open the second quarter.

Eight straight incompletions.

Amazing that people still make excuses for this guy.
Your inference is that I am some kind of Stafford lover that is knowingly bending what I am seeing to serve up some kind of excuses for him because i want to hang off his nuts. You may well be right about Stafford being the root cause of this loss, but fundamentally this post and that last line is simply 100% wrong.

Just calling it like I saw it which may well be just plain wrong on my part but at least give me the respect of being aware that I am not deliberately manipulating what I am seeing to serve some kind of agenda.
It's all good, bro. Frustrating loss.

The fact is our franchise QB, the best quarterback we've had in the 49 years of the Super Bowl era, is probably around the 12th-15th best at his position in the league.

It is what it is. He came up small today. He's not the only reason they lost, but he could have been the reason they won. But that's not who he is.

 
I really do hope Detroit wins a playoff game or two though. I have lots of close friends that are long suffering Lions fans. Suh and Raiola aside there are a lot of classy players on the team like Calvin, Bell, and Stafford.

 
It sucks that Det has to go to Dal and that 1 of those teams will lose. Car is an embarrassment to the playoffs with a losing record and Arz is basically a dead team walking thanks to injuries. I'd much rather see both Det and Dal advance.

 
Lions deserved to lose but it sucks that the play that officially ended the game was an overturned 2 point conversion that no definitive proof was shown to the TV audience. Another call that pissed me off was the safety. I'd agree that it was intentional grounding but the pisser was that Rodgers pulled the exact same move a drive or two prior and nary a word was mentioned about intentional grounding. Rodgers said jordy ran a bad route and apparently that was good enough for the refs. The facemask call on levy was another one we could've done without.

Like every game, a few key plays decide it and the lions came up short on those plays today.

I don't get all the stafford hate. Granted, the guy isn't Rodgers or Brady or manning but he's an above average nfl QB, IMO.
Wait, you had an issue with the grounding call and the Levy facemask? Really? Both of those were straightforward calls.

I thought the Lions D was the issue today. Stafford didn't play a great game, but their defense and punt coverage were a much bigger part of the problem. I would love to see Detroit win in Dallas, and again in Seattle.

 
The Suh play is overblown.

The 2 point shoild have been 2...the safety as a legit call.

GB was the better team.

 
I actually hope Detroit beats Dallas. I'd love to have a rematch of this game in Green Bay.
Wouldn't be until the NFC Championship game. Detroit would have to win two games.
So, they would have to double their playoffs win total from the last 50 + years? Can I get the under.

Stafford is an average to below average quarterback to the other poster. A lot of quarterbacks would kill to have the weapons he has on offense and he couldn't even average 20 points a game in a NFL where the rules are heavily tilted towards the offense.

 
I actually hope Detroit beats Dallas. I'd love to have a rematch of this game in Green Bay.
Wouldn't be until the NFC Championship game. Detroit would have to win two games.
So, they would have to double their playoffs win total from the last 50 + years? Can I get the under.

Stafford is an average to below average quarterback to the other poster. A lot of quarterbacks would kill to have the weapons he has on offense and he couldn't even average 20 points a game in a NFL where the rules are heavily tilted towards the offense.
A lot of QBs would get killed behind that oline as well so I guess it's a give and take.
 
It sucks that Det has to go to Dal and that 1 of those teams will lose. Car is an embarrassment to the playoffs with a losing record and Arz is basically a dead team walking thanks to injuries. I'd much rather see both Det and Dal advance.
That embarrassing Carolina team beat Detroit earlier in the season.

 
I actually hope Detroit beats Dallas. I'd love to have a rematch of this game in Green Bay.
Wouldn't be until the NFC Championship game. Detroit would have to win two games.
So, they would have to double their playoffs win total from the last 50 + years? Can I get the under.

Stafford is an average to below average quarterback to the other poster. A lot of quarterbacks would kill to have the weapons he has on offense and he couldn't even average 20 points a game in a NFL where the rules are heavily tilted towards the offense.
A lot of QBs would get killed behind that oline as well so I guess it's a give and take.
What was his excuse last year when he had a great line?

 
I actually hope Detroit beats Dallas. I'd love to have a rematch of this game in Green Bay.
Wouldn't be until the NFC Championship game. Detroit would have to win two games.
So, they would have to double their playoffs win total from the last 50 + years? Can I get the under.

Stafford is an average to below average quarterback to the other poster. A lot of quarterbacks would kill to have the weapons he has on offense and he couldn't even average 20 points a game in a NFL where the rules are heavily tilted towards the offense.
A lot of QBs would get killed behind that oline as well so I guess it's a give and take.
What was his excuse last year when he had a great line?
What excuse where you giving his "weapons" the past 2 years as they lead the NFL in drops?
 
It sucks that Det has to go to Dal and that 1 of those teams will lose. Car is an embarrassment to the playoffs with a losing record and Arz is basically a dead team walking thanks to injuries. I'd much rather see both Det and Dal advance.
That embarrassing Carolina team beat Detroit earlier in the season.
So what.
I think they would beat Detroit again.
They may. That doesn't change the fact that they have a losing record and are getting into the playoffs.
 
Lions deserved to lose but it sucks that the play that officially ended the game was an overturned 2 point conversion that no definitive proof was shown to the TV audience. Another call that pissed me off was the safety. I'd agree that it was intentional grounding but the pisser was that Rodgers pulled the exact same move a drive or two prior and nary a word was mentioned about intentional grounding. Rodgers said jordy ran a bad route and apparently that was good enough for the refs. The facemask call on levy was another one we could've done without.

Like every game, a few key plays decide it and the lions came up short on those plays today.

I don't get all the stafford hate. Granted, the guy isn't Rodgers or Brady or manning but he's an above average nfl QB, IMO.
Wait, you had an issue with the grounding call and the Levy facemask? Really? Both of those were straightforward calls. I thought the Lions D was the issue today. Stafford didn't play a great game, but their defense and punt coverage were a much bigger part of the problem. I would love to see Detroit win in Dallas, and again in Seattle.
I didn't have a problem with the grounding call except for the fact that the exact same play happened not 10 minutes earlier with Rodgers and there wasn't even discussion of a penalty.

The levy facemask was weak. He did touch his mask but he didn't grab it. Levy had him by the pads and I think from the refs angle, it looked like his hand was always on the mask. It wasn't. IIRC, this was on a 3rd down.

Detroit special teams may well have cost them the game, along with the bell fumble. The refs calls were just salt in the wound. The 2 point conversion overturn was horrible and the game wasn't over until that point, even as poorly as the lions had played. It sucks as a lions fan. We always seem to catch the short end on these types of things. I remember losing a game to TB the first year of replay, where our TE caught the ball while sliding out the side of the end zone. Knee was down on replay and it was ruled a TD on the field. The play was overturned and we lost. Remember the Texan game on thanksgiving where the rb was tackled but none of the refs noticed? Things like these only seem to happen to the lions and it happens a lot. All this being said, it wouldn't surprise me if we beat Dallas next week.

 
Stafford is not quite as good as Romo but he does have a low single digit handicap. Those two should dominate the Celebrity Golf Tour in the 2020s.

 
It sucks that Det has to go to Dal and that 1 of those teams will lose. Car is an embarrassment to the playoffs with a losing record and Arz is basically a dead team walking thanks to injuries. I'd much rather see both Det and Dal advance.
That embarrassing Carolina team beat Detroit earlier in the season.
So what.
I think they would beat Detroit again.
They may. That doesn't change the fact that they have a losing record and are getting into the playoffs.
That is obvious isn't it? How many teams with a winning record have the Lions beaten this year?

 
It sucks that Det has to go to Dal and that 1 of those teams will lose. Car is an embarrassment to the playoffs with a losing record and Arz is basically a dead team walking thanks to injuries. I'd much rather see both Det and Dal advance.
That embarrassing Carolina team beat Detroit earlier in the season.
So what.
I think they would beat Detroit again.
They may. That doesn't change the fact that they have a losing record and are getting into the playoffs.
That is obvious isn't it? How many teams with a winning record have the Lions beaten this year?
What's Det schedule have to do with Car losing record?
 
It sucks that Det has to go to Dal and that 1 of those teams will lose. Car is an embarrassment to the playoffs with a losing record and Arz is basically a dead team walking thanks to injuries. I'd much rather see both Det and Dal advance.
I agree with this. I really wish Arizona still had Carson. They could have made some noise. I think Seattle wins it all again though. Great team all around.

 
When those players ran into the sideline heater you could clearly see him dragging the Packer behind him by the mask. No call.

 
It sucks that Det has to go to Dal and that 1 of those teams will lose. Car is an embarrassment to the playoffs with a losing record and Arz is basically a dead team walking thanks to injuries. I'd much rather see both Det and Dal advance.
I agree with this. I really wish Arizona still had Carson. They could have made some noise. I think Seattle wins it all again though. Great team all around.
yeah, seattle is playing the best right now. that said, if Arizona still had Carson, then the seahawks would have been a wild card. never would have even won the division. that is the part that sucks the most. (ok, the 2nd most. the nfc south getting a playoff team at all.....that sucks the most)

 
It sucks that Det has to go to Dal and that 1 of those teams will lose. Car is an embarrassment to the playoffs with a losing record and Arz is basically a dead team walking thanks to injuries. I'd much rather see both Det and Dal advance.
I agree with this. I really wish Arizona still had Carson. They could have made some noise. I think Seattle wins it all again though. Great team all around.
yeah, seattle is playing the best right now. that said, if Arizona still had Carson, then the seahawks would have been a wild card. never would have even won the division. that is the part that sucks the most. (ok, the 2nd most. the nfc south getting a playoff team at all.....that sucks the most)
Dallas is playing just as good as Seattle, and has beaten Seattle in Seattle earlier this year. I also don't think the NFC South getting into the playoffs sucks. They played a harder schedule than the NFC North, and Carolina is playing really well right now. It does suck for Arizona that Palmer went down twice this year. I agree that they would have won their division w/ Palmer.

 
Anyone watching the Replay of this on NFL Replay, on the NFL Network?

After Micah Hydes TD return, they show the sideline, and I swear Team Doctor comes over to Hyde and goes for a fist bump and says "Give it up n**ga"

 

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