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***Detroit Tigers thread: 1st pick yet again, this is not fun*** (4 Viewers)
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I gave the tigers my reverse jinx on that game, no way I saw them winning it either.
Surprised it was only +132
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FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
Anibal with a scoreless inning! 
On top of that, JUP starting to heat up, McCann also.
On top of that, JUP starting to heat up, McCann also.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Lamb tacos too??Anibal with a scoreless inning!
On top of that, JUP starting to heat up, McCann also.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Gopher State
Footballguy
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
I don't get the doom and gloom locally with this franchise. Last week they had a special on 97.1 asking which Detroit pro franchise had the brightest near-term future. The popular answer was the Pistons for most bright, and Tigers for least. That makes zero sense and shows what a bunch of morons are out there. The Pistons aren't winning #### without elite talent, for which they have one borderline-elite player. They might get to 50 wins and get to the conference finals one year, but that's about it. They are the only franchise in the last 40 years in the NBA who has won even one title without a past, present, or future MVP. They did it three times so asking for a 4th seems impossible.
The Tigers on the other hand have two of the best players in baseball north of 30 in Cabrera and Verlander, some very good vets in VMART, JZimm, and Kinsler and JUP who is just entering his prime and should be a long-term producer. But what is really exciting is the young pieces on the team.
-Castellanos is 24 and looks like a legit all-star caliber bat.
-James McCann is going to be 26 next week and looks like one of teh best defensive catchers in baseball who should be a .250 type hitter with some good pop
-Jose Iglesias, 26, a defensive-oriented player who locks down the left side and has a .280 career average.
-Michael Fulmer, 23, a lower end top 100 prospect who looks like he might be at least a middle of the rotation gem, and maybe a #2.
-Matt Boyd, 25, a 6th round pick who is not heralded but dominated every level of the minors before a few rough call-ups. He's settling down and could be a back of the rotation guy
-Daniel Norris, 23, the highest ranked pitching prospect since Justin Verlander and a possible ace. Has scuffled with some injuries but he's back on track now and should be the best arm in the entire franchise.
-In the minors Christin Stewart is turning heads and is a bat-first corner OFer that should be ready next summer. Jimenez who has been mentioned, as well as the less mentioned Beau Burrows, are electric arms. Moya and Mike Gerber are good organizational depth that should be good bench/platoon options, and JaCoby Jones who has the physical tools to be special...probably at 3B.
If I had to bet on who wins a title in the next five years and my choices are the Pistons or Tigers, I'm all in on the Tigers. There are a lot of good pieces here and as the 2013 Red Sox, 2015 Royals, and pretty much any of those Cardinals teams have shown...you just need pieces and to get to the postseason and then play your best. Oh, and not have 7-9 days off between the ALCS and WS.
The Tigers on the other hand have two of the best players in baseball north of 30 in Cabrera and Verlander, some very good vets in VMART, JZimm, and Kinsler and JUP who is just entering his prime and should be a long-term producer. But what is really exciting is the young pieces on the team.
-Castellanos is 24 and looks like a legit all-star caliber bat.
-James McCann is going to be 26 next week and looks like one of teh best defensive catchers in baseball who should be a .250 type hitter with some good pop
-Jose Iglesias, 26, a defensive-oriented player who locks down the left side and has a .280 career average.
-Michael Fulmer, 23, a lower end top 100 prospect who looks like he might be at least a middle of the rotation gem, and maybe a #2.
-Matt Boyd, 25, a 6th round pick who is not heralded but dominated every level of the minors before a few rough call-ups. He's settling down and could be a back of the rotation guy
-Daniel Norris, 23, the highest ranked pitching prospect since Justin Verlander and a possible ace. Has scuffled with some injuries but he's back on track now and should be the best arm in the entire franchise.
-In the minors Christin Stewart is turning heads and is a bat-first corner OFer that should be ready next summer. Jimenez who has been mentioned, as well as the less mentioned Beau Burrows, are electric arms. Moya and Mike Gerber are good organizational depth that should be good bench/platoon options, and JaCoby Jones who has the physical tools to be special...probably at 3B.
If I had to bet on who wins a title in the next five years and my choices are the Pistons or Tigers, I'm all in on the Tigers. There are a lot of good pieces here and as the 2013 Red Sox, 2015 Royals, and pretty much any of those Cardinals teams have shown...you just need pieces and to get to the postseason and then play your best. Oh, and not have 7-9 days off between the ALCS and WS.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
BOOM 
Should have lost that game 8-0.
Should have lost that game 8-0.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
Since the Kinsler/Fielder trade Kinsler has a 15 WAR, Fatass .5.
Reverse jinxes rarely work that well. Big win there. Gotta stay over .500 and keep building.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Why has maybin sat two games in a row? He hurt?
MAC_32
Footballguy
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
FWIW JUP had a 49 game streak last year where he hit .182. The swinging at bad pitches part of his game is concerning, but he's about to get on track IMO.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
good article on Tigers past drafts
If you don't want to be depressed, stop looking before 2004. Randy Smith was quite possibly the worst GM in not only franchise history, but in baseball history. For reference, he currently is the VP of player development and international scouting for the Padres. lololololol
If you don't want to be depressed, stop looking before 2004. Randy Smith was quite possibly the worst GM in not only franchise history, but in baseball history. For reference, he currently is the VP of player development and international scouting for the Padres. lololololol
The only thing I remember is the team was the clear preseason favorite to win it all and went 0-4 in the playoffs including blowing a three run lead in the ninth. I am not going to call that a success.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
Tigers won 0 division titles between 1987 and 2011, you sound like a spoiled fan or someone that doesn't appreciate how hard it is to get to the postseason in baseball. Ask Cubs, Padres, Orioles, Rockies, or Astros fans about four straight division titles and four series wins. And they weren't clear favorites at all.
Also it was three games not four, and 8th inning not 9th.
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Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Joe Jiminez update:Jiminez pitched his 3rd game for Erie Saturday, perfect inning with 2 strikeouts.
So far, he has pitched 3 games, 3 innings, given up 1 hit, no runs, no walks, WHIP of 0.33, with 7 strikeouts.
The domination continues.
In his 4th game for Erie, he pitched 1 inning, allowed no runs, 1 hit, no walks, and 3 strikeouts.
So far, 4 games, 4 innings, no runs, 2 hits, no walks, and 10 (TEN) strikeouts.
Just a matter of time fellas.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
One of only three in the Tigers organization in the top 100 Baseball America list of top 100 RHPs. He's 72, Burrows at 44, Fulmer at 10.Joe Jiminez update:
In his 4th game for Erie, he pitched 1 inning, allowed no runs, 1 hit, no walks, and 3 strikeouts.
So far, 4 games, 4 innings, no runs, 2 hits, no walks, and 10 (TEN) strikeouts.
Just a matter of time fellas.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
If I bother to print out a cheat sheet before the draft, I would have prepared more than Matt Millen. He was truly pathetic.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
Two runs are on JUP for not playing that ball correctly in the 1st. That was a fairly easy play.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Tigers did beat the White Sox on disco demolition night without actually scoring a run. But it has been a while.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
IMAX 3D
Footballguy
If only. That is my biggest beef with this place. Not enough Bannings. And they should be public and put on display as an example. Make FBG great again!
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Joe Jiminez update: Saturday, another scoreless inning, no hits, 1 walk, 1 strikeout. In his 5 games at AA Erie, 5 innings, no runs, 2 hits, 1 walk, 11 strikeouts.Joe Jiminez update:
In his 4th game for Erie, he pitched 1 inning, allowed no runs, 1 hit, no walks, and 3 strikeouts.
So far, 4 games, 4 innings, no runs, 2 hits, no walks, and 10 (TEN) strikeouts.
Just a matter of time fellas.
Can you tell I'm a big fan?
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Does Kinsler have a shot at the HOF is he has a couple more good seasons after this? Even if he slows a little he should end up around 300-20- and between 80-100 RBIs.
Looking at his career numbers they have to be up there for second baseman.
Looking at his career numbers they have to be up there for second baseman.
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Not looking at the stats right now, but Average is almost identical. I doubt if Kinsler passes Lou in hits or RBI's unless he is productive to 40 years old. Probably pass him in HR's in a couple years.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
You are right..Lou started at 19, Kinsler at 24. If Kinsler plays to the same age as Lou he will have five less seasons. I do think his per season numbers will be a bit better though.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
WTF is Ausmus doing coming out to the mound to tell Fulmer to walk Ellsbury with one on and two outs? That's so dumb.
FishTacoTuesday
Footballguy
I'd keep Greene there. Anibal is still an option to go back to the rotation, and Norris has pitched better of late in Toledo. Pelfrey has allowed two or less earned runs in 4 of his last 6 games, and he allowed three Friday and two of those belonged to Justin Upton.
