DH top 15 QB rankings (1 Viewer)

[Deranged Hermit]

Alrighty than. Since my RB rankings got decent feedback (the rankings can be found HERE), we're going to give QB's a shot next. Again, this is how I think things will fall when all is said and done at season's end. I would not draft them in this order since some of these QB's are way outside their ADP.

1. Drew Brees

I expect a lot of good things again out of the NO offense. Their Defense still isn't that good which means they still should be in a lot of shootouts. Couple that with the fact that their RB's aren't great runners, well, that bodes well for Brees' numbers.

2. Peyton Manning

Mr. Consistancy. Yes, Harrison is gone, but they still have a ton of weapons at Manning's disposal.

3. Tom Brady

I struggled with this. I'm NOT a fan of taking a chance like this, on a QB no less, just one year removed from surgery. Buyer beware here, you're investing a 2nd on a guy who may well be QB1, but just as easily could be QB10. He'd have to drop to the 4th for me to take him.

4. Donovan McNabb

Big drop in tier here, but McNabb has proven he can stay healthy last season. More importantly though, Kolb has proven he's not even close to being ready. IMO, the sky's the limit here, he's basically in a contract year (the Eagles will decide to extend his contract or not this season), they love to throw, and he got another elite weapon in Maclin. You can get him at QB 7-8, but I think he'll do much better.

5. Aaron Rodgers

Rodgers shut up his critics last year when he put up numbers that, IMO, Farve wouldn't have running the offense. With much the same players again this year, I see no reason why that will change.

6. Matt Schaub

This is the guy that can win you a championship this year. While every other guy will be grabbing QBs in the 2nd to 7th round, you'll bide your time, picking up depth and filling your starting lineup and bang, you'll grab a QB that will be drafted around QB12, but will out play most of the guys picked previously. Injury is a concern, so make sure you get a competent backup (Ryan, Eli, etc).

7. Philip Rivers

Rivers' season last year took many by surprise, but I see him coming close to those numbers this year. I'd have liked to see them improve their WR, but whatever.

8. Ben Rothliberger

I don't see a return to his stats two years ago, but I expect a vast improvement on last year's numbers.

9. Kurt Warner

Most people will scream 'TOO LOW!!!!', but I simply can't see him staying healthy all year again. Add to that the fact that they seem to want to be able to run the ball more with the addition of Wells (who is not a pass catching back) and I see a dip in Warner's stats a bit this year.

10. Matt Ryan

Another QB who will out perform his draft position this year. I see a lot of 3 yard TD plunges that Turner ran in turning to 3 yard dumpoffs to White and Gonzo.

11. Tony Romo

On the flip side of the Schaub/Ryan coin, I see Tony Romo. He'll get drafted too high by some and they'll kick themselves for it. Sure, he'll have some very nice games, but you can't lose a HoF WR (a PIA one though) and not suffer.

12. Carson Palmer

I think he'll be heaving up the ball quite a bit, but the loss of his safety blanket (Housh) can't be discounted. Maybe Coles can fill that void? We'll find out.

13. Matt Hasselbeck

Last year was a fluke, everything that could go wrong in Seattle did. They were ravaged by injuries, but they now start with a clean slate. Hass has a new toy in Housh, and I see Seattle returning to the team it was two years ago, rather than the shell they were last year.

14. Jay Cutler

I'm a Bears fan. They like to run and they have nothing at WR. Cutler will be a fine NFL QB. Fantasy, not so much.

15. David Garrard

I'll take a lot of flak for this, but whatever. I think a lot of people are over-rating him, much like they're over-rating Cutler. Good NFL QB, not so good Fantasy.

Just missing the cut: Matt Cassel, Eli Manning, Kyle Orton

 

[Buffaloes]

Nice job. I think your top 6 guys are spot on.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Nice job. I think your top 6 guys are spot on.

I'm pretty sure the biggest issues people will have are Schaub, Warner and Garrard.

 

[ookook]

Schaub was around 7th in PPG last year, so 6th seems reasonable. Garrard 13th and you have him 15th. Warner from 5th to 9th is a drop but may be defensible.

It looks to me like you are down on Romo, who was 6th or so in terms of PPG and you have 11th. Is that just due to lack of Owens?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Schaub was around 7th in PPG last year, so 6th seems reasonable. Garrard 13th and you have him 15th. Warner from 5th to 9th is a drop but may be defensible.

It looks to me like you are down on Romo, who was 6th or so in terms of PPG and you have 11th. Is that just due to lack of Owens?

Owens is a big part of it, but I mostly see a down year for the Cowboys that will affect all their fantasy players in a big way. The only player on their roster that I would touch at their current ADP is Witten (maybe Felix too).

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Nice job. I think your top 6 guys are spot on.

I'm pretty sure the biggest issues people will have are Schaub, Warner and Garrard.

Good job in general DH.As for Garrard, I tend to agree - but in a league where virtually no QB runs on a consistent basis any more, Garrard's ability to scramble at times does give him a bump up the rankings. He won't be confused for Vick, but he is the most likely QB to lead the league in rushing - or at least the AFC. Shaun Hill would be my other candidate. Thigpen runs well but Matt Cassel's in his way.Garrard also got Torry Holt as an above average NFL WR1.I wouldn't push him too high, but he does get some decent bump ups for those 2 reasons.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Nice job. I think your top 6 guys are spot on.

I'm pretty sure the biggest issues people will have are Schaub, Warner and Garrard.

Well I think Warner is too low and is a lock for top 5 if healthy, but with that given risk I still think he finishes infront of Big BenBoth Schaub and Rodgers seem to get nicked up just as often

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Nice job. I think your top 6 guys are spot on.

I'm pretty sure the biggest issues people will have are Schaub, Warner and Garrard.

Well I think Warner is too low and is a lock for top 5 if healthy, but with that given risk I still think he finishes infront of Big BenBoth Schaub and Rodgers seem to get nicked up just as often

Agreed with Schaub at least. Rodgers always seems to play through the pain though. As for Warner, IMO, you cannot discount the 'SB-loser lull' that seems to happen every year. For whatever reason, things goes bad for Super Bowl losers the next year. Yeah, it might be superstition, but it happens way too often to discount.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Matt Schuab has been injured in the past, but is that injury prone or bad luck.. Here is what happened for him to miss time last year. He came back after this injury and tried to play in that game but it just would not allow him to. Also, he came back to finish off the season and played really well.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Nice job. I think your top 6 guys are spot on.

I'm pretty sure the biggest issues people will have are Schaub, Warner and Garrard.

Well I think Warner is too low and is a lock for top 5 if healthy, but with that given risk I still think he finishes infront of Big BenBoth Schaub and Rodgers seem to get nicked up just as often

Agreed with Schaub at least. Rodgers always seems to play through the pain though. As for Warner, IMO, you cannot discount the 'SB-loser lull' that seems to happen every year. For whatever reason, things goes bad for Super Bowl losers the next year. Yeah, it might be superstition, but it happens way too often to discount.

Did Rodgers break his foot or something in the one game that he played in back in 2007? He did play through it last year

 

[akaoni]

Injury risk or no, I don't think that Schaub is all that big a secret this year. With all the talk of him being a sneaky pick, I don't think he's very sneaky any more. For redraft I'm probably putting him in the same tier as McNabb, Rodgers, and Rivers, and expect him to be drafted around the same time those others go (maybe a smidge later).

Otherwise, good list!

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I'm really enjoying the differing opinions in both my projections thread so far. That's primarily why I did this, to generate meaningful discussion!

 

[TaxMan]

nice list. I think I would sub-in Palmer for Big Ben, and i believe one of Hasselback/Edwards make the top-10 as a surprise to bump out Ryan.

 

[mikel0254]

Like your RB's, great list! This seems like a great year to wait until you fill your starting RB's and WR's to grab a QB (especially in a 10 team league). Schaub and Palmer are quality starters IMO, and can be had after the run on QB's happen in the 4th or 5th round. I think Roth and Ryan will end up out of the top 10 - not b/c I think they're bad, I just think there are 10 others that will outperform them.

 

[FUBAR]

12. Carson PalmerI think he'll be heaving up the ball quite a bit, but the loss of his safety blanket (Housh) can't be discounted. Maybe Coles can fill that void? We'll find out.

We will find out, but IMO #12 is way too low for Palmer. He's been top 10 3 of the last 4 years. When healthy, the guy is one of the best in the business (FF-wise anyway). He seems to be recovered, IMO Coles is every bit as good as Housh, they have some young WRs with potential, and although Benson should suffice, they certainly won't be a run-first team any time soon. IMO, once you get past the big 3, Rivers, Rodgers, McNabb and in a redraft Warner, Palmer is the best option. So #8. I take him over Romo for sure. I can see where Schaub or Ben would be considered in the same tier, but Palmer has proven to be a stud and I believe will come back this year.Oh, and I just drafted him at 4.08 in a 16 teamer, 11th QB taken.

 

[sho nuff]

Nice job. I think your top 6 guys are spot on.

I'm pretty sure the biggest issues people will have are Schaub, Warner and Garrard.

Well I think Warner is too low and is a lock for top 5 if healthy, but with that given risk I still think he finishes infront of Big BenBoth Schaub and Rodgers seem to get nicked up just as often

Agreed with Schaub at least. Rodgers always seems to play through the pain though. As for Warner, IMO, you cannot discount the 'SB-loser lull' that seems to happen every year. For whatever reason, things goes bad for Super Bowl losers the next year. Yeah, it might be superstition, but it happens way too often to discount.

Did Rodgers break his foot or something in the one game that he played in back in 2007? He did play through it last year

Yes...in the game against the Patriots I believe he brook his foot when Favre went out earlier in the game. Played the rest of the game with the broken foot too.Though...I would not say "Rodgers always seems to play through the pain though" because of one season. We don't know yet how much he will play through when its all said and done.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I thought Rodgers hurt his shoulder last season?

 

[gonzobill5]

Nice job. I think your top 6 guys are spot on.

I'm pretty sure the biggest issues people will have are Schaub, Warner and Garrard.

For me, its Roethlisberger. I've come to my senses and will give him props as an NFL QB, but I still don't think he belongs anywhere near a top ten when we are talking about fantasy. 07 was a fluke with those TDs.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Nice job. I think your top 6 guys are spot on.

I'm pretty sure the biggest issues people will have are Schaub, Warner and Garrard.

For me, its Roethlisberger. I've come to my senses and will give him props as an NFL QB, but I still don't think he belongs anywhere near a top ten when we are talking about fantasy. 07 was a fluke with those TDs.

Now that I look at things, I'll probably flop Roth and Warner in my next go at this next month.

 

[FUBAR]

Nice job. I think your top 6 guys are spot on.

I'm pretty sure the biggest issues people will have are Schaub, Warner and Garrard.

For me, its Roethlisberger. I've come to my senses and will give him props as an NFL QB, but I still don't think he belongs anywhere near a top ten when we are talking about fantasy. 07 was a fluke with those TDs.

Now that I look at things, I'll probably flop Roth and Warner in my next go at this next month.

You should swap Roth and Palmer.

 

[gonzobill5]

Nice job. I think your top 6 guys are spot on.

I'm pretty sure the biggest issues people will have are Schaub, Warner and Garrard.

For me, its Roethlisberger. I've come to my senses and will give him props as an NFL QB, but I still don't think he belongs anywhere near a top ten when we are talking about fantasy. 07 was a fluke with those TDs.

Now that I look at things, I'll probably flop Roth and Warner in my next go at this next month.

I like your ranking/description of Romo, and think you've got Garrard at just the right spot. Garrard isn't a QB1, but he'd be a very solid backup that won't lose you games if you roll the dice with someone like Schaub, Cutler, Ryan.Speaking of Matt Ryan, I find it somewhat curious that no one has such high expectations of Flacco. I wouldn't be surprised to see both QBs put up similar stats again next year. If they do, people will be whining about Ryan and talking about how much of a steal Flacco was. Aside from YPA, their numbers are very similar - and if Clayton continues the improvement he showed at the end of 08, I could see Flacco improve in that area.

 

[Colin Dowling]

12. Carson PalmerI think he'll be heaving up the ball quite a bit, but the loss of his safety blanket (Housh) can't be discounted. Maybe Coles can fill that void? We'll find out.

We will find out, but IMO #12 is way too low for Palmer. He's been top 10 3 of the last 4 years. When healthy, the guy is one of the best in the business (FF-wise anyway). He seems to be recovered, IMO Coles is every bit as good as Housh, they have some young WRs with potential, and although Benson should suffice, they certainly won't be a run-first team any time soon. IMO, once you get past the big 3, Rivers, Rodgers, McNabb and in a redraft Warner, Palmer is the best option. So #8. I take him over Romo for sure. I can see where Schaub or Ben would be considered in the same tier, but Palmer has proven to be a stud and I believe will come back this year.Oh, and I just drafted him at 4.08 in a 16 teamer, 11th QB taken.

The addition of Andre Smith should be a huge deal as well. As long as Palmer stays healthy (and with the exception of last season, he hadn't missed a start since he was a Soph in college due to injury IIRC) I can't imagine him finishing outside the top 5 - 7.

 

[RudeDog]

Nice job. I think your top 6 guys are spot on.

I'm pretty sure the biggest issues people will have are Schaub, Warner and Garrard.

Not really...... I think Manning is too high. He has lost too much in terms of supporting cast as well as coaching. Look for Peyton to plummet in production this year. Indy as a team will struggle mightily this season, and I would be wary of all their players.I need to see how well Brady handles a little pressure up the middle before I can rank him..... he is the biggest ? right now. Next big ? is McNabb. If Westbrook's injury causes him to struggle all year then McNabb will also struggle.Brees at 1 is a no-brainer this year and I like the call on Schaub. Anybody who gets to throw to Andre will have good numbers.Nice job again.

 

[simmonjm]

Alrighty than. Since my RB rankings got decent feedback (the rankings can be found HERE), we're going to give QB's a shot next. Again, this is how I think things will fall when all is said and done at season's end. I would not draft them in this order since some of these QB's are way outside their ADP.

1. Drew Brees

I expect a lot of good things again out of the NO offense. Their Defense still isn't that good which means they still should be in a lot of shootouts. Couple that with the fact that their RB's aren't great runners, well, that bodes well for Brees' numbers.

2. Peyton Manning

Mr. Consistancy. Yes, Harrison is gone, but they still have a ton of weapons at Manning's disposal.

3. Tom Brady

I struggled with this. I'm NOT a fan of taking a chance like this, on a QB no less, just one year removed from surgery. Buyer beware here, you're investing a 2nd on a guy who may well be QB1, but just as easily could be QB10. He'd have to drop to the 4th for me to take him.

4. Donovan McNabb

Big drop in tier here, but McNabb has proven he can stay healthy last season. More importantly though, Kolb has proven he's not even close to being ready. IMO, the sky's the limit here, he's basically in a contract year (the Eagles will decide to extend his contract or not this season), they love to throw, and he got another elite weapon in Maclin. You can get him at QB 7-8, but I think he'll do much better.

5. Aaron Rodgers

Rodgers shut up his critics last year when he put up numbers that, IMO, Farve wouldn't have running the offense. With much the same players again this year, I see no reason why that will change.

6. Matt Schaub

This is the guy that can win you a championship this year. While every other guy will be grabbing QBs in the 2nd to 7th round, you'll bide your time, picking up depth and filling your starting lineup and bang, you'll grab a QB that will be drafted around QB12, but will out play most of the guys picked previously. Injury is a concern, so make sure you get a competent backup (Ryan, Eli, etc).

7. Philip Rivers

Rivers' season last year took many by surprise, but I see him coming close to those numbers this year. I'd have liked to see them improve their WR, but whatever.

8. Ben Rothliberger

I don't see a return to his stats two years ago, but I expect a vast improvement on last year's numbers.

9. Kurt Warner

Most people will scream 'TOO LOW!!!!', but I simply can't see him staying healthy all year again. Add to that the fact that they seem to want to be able to run the ball more with the addition of Wells (who is not a pass catching back) and I see a dip in Warner's stats a bit this year.

10. Matt Ryan

Another QB who will out perform his draft position this year. I see a lot of 3 yard TD plunges that Turner ran in turning to 3 yard dumpoffs to White and Gonzo.

11. Tony Romo

On the flip side of the Schaub/Ryan coin, I see Tony Romo. He'll get drafted too high by some and they'll kick themselves for it. Sure, he'll have some very nice games, but you can't lose a HoF WR (a PIA one though) and not suffer.

12. Carson Palmer

I think he'll be heaving up the ball quite a bit, but the loss of his safety blanket (Housh) can't be discounted. Maybe Coles can fill that void? We'll find out.

13. Matt Hasselbeck

Last year was a fluke, everything that could go wrong in Seattle did. They were ravaged by injuries, but they now start with a clean slate. Hass has a new toy in Housh, and I see Seattle returning to the team it was two years ago, rather than the shell they were last year.

14. Jay Cutler

I'm a Bears fan. They like to run and they have nothing at WR. Cutler will be a fine NFL QB. Fantasy, not so much.

15. David Garrard

I'll take a lot of flak for this, but whatever. I think a lot of people are over-rating him, much like they're over-rating Cutler. Good NFL QB, not so good Fantasy.

Just missing the cut: Matt Cassel, Eli Manning, Kyle Orton

How do you justify Warner as an injury risk and not McNabb?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Alrighty than. Since my RB rankings got decent feedback (the rankings can be found HERE), we're going to give QB's a shot next. Again, this is how I think things will fall when all is said and done at season's end. I would not draft them in this order since some of these QB's are way outside their ADP.

1. Drew Brees

I expect a lot of good things again out of the NO offense. Their Defense still isn't that good which means they still should be in a lot of shootouts. Couple that with the fact that their RB's aren't great runners, well, that bodes well for Brees' numbers.

2. Peyton Manning

Mr. Consistancy. Yes, Harrison is gone, but they still have a ton of weapons at Manning's disposal.

3. Tom Brady

I struggled with this. I'm NOT a fan of taking a chance like this, on a QB no less, just one year removed from surgery. Buyer beware here, you're investing a 2nd on a guy who may well be QB1, but just as easily could be QB10. He'd have to drop to the 4th for me to take him.

4. Donovan McNabb

Big drop in tier here, but McNabb has proven he can stay healthy last season. More importantly though, Kolb has proven he's not even close to being ready. IMO, the sky's the limit here, he's basically in a contract year (the Eagles will decide to extend his contract or not this season), they love to throw, and he got another elite weapon in Maclin. You can get him at QB 7-8, but I think he'll do much better.

5. Aaron Rodgers

Rodgers shut up his critics last year when he put up numbers that, IMO, Farve wouldn't have running the offense. With much the same players again this year, I see no reason why that will change.

6. Matt Schaub

This is the guy that can win you a championship this year. While every other guy will be grabbing QBs in the 2nd to 7th round, you'll bide your time, picking up depth and filling your starting lineup and bang, you'll grab a QB that will be drafted around QB12, but will out play most of the guys picked previously. Injury is a concern, so make sure you get a competent backup (Ryan, Eli, etc).

7. Philip Rivers

Rivers' season last year took many by surprise, but I see him coming close to those numbers this year. I'd have liked to see them improve their WR, but whatever.

8. Ben Rothliberger

I don't see a return to his stats two years ago, but I expect a vast improvement on last year's numbers.

9. Kurt Warner

Most people will scream 'TOO LOW!!!!', but I simply can't see him staying healthy all year again. Add to that the fact that they seem to want to be able to run the ball more with the addition of Wells (who is not a pass catching back) and I see a dip in Warner's stats a bit this year.

10. Matt Ryan

Another QB who will out perform his draft position this year. I see a lot of 3 yard TD plunges that Turner ran in turning to 3 yard dumpoffs to White and Gonzo.

11. Tony Romo

On the flip side of the Schaub/Ryan coin, I see Tony Romo. He'll get drafted too high by some and they'll kick themselves for it. Sure, he'll have some very nice games, but you can't lose a HoF WR (a PIA one though) and not suffer.

12. Carson Palmer

I think he'll be heaving up the ball quite a bit, but the loss of his safety blanket (Housh) can't be discounted. Maybe Coles can fill that void? We'll find out.

13. Matt Hasselbeck

Last year was a fluke, everything that could go wrong in Seattle did. They were ravaged by injuries, but they now start with a clean slate. Hass has a new toy in Housh, and I see Seattle returning to the team it was two years ago, rather than the shell they were last year.

14. Jay Cutler

I'm a Bears fan. They like to run and they have nothing at WR. Cutler will be a fine NFL QB. Fantasy, not so much.

15. David Garrard

I'll take a lot of flak for this, but whatever. I think a lot of people are over-rating him, much like they're over-rating Cutler. Good NFL QB, not so good Fantasy.

Just missing the cut: Matt Cassel, Eli Manning, Kyle Orton

How do you justify Warner as an injury risk and not McNabb?

Uh, because Warner is another concussion away from having his brain turn to mush. You do remember he's had about 150 concussions throughout his career, right?

 

[simmonjm]

Alrighty than. Since my RB rankings got decent feedback (the rankings can be found HERE), we're going to give QB's a shot next. Again, this is how I think things will fall when all is said and done at season's end. I would not draft them in this order since some of these QB's are way outside their ADP.

1. Drew Brees

I expect a lot of good things again out of the NO offense. Their Defense still isn't that good which means they still should be in a lot of shootouts. Couple that with the fact that their RB's aren't great runners, well, that bodes well for Brees' numbers.

2. Peyton Manning

Mr. Consistancy. Yes, Harrison is gone, but they still have a ton of weapons at Manning's disposal.

3. Tom Brady

I struggled with this. I'm NOT a fan of taking a chance like this, on a QB no less, just one year removed from surgery. Buyer beware here, you're investing a 2nd on a guy who may well be QB1, but just as easily could be QB10. He'd have to drop to the 4th for me to take him.

4. Donovan McNabb

Big drop in tier here, but McNabb has proven he can stay healthy last season. More importantly though, Kolb has proven he's not even close to being ready. IMO, the sky's the limit here, he's basically in a contract year (the Eagles will decide to extend his contract or not this season), they love to throw, and he got another elite weapon in Maclin. You can get him at QB 7-8, but I think he'll do much better.

5. Aaron Rodgers

Rodgers shut up his critics last year when he put up numbers that, IMO, Farve wouldn't have running the offense. With much the same players again this year, I see no reason why that will change.

6. Matt Schaub

This is the guy that can win you a championship this year. While every other guy will be grabbing QBs in the 2nd to 7th round, you'll bide your time, picking up depth and filling your starting lineup and bang, you'll grab a QB that will be drafted around QB12, but will out play most of the guys picked previously. Injury is a concern, so make sure you get a competent backup (Ryan, Eli, etc).

7. Philip Rivers

Rivers' season last year took many by surprise, but I see him coming close to those numbers this year. I'd have liked to see them improve their WR, but whatever.

8. Ben Rothliberger

I don't see a return to his stats two years ago, but I expect a vast improvement on last year's numbers.

9. Kurt Warner

Most people will scream 'TOO LOW!!!!', but I simply can't see him staying healthy all year again. Add to that the fact that they seem to want to be able to run the ball more with the addition of Wells (who is not a pass catching back) and I see a dip in Warner's stats a bit this year.

10. Matt Ryan

Another QB who will out perform his draft position this year. I see a lot of 3 yard TD plunges that Turner ran in turning to 3 yard dumpoffs to White and Gonzo.

11. Tony Romo

On the flip side of the Schaub/Ryan coin, I see Tony Romo. He'll get drafted too high by some and they'll kick themselves for it. Sure, he'll have some very nice games, but you can't lose a HoF WR (a PIA one though) and not suffer.

12. Carson Palmer

I think he'll be heaving up the ball quite a bit, but the loss of his safety blanket (Housh) can't be discounted. Maybe Coles can fill that void? We'll find out.

13. Matt Hasselbeck

Last year was a fluke, everything that could go wrong in Seattle did. They were ravaged by injuries, but they now start with a clean slate. Hass has a new toy in Housh, and I see Seattle returning to the team it was two years ago, rather than the shell they were last year.

14. Jay Cutler

I'm a Bears fan. They like to run and they have nothing at WR. Cutler will be a fine NFL QB. Fantasy, not so much.

15. David Garrard

I'll take a lot of flak for this, but whatever. I think a lot of people are over-rating him, much like they're over-rating Cutler. Good NFL QB, not so good Fantasy.

Just missing the cut: Matt Cassel, Eli Manning, Kyle Orton

How do you justify Warner as an injury risk and not McNabb?

Uh, because Warner is another concussion away from having his brain turn to mush. You do remember he's had about 150 concussions throughout his career, right?

I totally agree about Warner being an injury risk but I dont understand why you can so quickly discount McNabb's injury history. He has only played in all 16 regular season games in 4/10 seasons.

 

[gonzobill5]

Uh, because Warner is another concussion away from having his brain turn to mush. You do remember he's had about 150 concussions throughout his career, right?

I totally agree about Warner being an injury risk but I dont understand why you can so quickly discount McNabb's injury history. He has only played in all 16 regular season games in 4/10 seasons.

A tad misleading here - he sat out week 17 in 2004 and didn't start until week 4 or so his rookie year. So actually, he missed time in 4 out of 10 years, not the other way around. And even 2007, he only missed two games in the middle of the season. Warner, meanwhile, has missed time in 6 out of 9 seasons (not counting 98 or 07 which weren't injury related). That said, both are risky for the simple reason that their teams pass a ton - which I feel just makes QBs more susceptible.

 

[netnalp]

I'd put Edwards in around 12 and take Ryan out. I like Edwards because TO usually is ok for one season, 2nd season is when he starts burning bridges. To isn't quite what he was but he's still good enough and Evans is the best WR he's been paired with since Rice left the 49ers.

 

[simmonjm]

DH thanks for your rankings just to add to the conversation here is my top 15 list at QB

1. Drew Brees

Pretty much the safest bet at QB, will continually throw the ball regardless of score or situation.

2. Tom Brady

Dont really see alot of risk with Brady, really only downside is the departure of McDaniels. Barring injury I dont see how Brady doesnt finish in the top 3.

3. Matt Schaub

Such a potent offense with the trio of Slaton, Johnson, and Daniels. Will continually put up points and Slaton should be better in year 2.

4. Peyton Manning

Peyton doesnt need a head coach all he needs is Wayne, Gonzalez and Clark. The addition of Donald Brown should also help.

5. Aaron Rodgers

Rodgers has shown he can perform in this offense without restrictions thus I look for an improvement on last years numbers.

6. Carson Palmer

Coles, Ocho, and by all accounts a focused C. Henry, Palmer is a steal at his current ADP. I see him finishing in the top 10 at worst and possibly as the #1 QB.

7. Philip Rivers

A healthy LT will take away from the td numbers from last season.

8. Tony Romo

Without TO, Romo will not have to worry about how many times he has thrown to Witten versus TO. Still TO is a top 10 WR and his loss will have an effect as Dallas should transition to a more run orientated offense thus a downgrade to Romo.

9. Matt Ryan

Gonzo will have a big impact on this offense but Turner will prevent Ryan from being ranked any higher.

10. Donovan McNabb

The Eagles struck gold with D. Jackson and once again have went to the well. If Macklin performs like D Jackson then look for McNabb to finish higher. Injury concerns for Westbrook and McNabb make this a risky selection.

11. Kurt Warner

Warner had a magical season and history shows that after a magical season a regression to the mean occurs. Pending Boldin situation is also a cause for concern.

12. Matt Hasselbeck

Prior to last year Hasselbeck was an automatic top 10 QB. Injuries ravaged the Seahawks at pretty much every position so the only direction is up for this offense. Also playing the NFC West will boost fantasy numbers

13. Kyle Orton/Chris Simms

Whoever wins the starting job will be throwing the ball 30-40 times a game like Cassell did. Kind of ironic that in years past the focus was always on the Denver rb now it has shifted to qb.

14. Ben Rothliberger

I think Mendenhall and Parker step up production and Hines Ward takes a step backwards, loss of Washington will also have an effect on the offense.

15. Jay Cutler

If he had a good oline, te, and wrs like in Denver he would be ranked much higher but he doesnt.

Just missing the cut: Matt Cassel, T. Edwards, Garrard