DH top 20 RB's (1 Viewer)

[Deranged Hermit]

Alright, boring day at work means DH is thinking about his fantasy teams. Since pretty much all my leagues are PPR, my rankings will reflect that. I'll do QB and WR eventually, but here's the important one: RBs. Note this is not necessarily where I would draft them, but how I think things will fall by season's end. Obviously you'd be a fool to draft LT at three, when he could be had 5-6 picks later (according to a few mocks I've seen).

1. Maurice Jones-Drew

Again, this is PPR. I see MJD making a jump much like Westbrook did a few years ago. No Fred Taylor and a draft that focused on rebuilding the O-line makes this the number one choice for me. It was not easy though.

2. Adrian Peterson

Should probably put 1B, but that'd be a cop out. Really, there's a lot to like in Minny, but they really need to address the QB position so the defenses will at least respect the passing game.

3. LaDainian Tomlinson

I'm not ready to jump on the 'LT is done' bandwagon quite yet. I see a resurgence this year, and you very well might get him at a huge bargin price this year.

4. Matt Forte

Yeah, this might be a homer pick, but I LOVE his chances to excel this year. A poor WR corps equals many receptions out of the backfield and a ProBowl QB will keep defenses honest. He won't see 8 men in the box too much this year IMO.

5. Michael Turner

I almost dropped him a bit more, into the 7-8 range. I'm not completely sold he'll be able to hold up to the workload he did last year. I do own him in a keeper league though, so I'm hoping he can. I also see his TD's going down with the addition of Gonzo.

6. DeAngelo Williams

Yeah, he won't get a ton of receptions, but he showed a huge nose for the end zone last year and I see that continuing this year. I see CAR running all day long.

7. Frank Gore

I see a huge resurrection of his career of a stud RB this season. I see about 14 total TDs and a QB that will be dumping passes off to him a lot. You'll steal him in many drafts.

8. Knowshon Moreno

LOVE this guy's chances this year, especially in PPR. DEN's Def is a sieve and Orton will be dumping passes to him left and right. Also, Shanahan is gone, so maybe we won't have the 'back of the week' to worry about. Having Marshall and Royal to keep the opposing D's honest helps as well.

9. Chris Johnson

How could you not like what you saw from him last year? TEN will pound the ball and when the don't, expect to see a lot of dump-offs to CJ.

10. Clinton Portis

Again, like DA, I don't see a ton of receptions, but I do see a ton of yards and a lot of TDs.

11. Brian Westbrook

The only reason he's here is because it's PPR format. I love Westbrook, but the guy can't stay healthy. He'll win a few weeks for you almost by himself, than disappear to the injured list for equal amount of weeks.

12. Steve Slaton

I really like the Houston offense last year and I think Slaton will be one of the guys to benefit. I see this offense really throwing out a lot of great fantasy players (Shaub, Slaton, AJ, Walters).

13. Steven Jackson

They say you can't predict injuries, but I can't help it. I would probably draft him even lower than this, but whatever. My gut tells me he'll finish lower than this ranking, but my head won't let me rank him lower.

14. Ronnie Brown

Here's a guy I could see finishing higher than his ranking. I think, with the extra year removed from his surgery, he may pick up where he left off two years ago.

15. Reggie Bush

I personally can't stand to watch him play, much less have him on my team, but he has value in a PPR format. Be prepared for quite a few single-digit soring days though.

16. Marion Barber

How the mighty have fallen. He was quite the trendy pick last year, but not so much now. He makes a fine number 2 RB though, and could very well sneak into the top 10 when all is said and done.

17. Brandon Jacobs

PPR, RBBC and injuries cause his ranking to slip quite a bit. Could be quite the steal if things fall right though.

18. Pierre Thomas

I don't do this often, but it's appropriate in this case. I see a good amount of points out of the NO backfield this year, but you'll pull your hair out figuring out which one will get the big game week in and week out.

19. Kevin Smith

I'm not as high as some are on him, but you can't discount how strong he came on at the end of last year.

20. Joe Addai

Not quite ready to write him off yet, but I'm getting there. I strongly considered Benson and, especially, Derrick Ward here, but I'm willing to give Addai one more shot.

Alrighty, fire at will......

 

[mikel0254]

Looks pretty good. I agree Gore is going at a great value right now. Most forget he was the number 1 RB for the first 10 weeks or something close to that. With their commitment to run more, I see him ending the year top 5 if he plays a full season. I'd have SJax a little higher, but only around 10 so pretty close to where you have him. I could also see DMac making his way into the top 20 and Westbrook falling out (yes, even in PPR - injuries being the reason)

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Looks pretty good. I agree Gore is going at a great value right now. Most forget he was the number 1 RB for the first 10 weeks or something close to that. With their commitment to run more, I see him ending the year top 5 if he plays a full season. I'd have SJax a little higher, but only around 10 so pretty close to where you have him. I could also see DMac making his way into the top 20 and Westbrook falling out (yes, even in PPR - injuries being the reason)

If there's a player I want no part of, it's McFadden. I'll gladly take Fargas or Bush much later thank you.

 

[bomber]

McFadden is a fairly high risk but also a very high reward type of player. Have to take risks sometimes to win your league. I have hime as my 3rd RB and couldn't be happier. He'll be out to prove his naysayers wrong this year. I expect a very nice season out of him especially in a PPR league. Take him 5th-6th round and take it to the bank.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

McFadden is a fairly high risk but also a very high reward type of player. Have to take risks sometimes to win your league. I have hime as my 3rd RB and couldn't be happier. He'll be out to prove his naysayers wrong this year. I expect a very nice season out of him especially in a PPR league. Take him 5th-6th round and take it to the bank.

I think McF is going higher than that. I believe he went in the late 2nd, early 3rd in the recent FanEx 'Experts' draft.

 

[mikel0254]

McFadden is a fairly high risk but also a very high reward type of player. Have to take risks sometimes to win your league. I have hime as my 3rd RB and couldn't be happier. He'll be out to prove his naysayers wrong this year. I expect a very nice season out of him especially in a PPR league. Take him 5th-6th round and take it to the bank.

I think McF is going higher than that. I believe he went in the late 2nd, early 3rd in the recent FanEx 'Experts' draft.

Late 2nd or early 3rd seems real high to me. His ADP on fantastyfootballcalculator is 5.04 right now for 12 team leagues. At that price you can get him as your 3rd RB...Like bomber, I'd be happy with that

 

[Blackjacks]

Alright, boring day at work means DH is thinking about his fantasy teams. Since pretty much all my leagues are PPR, my rankings will reflect that. I'll do QB and WR eventually, but here's the important one: RBs. Note this is not necessarily where I would draft them, but how I think things will fall by season's end. Obviously you'd be a fool to draft LT at three, when he could be had 5-6 picks later (according to a few mocks I've seen).

1. Maurice Jones-Drew

Again, this is PPR. I see MJD making a jump much like Westbrook did a few years ago. No Fred Taylor and a draft that focused on rebuilding the O-line makes this the number one choice for me. It was not easy though.

2. Adrian Peterson

Should probably put 1B, but that'd be a cop out. Really, there's a lot to like in Minny, but they really need to address the QB position so the defenses will at least respect the passing game.

3. LaDainian Tomlinson

I'm not ready to jump on the 'LT is done' bandwagon quite yet. I see a resurgence this year, and you very well might get him at a huge bargin price this year.

4. Matt Forte

Yeah, this might be a homer pick, but I LOVE his chances to excel this year. A poor WR corps equals many receptions out of the backfield and a ProBowl QB will keep defenses honest. He won't see 8 men in the box too much this year IMO.

5. Michael Turner

I almost dropped him a bit more, into the 7-8 range. I'm not completely sold he'll be able to hold up to the workload he did last year. I do own him in a keeper league though, so I'm hoping he can. I also see his TD's going down with the addition of Gonzo.

6. DeAngelo Williams

Yeah, he won't get a ton of receptions, but he showed a huge nose for the end zone last year and I see that continuing this year. I see CAR running all day long.

7. Frank Gore

I see a huge resurrection of his career of a stud RB this season. I see about 14 total TDs and a QB that will be dumping passes off to him a lot. You'll steal him in many drafts.

8. Knowshon Moreno

LOVE this guy's chances this year, especially in PPR. DEN's Def is a sieve and Orton will be dumping passes to him left and right. Also, Shanahan is gone, so maybe we won't have the 'back of the week' to worry about. Having Marshall and Royal to keep the opposing D's honest helps as well.

9. Chris Johnson

How could you not like what you saw from him last year? TEN will pound the ball and when the don't, expect to see a lot of dump-offs to CJ.

10. Clinton Portis

Again, like DA, I don't see a ton of receptions, but I do see a ton of yards and a lot of TDs.

11. Brian Westbrook

The only reason he's here is because it's PPR format. I love Westbrook, but the guy can't stay healthy. He'll win a few weeks for you almost by himself, than disappear to the injured list for equal amount of weeks.

12. Steve Slaton

I really like the Houston offense last year and I think Slaton will be one of the guys to benefit. I see this offense really throwing out a lot of great fantasy players (Shaub, Slaton, AJ, Walters).

13. Steven Jackson

They say you can't predict injuries, but I can't help it. I would probably draft him even lower than this, but whatever. My gut tells me he'll finish lower than this ranking, but my head won't let me rank him lower.

14. Ronnie Brown

Here's a guy I could see finishing higher than his ranking. I think, with the extra year removed from his surgery, he may pick up where he left off two years ago.

15. Reggie Bush

I personally can't stand to watch him play, much less have him on my team, but he has value in a PPR format. Be prepared for quite a few single-digit soring days though.

16. Marion Barber

How the mighty have fallen. He was quite the trendy pick last year, but not so much now. He makes a fine number 2 RB though, and could very well sneak into the top 10 when all is said and done.

17. Brandon Jacobs

PPR, RBBC and injuries cause his ranking to slip quite a bit. Could be quite the steal if things fall right though.

18. Pierre Thomas

I don't do this often, but it's appropriate in this case. I see a good amount of points out of the NO backfield this year, but you'll pull your hair out figuring out which one will get the big game week in and week out.

19. Kevin Smith

I'm not as high as some are on him, but you can't discount how strong he came on at the end of last year.

20. Joe Addai

Not quite ready to write him off yet, but I'm getting there. I strongly considered Benson and, especially, Derrick Ward here, but I'm willing to give Addai one more shot.

Alrighty, fire at will......

Not a bad listred = too high

green = too low

 

[RudeDog]

I like the list.

Only one caveat though, picking an unproven rookie in the top 10 is stretching in my opinion.

Other than that, Ilike the MoJo pick and the Ronnie Brown pick (although Brown might be a little higher). I also agree that trying to choose between Pierre and Reggie week in and week out could be ulcerous.

Nice job.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Alright, boring day at work means DH is thinking about his fantasy teams. Since pretty much all my leagues are PPR, my rankings will reflect that. I'll do QB and WR eventually, but here's the important one: RBs. Note this is not necessarily where I would draft them, but how I think things will fall by season's end. Obviously you'd be a fool to draft LT at three, when he could be had 5-6 picks later (according to a few mocks I've seen).

1. Maurice Jones-Drew

Again, this is PPR. I see MJD making a jump much like Westbrook did a few years ago. No Fred Taylor and a draft that focused on rebuilding the O-line makes this the number one choice for me. It was not easy though.

2. Adrian Peterson

Should probably put 1B, but that'd be a cop out. Really, there's a lot to like in Minny, but they really need to address the QB position so the defenses will at least respect the passing game.

3. LaDainian Tomlinson

I'm not ready to jump on the 'LT is done' bandwagon quite yet. I see a resurgence this year, and you very well might get him at a huge bargin price this year.

4. Matt Forte

Yeah, this might be a homer pick, but I LOVE his chances to excel this year. A poor WR corps equals many receptions out of the backfield and a ProBowl QB will keep defenses honest. He won't see 8 men in the box too much this year IMO.

5. Michael Turner

I almost dropped him a bit more, into the 7-8 range. I'm not completely sold he'll be able to hold up to the workload he did last year. I do own him in a keeper league though, so I'm hoping he can. I also see his TD's going down with the addition of Gonzo.

6. DeAngelo Williams

Yeah, he won't get a ton of receptions, but he showed a huge nose for the end zone last year and I see that continuing this year. I see CAR running all day long.

7. Frank Gore

I see a huge resurrection of his career of a stud RB this season. I see about 14 total TDs and a QB that will be dumping passes off to him a lot. You'll steal him in many drafts.

8. Knowshon Moreno

LOVE this guy's chances this year, especially in PPR. DEN's Def is a sieve and Orton will be dumping passes to him left and right. Also, Shanahan is gone, so maybe we won't have the 'back of the week' to worry about. Having Marshall and Royal to keep the opposing D's honest helps as well.

9. Chris Johnson

How could you not like what you saw from him last year? TEN will pound the ball and when the don't, expect to see a lot of dump-offs to CJ.

10. Clinton Portis

Again, like DA, I don't see a ton of receptions, but I do see a ton of yards and a lot of TDs.

11. Brian Westbrook

The only reason he's here is because it's PPR format. I love Westbrook, but the guy can't stay healthy. He'll win a few weeks for you almost by himself, than disappear to the injured list for equal amount of weeks.

12. Steve Slaton

I really like the Houston offense last year and I think Slaton will be one of the guys to benefit. I see this offense really throwing out a lot of great fantasy players (Shaub, Slaton, AJ, Walters).

13. Steven Jackson

They say you can't predict injuries, but I can't help it. I would probably draft him even lower than this, but whatever. My gut tells me he'll finish lower than this ranking, but my head won't let me rank him lower.

14. Ronnie Brown

Here's a guy I could see finishing higher than his ranking. I think, with the extra year removed from his surgery, he may pick up where he left off two years ago.

15. Reggie Bush

I personally can't stand to watch him play, much less have him on my team, but he has value in a PPR format. Be prepared for quite a few single-digit soring days though.

16. Marion Barber

How the mighty have fallen. He was quite the trendy pick last year, but not so much now. He makes a fine number 2 RB though, and could very well sneak into the top 10 when all is said and done.

17. Brandon Jacobs

PPR, RBBC and injuries cause his ranking to slip quite a bit. Could be quite the steal if things fall right though.

18. Pierre Thomas

I don't do this often, but it's appropriate in this case. I see a good amount of points out of the NO backfield this year, but you'll pull your hair out figuring out which one will get the big game week in and week out.

19. Kevin Smith

I'm not as high as some are on him, but you can't discount how strong he came on at the end of last year.

20. Joe Addai

Not quite ready to write him off yet, but I'm getting there. I strongly considered Benson and, especially, Derrick Ward here, but I'm willing to give Addai one more shot.

Alrighty, fire at will......

Not a bad listred = too high

green = too low

I expected to get beaten up on Jackson. I just think he'll be effect when he's healthy, but I don't see that happening too often.Bush, well, I see Thomas cutting too deep to rank him higher.

CJ, I can see higher, but I like the other guys better. Plus he loses a lot of scoring to Lendale White.

As for LT and Forte, well, I like their situations a lot. Forte I'm wishy-washy on, but I firmly believe LT will be fine this year.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I like the list.Only one caveat though, picking an unproven rookie in the top 10 is stretching in my opinion.Other than that, Ilike the MoJo pick and the Ronnie Brown pick (although Brown might be a little higher). I also agree that trying to choose between Pierre and Reggie week in and week out could be ulcerous.Nice job.

Moreno has a great situation to be in , IMO. I think you'll get RB1 play out of a RB you can get in the 3rd round. The Broncos have a very good O-line and love to run. If you could grab a player like DeAngelo in the 1st, Wayne in the 2nd and Moreno in the 3rd, I think you'd be well on your way to a championship.

 

[Biabreakable]

ulcerous.

What an awesome word. One of the better lists I've seen DH.

 

[Buffaloes]

4. Matt Forte

Yeah, this might be a homer pick, but I LOVE his chances to excel this year. A poor WR corps equals many receptions out of the backfield and a ProBowl QB will keep defenses honest. He won't see 8 men in the box too much this year IMO.

Not a bad listred = too high

green = too low

Blackjacks-Forte at 4 in PPR seems about right to me. Do you see Kevin Jones taking on a more significant role this year?

 

[Blackjacks]

4. Matt Forte

Yeah, this might be a homer pick, but I LOVE his chances to excel this year. A poor WR corps equals many receptions out of the backfield and a ProBowl QB will keep defenses honest. He won't see 8 men in the box too much this year IMO.

Not a bad listred = too high

green = too low

Blackjacks-Forte at 4 in PPR seems about right to me. Do you see Kevin Jones taking on a more significant role this year?

No, not woried about K. Jones but I do think they pass alot more this year with Cutler. I also don't see Forte getting the majority of touches he did last year and as good as he was last year I can't really say I think he is a great rb. Again, I like Forte, but to put his value so high this year just becuase he had a great year last year isn't fair. I think the bar is set to high for him. He will be good......a top 13 back in ppr but to expect more out of him than Jackosn, Johnson and Slaton is just not fair. Your setting him up to fail IMO.Forte is a 20 carry-80 yards type back with a td every once in awhile.

 

[AnonymousBob]

It seems Westbrook and SJax are both injury concerns, yet you seem to have held that against SJax a bit more than Westbrook.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

It seems Westbrook and SJax are both injury concerns, yet you seem to have held that against SJax a bit more than Westbrook.

In light of the new Westy info, I'll drop him a lot more, probably in the 17 range.ETA: I probably have maybe 6 or 7 points separating Westy, Slaton and S-Jax.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I'll probably be doing top 15 QBs today. WR's on Monday or Tuesday.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I would move Steven Jackson up.

To me the question isn't "how many total points will Jackson have at the end of the year", the question is "how many total points will Jackson + whoever I get to replace him when he's out have."

Would you want say: 12 weeks of Steven Jackson at say 16PPG + 4 weeks of McFadden at 8PPG (about 225 total points)

OR

16 weeks of Portis at 225 points.

I'm of the opinion you go with Jackson, because worst case he misses a month and the total output from the position is equal to guys like Portis or Gore. But if he by some miracle stays healthy for 16 games you're talking about the #1 or #2 RB. So to me it's a low risk, high reward proposition.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I would move Steven Jackson up. To me the question isn't "how many total points will Jackson have at the end of the year", the question is "how many total points will Jackson + whoever I get to replace him when he's out have." Would you want say: 12 weeks of Steven Jackson at say 16PPG + 4 weeks of McFadden at 8PPG (about 225 total points) OR 16 weeks of Portis at 225 points.I'm of the opinion you go with Jackson, because worst case he misses a month and the total output from the position is equal to guys like Portis or Gore. But if he by some miracle stays healthy for 16 games you're talking about the #1 or #2 RB. So to me it's a low risk, high reward proposition.

I see what you're saying, but these are VERY early rankings. In light of yesterday's news, I'd drop Westy from 11 to 17 (or even out of the top 20). S-Jax will move up when I see how he's doing in camp. If he's healthy and looking good, he'll move up. Heck, he already moved up one spot by default.

 

[switz]

Forte at 4 in PPR seems about right to me. Do you see Kevin Jones taking on a more significant role this year?

Forte is simply not a good running back. To me he's more of a third down back, or backup material. Sure he had 1,200 yards last season, but he was extremely ineffective as a runner. With Cutler in town, I'd expect Forte's rushing attempts to decline, and his production was very dependent on a high number of attempts. Think of guys like Antowain Smith or Kareem Abdul Jabbar as runners. Low YPC, one or two decent years, and then replaced.

 

[gregjcross]

Forte at 4 in PPR seems about right to me. Do you see Kevin Jones taking on a more significant role this year?

Forte is simply not a good running back. To me he's more of a third down back, or backup material. Sure he had 1,200 yards last season, but he was extremely ineffective as a runner. With Cutler in town, I'd expect Forte's rushing attempts to decline, and his production was very dependent on a high number of attempts. Think of guys like Antowain Smith or Kareem Abdul Jabbar as runners. Low YPC, one or two decent years, and then replaced.

It might be more accurate to say, Forte is not as good as people think based on the breakout statistics that came practically from nowhere considering the sad state of the Bears offensive line in August/September of 2008. But, he is a good player, solid but unspectacular, and if he was as limited as a third down back he would have shared carries or not held up.

 

[Almas_4th_Child]

Forte at 4 in PPR seems about right to me. Do you see Kevin Jones taking on a more significant role this year?

Forte is simply not a good running back. To me he's more of a third down back, or backup material. Sure he had 1,200 yards last season, but he was extremely ineffective as a runner. With Cutler in town, I'd expect Forte's rushing attempts to decline, and his production was very dependent on a high number of attempts. Think of guys like Antowain Smith or Kareem Abdul Jabbar as runners. Low YPC, one or two decent years, and then replaced.

a 6'2 222 pound 3rd down back?If you watched the games, you would see he was more ineffective because of the offense: aging offensive line(added Pace, Schaffer, Omiyale, and essentially Chris Williams), QB play not keeping defenses honest (fixed with Cutler), and WR's (with Cutler and Hester developing, Bennett, and talented rookies....hey it couldn't be worse than Brandon lloyd and Marty Booker right?).He is a much better RB than Felix Jones, Switz.

 

[Day Drinker]

Forte at 4 in PPR seems about right to me. Do you see Kevin Jones taking on a more significant role this year?

Forte is simply not a good running back. To me he's more of a third down back, or backup material. Sure he had 1,200 yards last season, but he was extremely ineffective as a runner. With Cutler in town, I'd expect Forte's rushing attempts to decline, and his production was very dependent on a high number of attempts. Think of guys like Antowain Smith or Kareem Abdul Jabbar as runners. Low YPC, one or two decent years, and then replaced.

Forte is definately not the most talented RB in the league, but saying he is not a good RB is ridiculous IMO. That being said, from a fantasy perspective he has a number of reasons to be highly ranked IMO. He has ZERO competition for carries, is in a run first offense, he has great hands (and the Bears expoit it), and his QB just improved. I don't see any major reason to downgrade him substantially from his 2008 numbers. An easy 1st round pick IMO.

 

[switz]

Forte at 4 in PPR seems about right to me. Do you see Kevin Jones taking on a more significant role this year?

Forte is simply not a good running back. To me he's more of a third down back, or backup material. Sure he had 1,200 yards last season, but he was extremely ineffective as a runner. With Cutler in town, I'd expect Forte's rushing attempts to decline, and his production was very dependent on a high number of attempts. Think of guys like Antowain Smith or Kareem Abdul Jabbar as runners. Low YPC, one or two decent years, and then replaced.

a 6'2 222 pound 3rd down back?

Size doesn't make a third down back. Neither does durability. Putting players in the place where they make the most impact is what slots some as 3rd down RBs. And if the Bears can get a better runner, then Forte will become a third down back. He's a very good receiver, has enough strength to move the pile on short yardage downs. He's just not a game breaker that you want as your starter.

If you watched the games, you would see he was more ineffective because of the offense: aging offensive line(added Pace, Schaffer, Omiyale, and essentially Chris Williams), QB play not keeping defenses honest (fixed with Cutler), and WR's (with Cutler and Hester developing, Bennett, and talented rookies....hey it couldn't be worse than Brandon lloyd and Marty Booker right?).

Of course, if I was only going by stats, I might think he was the next LaDainian Tomlinson, since their rookie seasons were very similar.I saw enough of Forte in college to know what to expect of him in the pros. You are either a Bears fan, or drafted Forte in your league. He's an average back at best, has good hands which made him effective in the passing game. However, as a runner he's not great, not near great.

He is a much better RB than Felix Jones, Switz.

And you said 'If you watched games...'

 

[AnonymousBob]

I don't think he's without talent but I do agree with switz that he's nothing special. In a redraft (which I believe this thread is about), I wouldn't have any issue drafting him fairly high (but certainly not before SJax). In dynasty leagues I'm extremely wary about this kid.

 

[Day Drinker]

I don't think he's without talent but I do agree with switz that he's nothing special. In a redraft (which I believe this thread is about), I wouldn't have any issue drafting him fairly high (but certainly not before SJax). In dynasty leagues I'm extremely wary about this kid.

As a ROOKIE he was the #1 overall RB in PPR leagues. That alone is pretty special. Add to that fact that the only changes have been imrovement to the O-Line and improvement to the QB position and I feel really good about taking Forte over S Jackson and his strained quad/hammy/calf in week 6. I do expect less receptions for Forte this year because of the QB switch, but the improved offense should make up for that with longer drives and more TD chances.

 

[Gopher State]

Looks pretty good. I agree Gore is going at a great value right now. Most forget he was the number 1 RB for the first 10 weeks or something close to that. With their commitment to run more, I see him ending the year top 5 if he plays a full season. I'd have SJax a little higher, but only around 10 so pretty close to where you have him. I could also see DMac making his way into the top 20 and Westbrook falling out (yes, even in PPR - injuries being the reason)

If there's a player I want no part of, it's McFadden. I'll gladly take Fargas or Bush much later thank you.

Agreed I stay away from McFadden, in fact many think Bush is the best RB the Raiders have.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I don't think he's without talent but I do agree with switz that he's nothing special. In a redraft (which I believe this thread is about), I wouldn't have any issue drafting him fairly high (but certainly not before SJax). In dynasty leagues I'm extremely wary about this kid.

As a ROOKIE he was the #1 overall RB in PPR leagues. That alone is pretty special. Add to that fact that the only changes have been imrovement to the O-Line and improvement to the QB position and I feel really good about taking Forte over S Jackson and his strained quad/hammy/calf in week 6. I do expect less receptions for Forte this year because of the QB switch, but the improved offense should make up for that with longer drives and more TD chances.

You can give any rb enough touches and as long as they stay healthy they'll perform at a good level. Again, I see no reason to not grab him in redrafts, but in dynasties I tend to agree with switz, EBF, and other doubters.I can see Cutler actually hurting his numbers this year because instead of dumping it to the rb he might toss it deep to Hester. Turner is still running the offense though, so I can't imagine his numbers will dip THAT much.And simply because he was healthy all of last year does not make him any more likely to stay healthy this season.

 

[Almas_4th_Child]

Forte is simply not a good running back. To me he's more of a third down back, or backup material. Sure he had 1,200 yards last season, but he was extremely ineffective as a runner. With Cutler in town, I'd expect Forte's rushing attempts to decline, and his production was very dependent on a high number of attempts. Think of guys like Antowain Smith or Kareem Abdul Jabbar as runners. Low YPC, one or two decent years, and then replaced.

a 6'2 222 pound 3rd down back?

Size doesn't make a third down back. Neither does durability. Putting players in the place where they make the most impact is what slots some as 3rd down RBs. And if the Bears can get a better runner, then Forte will become a third down back. He's a very good receiver, has enough strength to move the pile on short yardage downs. He's just not a game breaker that you want as your starter.Who says you need a gamebreaker as your starting RB? There are only so many Chris Johnson 4.24 RB's. If he can catch well, averaged 4 yards a carry on a bad offense, and has enough strength to move the pile....isn't that enough out of your starting RB?

If you watched the games, you would see he was more ineffective because of the offense: aging offensive line(added Pace, Schaffer, Omiyale, and essentially Chris Williams), QB play not keeping defenses honest (fixed with Cutler), and WR's (with Cutler and Hester developing, Bennett, and talented rookies....hey it couldn't be worse than Brandon lloyd and Marty Booker right?).

Of course, if I was only going by stats, I might think he was the next LaDainian Tomlinson, since their rookie seasons were very similar.I saw enough of Forte in college to know what to expect of him in the pros. You are either a Bears fan, or drafted Forte in your league. He's an average back at best, has good hands which made him effective in the passing game. However, as a runner he's not great, not near great.

Never said he will be great switz, my stand is that he is good. You stated that he isn't a good RB and that is where you are wrong.

He is a much better RB than Felix Jones, Switz.

And you said 'If you watched games...'

Perhaps if Felix was healthy I could've watched more of his games, but your boy just couldn't stay on the field.

 

[RudeDog]

Of course, if I was only going by stats, I might think he was the next LaDainian Tomlinson, since their rookie seasons were very similar.I saw enough of Forte in college to know what to expect of him in the pros. You are either a Bears fan, or drafted Forte in your league. He's an average back at best, has good hands which made him effective in the passing game. However, as a runner he's not great, not near great.

He has similar talents as Franko Harris had. Let me see........ isn't he in the Hall of Fame ?Raw talent is nice to have, but Forte has the ability to always make yardage. He runs well in a crowd and has enough speed to consistently rip off a 20 yard gain. He blocks well, catches well and is a "football" player. He may never break into the top 5, but he should consistently be top 10 to 15.A more recent similar back would be Rudi Johnson. Not flashy, but effective.

 

[Blue-Kun]

He has similar talents as Franko Harris had. Let me see........ isn't he in the Hall of Fame ?

This has to be shtick.

 

[therokie0070]

I love how if LT does not get 32 TD and 2000 yards everyone thinks he is done, he played hurt all year and was still a top back with 12 TD and 1500 yards. Another impressive stat is LT has only fumbled 2 in two years and recovered the ball twice (zero fumble loses with over 700 touches WOW), not much in fantasy but huge in football. I predict he will get 300 carries for 1400 yards 40 catches for 400 yards and a total of 17 TD!!!!

 

[Faker]

Wow. No Marshawn Lynch in the top 20? He's going to be huge value this year.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Wow. No Marshawn Lynch in the top 20? He's going to be huge value this year.

1. This is PPR2. He's suspended 4 games.

 

[bcr8f]

1. Maurice Jones-DrewAgain, this is PPR. I see MJD making a jump much like Westbrook did a few years ago.

Nice job thanks for the work but I don't see any similarities here.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

1. Maurice Jones-DrewAgain, this is PPR. I see MJD making a jump much like Westbrook did a few years ago.

Nice job thanks for the work but I don't see any similarities here.

Glad you shared that opinion. Care to unpack it?

 

[mikel0254]

I love how if LT does not get 32 TD and 2000 yards everyone thinks he is done, he played hurt all year and was still a top back with 12 TD and 1500 yards. Another impressive stat is LT has only fumbled 2 in two years and recovered the ball twice (zero fumble loses with over 700 touches WOW), not much in fantasy but huge in football. I predict he will get 300 carries for 1400 yards 40 catches for 400 yards and a total of 17 TD!!!!

He's ranked 3rd on the list.....Are you saying he'll be better than ADP? MJD? I can see him outperforming MJD but not ADP. Your post makes it look like everyone in here is down on LT or something. From what I can see, the only one who said anything is Blackjack, and all he said was ranked too high (but nothing more)

 

[bostonfred]

10. Clinton PortisAgain, like DA, I don't see a ton of receptions, but I do see a ton of yards and a lot of TDs.

Portis had 47 catches 2 years ago, and 28 last year. He's averaged over 30 for his career. That's not a ton of receptions, but it's not bad.

 

[mikel0254]

10. Clinton PortisAgain, like DA, I don't see a ton of receptions, but I do see a ton of yards and a lot of TDs.

Portis had 47 catches 2 years ago, and 28 last year. He's averaged over 30 for his career. That's not a ton of receptions, but it's not bad.

Portis only got 10 receptions in the last 7 games of the season. I think Betts is now the 3rd down back, especially in obvious passing situations (homers chime in - I could be wrong about that b/c I never watch WAS, but that's what it seems like)

 

[kremenull]

Forte at 4 in PPR seems about right to me. Do you see Kevin Jones taking on a more significant role this year?

Forte is simply not a good running back. To me he's more of a third down back, or backup material. Sure he had 1,200 yards last season, but he was extremely ineffective as a runner. With Cutler in town, I'd expect Forte's rushing attempts to decline, and his production was very dependent on a high number of attempts. Think of guys like Antowain Smith or Kareem Abdul Jabbar as runners. Low YPC, one or two decent years, and then replaced.

Who says that you have to be deemed a 'special" RB, and who even knows what your definition of "special" is, to be a very effective RB in the NFL, for many years. Guys like Marcus Allen, Priest Holmes, Shawn Alexander, Curtis Martin, and even Terrell Davis and Emmitt Smith, I wouldn't consider these guys overly special as far as pure physical talent, but one thing that they did possess, and which I believe Forte does as well, is great football instincts and determination. Some things can't be measured with the naked eye, but don't get me wrong, these guys all had great ability as well. It's just that if you're looking for some physical trait that just pops out on the screen to confirm their "greatness", or "specialness", then that type of narrow vision may never see what made/makes these kind of guys special. The point that Switz seems to be making here is that if you are not an electrifying runner, you simply aren't that good.....And that is what I am saying is total HOGWASH! Forte is special, in his own right. This kid will be around for years, performing at a high level, barring injury.

 

[Ilov80s]

Alright, boring day at work means DH is thinking about his fantasy teams. Since pretty much all my leagues are PPR, my rankings will reflect that. I'll do QB and WR eventually, but here's the important one: RBs. Note this is not necessarily where I would draft them, but how I think things will fall by season's end. Obviously you'd be a fool to draft LT at three, when he could be had 5-6 picks later (according to a few mocks I've seen).

Alrighty, fire at will......

If you believed that LT was the 3rd best back, you would not be crazy to take him at 3. If you have the 3rd pick, then its the only shot you'll have to draft LT. Why draft a player you believe is inferior just because that player's ADP is 3 spots later?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Alright, boring day at work means DH is thinking about his fantasy teams. Since pretty much all my leagues are PPR, my rankings will reflect that. I'll do QB and WR eventually, but here's the important one: RBs. Note this is not necessarily where I would draft them, but how I think things will fall by season's end. Obviously you'd be a fool to draft LT at three, when he could be had 5-6 picks later (according to a few mocks I've seen).

Alrighty, fire at will......

If you believed that LT was the 3rd best back, you would not be crazy to take him at 3. If you have the 3rd pick, then its the only shot you'll have to draft LT. Why draft a player you believe is inferior just because that player's ADP is 3 spots later?

My point is: LT's ADP is around 8-10 right now (last I looked about a week ago). If you had 1.3, you could trade down to 1.5-1.7 and still more than likely get him. You get the guy you want and pick up an additional pick later.

 

[gonzobill5]

Alright, boring day at work means DH is thinking about his fantasy teams. Since pretty much all my leagues are PPR, my rankings will reflect that. I'll do QB and WR eventually, but here's the important one: RBs. Note this is not necessarily where I would draft them, but how I think things will fall by season's end. Obviously you'd be a fool to draft LT at three, when he could be had 5-6 picks later (according to a few mocks I've seen).

Alrighty, fire at will......

If you believed that LT was the 3rd best back, you would not be crazy to take him at 3. If you have the 3rd pick, then its the only shot you'll have to draft LT. Why draft a player you believe is inferior just because that player's ADP is 3 spots later?

My point is: LT's ADP is around 8-10 right now (last I looked about a week ago). If you had 1.3, you could trade down to 1.5-1.7 and still more than likely get him. You get the guy you want and pick up an additional pick later.

Every year I hope to do this, and no one ever will give close to fair value. Same thing is going to happen this year I bet. I'd be very happy with DeAngelo as my RB1, and I like him so much I might take him with my 2nd or 3rd. Sucks, but its better than trading back a spot too far and missing out.

 

[FUBAR]

Alright, boring day at work means DH is thinking about his fantasy teams. Since pretty much all my leagues are PPR, my rankings will reflect that. I'll do QB and WR eventually, but here's the important one: RBs. Note this is not necessarily where I would draft them, but how I think things will fall by season's end. Obviously you'd be a fool to draft LT at three, when he could be had 5-6 picks later (according to a few mocks I've seen).

Alrighty, fire at will......

If you believed that LT was the 3rd best back, you would not be crazy to take him at 3. If you have the 3rd pick, then its the only shot you'll have to draft LT. Why draft a player you believe is inferior just because that player's ADP is 3 spots later?

My point is: LT's ADP is around 8-10 right now (last I looked about a week ago). If you had 1.3, you could trade down to 1.5-1.7 and still more than likely get him. You get the guy you want and pick up an additional pick later.

Every year I hope to do this, and no one ever will give close to fair value. Same thing is going to happen this year I bet. I'd be very happy with DeAngelo as my RB1, and I like him so much I might take him with my 2nd or 3rd. Sucks, but its better than trading back a spot too far and missing out.

If you can trade back and get the player you see as worth the current pick, getting anything is a good move. Of course, you'd have to know you would still get him. But, this is why auction >> draft.

 

[gonzobill5]

Alright, boring day at work means DH is thinking about his fantasy teams. Since pretty much all my leagues are PPR, my rankings will reflect that. I'll do QB and WR eventually, but here's the important one: RBs. Note this is not necessarily where I would draft them, but how I think things will fall by season's end. Obviously you'd be a fool to draft LT at three, when he could be had 5-6 picks later (according to a few mocks I've seen).

Alrighty, fire at will......

If you believed that LT was the 3rd best back, you would not be crazy to take him at 3. If you have the 3rd pick, then its the only shot you'll have to draft LT. Why draft a player you believe is inferior just because that player's ADP is 3 spots later?

My point is: LT's ADP is around 8-10 right now (last I looked about a week ago). If you had 1.3, you could trade down to 1.5-1.7 and still more than likely get him. You get the guy you want and pick up an additional pick later.

Every year I hope to do this, and no one ever will give close to fair value. Same thing is going to happen this year I bet. I'd be very happy with DeAngelo as my RB1, and I like him so much I might take him with my 2nd or 3rd. Sucks, but its better than trading back a spot too far and missing out.

If you can trade back and get the player you see as worth the current pick, getting anything is a good move. Of course, you'd have to know you would still get him. But, this is why auction >> draft.

I hear you. My point is I want to get around fair value in case I don't get my guy. I remember when LJ, Alexander, and LT were the consensus 1,2 and 3. I liked LT and LJ, but not Alexander (though I had no idea he'd drop like he did). My pick came up at 3 and of course LT and LJ were gone. I tried like hell to trade it but couldn't, and I got a couple people deriding me for going with Westy. Point is, when people know what you are trying to do, they seem to hold the upper hand.