On Edwards' 63 yard reception yesterday, it seemed to me as though he was running extremely slow. He had nothing but open feild in front of him but was tracked down pretty quickly by Polamalu and...hopefully it was because of the camera angle...but I swear Clark Haggans was keeping pace with Edwards down the sideline. Anybody else see this?
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Did Braylon look slow (1 Viewer)
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Shrek
Having a great season
I commented to a friend I was watching the games with that he looked like a defensive lineman who had just had an INT fall in his lap and finally realized he should rumble toward the endzone. Easily the slowest run after catch I have seen by a starting WR in some time.
Construction Man Jim
Footballguy
Braylon was never a burner (I think he was a 4.45 guy coming out of college). And he's still not 100%. But it doesn't matter. His game was never about pure speed. He's using his size and strength advantage and playing well. As the knee improves he'll only get better.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
I didn't notice with relation to Haggans, but Troy had the angle on him and it's pretty rare that Troy can't track someone down with that much ground to cover.
I'll watch again tonight and comment.
I'll watch again tonight and comment.
Knight who says Ni
Footballguy
I remember watching the game and thinking, "whoa, that Palomalu guy is frikin fast." Troy looked like he was launched from a Trebuchet - he was that fast relative to Edwards.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
It seemed to me that Edwards kind of "hot dogged" it once he got by Taylor, thinking he was in for the score. I could be wrong but that was my initial thought while watching the game.
Righetti
Footballguy
PizzaDeliveryGuy
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He looked incredibly slow the whole way on that play. Even before anyone was in the picture, it looked like he was running in mud.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I watched the play again last night and I was wrong. Edwards saw Polamalu coming and slowed down hoping that he would run past him and miss.
He was not "hot dogging" as I suggested in my previous post.
He was not "hot dogging" as I suggested in my previous post.
I was laughed at for saying that because of the blown knee, we won't really be able to judge Braylon until 2009. Well, from all reports I've heard he still is not fully healthy. He tore it late in 2005. It won't probably be late 2007 until he is ok. So we will be able to see what he has in 2008 and can make a judgment in 2009. That's how its working out.I don't think its even been a year since he blew out his knee. Sure, he came back very early and that was impressive. But that's no guarantee that he will be 100% quickly. Coming back so fast could result in a setback, too.
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This was my reaction when I first saw the play as well. When they replayed it from another angle with a front view of Braylon there is no doubt in my mind that he was giving it his all. I'm thinking that getting back to full speed after adjusting to make someone miss was the reason he looked slow.
phillzphan
Footballguy
I completely agree with you that he "looked" slow. I think he was taking it slow on purpose. He had lots of room ahead of him and he was trying to mix up his speed
. Thats really my only answer because on every other play he looks a-blazin'.He looks fast and strong on nearly every play. Future stud if Frye can get better.
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I disagree. The reality is that one expects to be out for a full year with a torn knee. Then you need probably another year to reach your best physical condition. That means one should without judgement on Braylon Edwards until late 2007. But to be honest, you aren't gonna learn much from 3 games. What has happened here is the "rookie season" that we use to evaluate a player won't happen for him until 2008. And its best to be patient and let that full season play out before making judgements. So we won't be able to pass judgement until 2009.Righetti said:
In fantasy terms, I recommend cutting Braylon Edwards immediately when he tore his knee because you are going to have to wait until 2009 to be able to make a FF decision on the guy. That's just too long. People on the whole are extremely impatient. That impatience means that if you really wanted him, wait for him to get cut around late 2006 to late 2007. THAT'S when you go grab him and stash him on your dynasty roster again.
The people who cut him now are the guys you prey on.
The people who cut him now are the guys you prey on.
phillzphan
Footballguy
making judgments? that guy has played great. he is catching the long ball and getting open deep. getting open in the middle and being able to get past the first hit. he has played very well with a mediocre QB. his biggest problem? drops. that has nothing to do with his knee. he's a great player and he's only going to get better. no need to wait on the analysis.phillzphan
Footballguy
How do you know the drops don't have anything to do with his knee? Its actually common for one problem to cause a player to overcompensate in another area and cause an unrelated issue somwhere else. Perhaps he is worried about his knee and not focusing on catching these days. I can't crawl inside his head to be able to tell you if it is so in this case, but I also don't think you can make your definitive statement, either.
Yah I agree he's making an impact - he's impacting the fantasy football in such a negative way that people are starting threads to bash him. Which is a prelude to seeing people cut the guy. Which like I said are the people you prey on because I expect this bashing to get worse.
Righetti
Footballguy
i'm by BGP who I usually agree with.
You might think that he won't reach his total potential as an NFL player until 2009 but I think its ridiculous to think that a guy who will go for about 1000+ yards this year and could get to 1200+ yards next year will not be a guy we can evaluate until 2009..
I can evaluate him now.. He was getting a grasp of the game before his injury, he has come back and proven everybody wrong this year and looks like he's on his way to solid NFL receiver numbers this year.. He will a third-year receiver next year and even if you eliminate an entire year he would be a "third year" receiver in 2008.. which would be plenty of time to see what he's got..
by BGP who I usually agree with.You might think that he won't reach his total potential as an NFL player until 2009 but I think its ridiculous to think that a guy who will go for about 1000+ yards this year and could get to 1200+ yards next year will not be a guy we can evaluate until 2009..
I can evaluate him now.. He was getting a grasp of the game before his injury, he has come back and proven everybody wrong this year and looks like he's on his way to solid NFL receiver numbers this year.. He will a third-year receiver next year and even if you eliminate an entire year he would be a "third year" receiver in 2008.. which would be plenty of time to see what he's got..
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Righetti
Footballguy
take Edge for an example2001 year he got Injured 2002 277/989/22003 310/1259/11 (in 13 games)2004 334/1548/9he was back to form in 2003 and proved it again in 2004.take Braylon on the same track2005 year he got injured2006 should put up about 1000 yards2007 should be back to form2008 no reason to think he should not be on top of his game totallyno reason to think that we won't know who this guy is 4 years after his injury
