Did Hasselback fumble (1 Viewer)

[eefflrat]

Any way that fumble gets changed to an INT after review today by Elias? One guy I am fighting for the last playoff spot won by 1 point, if it gets changed he loses. Just curious.

 

[NOONAN]

Any way that fumble gets changed to an INT after review today by Elias? One guy I am fighting for the last playoff spot won by 1 point, if it gets changed he loses. Just curious.

IIRC, it was originally being called an INT, then changed to fumble after video review. That could have just been the announcers, though. It looked like a fumble to me

 

[videoguy505]

It was originally ruled an INT, then changed to a fumble during the game. I doubt it gets changed back.

 

[eefflrat]

wow, thanks guys, I didn't really take a close look at the play, but if it was initially ruled an INT I am sure they will at least take another look at it then. You never know.

 

[Super King]

i still think it was a INT. his arm was moving foward when the ball released. maybe im still upset that i almost lost bc of that play. KGB was the one who was credited with the "forced fumble". that was a 10pt play for him. complaining completed

 

[MrPack]

i still think it was a INT. his arm was moving foward when the ball released. maybe im still upset that i almost lost bc of that play. KGB was the one who was credited with the "forced fumble". that was a 10pt play for him. complaining completed

No way in hell that was an INT. The ball came out while his arm was back. Pretty easy call if you saw it.

 

[mad sweeney]

i still think it was a INT. his arm was moving foward when the ball released. maybe im still upset that i almost lost bc of that play. KGB was the one who was credited with the "forced fumble". that was a 10pt play for him. complaining completed

That is incorrect. Hass arm was going backwards when it was hit out by KGB. His ar continued through with the motion but the ball was gone by then. It was KGB's omentum that pushed the ball forward. The ref tossed the beanbag on th eground indicating fumble. The only people to originally call it an INT were the clueless morons in the booth. Sack, fumble, fumble recovery in the air, TD.

 

[Marc Levin]

Any way that fumble gets changed to an INT after review today by Elias?

No - no chance in heck.The ball was not raised to be thrown, it was knocked out of Hass' hands before it was raised to be thrown - a ball knocked forward out of a player's hands and directly into another players' hands does not become an INT just b/c it is the QB who was holding the ball.

 

[Marc Levin]

wow, thanks guys, I didn't really take a close look at the play, but if it was initially ruled an INT I am sure they will at least take another look at it then. You never know.

Nope - you might as well give up the ghost.The call on the field and officially in the stat sheet was a fumble - and there is NO basis to change it.Like someone else said, only the idiots in the booth thought it was an INT.

 

[Marc Levin]

It was originally ruled an INT,

It was ALWAYS ruled a fumble - the ref on the field threw the bean bag indicating a fumble.

 

[Trey]

It was originally ruled an INT,

It was ALWAYS ruled a fumble - the ref on the field threw the bean bag indicating a fumble.

Only people who called it an INT were ESPN who listed Hasselbeck with 4 INT on the screen immediately after the play. If you saw the play, you can clearly see that the beanbag was thrown.

 

[videoguy505]

It was originally ruled an INT,

It was ALWAYS ruled a fumble - the ref on the field threw the bean bag indicating a fumble.

Only people who called it an INT were ESPN who listed Hasselbeck with 4 INT on the screen immediately after the play. If you saw the play, you can clearly see that the beanbag was thrown.

NFL.com's live game stats also ruled it an INT immediately, then changed it to a fumble within two minutes. I'm not disagreeing it was a fumble, I'm just saying the NFL's stats guy got the call wrong. Read my original post. It's a fumble. That's clear. I saw the play. The confusion the Original Poster is having is probably coming from "live scoring" or something on his website.

 

[Marc Levin]

I'm just saying the NFL's stats guy got the call wrong. Read my original post. It's a fumble. That's clear. I saw the play. The confusion the Original Poster is having is probably coming from "live scoring" or something on his website.

the guy that posts stats on the NFL.com website got it wrong. The NFL's stats trackers had it right immediately.This is a stupid debate, though, since you know they called it a fumble on the field, and it was always OFFICIALLY reported as a fumble.In short, the OP has no chance this side of bizarro world in getting the stat changed from a fumble to an INT.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

I understand the argument that it is a fumble. However, I maintain that it is an INT. If what the WR did (spin the ball down, ruled an illegal forward pass) was a "pass", then what Hasselback did was also a pass.

 

[videoguy505]

 

[Mole]

It was originally ruled an INT,

It was ALWAYS ruled a fumble - the ref on the field threw the bean bag indicating a Change in possession.

Fixed

 

[Marc Levin]

It was originally ruled an INT,

It was ALWAYS ruled a fumble - the ref on the field threw the bean bag indicating a Change in possession.

Fixed

I believe the ref (behind the QB) only throws the bean bag on a fumble near the LOS.The umpires in the backfield use a different bean bag for INTs - if they even use a bean bag rather than their hats. They specifically talked about that in the booth when debating whether it was an INT or Fumble - one of them said the beanbag meant a fumble and not an INT.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

It was originally ruled an INT,

It was ALWAYS ruled a fumble - the ref on the field threw the bean bag indicating a Change in possession.

Fixed

I believe the ref (behind the QB) only throws the bean bag on a fumble near the LOS.The umpires in the backfield use a different bean bag for INTs - if they even use a bean bag rather than their hats. They specifically talked about that in the booth when debating whether it was an INT or Fumble - one of them said the beanbag meant a fumble and not an INT.

Seriously? I've never heard that. So they have two different colored beanbags in their pants?

 

[Marc Levin]

It was originally ruled an INT,

It was ALWAYS ruled a fumble - the ref on the field threw the bean bag indicating a Change in possession.

Fixed

I believe the ref (behind the QB) only throws the bean bag on a fumble near the LOS.The umpires in the backfield use a different bean bag for INTs - if they even use a bean bag rather than their hats. They specifically talked about that in the booth when debating whether it was an INT or Fumble - one of them said the beanbag meant a fumble and not an INT.

Seriously? I've never heard that. So they have two different colored beanbags in their pants?

that's what the guys in the booth said - since the ref threw the beanbag it was a fumble and not an INT.