Did you vote? (1 Viewer)

[RUSF18]

Well?

I voted at 8:00am this morning in my EVil, NYC district. Only a couple of people there... probably the 2nd lowest turnout I've seen.

I'm embarassed to admit I forgot. Are there any major NYC or NYS issues on the ballot this year?

eta: Seems like there's a vote on a $2B bond issuance for technology upgrades in schools. I'll head over at lunch.

Hope you are voting no. There's a bunch of terrible ideas in this bond measure.

Thankfully I did read up on it.

 

[mcintyre1]

voted this morning in my ward here in Chicago.

here's what i don't get: paper ballots. i go in to cast my vote and the ballot people hand me a black ink pen, a couple of long sheets of paper and tell me to have at it.

2014 people.

Given the ####-show that is electronic voting in America (there's pretty much only one company that makes the machines, these days), I'm glad states are switching back to paper voting. I would love to see secure, open source, public online voting in the near future, though. We have the technical ability to do it, but one party has no interest in increasing voting rates so it will never happen.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Voting is how Ebola spreads.

 

[mcintyre1]

If I could vote for any option, it'd be "burn it all down and start from scratch" with a different legislative, executive, and judiciary system that's updated to reflect improvements made in governance over the last 200 years. For now, I'm voting DFL for Senate/House and Grassroots for everything else.

 

[Poke_4_Life]

Forgot to vote last week and I'm travelling this week for work. So 'No'. First time I can remember in my 20 years of being able to vote that I've missed a Nov. election day vote.

 

[whoknew]

voted this morning in my ward here in Chicago.

here's what i don't get: paper ballots. i go in to cast my vote and the ballot people hand me a black ink pen, a couple of long sheets of paper and tell me to have at it.

2014 people.

Given the ####-show that is electronic voting in America (there's pretty much only one company that makes the machines, these days), I'm glad states are switching back to paper voting. I would love to see secure, open source, public online voting in the near future, though. We have the technical ability to do it, but one party has no interest in increasing voting rates so it will never happen.

Is that true? Because this dude disputes that.

Surprisingly, it's practically impossible to make online voting secure. There have been many, many reports over the past decade by top computer scientists explaining the difficulty of trying to do that. If you try to bank online you can, if something goes wrong, get a statement at the end and see if your money went to the wrong place. When you vote there's no way to get a voting statement because we've got a secret ballot. If somebody was able to tell you how you voted so you could check whether it was recorded properly, that would be a big, big problem.

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This is the wrong technology for this particular problem. The thing that's scary about elections is that if votes are changed you can't necessarily tell. If someone rips off your bank account, you at least know that it happened. But with an election you can secretly get the wrong outcome. That undermines the credibility of all election results. And when you think about it, an election you can't believe is virtually useless.

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Q- Will there ever be online voting?

A - It's really hard to say. There need to be some breakthroughs. The state of Internet security now is pretty terrible. Every time you open the paper there's this thing where millions of credit card numbers have been stolen or some horrendous backdoor has been found in software that's been used for many years. I wouldn't rule out Internet voting as something that could eventually be done safely but right now we don’t know how to do it and we need to resist efforts to deploy it prematurely.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I just did. Several precincts in one voting location so hard to tell but the line was out the door.

Feels great.

 

[chauncey]

I voted 9.0, great eyes, DSL, nice rack, a little baby fat on the stomach. We are talking about RNs thread right?

 

[MikeIke]

Liquor store in my neighboorhood has a ballot initiative to allow sales on Sunday, so you better believe I voted.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

I showed up at 7:30 am - polls were supposed to open at 7:00 am. Bunch of election workers standing around outside - polling place was locked. Finally got unlocked at 7:45 am, then they took 30 minutes to set up. Not complaining because I got to vote, but it was sad to see people leaving without voting because the poll was not open on time and people had to get to work.

 

[Gr00vus]

voted this morning in my ward here in Chicago.

here's what i don't get: paper ballots. i go in to cast my vote and the ballot people hand me a black ink pen, a couple of long sheets of paper and tell me to have at it.

2014 people.

I hope they never go to computerized voting in my state - there's no way to make it secure enough.

 

[Gr00vus]

I voted. The only options for all the offices on the ballot were either Democrat or Republican. Zero third party candidates. No es bueno.

I completely skipped over the justice/judge approvals - there were like 20 of them. I have no idea who those people are. I spent maybe 5 minutes looking for info on them online last night and gave up. Does anyone do enough legwork to feel they can make an informed decision on those positions?

 

[McGarnicle]

The country is run by corporations who control much of what politicians do and say, therefore voting is a futile activity designed to make us believe we have any individual power and that there is any significant distinction between the candidates that would have any bearing on our daily lives.

While this is true, the only way to have less power is not to vote at all. You have to use what little control you have.

This sounds great and I know it's a popular sentiment, but I doubt what little control I have matters if I use it or not. And I find it difficult to even care what happens anymore. Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

[avoiding injuries]

40% nationally vote, 70% of FBGs.

 

[joffer]

Voted last Tuesday cause I'm in Vegas

 

[Mister Martie]

I voted. The only options for all the offices on the ballot were either Democrat or Republican. Zero third party candidates. No es bueno.

I completely skipped over the justice/judge approvals - there were like 20 of them. I have no idea who those people are. I spent maybe 5 minutes looking for info on them online last night and gave up. Does anyone do enough legwork to feel they can make an informed decision on those positions?

I just abstain from those. I don't feel qualified to vote either way.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I voted. The only options for all the offices on the ballot were either Democrat or Republican. Zero third party candidates. No es bueno.

I completely skipped over the justice/judge approvals - there were like 20 of them. I have no idea who those people are. I spent maybe 5 minutes looking for info on them online last night and gave up. Does anyone do enough legwork to feel they can make an informed decision on those positions?

I just abstain from those. I don't feel qualified to vote either way.

 

[avoiding injuries]

I voted. The only options for all the offices on the ballot were either Democrat or Republican. Zero third party candidates. No es bueno.

I completely skipped over the justice/judge approvals - there were like 20 of them. I have no idea who those people are. I spent maybe 5 minutes looking for info on them online last night and gave up. Does anyone do enough legwork to feel they can make an informed decision on those positions?

I just abstain from those. I don't feel qualified to vote either way.

Mine were all democrat and were running unopposed. About 12 questions regarding the county borrowing 8-9 digit amounts to pay for projects. It reminded me of the Austin woman who voted "yes" for everything and then had to move because her taxes went up too much.

 

[Mister Martie]

I voted. The only options for all the offices on the ballot were either Democrat or Republican. Zero third party candidates. No es bueno.

I completely skipped over the justice/judge approvals - there were like 20 of them. I have no idea who those people are. I spent maybe 5 minutes looking for info on them online last night and gave up. Does anyone do enough legwork to feel they can make an informed decision on those positions?

I just abstain from those. I don't feel qualified to vote either way.

 

[El Floppo]

Well?

I voted at 8:00am this morning in my EVil, NYC district. Only a couple of people there... probably the 2nd lowest turnout I've seen.

What's an Evil NYC district? Hell's Kitchen?

lol... maybe.

I live in the East Village (EVil).

Not many races of concern here from what I can tell- a handful of incumbents that are lightyears ahead of their challengers. Might explain my perceived lower turnout.

 

[El Floppo]

I voted. The only options for all the offices on the ballot were either Democrat or Republican. Zero third party candidates. No es bueno.

I completely skipped over the justice/judge approvals - there were like 20 of them. I have no idea who those people are. I spent maybe 5 minutes looking for info on them online last night and gave up. Does anyone do enough legwork to feel they can make an informed decision on those positions?

I just abstain from those. I don't feel qualified to vote either way.

He's laughing at you.

 

[mcintyre1]

voted this morning in my ward here in Chicago.

here's what i don't get: paper ballots. i go in to cast my vote and the ballot people hand me a black ink pen, a couple of long sheets of paper and tell me to have at it.

2014 people.

Given the ####-show that is electronic voting in America (there's pretty much only one company that makes the machines, these days), I'm glad states are switching back to paper voting. I would love to see secure, open source, public online voting in the near future, though. We have the technical ability to do it, but one party has no interest in increasing voting rates so it will never happen.

Is that true? Because this dude disputes that.

Surprisingly, it's practically impossible to make online voting secure. There have been many, many reports over the past decade by top computer scientists explaining the difficulty of trying to do that. If you try to bank online you can, if something goes wrong, get a statement at the end and see if your money went to the wrong place. When you vote there's no way to get a voting statement because we've got a secret ballot. If somebody was able to tell you how you voted so you could check whether it was recorded properly, that would be a big, big problem.

----

This is the wrong technology for this particular problem. The thing that's scary about elections is that if votes are changed you can't necessarily tell. If someone rips off your bank account, you at least know that it happened. But with an election you can secretly get the wrong outcome. That undermines the credibility of all election results. And when you think about it, an election you can't believe is virtually useless.

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Q- Will there ever be online voting?

A - It's really hard to say. There need to be some breakthroughs. The state of Internet security now is pretty terrible. Every time you open the paper there's this thing where millions of credit card numbers have been stolen or some horrendous backdoor has been found in software that's been used for many years. I wouldn't rule out Internet voting as something that could eventually be done safely but right now we don’t know how to do it and we need to resist efforts to deploy it prematurely.

All of those statements and criticisms are made from the basis of the voting system being built using off the shelf methods and techniques. We absolutely have the intellectual and technical capacity to build a secure digital voting system if we wanted to, but there has been zero progress towards that goal becaue no one with any power wants it to happen and there's not private incentive to create one.

I particularly laugh at that guy's complaints that with electronic voting you wouldn't have a way to make sure that your vote was counted correctly, that's a pre-existing issue with the current system as well.

 

[Slapdash]

The country is run by corporations who control much of what politicians do and say, therefore voting is a futile activity designed to make us believe we have any individual power and that there is any significant distinction between the candidates that would have any bearing on our daily lives.

While this is true, the only way to have less power is not to vote at all. You have to use what little control you have.

This sounds great and I know it's a popular sentiment, but I doubt what little control I have matters if I use it or not. And I find it difficult to even care what happens anymore. Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

You're not wrong, it becomes a matter of choice. I feel better wielding the little control I have. Donating to organizations like the ALCU, NORML, or EFF is probably much more impactful to my policy goals.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

voted this morning in my ward here in Chicago.

here's what i don't get: paper ballots. i go in to cast my vote and the ballot people hand me a black ink pen, a couple of long sheets of paper and tell me to have at it.

2014 people.

Given the ####-show that is electronic voting in America (there's pretty much only one company that makes the machines, these days), I'm glad states are switching back to paper voting. I would love to see secure, open source, public online voting in the near future, though. We have the technical ability to do it, but one party has no interest in increasing voting rates so it will never happen.

Is that true? Because this dude disputes that.

Surprisingly, it's practically impossible to make online voting secure. There have been many, many reports over the past decade by top computer scientists explaining the difficulty of trying to do that. If you try to bank online you can, if something goes wrong, get a statement at the end and see if your money went to the wrong place. When you vote there's no way to get a voting statement because we've got a secret ballot. If somebody was able to tell you how you voted so you could check whether it was recorded properly, that would be a big, big problem.

----

This is the wrong technology for this particular problem. The thing that's scary about elections is that if votes are changed you can't necessarily tell. If someone rips off your bank account, you at least know that it happened. But with an election you can secretly get the wrong outcome. That undermines the credibility of all election results. And when you think about it, an election you can't believe is virtually useless.

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Q- Will there ever be online voting?

A - It's really hard to say. There need to be some breakthroughs. The state of Internet security now is pretty terrible. Every time you open the paper there's this thing where millions of credit card numbers have been stolen or some horrendous backdoor has been found in software that's been used for many years. I wouldn't rule out Internet voting as something that could eventually be done safely but right now we don’t know how to do it and we need to resist efforts to deploy it prematurely.

All of those statements and criticisms are made from the basis of the voting system being built using off the shelf methods and techniques. We absolutely have the intellectual and technical capacity to build a secure digital voting system if we wanted to, but there has been zero progress towards that goal becaue no one with any power wants it to happen and there's not private incentive to create one.

I particularly laugh at that guy's complaints that with electronic voting you wouldn't have a way to make sure that your vote was counted correctly, that's a pre-existing issue with the current system as well.

Very true, my vote only counts so far as who is counting my vote.

 

[mcintyre1]

voted this morning in my ward here in Chicago.

here's what i don't get: paper ballots. i go in to cast my vote and the ballot people hand me a black ink pen, a couple of long sheets of paper and tell me to have at it.

2014 people.

Given the ####-show that is electronic voting in America (there's pretty much only one company that makes the machines, these days), I'm glad states are switching back to paper voting. I would love to see secure, open source, public online voting in the near future, though. We have the technical ability to do it, but one party has no interest in increasing voting rates so it will never happen.

Is that true? Because this dude disputes that.

Surprisingly, it's practically impossible to make online voting secure. There have been many, many reports over the past decade by top computer scientists explaining the difficulty of trying to do that. If you try to bank online you can, if something goes wrong, get a statement at the end and see if your money went to the wrong place. When you vote there's no way to get a voting statement because we've got a secret ballot. If somebody was able to tell you how you voted so you could check whether it was recorded properly, that would be a big, big problem.

----

This is the wrong technology for this particular problem. The thing that's scary about elections is that if votes are changed you can't necessarily tell. If someone rips off your bank account, you at least know that it happened. But with an election you can secretly get the wrong outcome. That undermines the credibility of all election results. And when you think about it, an election you can't believe is virtually useless.

---

Q- Will there ever be online voting?

A - It's really hard to say. There need to be some breakthroughs. The state of Internet security now is pretty terrible. Every time you open the paper there's this thing where millions of credit card numbers have been stolen or some horrendous backdoor has been found in software that's been used for many years. I wouldn't rule out Internet voting as something that could eventually be done safely but right now we don’t know how to do it and we need to resist efforts to deploy it prematurely.

All of those statements and criticisms are made from the basis of the voting system being built using off the shelf methods and techniques. We absolutely have the intellectual and technical capacity to build a secure digital voting system if we wanted to, but there has been zero progress towards that goal becaue no one with any power wants it to happen and there's not private incentive to create one.

I particularly laugh at that guy's complaints that with electronic voting you wouldn't have a way to make sure that your vote was counted correctly, that's a pre-existing issue with the current system as well.

Very true, my vote only counts so far as who is counting my vote.

Researching more about trials of Internet voting (particularly Norway), his claim isn't even true. Norway's system sent you an SMS with a hashcode representing who your vote was counted for that was unique to your own personal voter card, letting you know who it was counted for without revealing to anyone else who that is without having the matching voter card. The voting was also done over a wide time period (several weeks) and you could vote as many times as you wanted, with only the newest vote being counted. It sounds like they stopped their trial because of fears that the anonymized data could be hacked (valid or not) and the fact that it didn't increase overall turnout.

 

[ChiefD]

I voted. The only options for all the offices on the ballot were either Democrat or Republican. Zero third party candidates. No es bueno.

I completely skipped over the justice/judge approvals - there were like 20 of them. I have no idea who those people are. I spent maybe 5 minutes looking for info on them online last night and gave up. Does anyone do enough legwork to feel they can make an informed decision on those positions?

We had the judges on our ballot as well here in Kansas. I just ran a search on Google for "Judges on Ballot in Kansas", and had a couple of hits. The main one I looked at was the KC Star and their endorsements as a starting point. Found a couple of articles on the makeup of how our judges are appointed. There were a couple I wanted to make sure were retained just based on some of the decisions they had made over the last few years.

In other words, if you search enough, you can usually dig up some info.

 

[Fennis]

I voted last week by mail. IMO mail-in voting has taken all the fun out of voting.

 

[Mr. Ected]

Vote Early, Vote Often TM

 

[Dentist]

Am i supposed to vote for the democrat currently pounding me in the bum, or the republican who will most likely pound me in the bum?

It's hard to decide?

Most of the bills are lame, and IMO the biggest indicator that someone is probably a basspole I don't want representing me in Congress is that they actually want to be elected to Congress.

 

[Fennis]

Am i supposed to vote for the democrat currently pounding me in the bum, or the republican who will most likely pound me in the bum?

It's hard to decide?

Most of the bills are lame, and IMO the biggest indicator that someone is probably a basspole I don't want representing me in Congress is that they actually want to be elected to Congress.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LPdTXRjIKQ

 

[TheIronSheik]

I saw an ad this past week that said something like, "He wants to make abortions for rape victims illegal..." and my first thought was, "This is our most pressing issue? " This literally affects probably 5 people in our state during their term. Everything that is going on and this is what the focus is on?

 

[BassNBrew]

Stopped in to vote around 3 and the wait was at 1.5 hours. I not going to wait 1.5 hours for a free beer, much less vote for a crook.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Did not vote - hope both of my senatorial candidates drown. Would not save either.

 

[RCon]

Would you save their dogs?

 

[Sinn Fein]

Would you save their dogs?

no. But I would save their neighbor's dogs

 

[Annyong]

Can't wait to vote for Pat Quinn!

 

[saintfool]

Can't wait to vote for Pat Quinn!

here's the thing about Quinn

Rauner is somehow worse. i wouldn't trust him as a crossing guard, much less as governor.

 

[McGarnicle]

I saw an ad this past week that said something like, "He wants to make abortions for rape victims illegal..." and my first thought was, "This is our most pressing issue? " This literally affects probably 5 people in our state during their term. Everything that is going on and this is what the focus is on?

Worst one I saw was a typical attack ad linking the dem candidate to Obama, and questioned Obama's handling of "terrorists and Ebola from overseas". I thought to myself, wow, they spend millions to saturate the airwaves with these commercials, so surely they are focus grouping it to death, and they found that to be an effective message. Their widest target is the mouth breathing Fox watcher with the critical thinking of a slug. I find it all really depressing.

 

[Annyong]

Can't wait to vote for Pat Quinn!

here's the thing about Quinn

Rauner is somehow worse. i wouldn't trust him as a crossing guard, much less as governor.

Which one is the giant ##### and which is the turd sandwich? Kind of important.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I saw an ad this past week that said something like, "He wants to make abortions for rape victims illegal..." and my first thought was, "This is our most pressing issue? " This literally affects probably 5 people in our state during their term. Everything that is going on and this is what the focus is on?

Worst one I saw was a typical attack ad linking the dem candidate to Obama, and questioned Obama's handling of "terrorists and Ebola from overseas". I thought to myself, wow, they spend millions to saturate the airwaves with these commercials, so surely they are focus grouping it to death, and they found that to be an effective message. Their widest target is the mouth breathing Fox watcher with the critical thinking of a slug. I find it all really depressing.

The amount of money spend on ads could solve most of this country's problems.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Our Lt Gov who's been in office for 7+ years is running for Gov. I have not seen one ad that talks about what he's running on or what he's done. Just what to be scared about if the other guy gets elected.

Our state is so one sided that he actually skipped the first debate. I think that was a wake up call.

 

[Phil Elliott]

Early voting last week. Was surprised there was a line of about 8 people. Usually during early voting there isn't any one waiting.

 

[El Floppo]

Our Lt Gov who's been in office for 7+ years is running for Gov. I have not seen one ad that talks about what he's running on or what he's done. Just what to be scared about if the other guy gets elected.

Our state is so one sided that he actually skipped the first debate. I think that was a wake up call.

Gov Cuomo could phone it in from W Africa while licking the phone, and still win by double digits.

 

[Fennis]

I saw an ad this past week that said something like, "He wants to make abortions for rape victims illegal..." and my first thought was, "This is our most pressing issue? " This literally affects probably 5 people in our state during their term. Everything that is going on and this is what the focus is on?

Worst one I saw was a typical attack ad linking the dem candidate to Obama, and questioned Obama's handling of "terrorists and Ebola from overseas". I thought to myself, wow, they spend millions to saturate the airwaves with these commercials, so surely they are focus grouping it to death, and they found that to be an effective message. Their widest target is the mouth breathing Fox watcher with the critical thinking of a slug. I find it all really depressing.

The amount of money spend on ads could solve most of this country's problems.

This cancer cure brought to you by our political party would win a lot more votes than normal ads

 

[TheIronSheik]

I saw an ad this past week that said something like, "He wants to make abortions for rape victims illegal..." and my first thought was, "This is our most pressing issue? " This literally affects probably 5 people in our state during their term. Everything that is going on and this is what the focus is on?

Worst one I saw was a typical attack ad linking the dem candidate to Obama, and questioned Obama's handling of "terrorists and Ebola from overseas". I thought to myself, wow, they spend millions to saturate the airwaves with these commercials, so surely they are focus grouping it to death, and they found that to be an effective message. Their widest target is the mouth breathing Fox watcher with the critical thinking of a slug. I find it all really depressing.

The amount of money spend on ads could solve most of this country's problems.

This cancer cure brought to you by our political party would win a lot more votes than normal ads

I'm just saying that the PA governor candidates spent over $50 million talking about how there's not enough money for education.

 

[CBusAlex]

This cancer cure brought to you by our political party would win a lot more votes than normal ads

Sadly, probably not.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I saw an ad this past week that said something like, "He wants to make abortions for rape victims illegal..." and my first thought was, "This is our most pressing issue? " This literally affects probably 5 people in our state during their term. Everything that is going on and this is what the focus is on?

Worst one I saw was a typical attack ad linking the dem candidate to Obama, and questioned Obama's handling of "terrorists and Ebola from overseas". I thought to myself, wow, they spend millions to saturate the airwaves with these commercials, so surely they are focus grouping it to death, and they found that to be an effective message. Their widest target is the mouth breathing Fox watcher with the critical thinking of a slug. I find it all really depressing.

The amount of money spend on ads could solve most of this country's problems.

Yes, but for change like that to occur you'd have to vote for a political party that favors increasing taxes on the wealthy individuals and corporations responsible for the vast majority of spending on political campaigns AND in favor of diverting an increased share of that newly supplemented revenue to education. And where would you possibly find a party like that?

 

[parasaurolophus]

No. Don't like any of the candidates and I don't really care if the state creates a transportation fund that can't be accessed for other things.

 

[spOOfy]

I would have voted today, but I had no idea who was running. They should really devote some money to commercials.

lol. bill clinton called me personally to tell me to vote for tom wolf, imo

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Yup. Had to show my ID too.