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Dion Sims (Dynasty Bench Pick-Up to watch?) Thoughts on him? (1 Viewer)

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Hey guys I just grabbed TE Dion Sims of the WW in my 24 team Dynasty League as he went undrafted in our rookie draft (which is a rookie draft of about 78 to 80 players)

What do you guys think about his upside? I'm curious! Keller is on a 1 yr deal. We know Sims can block well (being on Michigan State and blocking for Leveon Bell). I really like his upside and potential. Check out this article on him! Good stuff for sure. I think he is has high end TE2 upside if the cards fall right.

Sims Just Looks Like A Tight End

Posted Jun 20, 2013

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Alain PoupartAssociate EditorDolphin Digest

After the Dolphins’ first practice of their rookie minicamp, Head Coach Joe Philbin was asked for his first impressions of rookie tight end Dion Sims. His four-sentence answer began with a simple, “I think he looks like a tight end.”

No doubt, the 6-foot-4, 262-pound Sims looks the part. And that didn’t come by accident.

You see, Sims’ biography from Michigan State University listed him at 6-5, 285. Those are pretty good dimensions if you happen to be an offensive tackle. For a tight end hoping to be a factor as a receiver in the NFL, not so much.

“It’s about speed,” Sims said. “Playing tight end, you have to be able to do both, run and block. That’s the main thing I really have to focus on, my all-around game. My main thing is route running and speed and separation.”

Sims’ weight loss was evident at the scouting combine when he ran a respectable 4.75 40-yard dash and no doubt helped his draft stock.

The Dolphins sure noticed the change in Sims.

“He played at probably a little heavier weight in college than what we saw here in the spring and that’s what really intrigued us about him,” General Manager Jeff Ireland said. “He lost some weight, showed us some discipline in that regard and moved around very well in the spring.”

Mind you, Sims moved well enough last fall to catch 36 passes for 475 yards and two touchdowns. His 13.2-yard average, an impressive figure for a tight end, led the team.

Also consider that Sims last season played on an offense that was focused on the running game, to put it mildly. With quarterback Kirk Cousins having been drafted by Washington last spring, MSU made running back Le’Veon Bell the focus of the offense and he ended up averaging 29.4 carries per game.

No wonder the Michigan State coaches didn’t mind Sims having offensive lineman size.

“Most of the time I was between 275 and 280,” Sims said. “That’s pretty much where the coaches wanted me to be, maybe a little bit lighter. But they didn’t see a big issue in it because I was very effective in the run game and I did whatever I could to help the team out.”

Sims entered the draft despite having a year of eligibility left at Michigan State, a decision he described as a tough process.

“The main thing that triggered me for leaving was the birth of my daughter,” Sims said. “She was born in November. It’s important for me to be able to provide for my family and just take my talents to the next level.”

The first order of business once that decision was made was to do something about his weight.

“Listening to a lot of guys that play at the next level and just watching most of the tight end at the next level, none of them are really above 280, or 275,” Sims said. “Most of them are in the 260-250 range. So I just felt it was important for me to get down if I wanted to make an impact at this level.

“I dedicated my time to get ready for the next level pretty much after the offseason and training for the combine. It was just a matter of putting in hard work and just staying dedicated and getting my weight to where it needed to be so I can be active.”

Sims says he’s running “a lot better” than before, but still has work to do to get in “tip-top shape.”

In Sims, the Dolphins got themselves one of the most physical gifted tight ends available in the draft. Back in 2009, Sims was one of only five high school tight ends to get a five-star rating by Rivals.com. He was ranked as the fifth-best tight end recruit, ahead of the first two tight ends taken in this year’s draft — Tyler Eifert (24th) and Zach Ertz (10th).

In addition to being an All-American in football at St. Mary’s Catholic High School in Orchard Lake, Mich., Sims also was an all-state basketball player.

“It was pretty much even,” Sims said. “I excelled at both. Football was more my sport. I had better potential in football. I just felt not everybody can play football, only a select few guys. Just being one of those guys is just a blessing. I’m just fortunate to be in this situation and I’m taking advantage of it.

“I want to be like Antonio Gates and Tony Gonzalez, just a combination of guys who have basketball backgrounds or they’re very athletic. I know Antonio Gates didn’t play a down in college. That just tells you how much potential you can have with that athleticism. I really compare myself kind of to him. I’m just looking forward to walking in his steps and becoming better than he is.”

 
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The part I put in Bold I thought was interesting. Not saying he is better then them. But that the talent and athleticism is right up there with them.

 
I studied him a lot and my initial reaction was pretty high but then it wore off rather quickly.

In a nutshell, he is absolutely intriguing and commands to be looked over but at the end of the day I just don't think he has the "twitch" and real-life explosiveness to fit into the type of dynamic role I think we all try to envision for him that the NFL is gravitating towards.

For lack of sophiticated wording, I describe him as a "slow roller" as he gathers up steam that can do alot of things well in blocking and running and even catching, but he is the kind of guy that you throw "to" instead of throw "open". I wouldn't argue one bit if you say he will get "x" stats based on volume and opportunity, etc but I don't think he's that type of guy that will ever be "Wow! We have to adjust our game plan to defend this guy's dyamic ability".

I think of him as Alge Crumpler in terms of "He can be top ten in the right situaiton and he can be just another guy in a slightly different situaiton"

 
I've picked up tons of these rookie TE's as stashes, but not Sims. Don't like him that much. Other guys I've got rostered somewhere: Kelce, McDonald, Reed, Mychal Rivera. Other young guys I'd rather roster over Sims: Stocker, Virgil and Ladarius Green, Clay, Kendricks, Hanna, Adrien Robinson. These are just TE stashes that are on my rosters now, there are others that I don't own.

 
He's little intriguing to me but I'll admit some of that is based on what I've not seen. Unless you've been present or watched video of Dolphins OTA's none of us know how he looks with the weight loss and I've heard some reports suggest he was pushing 300 last year and not 285 so it could be a major difference.

One thing I noticed was how similar is he is to Travis Kelce in almost every category and considering Kelce is usually the #2 or #3 rookie TE to get drafted I tought it bore mentioning. They are almost dead even in height, weight, 40 and 10 yard time and vertical. Kelce beat him by a clear foot in the broad jumb and crushed him in the bench press whereas Sims one major positive trait over Kelce is his hands measure almost a foot more. Also similar to Kelce he's had some off the field issues which hurt his stock a little.

I've rostered him in a few places at least until I can see what kind of player he looks with the weight loss and I'll reasses afterwards.

 
He's in an offense that wants to utilize the TE more and the competition he has to beat out is not intimidating, but he didn't dominate the field in college like a guy that could translate to NFL stardom. He has all the making's of a functional TE, but an explosive one? Nah. Unless he turns into an 80 rec or big red zone threat type at best he's among the muck of weak TE1's/adequate TE2's. I'm not optimistic about either of those happening.

 
I've seen Sims get mentioned a few times recently with Clay being out. Anyone relying on him tonight?

Seems to me, if you're a Julius owner you had 3 possibilities as backup plans if you waited for Sunday night: Tamme, Fasano and Sims.

 
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Rolling with Sims too as Julius replacement. So far pleased I chose him instead of Gresham, Fasano and Rivera...here's hoping for even a decent showing tonight. My Sims against his Miami Special Teams and Reshad Jones (Miami safety).

 
Can't complain! That middle class Dwayne Allen just won me my division and a bye instead of a tough first round playoff matchup! Followed your ranking this week Bloom - thanks and good call!

 
Loved him at MSU... underwhelming in the NFL. He is a big body with good hands though.
he's only in his second year, 23 years old, and TEs usually have among the longest ramp up time of any position. they had him playing at like 280 at MSU. he's down to 260-265 and looking better getting downfield into routes. He's not going to be a fantasy stud, but he can be fantasy relevant and a long term starter in the NFL.

 
Rolling with Sims. Have Julius. Up 6. My Sims vs his Landry.
Won by less than a point on his last catch. Originally had Tamme in and dropped him right before the start of the Sunday game to pick up Sims. When does that ever work?

That decision got me in the playoffs.

As for Sims as a player, I didn't watch the whole game, but it didn't seem like he ran that many routes. He was asked to stay in and block quite a bit from what I saw.

 
Loved him at MSU... underwhelming in the NFL. He is a big body with good hands though.
he's only in his second year, 23 years old, and TEs usually have among the longest ramp up time of any position. they had him playing at like 280 at MSU. he's down to 260-265 and looking better getting downfield into routes. He's not going to be a fantasy stud, but he can be fantasy relevant and a long term starter in the NFL.
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Rolling with Sims. Have Julius. Up 6. My Sims vs his Landry.
Won by less than a point on his last catch. Originally had Tamme in and dropped him right before the start of the Sunday game to pick up Sims. When does that ever work?

That decision got me in the playoffs.

As for Sims as a player, I didn't watch the whole game, but it didn't seem like he ran that many routes. He was asked to stay in and block quite a bit from what I saw.
He was not the best blocker as a Spartan... but I suppose as big as he is, it can be taught.

 
Roto says he's "just" a blocker and can't be trusted. Which translates into him being a solid pick up. Those clowns at Roto reverse their info constantly...it's comical.

FWIW...I picked him up. Could be a decent dynasty stash at the end of your bench if you can afford the spot. If not, you didn't give up much, if anything, to get him. Tannehill has proven he can't throw the deep ball.

 
68% catch rate and 12.7 ypc. Not bad. Could be the starter next season.

They already have $141 million on their 2015 cap, so Clay may not be back. No idea what kind of offers he will get from other teams or what NFL GM's think of him (Clay).

 
I think Clay could be used better on just about any other team (other than KC and ARI) so it will be interesting to watch this play out. It was like MIA totally ignored what Clay did last year going into this year and only went back to him when they kind of had to during certain games this year.

 
I think Clay could be used better on just about any other team (other than KC and ARI) so it will be interesting to watch this play out. It was like MIA totally ignored what Clay did last year going into this year and only went back to him when they kind of had to during certain games this year.
Thats not what happened at all. Clay has been hurt all year. Been on the injury report every single week. I am sure they would love to have him back at full strength. He is a perfect weapon for Tannehill, who cant complete passes longer than 20 yards. He has RAC ability, and can get open in short/intermediate routes when healthy, which is perfect for Miami's offense.

As far as Sims, I dont think he has the upside that Clay offers because he is not nearly as dynamic as a receiver. Probably a better blocker, but that wont help you win a title. As a starter, he may be a serviceable TE2, or a low end 1 in PPR because of the style of offense Miami runs (5 yard passes), but I dont think he is a "rush to the waiver wires and blow your budget" type player by any stretch. Add a TD to what we saw Monday, and that probably is his upside on any given week.

Of course, he is very young and we havent see a large enough body of work to jump to any of these conclusions - but as a Fins fan who watches every game and follows them closely, that is my opinion based on what we have seen so far.

 
Hmm. After they sign Suh they won't have the $$$ available to match the creative offer(s) Clay receives :D :shrug:

Been very very very busy lately, out of the loop and didn't hear about the tag

 
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