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DIY Deck Builders (1 Viewer)
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The Commish
Footballguy
What materials do you want to use? In framing it's probably $1500ish for the PT lumber...the rest depends on what you top it with.
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
I think you need to draw plans and blueprints for a living. You definitely missed your calling.
For the deck will you put anything underneath on the ground level?
psychobillies
Footballguy
$1500 seems low. What's the square footage?
belljr
Footballguy
VA703
Footballguy
honestly don't know what to do with that space. feel like itll turn into wasted space and the grass will all wilt away
VA703
Footballguy
honestly im not sure, gonna go with 1500 sq ft for the upper level rough guesstimate
The Commish
Footballguy
Well, in my defense, I was going by the drawing and assuming 10 feet off the house...figured 10 x 12 deck with steps
....and that was just lumber, not hanging brackets, screws, lag bolts, concrete etc.
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belljr
Footballguy
I'd recommend just putting stone under neath. You can then use it to store you stuff during the winter. Maybe get a couple of these if you need them.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Suncast-195-Gal-Backyard-Oasis-Vertical-Deck-Box-VDB19500J/203701991
psychobillies
Footballguy
Right. Not a lot of information available there. Sweet drawing though.Well, in my defense, I was going by the drawing and assuming 10 feet off the house...figured 10 x 12 deck with steps
The Commish
Footballguy
you mean 150? If 1500 for real, then I was way off on the scope of this project....you'll have $1500 in concrete and pilings to support that thing going all the way out into your yard.
VA703
Footballguy
did a google 1500 is the size of an apartment. im thinking more like 3-500 ft now
12x20
psychobillies
Footballguy
That's what I was thinking. Materials only, maybe more if he goes with premium boards and depending on roofing material.
The Commish
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
Take this as a "just messin' with ya" sort of post, but are you sure you want to go the DIY route here VA703? It's not beginning very smoothly 
The Commish
Footballguy
How high up is the deck from the ground?
VA703
Footballguy
Johnny Bing
Footballguy
Menards deck builder
Draw out what you want and it will give you the cost. Menards isn't the best for lumber IMO. It usually picked over, but the calculator will give you the materials list and you can take it somewhere else. Or at least it gives you the estimated price for your current stage.
Draw out what you want and it will give you the cost. Menards isn't the best for lumber IMO. It usually picked over, but the calculator will give you the materials list and you can take it somewhere else. Or at least it gives you the estimated price for your current stage.
The Commish
Footballguy
belljr
Footballguy
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Insoxicated
Helped put a 1500sqft ground level deck off the back of a buddy's house... well, they had the deck put in and I helped put screws in to secure it better (nails suck). Holy #### that was a long day. Two folks drilling pilot holes and two folks putting screws in. Took all day and we all felt like we had been hit by a bus the next day or two.
1500sq ft is a MASSIVE deck for most houses.... ESPECIALLY if you're building 12ft up. Smart move going smaller.
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gianmarco
Footballguy
Based on that picture, I'm guessing that's about 25 feet wide and you'll probably want to bring that out at least 15 feet, maybe even 20. I would figure about 500 sq ft. That said, while I'm sure you're fine, make sure you don't have any setback restrictions. Beyond that, it's going to depend on what materials you use as others pointed out. You may say treated wood now, but when you're having to stain that puppy on a regular basis and then have to start replacing boards, you're gonna wish you spent more $ upfront and saved you the money and time and effort down the road.
I would say $15-20k pretty easily based on that size and if you want to do it right.
I would say $15-20k pretty easily based on that size and if you want to do it right.
Spike
Footballguy
matttyl
Footballguy
Redoing my deck right now - 16' deep by 32' wide - with 8 steps, a 6'x6' landing, and 8 steps down to the lower area (similar to what you have below there).
I'm going composite (Trex transcend) and cost was right at $4,100 (under $8 per square foot). The framing is already there and still in very good shape - but I'd estimate it around $2k for materials needed for that.
Given that you are building this, and have all that room under it, you might want to look into a product called "trex rain escape". I'm doing it for my project now. It's a waterproof membrane you put over the framing, but under the decking - and drains all rainwater that falls on your deck. With it, you can have that space underneath always dry - and you can put in a ceiling with lights, fans, speakers, whatever you want. It would really make sense for you if you had a walk out basement on that side of the house, though. If you have kids, would make a perfect outdoor playroom for them.
The screened in section (with roof and such) may add another $5k to your project.
I'm going composite (Trex transcend) and cost was right at $4,100 (under $8 per square foot). The framing is already there and still in very good shape - but I'd estimate it around $2k for materials needed for that.
Given that you are building this, and have all that room under it, you might want to look into a product called "trex rain escape". I'm doing it for my project now. It's a waterproof membrane you put over the framing, but under the decking - and drains all rainwater that falls on your deck. With it, you can have that space underneath always dry - and you can put in a ceiling with lights, fans, speakers, whatever you want. It would really make sense for you if you had a walk out basement on that side of the house, though. If you have kids, would make a perfect outdoor playroom for them.
The screened in section (with roof and such) may add another $5k to your project.
VA703
Footballguy
that sounds pretty awesome. didn't even think about using the space like that. the biggest part that's holding me back is losing that underneath area but I guess that just means less grass to cut
Thanks all for the info. will take measurements this weekend
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
If that 'screen' is a screened in area with a roof, I recently had someone out to give me an estimate on extending an existing deck and adding a roof with screen. They were going to reuse the existing supports and replace all of the decking. It was going to be ~$15k. Let me know if you need the name of the guy from our area.
As far as the area underneath, if you could do something with walls and use it as a storage area for stuff like a lawnmower and other stuff you don't need in the garage and/or non-seasonal usage storing. I agree with the idea of the stones, I am going to be doing something similar later this summer.
matttyl
Footballguy
You're not at all losing the space underneath of it - in fact you may be gaining some "livable space". If nothing else you can use it like a shed and keep lawn equipment, bikes and such under there, but keep them from getting rained on.
Like I said, I'm doing that right now and "waterproofing" the ~500 sq. ft. of space I have under my top deck (which has access to the basement walk out). Going to go full out with lights, a pair of fans - in ceiling outdoor speakers - and either a TV or a projector. It will be an outdoor living room / play room for my kid / place where I can work on my bikes and if I get grease or dirt or whatever on that floor, I can just hose it off.
Like I said, I'm doing that right now and "waterproofing" the ~500 sq. ft. of space I have under my top deck (which has access to the basement walk out). Going to go full out with lights, a pair of fans - in ceiling outdoor speakers - and either a TV or a projector. It will be an outdoor living room / play room for my kid / place where I can work on my bikes and if I get grease or dirt or whatever on that floor, I can just hose it off.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Reading this thread... I am not sure you are up to a DIY deck along these lines.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Yeah, the way this lays out, I would strongly consider finishing the area below it with either concrete or pavers and gain the patio space underneath. And as pointed out above, based on the questions here, this doesn't seem like a DIY project for you.
matttyl
Footballguy
Would agree. Laying the decking itself is one thing - the framing and the stairs are something completely different. If one thing doesn't meet code, you're potentially screwed.
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