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DNC Leaks...official thread (2 Viewers)

David Dodds said:
HRC has told us that 17 different security agencies have all said these are from Russia.  We know that not to be the case at a minimum.  I have yet to see the FBI or the NSA with a definitive piece on the Podesta files.  Crowdstrike, commented on the DNC leaks and Guccifer 2.0 hacks, but no one from NSA, FBI or Homeland Security confirmed their findings.

It's possible that Russia is responsible, but it's also quite possible that a disgruntled NSA person, a former DNC employee, or someone else in the "inner circle of corruption" leaked all of this.  I think it's irresponsible though to have HRC ratchet up the Russia is Guilty talk without this being the official position from our NSA, FBI or Homeland Security.  The former NSA director has went on record saying he doubts this is coming from Russia.

Adding to all of this, Podesta lost his phone.  His password sounds like a codebreaker's nightmare too.  It was p###w0rd.  LOL     
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It seems Homeland Security did comment on it, as well as the Director of National Intelligence. They issued a joint report on behalf of the US Intelligence Community. If they are correct, why jump feet first into a pile of Russian gathered intel and take it as gospel? Do you really feel comfortable running with this before it is cleared of being Russian propoganda meant to sway our election? I wouldn't care if it was attacking the RNC or the DNC, I'd be wary of cherry-picked intel, key contextual omissions and straight-up manipulations. Personally, I want it vetted before I lend it that much weight.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-hackers-breached-dnc-possibly-121024235.html

 
The Football Freak said:
It seems Homeland Security did comment on it, as well as the Director of National Intelligence. They issued a joint report on behalf of the US Intelligence Community. If they are correct, why jump feet first into a pile of Russian gathered intel and take it as gospel? Do you really feel comfortable running with this before it is cleared of being Russian propoganda meant to sway our election? I wouldn't care if it was attacking the RNC or the DNC, I'd be wary of cherry-picked intel, key contextual omissions and straight-up manipulations. Personally, I want it vetted before I lend it that much weight.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-hackers-breached-dnc-possibly-121024235.html




 
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That's the DNC.  I don't believe these agencies talked about the Podesta files. WikiLeaks themselves heavily hinted that the leak came from murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich.

 
The Football Freak said:
It seems Homeland Security did comment on it, as well as the Director of National Intelligence. They issued a joint report on behalf of the US Intelligence Community. If they are correct, why jump feet first into a pile of Russian gathered intel and take it as gospel? Do you really feel comfortable running with this before it is cleared of being Russian propoganda meant to sway our election? I wouldn't care if it was attacking the RNC or the DNC, I'd be wary of cherry-picked intel, key contextual omissions and straight-up manipulations. Personally, I want it vetted before I lend it that much weight.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-hackers-breached-dnc-possibly-121024235.html
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Vetted by who?  The people in power who want to remain in power?  It's like letting the drug and insurance companies write the ACA bill or defense contractors help setting the defense budget.

 
jerry jones said:
Disrupt the election, don't see how this is positive....it's not positive, it's exposing sleazy unethical behavior, we have every right to know what's been going on behind the curtain. 

Notice I didn't say illegal, not sure that's been proven yet.
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Please PM your email login and password to me, I have some concerns about your behavior. TIA.

 
jonessed said:
You might be right.  I think they got Podesta's email seperately.
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Haven't followed all that close, but it's my understanding that "Russia" hacked the DNC servers and Podesta was phished.  If it was the same people, I have no idea...it doesn't seem to matter at this point.

 
The General said:
Path of least resistance to what? Seeing us be a joke right? This is my point that Hannity types are popping boners that these wikileak hacker dorks seem to favor one side in the hacking department without acknowledging what the motivation is.

Everyone knows it's because they don't really care, just makes Hillary look bad.
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It's because they view globalism and war with Russia as a bigger threat to world peace than Trump.  I do too. :shrug:

 
The Commish said:
Haven't followed all that close, but it's my understanding that "Russia" hacked the DNC servers and Podesta was phished.  If it was the same people, I have no idea...it doesn't seem to matter at this point.
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This is right up there with "Trump never pays taxes!" God forbid the American public gets educated on how 2/20 net operating loss carry forwards work for business losses incurred (and are a part of the IRS code). "Russia hacked the DNC!" is really Podesta got phished...but American voters are dumb, so run with the Russia hacked DNC angle, (insert name of media outlet).

I just hope to read in Podesta's autobiography at some point in the future that the free mystery shopping experience that he received via email from the National Sweepstakes Bureau was magical.

 
mquinnjr said:
The Commish said:
Haven't followed all that close, but it's my understanding that "Russia" hacked the DNC servers and Podesta was phished.  If it was the same people, I have no idea...it doesn't seem to matter at this point.
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This is right up there with "Trump never pays taxes!" God forbid the American public gets educated on how 2/20 net operating loss carry forwards work for business losses incurred (and are a part of the IRS code). "Russia hacked the DNC!" is really Podesta got phished...but American voters are dumb, so run with the Russia hacked DNC angle, (insert name of media outlet).

I just hope to read in Podesta's autobiography at some point in the future that the free mystery shopping experience that he received via email from the National Sweepstakes Bureau was magical.
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:confused:   So the DNC wasn't hacked?  It was just Podesta?  I thought both happened :oldunsure:   The former happening several months ago during the primaries and the latter happening in the last few weeks.

 
The Commish said:
:confused:   So the DNC wasn't hacked?  It was just Podesta?  I thought both happened :oldunsure:   The former happening several months ago during the primaries and the latter happening in the last few weeks.
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You could be totally right, I don't know what to believe at this point. Either could be true until the FBI releases completed investigation results to the public into what Russia has hacked/compromised and the depths of it, which would likely take until well after the election is over. I'm just speculating at this point myself.

 
TobiasFunke said:
That's not true for a number of reasons.  First, there is much stronger evidence that Russia is responsible for the hacks than there is of Clinton's "corruption" IMO. Second, as indicated by that first sentence, being guilty of "corruption" is a subjective thing, whereas being guilty of hacking and rape aren't so much.

That said, if you know of a specific criminal act you think Clinton is guilty of and you have evidence you consider equal to the evidence against Russia or Assange, I'm happy to hear it.  Just don't throw that 18 USC 793 crap at me again.  I wasted too much of my life debunking that around here, and everyone ignored me, and then a Bush-appointed FBI director sided with me, as did most other experts, and people ignored them too, so I'm not wasting my time with that again.
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Again, what is this evidence? Links? All I'm asking for is something to read.

 
Courtjester said:
Here I will save you time. The crux of the article is no one knows who did it. The U.S. Government thinks it might or could be the Russians, but they don't know for certain. 
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Nobody knows for certain if OJ Simpson is a murderer either, but I don't run around saying there's no evidence of it.

 
The emails have to be out there.  This site list many possible places backups could exist.  The server host, the host had a backup, someone transfered it all to Gmail, so Google could have them, and finally the NSA.  The bottom of the article mentions Kim Dotcom, and said he knows where they have been collecting every email for years, because they used it in the case vs him. . And have the capacity to keep every daily email for 50years.  Wow!  That should be bigger need than someone destroying the trump star on the walk of fame.

https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-nsa-warehouse-exposed-all-of-hillary-clintons-emails-released/

 
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I'm sure this has been covered in the 40 pages so far, but is it odd that none of the emails are directly to or from HC?  They are all her aides, but I'd have to imagine they would communicate to her at some point directly or she did to them.  Is WikiLeaks saving the best for last...

 
RBM said:
This should be pinned

http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/
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#24 on that list corroborates the frustration that Erica Garner (Eric Garner's daughter) has expressed about Hillary and her camp over the past couple of days.

For those who are unfamiliar:  

Eric Garner's daughter blasts Clinton campaign after WikiLeaks emails (CNN, Friday, October 28, 2016)

Washington (CNN) - The daughter of a New York City man who died after he was put in a police chokehold blasted Hillary Clinton's campaign Thursday when WikiLeaks revealed email conversations about using her father's death to protest gun violence.

"I'm troubled by the revelation that you and this campaign actually discussed 'using' Eric Garner ... Why would you want to 'use' my dad," tweeted Erica Garner.

#24 from the Wikileaks list:

24. Hillary’s camp excited about a black teen’s murder (to help her agenda)

https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/25750

“This is great.”

“Davis was killed by a white man.”

 
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Gary Coal Man said:
Saints, would you please edit your post.  It's messing up the page on both my mobile and monitor view.  Thanks in advance for your anticipated cooperation.   :thumbup:
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Fixed.

Really sorry about that, that happens with McClatchy and I did not notice it.

You might want to delete your own as the quoting seems to have carried over the problem.

Thanks - SID

 
Ren Ho3k said:
The absolute mad man!!!  https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/791364506425315328
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Is it just me or is this not a huge 'disappointment.

I think I might have first posted about DotCom's claims February of 2015 or so. He has been crowing about this for over a year. And this is it? He thinks the NSA has the Hillary emails and he's just telling them to release them?

Hillary had an open web server with no encryption with portal ID and configuration information on the open web and none of these big time hackers got to her cache?

I'm not discounting that different parties (pick your flavor) have them, but for what they do they have to do better than this.

 
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Johnny Bing said:
I'm sure this has been covered in the 40 pages so far, but is it odd that none of the emails are directly to or from HC?  They are all her aides, but I'd have to imagine they would communicate to her at some point directly or she did to them.  Is WikiLeaks saving the best for last...
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Emails to and from Hillary have been posted, but they are not from her server, they are from Podesta's gmail and a few others's email services/servers, except for the Foia stuff that WL already recycled a few months back.

 
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Gary Coal Man said:
#24 on that list corroborates the frustration that Erica Garner (Eric Garner's daughter) has expressed about Hillary and her camp over the past couple of days.

For those who are unfamiliar:  

Eric Garner's daughter blasts Clinton campaign after WikiLeaks emails (CNN, Friday, October 28, 2016)

Washington (CNN) - The daughter of a New York City man who died after he was put in a police chokehold blasted Hillary Clinton's campaign Thursday when WikiLeaks revealed email conversations about using her father's death to protest gun violence.

"I'm troubled by the revelation that you and this campaign actually discussed 'using' Eric Garner ... Why would you want to 'use' my dad," tweeted Erica Garner.

#24 from the Wikileaks list:

24. Hillary’s camp excited about a black teen’s murder (to help her agenda)

https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/25750

“This is great.”

“Davis was killed by a white man.”
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"This is great" refers to the paper, not what happened:

>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Lauren Peterson < >>>>>> lpeterson@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey all -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marie Claire has partnered with Harvard on a study that looks at >>>>>>> women and guns -- their attitudes, their experiences, etc. They're >>>>>>> publishing their findings soon, and they've asked Hillary to contribute an >>>>>>> essay on the subject. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Attached is a draft from me + Megan. This is all coming together >>>>>>> pretty quickly, so if everyone could send edits by 4pm, that would be >>>>>>> great.
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On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:00 PM, De'Ara Balenger < dbalenger@hillaryclinton.com> wrote: > I'm telling y'all - when I white man kills a young black boy - it is FIRST > racial.

It is a good thing De'Ara did not send this to Chet first...

 
Any chance that the Kimdotcom email recovery instructions were legit and that's the reason why the FBI investigation got reopened? 

 
David Dodds said:
Here was the phishing attack that got Podesta.  

http://jamiedupree.blog.ajc.com/2016/10/28/wikileaks-reveals-email-used-to-hack-podesta/

John actually was concerned, but HRCs tech team said the google email was legit. LOL
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:lmao:

Change your password at this bit.ly link - immediately! Signed, googlemail dot com. 

Response from Charles:

You had better do this immediately at that link, and enable 2-factor authentication. You need email access!

:lmao: Cannot make this stuff up. 

 
Some good stuff from the weekend,

Podesta: "I'm definitely for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real basis for it." https://t.co/MZ2a9gk5t3 https://t.co/qQ9tO2aimY

WIKILEAKS: Tax form Indicates John Podesta Put Russia-Tainted Shares In Daughter’s Company https://t.co/cRTxgSHLLn #WikiLeaks #PodestaEmails https://t.co/N2fl6I2Ozd

Fmr DC DA: FBI Director Comey's hand forced by @FBI agents 'Seething' anger at botched #Hillary email investigation https://t.co/giOgZYsDTY

COMMENCE PHASE 3!!!!!!

 
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