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DNC Operatives Accused Of Paying Mentally Ill To Attack Republicans At 2016 Trump Rallies ( EDIT: 2/10 21:34 PST) (1 Viewer)

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** Original Thread "DNC Coordinated To Incite Violence At 2016 Trump Events ( 1/7 13:26 PST)" updated to add in/expand new video, paraphrased transcript, topic narrative, open discussion questions, analysis, formatting and reference articles. Also the current impeachment hearing where Donald Trump is charged with inciting the Capitol Riots on 1/6/21 creates a new discussion point for this material, i.e. hypocrisy in terms of using violence/advocating violence as a means towards political goals/ends and if there is proof of widespread voter/election fraud as former POTUS Trump has claimed. **

TOPIC NARRATIVE:

DNC funded operatives, Scott Foval and ( convicted felon/husband of a Democratic Congresswoman) Bob Creamer are caught on video discussing paying the mentally ill and homeless to incite violence at 2016 Trump campaign rallies to create an Anti-Trump narrative in the left leaning MSM and how they have, for decades, committed voter/election fraud.

Also discussed are busing in illegal voters, setting up and coordinating voter/election fraud using false work permits, shutting down Trump rallies by faking an attack on a 69 year old woman who was revealed as a Foval trained plant, widespread coordination of "consultants" like Foval across multiple major cities and states, how to scale up election/voter fraud/negative media optics in Republican dominated voting areas, illegal coordination with Democratic campaigns/DNC/Super PACs, and which cities/states are the most vulnerable to have their elections manipulated with the least amount of legal/scandal/investigative risk.

Activist and failed political candidate in Ryan Clayton and a high ranking business associate of Creamer in Lauren Windsor later find the undercover investigative journalist, Allison Maass, who uncovered the Creamer/Foval scandal and proceeded to imply violence and rape, up to and including chasing her down the street, entering the taxi where she had fled for safety and following her to a random hotel where she stayed in the lobby to call for help.

Given the current impeachment hearings for Donald Trump currently, the narrative becomes a disturbing but essential question - Who is really inciting violence in America regarding our votes and elections?

QUESTIONS TO RAISE OPEN DISCUSSION:

As fellow long time FBGs, where many threads have been dedicated to those with mental illness they are battling themselves, or have these issues with their spouses, siblings, parents, children and loved ones, how do you feel knowing the DNC funded operatives to pay and train the mentally ill ( those who may not have full agency) and take advantage of them and incite them to commit violence against those who are exercising their legal right to their own political voice, no matter which side of the aisle?

Do you believe this type of scandal/tactics used by Creamer/Foval stopped in 2016? Do you believe this type of nefarious strategy was used in the 2020 general election?

Do you believe this overall issue links with the recent Time article, regarding a secret cabal that should determine, as stated, the "proper outcome" of any election in this country?

https://forums.footballguys.com/topic/792804-time-magazine-shadow-campaign-influenced-2020-election-against-trump-29-154-pst/

Do you believe there is hypocrisy regarding this overall issue and using violence as a means to political ends by the DNC and it's operatives and the accusations against Trump inciting rioters in the current impeachment hearing?

What is your view of revealed undercover investigative reporter, Allison Maass, who sourced the video for this scandal, being chased down and given implied threats of violence and rape, by established Democratic operatives linked to Bob Creamer?

******MAIN VIDEO******: Rigging the Election - Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies •Oct 17, 2016

... a Democratic dirty tricks operative unwittingly provides a dark money trail to the DNC and Clinton campaign. The video documents violence at Trump rallies that is traced to the Clinton campaign and the DNC through a process called birddogging. A shady coordinated communications chain between the DNC, Clinton Campaign, Hillary Clinton’s Super PAC (Priorities) and other organizations are revealed. A key Clinton operative is on camera saying, “It doesn’t matter what the f******** legal and ethics people say, we need to win this m****therf****ker."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY

******MAIN VIDEO******: Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Fraud •Oct 18, 2016

... Democratic party operatives tell us how to successfully commit voter fraud on a massive scale. Scott Foval, who has since been fired, admits that the Democrats have been rigging elections for fifty years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs

******(UPDATED) MAIN VIDEO******:  Dem Operative in Lawsuit Deposition Answer for "Gotcha B*tch" Attack & Their Selective Editing •Apr 15, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmLMswsSw08

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/democratic-operatives-in-lawsuit-deposition-for-gotcha-b-tch-attack-their/

PARAPHRASED CONTENT FROM ALL ARTICLES/VIDEOS TO REMAIN IN COMPLIANCE WITH SINGLE USER FBG FORUM POSTING GUIDELINES:

( As Per 1/4/21 12:33 PST,  https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/790107-healing-and-moving-forward-thoughts/page/28/?tab=comments#comment-23172408 )

"......(Scott Foval, National Field Director for Americans United For Change, a consulting group funded by the DNC )....'we call this "conflict engagement" at Trump rallies (via a preprogrammed script that Foval has been using for the last 20 years)..... (I'm) starting anarchy here (i.e. the 2016 POTUS election).... we have mentally ill people (as well as homeless) we pay (to start confrontations and commit violence)...... we are contracted by the DNC (and the Clinton 2016 campaign both)...we have to be (very very very) careful...we don't need (this story/scandal) on CNN....that the DNC paid for this ( Foval and Creamer coordinating the attack on Republicans)'....."

"...(Foval on Republicans, who show indicators of being good targets, at Trump rallies in 2016).... 'you will be attacked ... that's what we want (to develop our Anti-Trump media narrative)....the point is to get (Trump supporters).... to lose their sh******t'...."

"....(Foval on formally training agitators on how attack Republicans) ...'we have a built in group ( of trainers/coordinators) who (teach people how to attack Trump rallies) in New York...(also) in D.C., Vegas, Colorado and Minneapolis'..."

“....(Bob Creamer, Founder & Partner of Democracy Partners, a consulting group funded by the DNC, as well as the husband of Democratic Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, as well as a convicted felon for bank fraud - on whether the Hillary Clinton campaign was aware of his actions/behavior/tactics).....'The campaign (Hillary Clinton 2016)...is fully into it...Hillary knows ( through the chain of command)....what we are doing (and what is going on here)'......"

" ....(Foval).... the (2016 Hillary Clinton) campaign and DNC....cannot (by law) coordinate with the Super PACs... but we (Foval and Creamer) are the hub where the Super PACs talk ( and coordinate these attacks on Republicans)....and we ( are the double blind) where the DNC and campaign can plausibly deny ( the attacks on Republicans)' ....."

"....(Foval)....'I am contracted ( to Bob Creamer) who is (clearly) diabolical and I love that (about him)....but I (ultimately) answer to the heads of the DNC Special Events (and) Campaign Special Events And Political (for Hillary Clinton 2016)...the (Clinton via Priorities Super PAC) campaign pays the DNC, who pays Democracy Partners, who pays the Foval Group...and (I) execute this sh****t (on the ground as the tip of the spear)' ..."

"......(Foval, on issues/future criticism of whether his actions are legal or ethical)...... 'It doesn't matter (what people say or do to us) .... we need to win this m***ther f***cker ( the 2016 election against Trump, at all costs)...I once got a priest to cry ( on camera).. it's not hard (to incite Republicans with paid mentally ill attackers)...you draw them out (with a Planned Parenthood and/or Trump Is A Nazi T Shirt based on Foval's agitator training)...we (DNC/Clinton campaign/Super PACs/Creamer & Foval) update Trump/Pence events every morning ( to target)'........”

"....(Foval, on 69 year old Shirley Teter, an elderly woman who needs an oxygen tank for COPD, who was claimed in the press/MSM as being attacked by Trump supporters).... 'She (Teeter was one of our (paid) activists..... who had been trained to "Bird Dog"....(Teeter was paid) to get at the Trump rally early, to get in the front near the cameras (to be visible when the false attack happened)...other people ( like me) can make (these)  things happen, things you ( the general public) don't need to know about'....."

“.....(Aaron Minter, Deputy Rapid Response Director for the DNC, using the fake name "Aaron Black" to conceal his real identity).....'No one is supposed to (openly) know (that I even exist). .....we started a Chicago protest (that shut down a Trump rally).....we don't want it coming back to the (Democratic) Party ( in public for accountability/scandal)'.......”

"....(Foval, on the risk of getting caught by the press or state investigators).....if you get caught ( for voter/election fraud), does it matter?..... in this state, they don't have the power ( to stop me and/or the DNC) ....(the plan) is to implement ( this fraud strategy) on a much larger scale.... you (do it) with state legislatures and Congress...(and then) you use this strategy in every Republican dominated state....the best places to start would be Michigan and Indiana (via weak campaign finance laws and investigative reputation)....if you had enough money (in these states)...you could f*****k your mother in front of the (state) governor and not be sent to prison'....."

"....( Foval, on busing in voters out of district and committing voter and election fraud)....'we've been doing this ( fraud) for fifty years.. and we ( the DNC, Democratic Super PACs, the Clinton campaign, Creamer & Foval) are not going to stop now....(and if we are eventually caught)... then we'll just find a different (method) way to do it (i.e. get the same fraudulent result)....we manipulated votes (and voters) with money and (our direct) actions ( and not via actual law).... if there's enough money you can get it done ( i.e. have people use their own vehicles and rented cars and purchased cars via Used Car Auctions to move masses to voting sites)..... so (this way) no one can prove (that there is) a conspiracy'...."

"...(Foval, formerly employed by George Soros' People For The American Way)... 'I think in reverse ....thinking how (the DOJ/FBI) would prosecute ( out of state voter fraud) and ...build a (counter) strategy to avoid that...and (seek to) implement it in every Republican held state/district..."

".......( Cesar Vargas, Founder Of The Dream Action Coalition, associate of Creamer/Foval)......'this is illegal ( what you are asking about hiring me to do, i.e. regarding US election laws on voter fraud).... but it (illegal activity of voter fraud that you want i.e. getting voters with work permits with false names) can be done (by me)... if the next President is Trump, then doing (fraud) in future elections makes even more sense and will be more credible.....count me in'....".

"...(Foval on voters in general)...'(we) beat the sh**t out of them and....(we) make (those) voters do what we tell them to do...not asking them nor expecting them...but making them'...."

UPDATED:

"......(Ryan Clayton, President Of America Takes Action, who chased the revealed undercover reporter, Allison Maass, and entered the taxi she has fled to for safety).... '(shouting) see you when you get reversed ambushed.....(don't cry girl) gotcha (you) b*******tch......you've been CREAMED (i.e. reference to Bob Creamer's name)'......"

( Clayton, who previously and officially worked for the Democratic Party in Missouri, was arrested by Capitol Police for assault/unlawful conduct, as well as being caught posing as a member of the media with false credentials multiple times, sending threatening hand written letters to women who supported a candidate he didn't like, accused of creating fake voter guides/sample ballots as well as trademark infringement and cyber piracy. This is one of the faces of the young Democratic Party?)

".....(Lauren Windsor, Executive Director Of American Family Voices, a linked business to Bob Creamer's Democracy Partners, under legal deposition, regarding an incident while confronting the undercover reporter, Allison Maass, who exposed Creamer/Foval).....'(have) you been to the Rape Barn? ....your boss is going to leave you out here (to deal with us alone and unprotected)?..... (Lawyer asks about the self uploaded video by Windsor) I object (to your characterization of my actions of editing the video of harassing the revealed undercover reporter).....(Lawyer asks what did Windsor do to make the video)...it's called editing...(Lawyer asks why Windsor's video edited out the harassment and threats)...(the video didn't show everything) as it was not needed to (develop) the narrative we were trying to produce' ....."

 
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Calling shenanigans on this.  You continued down the thread and also felt the need to respond.  I bet you did read it all.
After seeing the name of James O'Keefe there was no point in reading the rest of the OP. I did glance at the posts following that, which were as brief as mine.

 
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As soon as I saw James O'Keefe, I tuned out. It's amazing how bad the propagandists and liars have made this country's news consumption. That they don't suffer heinously for what they've done to well-meaning people who trust them is just a stroke of luck, I guess.

Mindless propaganda.

 
CONTEXTUAL MATERIAL:

Direct Headline: Video appears to show Democrat operatives admit to staging protests and inciting violence at Donald Trump rallies using paid agitators

Scott Foval is secretly recorded saying: 'If you do these actions, you will be attacked at Trump rallies. That's what we want'

October 18 2016 04:54 PM

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/video-appears-to-show-democrat-operatives-admit-to-staging-protests-and-inciting-violence-at-donald-trump-rallies-using-paid-agitators-35140663.html

Direct Headline: Hidden Camera Video Shows Democrats Sent Agitators To Trump Rallies

Alex Pfeiffer White House Correspondent October 17, 2016 1:38 PM ET

https://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/hidden-camera-video-shows-democrats-sent-agitators-to-trump-rallies/

Direct Headline: James O'Keefe: Clinton Campaign, DNC Coordinated With Organizations To Incite Violence At Trump Events

By Tim Hains  October 17, 2016

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/17/new_okeefe_video_clinton_campaign_dnc_coordinated_with_organizations_to_beat_up_trump_supporters.html

VIDEO: Federal Judge rules in favor of PV (Project Veritas) on two counts asserted by Clinton-Connected Democracy Partners •Apr 13, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THLdx-wfAdM

Direct Headline: Judge dismisses libel lawsuit by Asheville woman following 2016 Trump rally

by Kristy Kepley-Steward Wednesday, May 22nd 2019

https://wlos.com/news/local/judge-dismisses-libel-lawsuit-by-asheville-woman-following-2016-trump-rally

https://casetext.com/case/teter-v-project-veritas-action-fund-5

 
CONTEXTUAL MATERIAL:

(UPDATED) Direct Headline: Ryan Clayton: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

By Tom Cleary Oct 27, 2017 at 1:57am

https://heavy.com/news/2017/10/ryan-clayton-trump-russian-flag-protester/

Direct Headline: U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky under fire after husband accused of voter fraud, orchestrating violence at Trump rallies

Lauren Duquette/The Daily Northwestern

Republican congressional candidate Joan McCarthy Lasonde speaks to supporters and the media outside of the office of Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Evanston) ..... Lasonde called on Schakowsky to resign after videos released by Project Veritas Action appear to show Schakowsky’s husband talk about voter fraud.

https://dailynorthwestern.com/2016/10/20/city/u-s-rep-jan-schakowsky-under-fire-after-husband-accused-of-voter-fraud-orchestrating-violence-at-trump-rallies/

Direct Headline: U.S. rep’s husband sentenced for fraud

The husband of U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Evanston, was sentenced to five months in prison Wednesday after pleading guilty to bank fraud and not paying taxes.

Greg Hafkin and Elizabeth Gibson April 4, 2006

https://dailynorthwestern.com/2006/04/05/archive-manual/us-reps-husband-sentenced-for-fraud/

Direct Headline: Bird-Dogging Guide: Get Them on The Record

https://indivisible.org/resource/bird-dogging-guide-get-them-record

Direct Headline: Town Hall Protests Revive Art of Bird-Dogging Politicians

By Jon Schuppe  Feb. 22, 2017 01:41

When activists needed advice on disrupting Republican lawmakers' hometown events this month, they turned to Hugh Espey, a self-taught master in the art of political bird-dogging.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/town-hall-protests-revive-art-bird-dogging-politicians-n724161

 
ANALYSIS:

I created this thread topic on 1/13/21 -

HYPOCRISY: Democrats Called for Riots & Harm To President Trump For All Of 2020 (1/13 10:59 PST)

https://forums.footballguys.com/topic/792083-hypocrisy-democrats-called-for-riots-harm-to-president-trump-for-all-of-2020-113-1059-pst/

I urge people here to watch this video from that thread topic again, in light of this current updated thread topic on the DNC using operatives to pay the mentally ill to attack/incite violence against Republicans/conservatives trying to legally exercise their right to their political voice and peacefully assemble.

VIDEO: Democrats Calling for Riots & Harm to President Trump 2020

This video shows the hypocritical calls for riots and harm to our President •Sep 2, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw72Iiy6wqU

I ask again, given the current impeachment hearings for Donald Trump currently, the narrative becomes a disturbing but essential question - Who is really inciting violence in America regarding our votes and elections?

 
Thank you.  What happened over the summer and fall was sickening.  The DOJ should have followed the money on the protest/riots and brought justice to those groups.  The summer of love led us to the events on 1/6 as much as anything.  

 
Thank you.  What happened over the summer and fall was sickening.  The DOJ should have followed the money on the protest/riots and brought justice to those groups.  The summer of love led us to the events on 1/6 as much as anything.  
Ahh...blame the other side for January 6th...not sure I saw that one coming.

 
I watched some of these undercover videos, a lot of the targets are saying things that I think a reasonable person would find problematic.    

 
I watched some of these undercover videos, a lot of the targets are saying things that I think a reasonable person would find problematic.    
I don't watch such videos any longer...because OKeefe has been exposed as a liar who selectively edits things for effect.  That the true narrative is not just often, but most likely, far different than the one he presents.  He has zero credibility whatsoever.  I find his videos and those who continue to post them more problematic than the highly edited content that does not reflect the reality.

 
I don't watch such videos any longer...because OKeefe has been exposed as a liar who selectively edits things for effect.  That the true narrative is not just often, but most likely, far different than the one he presents.  He has zero credibility whatsoever.  I find his videos and those who continue to post them more problematic than the highly edited content that does not reflect the reality.
I hear that,  you can edit anything to meet a narrative.   

 
I get what you are saying, but why are these targets even saying these things even if edited.

edit: by edited, he's not dubbing over the targets statements, is he?
Missing context...among other things...makes whatever he catches pretty much useless and without real meaning.

Its nothing new for him...its part of what has gotten him into trouble before and a large reason he is not a reliable source of anything.

 
Trump got the mentally ill to incite violence without paying them. He truly is a great businessman. :mellow:
You bet he did!  BLM/Antifa tore thru cities like a Hurricane.  And all he had to do to get them to do that was get elected POTUS!

 
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So one incident 3 years ago is all you have?  You also quote a left bias source like The Atlantic? He has done dozens of investigations and you cancel him here for one?

I thought you had something substantive like he used CGI in his interviews.  

 
So one incident 3 years ago is all you have?  You also quote a left bias source like The Atlantic? He has done dozens of investigations and you cancel him here for one?

I thought you had something substantive like he used CGI in his interviews.  
One incident?  Yeah, you probably should read up more and understand that there are a ton of links and those links provided was about more than one thing.  Its not just about one...and you know that.  It has been discussed quite a lot on this board.  There is a reason nobody outside of the fringe believe him.

And to just call the Atlantic a Left biased source is laughable really...I mean...really really funny.  They have a slight lean left...based on multiple ratings sites.  For someone to post things from pjmedia, breitbart, redstate, gateway pundit...yet take issue with the Atlantic is really good stuff.

 
One incident?  Yeah, you probably should read up more and understand that there are a ton of links and those links provided was about more than one thing.  Its not just about one...and you know that.  It has been discussed quite a lot on this board.  There is a reason nobody outside of the fringe believe him.

And to just call the Atlantic a Left biased source is laughable really...I mean...really really funny.  They have a slight lean left...based on multiple ratings sites.  For someone to post things from pjmedia, breitbart, redstate, gateway pundit...yet take issue with the Atlantic is really good stuff.
Again, please keep your posts about the subject and not your personal slap fighting.   You were unable to support your POV with current information.  It happens.  Learn from it and be better.  Good day.  

 
Missing context...among other things...makes whatever he catches pretty much useless and without real meaning.....


Direct Headline: Democratic Operative Fired, Another Resigns In Wake Of Undercover Videos

The operatives were heard discussing sending agitators to Trump rallies to incite the candidate's supporters into violence. The DNC denies employing the tactic.

Salvador Hernandez  October 18, 2016, at 11:30 p.m. ET

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/democratic-operative-fired-another-resigns-in-wake-of-underc

".....(Donna Brazile, interim DNC chair, in a statement a mere 36 hours after these videos were released)......'(The actions) described in the (incriminating) video ... do not, in any way, (reflect on) our long standing policies on (political) events (are organized)....and those statements and sentiments (by Creamer, Foval, Minter and Vargas) ...do not (truly) represent the (overall) values that the (DNC) holds dear'......."

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Within 36 hours of the release of these pair of videos, Foval was fired and Creamer resigned. The left leaning MSM completely laughable narrative was that Foval was "laid off" and Creamer would "step back" and his own Democracy Partners would no longer be paid nor be associated with the entire DNC. (Which would indicate why Lauren Windsor was caught on video running down the street and implying violence and rape to the young undercover investigative reporter who sourced this scandal, i.e. Windsor was a business partner of Creamer and now she was going to lose out on jobs/money/opportunity as well)

If this scandal, was, as you say, "pretty much useless" then why were Foval and Creamer both turfed?

If this scandal, was, as you say, "without real meaning" then why did the then head of the DNC, Brazile, have to make a public statement, a mere 36 hours later, denouncing the behavior and distancing the entire DNC from both of the accused?  There was no denial of what was said on the video nor the denial of criminal behavior that included voter/election fraud.

( Keep in mind, Brazile was only head of the DNC at the time because Debbie Wasserman Schultz was fired, when WikiLeaks revealed that DNC HQ and Hillary Clinton had conspired to make sure Bernie Sanders did not get the 2016 DNC nomination for the election. The implications surrounding this event included discussion of money laundering and tax fraud. Are you also prepared to deny this act of election fraud as well, i.e. the DNC 2016 primaries?)

You say you didn't watch the videos, but you have already decided what was on them is entirely false and fabricated and the product of not enough context and some kind of manipulation.

What kind of context is needed to justify saying the DNC was going to use operatives like Foval to hire the mentally ill to attack American citizens simply trying to use their political voice and peacefully assemble?

 
Again, please keep your posts about the subject and not your personal slap fighting.   You were unable to support your POV with current information.  It happens.  Learn from it and be better.  Good day.  
It was about the subject of being questioned for posting something from the Atlantic.  I supported my POV with 3 links...google can provide you many more as to why Okeefe and Veritas are not reliable sources for any information.  And laughable to complain about slap fighting...then make the be better comment.

But yeah...best to both walk away before getting a little vacation.

 
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You seem like a guy, and it's just my assumption, who wants the final word.   Why not the final word with Gekko?   
I don't give a rat's behind about the final word.

And I don't care to go back and forth with people I find completely unreasonable and who have proven so several times over.  

Walking away now...enjoy.

 
I don't give a rat's behind about the final word.

And I don't care to go back and forth with people I find completely unreasonable and who have proven so several times over.  

Walking away now...enjoy.
I think it is impossible to get the final word with Mr. Gekko. 

 
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That is the point...the account apparently posts too much false information Little, if any, truth.....


Direct Headline: Clinton-Connected Democracy Partners Handed Two Early Defeats in Its Lawsuit Against Project Veritas: Court Dismisses “Trespass” and “Breach of Fiduciary Duty” Counts

- Democracy Partners was Exposed by Project Veritas Action Fund for Promoting Violence at Trump Rallies in 2016 and It Has Been Seeking Revenge Through Litigation

- Project Veritas is Confident That a Trial on the Remaining Counts in the Lawsuit Will Result in a Veritas Victory; Remaining Counts Include “Unlawful Interception of Oral Communications,” “Fraudulent Misrepresentation,” and “Civil Conspiracy”

- Project Veritas is Undefeated in Litigious Attacks on Investigations

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/clinton-connected-democracy-partners-handed-two-early-defeats-in-its-lawsuit/

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".....'The lawsuit (against James O'Keefe) does not challenge the truthfulness of what was (shown) in the (two incriminating) videos.... instead Democracy Partners is (making the legal case) that (Allison Maass who sourced the story)  broke (specific) laws while news gathering'......."

"....'Two of the original (legal claims) in (Democracy Partners/Bob Creamer's) lawsuit were dismissed by a federal judge ( 1. Trespass and 2. Breach of Fiduciary Duty)'......"

"....(United States District Court Judge Martin Reidinger , Western District of North Carolina, dismissed a previous lawsuit against James O'Keefe brought by Shirley Teter, saying the videos falsely claimed she (was paid and trained) to incite a disturbance (and violence) at a 2016 Trump campaign rally)...'If you [Teter] made this (same legal) argument against (world recognized journalist) Mike Wallace.... would every (single person in this courtroom) laugh (at you)?'........”

“…(Reidinger).....'if Fourth Circuit (Appeals) says (I got the law wrong and applied it incorrectly in this case).... I (hesitate/shudder/am fearful) to visualize where the First Amendment is going ( to go/head towards) in (the United States)'.......”

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In your role as "SHO NUFF of the House Cancel Culture, First of His Wokeness, the Properly Sourced, King of the Leftists and the First Progressives, Khalesar of the Democratic National Committee, Breaker of Republicans, and Child Support Paying Step Father of all wayward Kamalas" have decided that...

...there is too much false information and not enough truth...

Yet, Bob Creamer, Scott Foval, Aaron Minter and Cesar Vargas did not sue James O'Keefe for telling lies and promoting falsehoods. In no way, shape or type of legal form did any of them do so even though the videos effectively ended their political related careers forever. They could only TRY to sue claiming investigative reporter Maass broke the law in how she gathered the video/information in the videos.

If James O'Keefe and Allison Maass are lying and slandered/libeled them to the point of untold financial damage in the entire loss of the accused careers, then why didn't Bob Creamer, Scott Foval and Democracy Partners sue them for this?

The remaining legal issues of dispute are

- “Unlawful Interception of Oral Communications”

- “Fraudulent Misrepresentation”

- “Civil Conspiracy.”

I'm more than willing to go over each issue EXHAUSTIVELY after you've asserted here in public how James O'Keefe is guilty of any of these remaining charges.

You intentionally came into this thread to personally attack me and troll me and hijack this thread, so you'll find no quarter from anyone on this entire site. You'll notice I've systematically picked off my most vocal opposition here over time. You could always hit the Report Button, like taking your football and crying all the way home to Mommy was going out of style, but I have strong doubts you'll find much purchase there since you decided you wanted confrontation with Old Man Gekko. And how has confrontation with Old Man Gekko worked out for everyone else in the PSF who has tried it?

You wanted some, now come get some. Come get all of it.

Your move, Chachi.

 
It was about the subject of being questioned for posting something from the Atlantic.  I supported my POV with 3 links...google can provide you many more as to why Okeefe and Veritas are not reliable sources for any information.  And laughable to complain about slap fighting...then make the be better comment.

But yeah...best to both walk away before getting a little vacation.
I searched online and only found that one instance where he did selective editing. What other ones are there? Not being a smart ### just interested in what searches you are using.

 
Propaganda issued by a teacher’s Union O’Keefe exposed is your source?  Good grief.  
Proclaiming something propaganda is nice...its not true at all of the link and what they sourced there...including court cases filed and testimony therein...pulitzer prize winning articles detailing Veritas's behavior...restraining orders in Michigan...edits of NPR...  It is all in there cited out for all to see.  So no...its not propaganda.  However...you see that when Veritas is funded by conservative donors and the Trump Foundation...that they are very much propaganda and misinformation. As has been shown by multiple links already.  To claim it is one instance of editing..has been proven false.

 
Proclaiming something propaganda is nice...its not true at all of the link and what they sourced there...including court cases filed and testimony therein...pulitzer prize winning articles detailing Veritas's behavior...restraining orders in Michigan...edits of NPR...  It is all in there cited out for all to see.  So no...its not propaganda.  However...you see that when Veritas is funded by conservative donors and the Trump Foundation...that they are very much propaganda and misinformation. As has been shown by multiple links already.  To claim it is one instance of editing..has been proven false.
Apparently, Veritas is undefeated in court, so you’re leaving out the most important details rather than citing charges and accusations. 

 

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