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Martz loves O`Sullivan. Martz wanted to play him over Kitna last year in Detroit but Kitna is Rods guy.
I agree with David, not to mention that he's a favorite of Martz. Martz has even come out and said that JTO is the best QB he's ever coached.
so if O'sullivan leads the 49ers to the best record they've had in recent memory, you think Martz will want to upgrade mid season?
come on, this is no fishing trip and happens all the time in professional sports todayteams overachieve, then start realizing that they can potentially be a playoff team if they add one key piece, and in the NFL, the QB position is as key as it getsit rarely happens in football, but does occur in the NBA and MLB frequently
lol exactly
why do you suppose that is? do NFL teams not want to win as badly as NBA or MLB teams?
other sports contracts contain a ton of guaranteed money that teams cannot justify paying if their team is out of contention, so for them it's more a matter of dumping salary
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No. I feel dumber for reading this thread. Please go back to the Assistant Coach Forum.
I can't remember ANY team doing this mid-season. (NFL)IF you need a QB, you should have already addressed that during the preseason. I could see this happening with a WR or just about any other position other then at QB.
No. JT looked shaky week 1 but he has been better than average the last two weeks.Similar to Marc Bulger while Martz was in St Louis...O'Sullivan is the choice and if he stays healthy he'll keep the job and put up decent numbers.
Um, fact. When have we ever seen anything like this happen in the NFL? Some people apparently cannot let this Favre story die its natural death.Congratulations to azcards for starting the most asinine thread of the day!
Maybe I missed it. Did they trade for Garcia or Favre? Or any "NFL proven quality QB" for that matter?where are all the JTO apologists and lovers now?with the talent the team possesses, they could easily be .500 or better with improved QB play, and in the NFC West they'd be right in the thick of the race
that's exactly what i'm saying and the point that i'm makingthe decided to stick to their guys with JTO and found out the hard way that he's nowhere near the QB they expected him to be, had they traded for a Garcia, Kitna, Favre, or even Grossman, they'd be a much better team right now and in the thick of the playoff huntMaybe I missed it. Did they trade for Garcia or Favre? Or any "NFL proven quality QB" for that matter?where are all the JTO apologists and lovers now?with the talent the team possesses, they could easily be .500 or better with improved QB play, and in the NFC West they'd be right in the thick of the race
Uh, what talent does the team possess, again?where are all the JTO apologists and lovers now?with the talent the team possesses, they could easily be .500 or better with improved QB play, and in the NFC West they'd be right in the thick of the race
honestly, this team could easily be .500 or better right now if it weren't for all the turnovers from the QB positionanytime JTO was in a pressure situation or close game, he turned the ball over and killed any hopes the Niners had of winning that gameUh, what talent does the team possess, again?where are all the JTO apologists and lovers now?with the talent the team possesses, they could easily be .500 or better with improved QB play, and in the NFC West they'd be right in the thick of the race
The team sucks. The best you can say about them is that they're #19 in scoring offense. They're #24 in offense by yardage, #15 in defense by yardage and #29 in scoring defense. Frankly, they're lucky to have won two games. They have one piece of talent, Frank Gore, and what do they do with him? Rank #30 in rushing attempts in the league. From ownership to coaches to players, this is one of the worst teams in the league; they're fortunate that the Raiders, Bengals, and Lions are all wretched this year, or they'd be getting more attention as a complete train wreck.honestly, this team could easily be .500 or better right now if it weren't for all the turnovers from the QB positionanytime JTO was in a pressure situation or close game, he turned the ball over and killed any hopes the Niners had of winning that gameUh, what talent does the team possess, again?where are all the JTO apologists and lovers now?with the talent the team possesses, they could easily be .500 or better with improved QB play, and in the NFC West they'd be right in the thick of the race
alot of this has to be attributed to the fact that JTO was turning the ball over, which means opposing offenses were playing on short fields throughout the game, meaning the Niners were down alot so they had to throw the ball to catch up and weren't afforded the luxury of sticking to the running gameThe team sucks. The best you can say about them is that they're #19 in scoring offense. They're #24 in offense by yardage, #15 in defense by yardage and #29 in scoring defense. Frankly, they're lucky to have won two games. They have one piece of talent, Frank Gore, and what do they do with him? Rank #30 in rushing attempts in the league. From ownership to coaches to players, this is one of the worst teams in the league; they're fortunate that the Raiders, Bengals, and Lions are all wretched this year, or they'd be getting more attention as a complete train wreck.honestly, this team could easily be .500 or better right now if it weren't for all the turnovers from the QB positionanytime JTO was in a pressure situation or close game, he turned the ball over and killed any hopes the Niners had of winning that gameUh, what talent does the team possess, again?where are all the JTO apologists and lovers now?with the talent the team possesses, they could easily be .500 or better with improved QB play, and in the NFC West they'd be right in the thick of the race
I believe they will draft the best QB available with the First Overall selection
Thus repeating the mistake they made with Alex Smith. You're right, that would be totally typical for this team.
just because they failed once taking a QB with the #1 overall pick, does that mean they should never do it again, or does it simply mean that Nolan shouldn't have taken a mid-major QB from a Mickey Mouse system at #1 overall? He would have been alright, in my opinion, had he taken Aaron Rodgers there
This view really isn't borne out by the game logs. For example, look at the Philly game, where Gore was running well (19/101 with a TD). With the Niners leading 23-17 with 4:56 left in the third quarter, on fourth and one at the Philly 18, Gore got three yards for a first down, leading to a Niner field goal (Niners up 26-17 in the third). Here are the Niner plays after that:
22) F.Gore up the middle to SF 12 for no gain (B.Bunkley).
Rodgers would have gotten demolished on that awful team just like Smith did. They should have brought in a decent veteran QB to manage the team while they rebuilt from the ground up. Instead they went for a questionable "franchise" QB and followed up that clearly erroneous pick with Vernon Davis, a TE taken at 1.06 "to give Smith some weapons". Considering how bad this team has been, it's incredible how few contributors they've managed to get out of the draft; you'd think that a team with the #32 offense and #32 defense in the league could come up with a few solid starters out of the draft.
