Do you ever NOT make a trade even if you are (1 Viewer)

[comfortably numb]

Just curious how most owners handle deals where they are getting amazing value on a player they don't want to trade.

Say someone blows you away with an offer for ADP or Fitz, do you take a deal adding many extra pieces to your team of great value, or do you just flat out reject the offer?

Have you ever passed on a deal where you were getting AMAZING value, and you knew it was good value at the time?

If so, how did it work out? Did you regret it?

Is there really any player on your roster that is UN-TRADEABLE? At any price?

 

[Avery]

I generally try to walk away from a trade, especially in dynasty, with the best player in the deal. Quality over quantity you might say. So in that sense, I'd be unlikely to trade someone like Fitz or ADP, who I put as the best players at their respective positions.

Having said that I could see scenarios where there is so much value I might break my rule, say Calvin Johnson, MJD and Witten for Fitz.

 

[Da Guru]

I generally try to walk away from a trade, especially in dynasty, with the best player in the deal. Quality over quantity you might say. So in that sense, I'd be unlikely to trade someone like Fitz or ADP, who I put as the best players at their respective positions.

Having said that I could see scenarios where there is so much value I might break my rule, say Calvin Johnson, MJD and Witten for Fitz.

Who in their right mind would offer CJ, MJD and Witten for Fitz???If I was the Fitz owner I would jump all over that!

 

[Avery]

I generally try to walk away from a trade, especially in dynasty, with the best player in the deal. Quality over quantity you might say. So in that sense, I'd be unlikely to trade someone like Fitz or ADP, who I put as the best players at their respective positions.

Having said that I could see scenarios where there is so much value I might break my rule, say Calvin Johnson, MJD and Witten for Fitz.

Who in their right mind would offer CJ, MJD and Witten for Fitz???If I was the Fitz owner I would jump all over that!

That was kinda my point.Never say never but the offer for Fitz or ADP (as the exemplar players) that I couldn't say no to wouldn't be likely to come.

 

[The High Priest]

I love trading, just for the fact its part of the fun for me in the whole spectrum of FF. Usally I get 1 in a year, and this(last) year was no diffrent. I was 8-1 and one of the owners whom I have a good trade relationship with called me on the last night before the deadline. I was super busy with work at the time so it slipped my mind it was so near. He wanted one of my WRs I had 4 good ones as per strategy that year, and I needed a QB. So I gave him Marshall whom he coveted and Cambell(qb) In return I got Warner and a rb who only had 1 good game up untill then..D.Williams. Williams was the total throw in at the time and as we know....wow did I get lucky. The kicker was I played him the next week and Warner and Williams were the only guys to put up real stats for me as I won :0

I didnt at the time really want to trade Marshall, but I needed a QB and I had 2 hr to make a decicion and thought what the hey!

I wouldnt have done it if I wasnt so deep at WR.(had TO /CJ2) .

 

[FUBAR]

Just curious how most owners handle deals where they are getting amazing value on a player they don't want to trade.Say someone blows you away with an offer for ADP or Fitz, do you take a deal adding many extra pieces to your team of great value, or do you just flat out reject the offer?Have you ever passed on a deal where you were getting AMAZING value, and you knew it was good value at the time?If so, how did it work out? Did you regret it?Is there really any player on your roster that is UN-TRADEABLE? At any price?

For me, it's less about getting "amazing value" and more about helping my team. There are many times when I've passed up deals that were "amazing" when they just didn't help my team. But no, as a general rule, no player is completely untradeable.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

One other thing is team makeup. Also, I have found the converse true. There are some players that I would not want on my team, without regard to value.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Depends on the team. I just took over a pitiful team at the end of last year, just to see what I could do. It only has two good players. A top 5 dynasty RB and a top 5 QB with no 1st round pick. The rest is junk... at best. All but those two players, and one other WR I wouldn't even roster on my other dynasty team. On this team, I would trade the studs for quantity 'cause the team won't be competitive for a LONG time otherwise. Yeah, I'd like to use those two studs to build around, but if I can get 3 startable guys for one top one, I'll take it.

Conversely, on my other dynasty team, I'm the one giving 3 good players for one top guy. On that team, I don't have the roster space for quantity, just quality. When Santonio Holmes is your #6 WR, well... yeah. I'm bragging.

 

[coolnerd]

Just curious how most owners handle deals where they are getting amazing value on a player they don't want to trade.Say someone blows you away with an offer for ADP or Fitz, do you take a deal adding many extra pieces to your team of great value, or do you just flat out reject the offer?Have you ever passed on a deal where you were getting AMAZING value, and you knew it was good value at the time?If so, how did it work out? Did you regret it?Is there really any player on your roster that is UN-TRADEABLE? At any price?

I try not to trade to trade, so if i don't see the value to my roster even if the universal value is good, I have no problem saying no.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

Nobody is untradeable... but in my main dynasty league I have been fortunate enough to acquire a number of studs. Consequently, I have received a number of offers, some of them very tempting.... but in that league it comes down to whether or not the trade is going to help me win a championship. Improving my depth and backups is not the way to win championships; you don't get points from your bench.

 

[Crippler]

The other way holds true also in the end. Sometimes paying more will set a team up.

I just got an offer where I was going to get Calvin Johnson but the price was huge. Way more than the guy paid for Larry Fitzgerald less than a year ago and more than in a 16 team 2 QB league, than Drew Brees just went for. It would have taken a team that I am in the same division with who has 4 studs and a bunch of crap in start 9 QB-RB-WR-TE and filled in those 5 spots for him. My team might have been better but his way going to be way better.

So not always great to overpay for a stud.

 

[Mimo]

I love trading so I always have a few deals out there. It does amaze me the love guys have for players. Love to the point that a blind eye is given to deals. In recent weeks......

NON-PPR Dynasty

I offered Peyton and Ronnie Brown for Ben and Chris Johnson......REJECTED

I offered Peyton and MBIII for Ben and Chris Johnson......REJECTED

I offered S Jax or Gore and Royal for Addai and Fitz......REJECTED

I offered S Jax and Royal for McFadden and 1.1......REJECTED

I offered Peyton, MBIII or Gore and Royal for Ben, Bush, Mendy and Wayne.......REJECTED

I have offered many more but in all the deals above I would have been running to the CPU to accept. But instead I get counters like.......

Orton, LenDale, Josh Morgan and 3rd rd rookie for Manning

Antonio Bryant and 2nd rd rookie for Jennings

Willie Parker and Derrick Ward for Gore

I don't know what to think.......

 

[Dr. Octopus]

No one is untradable imo but sometimes even a deal that seems like tremdnous value isn't enough to sway me if I think a certain player is too valauble to my chances this season and in the future to trade him.

For example I was recently offered the 2009 1.01, 2009 3.01 and Chris Chambers for Andre Johnson. While the deal was definately "fair" and pretty good value for AJ, on paper, it was easy to turn down nevertheless.

 

[Dave Stauff]

Most of my dynasty rosters don't have the space to accept the multiple players I would acquire in a mega-deal, so for the most part these players are untradeable. Now I would consider multiple future 1st round picks as part of a package, but multiple players unlikely. I subscribe to the "core" player theory and my core players would be very hard to dislodge in a two-fer deal.

 

[trader jake]

Do you ever NOT make a trade even if you are, getting amazing value on a seemingly untradeable player?

No player is untradeable - buy low, sell high. The exact best time to trade that mega-stud is often when other owners would consider them untradeable if they owned them.

 

[Genester]

Is there really any player on your roster that is UN-TRADEABLE? At any price?

No one is untreadeable for the right price, Jay.Sincerely, Josh McDaniels

 

[Avery]

No one is untradable imo but sometimes even a deal that seems like tremdnous value isn't enough to sway me if I think a certain player is too valauble to my chances this season and in the future to trade him.For example I was recently offered the 2009 1.01, 2009 3.01 and Chris Chambers for Andre Johnson. While the deal was definately "fair" and pretty good value for AJ, on paper, it was easy to turn down nevertheless.

Personally, I don't think that would be fair value for Andre Johnson at all.

 

[GregR_2]

Just curious how most owners handle deals where they are getting amazing value on a player they don't want to trade.Say someone blows you away with an offer for ADP or Fitz, do you take a deal adding many extra pieces to your team of great value, or do you just flat out reject the offer?Have you ever passed on a deal where you were getting AMAZING value, and you knew it was good value at the time?If so, how did it work out? Did you regret it?Is there really any player on your roster that is UN-TRADEABLE? At any price?

I try not to trade to trade, so if i don't see the value to my roster even if the universal value is good, I have no problem saying no.

This is what I was thinking as well. Just naming players that one would be getting in a trade doesn't really tell you anything about the value it brings to the team. To get at whether it is amazing value, you have to look at the scoring lost from your ADP/Fitz type player to who you start without him and compare it to the scoring you gain when your new players outscore the guys you would have started otherwise.Once I'm looking at the correct value, then there is no such thing as an untradeable player. I would want more than a break-even in value to give up a top player for a larger group of lesser players, but if my gain in scoring is enough I'll do it. However, there are untradeable situations.... where no team out there has a collection of players they can trade who can improve my situation enough to make it worth it to me to give up a bona fide stud. As CookieMonster noted, when you have a really bad team then trading those great players makes much more sense because it is easier to find trades that improve your team much more than what you give up. I think in dynasty and contract leagues that is a very legitimate way of rebuilding your team quickly. I've seen this happen recently... I acquired onto my team that had amazing depth, Brady (right before his huge season) and Fitz in two trades from the same owner who had been dead last the year before and had worthless starters other than those two (in a league that starts 11 offensive players and 11 IDPs). He picked up a bunch of solid players including a replacement QB and his handcuff, 2 starting RBs with one's handcuff and another talented backup, 3 starting WRs, and a top notch IDP... and most all at very low priced contracts. Even with giving up Brady the year he blew up, he almost won his division and made the playoffs. The next year (last year) he added a few more pieces in trades and the draft and won the league championship.It makes good sense for really weak teams to trade away some studs if they can get sweet heart deals for them. Much less sense for a top team to do it since he already has good starters and isn't likely to get a group of them enough to make up for his loss.