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gianmarco

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After reading all of the "..... cost me a playoff spot", wanted to see what the overall consensus on this was. Much easier to post when things go bad than when they go good so let's see how it looks overall.

 
I like the Shark Pool for hearing about players I don't keep up on. The dialogue is much more helpful then seeing just FBG's projections and just numbers. The information I learn in the Shark Pool helps me make my own decisions and as far as FBG's paid stuff goes......it is good, probably the best out there, but I manage my own teams.

That's what makes fantasy football fun. Doing it yourself and learning a bit more about other players/teams.

 
I'm a paid subscriber, but you have to realize these guys are just guessing, just like we are. I mean, they're well educated guesses, I'm not trying to minimize the effort and analysis they do to come to their conclusions, but that's what it boils down to.

In the end, I use them the way I'd use the Assistant Coaches forum, as a sounding board to help me make decisions.

 
I haven't subscribed in two years but may start again next year. It's FBGs stat crunching that I used to use to HELP me make my decisions. That's what I miss more. As far as the Shark pool goes, its nice to hear different opinions out there but only if they make you think and reconsider your own opinions, not take everything as gospel. The problem is that too many people in the Shark pool consider themselves Sharks.

 
but you have to realize these guys are just guessing, just like we are.
difference is......we're not PAID for guessing
Guess I don't see your point. Getting paid doesn't make them clairvoyant. It just means they do a lot of homework. Sometimes they're spectacularly wrong. I pay them for their knowledgeable opinions, and the fact that I know there is solid analysis behind it. Sometimes I take their advice and get burned (starting Jamal Lewis) sometimes I ignore their advice and get burned (no benching Chris Johnson). Expecting more than that is expecting more than humans can do.
 
Best thing FBG does for me each year is the preseason information and the Draft Dominator. I don't make weekly decisions that often based on the paid content, but rather manage my team based on my gut feel for matchups when I have close calls. The best value I get from the paid content is keeping up with injuries and GTD.

The SP adds value by bringing to light situations in cities where I don't closely follow the teams regarding who looks good, who may be dinged up, etc. I've made some good waiver moves based on information in the SP. From what I've seen, you can get a jump on news here before it is widely available.

I've been a top contending team across several competitive leagues for years, and some of that success I attribute to FBGs and the SP.

 
Best thing FBG does for me each year is the preseason information and the Draft Dominator. I don't make weekly decisions that often based on the paid content, but rather manage my team based on my gut feel for matchups when I have close calls. The best value I get from the paid content is keeping up with injuries and GTD.The SP adds value by bringing to light situations in cities where I don't closely follow the teams regarding who looks good, who may be dinged up, etc. I've made some good waiver moves based on information in the SP. From what I've seen, you can get a jump on news here before it is widely available.I've been a top contending team across several competitive leagues for years, and some of that success I attribute to FBGs and the SP.
:thumbup: I don't even use the draft dominator (1st year as a subscriber and looked like too much work). But, if you can find what works best for you between all of their content and wading thru the SP to get the good stuff and it's very easy to stay a step ahead.
 
BOTH help me tremendously. The paid content more in the pre-season for cheatsheets and DD. If I'm unsure of who I want to start throughout the season I'll use the cheatsheets to help me make my mind up.

But for the majority of in-season information. I utilize the SP MUCH more. Most of my leagues are full of pretty sharp guys and the first to get information has a significant advantage. The SP is the best place on the web for that IMO. Even if some of it is rumor, taking a chance on a rumor has paid me GREAT dividends in the past.

So, both are worth their weight in gold to me. :thumbup:

 
I think it helps, if you have enough sense to read the information, distill it, and then make form and educated opinion. Unfortunately, there are some people who take what is said on here as gospel.

 
The paid content helps by giving a well thought out opinion about players.

The Shark Pool can make or break your season. When I first found this place my overall knowledge of football and fantasy football spiked. Since then there was a 2 year period where I began over thinking everything. I knew I had that cant miss sleeper waiting for me late in the draft so I would take more risks early. Since then I have learned how to read threads productively and have been making better decisions.

I find that the preview and review podcasts are very helpful. The preview podcasts help me get an overall picture for match ups and often have nuggets that I might overlook. I usually only watch 2 or 3 games each weekend, so the review podcasts have been a great way to hear what took place in all of those other games.

 
IMO the paid material is worth it for the articles and apps alone, nevermind the weekly projections.

There are about 5 posters that provide something of FF value in the Shark Pool, and a couple hundred who are unintentionally hilarious.

I laugh at the fools who blame magazines & websites for their ####ty season.

 
I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.

 
I like the Shark Pool for hearing about players I don't keep up on. The dialogue is much more helpful then seeing just FBG's projections and just numbers. The information I learn in the Shark Pool helps me make my own decisions and as far as FBG's paid stuff goes......it is good, probably the best out there, but I manage my own teams. That's what makes fantasy football fun. Doing it yourself and learning a bit more about other players/teams.
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The only thing I use the the DD, I am in three leagues and it makes it so much easier to draft and keep track of players.

I rarely if ever use the rankings because lets face..rankings are a crap shoot. I had a pretty god idea that Forte would have a good day yesterday as well as Warrick Dunn

 
I don't reallly take straight advice from the Shark Pool, but love the work people do in picking out statistics and information on how players are used.

With regards to any paid service or rankings...not sure how much I trust them overall, except sometimes they point out things I need to research 'hey this guy is ranked very high...I wonder why.'

 
When my team performs poorly it is FBGs fault, when my team excels it is because of my awesome coaching ability.

 
I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.
:blackdot: Luck is a factor, just like in Poker, but skill, knowledge and preparation are more important part.

Sure you can lose a first rounder through injury, but you should draft depth.

You should scout the waiver wire. A lot of people give up once they draft or go to the waiver wire only to get emergency help.

You should always be looking to improve your roster, always.

Saying it's luck is the lazy man's easy way out.

 
FBG is the best resource there is. Between the mainstay experts' weekly features and the folks chiming in on The Shark Pool, you get a variety of good perspectives. There are other sites and sources of info. But this is where I turn first.

That said, I agree with the statement that your lineup should consist of what your instincts tell you. But the views expressed here are top-notch for debate and discussion.

 
the injury information on this board is by the far the most valuable thing that fbg contributes.

additionally, its a good place for the accumulation of news on players since im not gonna keep track of 3 houston papers and the local radio to follow the status of schaub, or kevin walters role in the offense.

 
I was fortunate that when I first starting playing FF I was told about Footballguys. My first 3 seasons I used the rankings religiously. Then I began to evolve, I found some other sites and started using the sharkpool.

I love the Draft Dominator because I can plug in my own guesses for projections and develop my own cheatsheets for draft day.

The sharkpool can be awesome. Sometimes it is irksome sifting through all the junk posts but I have learned to look at who has started threads and who was the last post. I have come to value several of the posters comments much higher than the content from football guys and when I catch one of the names I like I will frequently revisit that thread. Unfortunately the posters I like do not post that frequently, but it is joyous when I notice one and I voraciously devour any advise they give. Want to say thanks to you guys ... I think you have a good idea who you are.

Edited to add. The only weekly content I really peek at on the site are the weekly rankings and Dodds' value going forward. What would really improve them in my eyes is that when a player is moved significantly on either of these lists that Dodds or whoever is authoring them would highlight that move and write a short burb as to why they are making the adjustment.

 
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I don't think most people have any clue whatsoever just how much luck and variance is involved in a player's stat-line for any 60 minutes of football. One missed tackle and 74 yards later you're looking like a genius for pegging a WR as underrated that week.

I think most good fantasy sites research historical trends, have a good understanding of injuries and team news. And what all of that boils down to is that by subscribing to a paid service, you are essentially shaving a few % pts. off of the luck factor.

That's what people need to be aware of up front is that even someone who studies this hobby tirelessly is slightly better than throwing darts. Which is usually good enough to take a non-playoff playoff and put him on the bubble. Or take a playoff player and put him in a championship game (but not always - that whole luck thing again).

 
I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.
:popcorn: Luck is a factor, just like in Poker, but skill, knowledge and preparation are more important part.

Sure you can lose a first rounder through injury, but you should draft depth.

You should scout the waiver wire. A lot of people give up once they draft or go to the waiver wire only to get emergency help.

You should always be looking to improve your roster, always.

Saying it's luck is the lazy man's easy way out.
Not so. An owner can be prepared and up-to-date with latest news, injuries, etc, but luck plays a MAJOR part of FF. We are dealing with unknowns. For example, I considered my team a playoff caliber team and came away on draft day happy with my squad. I made the best possible decisions given the information I had at my disposal. 12 weeks later, I'm a top scoring team in my league but will miss the playoffs because I have a losing record because I have played the highest scoring team for a given week 4 times this season. How can I influence that? I'm not complaining about my BAD luck and you could argue that I should play in a different league setup, but I enjoy playing FF with my college buddies and the camaraderie is more important to me.

Anyone who says that luck is not a major part of FF is fooling themselves into believing they are smarter and better at FF then they are.

 
I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.
:yes: Luck is a factor, just like in Poker, but skill, knowledge and preparation are more important part.

Sure you can lose a first rounder through injury, but you should draft depth.

You should scout the waiver wire. A lot of people give up once they draft or go to the waiver wire only to get emergency help.

You should always be looking to improve your roster, always.

Saying it's luck is the lazy man's easy way out.
Saying it's skill is the intellectually dishonest way out.
 
I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.
:thumbup: Luck is a factor, just like in Poker, but skill, knowledge and preparation are more important part.

Sure you can lose a first rounder through injury, but you should draft depth.

You should scout the waiver wire. A lot of people give up once they draft or go to the waiver wire only to get emergency help.

You should always be looking to improve your roster, always.

Saying it's luck is the lazy man's easy way out.
Saying it's skill is the intellectually dishonest way out.
So you're thinking there's not skill involved?
 
I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.
:bs: Luck is a factor, just like in Poker, but skill, knowledge and preparation are more important part.

Sure you can lose a first rounder through injury, but you should draft depth.

You should scout the waiver wire. A lot of people give up once they draft or go to the waiver wire only to get emergency help.

You should always be looking to improve your roster, always.

Saying it's luck is the lazy man's easy way out.
Saying it's skill is the intellectually dishonest way out.
So you're thinking there's not skill involved?
No. I think anyone who discounts luck in fantasy football is lying to themselves.
 
I have not paid for FBG info. Sometimes I think it hurts more than helps b/c there's too much info, but it's certainly helped me much more than hurt.

What hurts in this hobby is how much luck is involved

 
Paid content:

1. Contest - Even if I suck at the contest, I pay to play in it. If no contest, probably not paying.

2. Dynasty content. Redraft info pays the bills though. So I take what I can get.

3. Line-up Dominator - pretty cool tool that has very useful information.

That's it. The rest is just fluff to me. Stuff that can be found elsewhere.

Messageboard:

1. Volume of postings entertains me. If it didn't have as many posts, I wouldn't read.

2. Meaty posters' opinions. I don't have favorite posters, but I like to read well thought out discussions.

3. Messageboard info > paid content. For me at least. Some paid content ends up as repackaged info from the messageboard with a new author. I wish article authors were required to cite their references like regular publications. Obviously, projections and rankings don't fall into my articles category. They are original content. I consider the messageboard as "real time" information and paid content as follow-up information.

Much like fast food, Walmart, or a 7-11, you pay the subscription for one-stop shopping. There is nothing wrong with that. All are very successful enterprises.

 
I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.
:goodposting: Luck is a factor, just like in Poker, but skill, knowledge and preparation are more important part.

Sure you can lose a first rounder through injury, but you should draft depth.

You should scout the waiver wire. A lot of people give up once they draft or go to the waiver wire only to get emergency help.

You should always be looking to improve your roster, always.

Saying it's luck is the lazy man's easy way out.
I think this is true. Luck is a factor, but not as big a factor as some claim. In my main redraft league it is the group of guys fighting for the trophy each year. There are 4 teams that make the playoffs almost every year, 4 that make the playoffs about half the time and then 4 that hardly ever make the playoffs. The luck factor does get involved from year to year and this year one of the best owners will miss the playoffs. If luck was such a huge factor the same teams would not be twords the top of the league every year.
 
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I think what all owners are looking for (especially in Keeper leagues) is consistency and I feel like year in

and year out FGuys has helped me maintain that. You can't win a title every year but if you make the playoffs

you sure have a shot. I do use another pay site as an additional resource but their message boards are weak at best.

 
I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.
:thumbup: Luck is a factor, just like in Poker, but skill, knowledge and preparation are more important part.

Sure you can lose a first rounder through injury, but you should draft depth.

You should scout the waiver wire. A lot of people give up once they draft or go to the waiver wire only to get emergency help.

You should always be looking to improve your roster, always.

Saying it's luck is the lazy man's easy way out.
I think this is true. Luck is a factor, but not as big a factor as some claim. In my main redraft league it is the group of guys fighting for the trophy each year. There are 4 teams that make the playoffs almost every year, 4 that make the playoffs about half the time and then 4 that hardly ever make the playoffs. The luck factor does get involved from year to year and this year one of the best owners will miss the playoffs. If luck was such a huge factor the same teams would not be twords the top of the league every year.
The more competitive your league, the more important luck becomes. If you are the only shark in your league, you can easily leverage your skill into success.It depends on your competition.

 
I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.
:lmao: Luck is a factor, just like in Poker, but skill, knowledge and preparation are more important part.

Sure you can lose a first rounder through injury, but you should draft depth.

You should scout the waiver wire. A lot of people give up once they draft or go to the waiver wire only to get emergency help.

You should always be looking to improve your roster, always.

Saying it's luck is the lazy man's easy way out.
I think this is true. Luck is a factor, but not as big a factor as some claim. In my main redraft league it is the group of guys fighting for the trophy each year. There are 4 teams that make the playoffs almost every year, 4 that make the playoffs about half the time and then 4 that hardly ever make the playoffs. The luck factor does get involved from year to year and this year one of the best owners will miss the playoffs. If luck was such a huge factor the same teams would not be twords the top of the league every year.
The more competitive your league, the more important luck becomes. If you are the only shark in your league, you can easily leverage your skill into success.It depends on your competition.
I agree. If skill level is equal then luck does become a bigger factor.
 
I don't pay for any FF info. If I have enough time to read/board about it, I don't need to pay for it. Then there are free postings like the email about Peyton Manning and his chances of missing games at the beginning of the season (pretty sure it was sourced from this site) which to me was a great example of pointless overthinking.

From what I can tell, this site is doing a good job - trying to provide the most VALUE possible. It is more the investment of time on my part (obv. I spend more than $30 or whatever on beer in a week) that makes it not very valuable to me. But I do like the (free!) podcasts a lot.

This messageboard has a pretty high signal-to-noise ratio. I enjoy reading some threads here, though again I'm not a stat-head and don't draw many conclusions from those discussions. Still "interesting." I posted on "Fantasysharks" before and that board is appalling.

 
This is my second season using the site. Paid for it last year and won a free year throught the contest next year. I will be paying for it unless I win some free years again.

It took me most of last year to figure out what content I wanted to use in managing my team. This year I have felt much better about managing my 3 teams with the info I use.

1. Draft Dominator: used this for the first time at my main draft and amazing how much value I got during the draft. 9-3 and scored more than 200pts than the second highest scoring team.

2.VBD program. I used this in my other two drafts as they take place at a bar and dont want my computer with me. Able to have solid cheatsheets based on the league scoring once again has put me on top. 1st place with a 70 pt lead and 5 high weeks so far this season.

3, Game recaps I read to see how players are doing for potential cuts and pickups. These write ups let me know what is happening in other games.

4. Targets are huge when I start looking at WR/TEs for moves. Doing a little research you can find out if a players is getting the same amount of looks or if he is trending one way or another.

5. Forums I use to see what people are thinking and to hear a couple of different voices on players or situations.

IMO you have to put your own lineup in and this site just gives you a lot of tools that can help you make your choice. Sometimes it will be a good choice while other times it will kill you. Even if my choice is wrong I am ok with it because I feel that there was time put into making my tough choices.

 
This is my first year in FF, so I can kind of make an unbiased opinion from sitting back and watching how it seems to work. The content of some of these FF sites is definitely fun to read, but seriously, if you can't pay enough attention to the games and players and what's happening enough to make educated decisions on your own, you probably should take up a different activity. Every week you hear 'oh please help me, please help me'....good freakin' grief. Have a little pride. Not saying I never ran a scenario by someone, but it seems like many of these people don't have the slightest clue without help. What's the fun in having someone else make every decision?

 
i voted hurt slightly on the paid stuff, mainly because of the rankings/projections. its not easy and like others have said, they are just educated guesses. still, when you see a DB projected for 9 solo tackles and he gets 1, it makes you wonder ... these guys are looking at things much more deeply than i would for 1 week at a time. so i expect them to know more.

the board here is great, because you get a lot more insight into specific teams. we get reports almost daly through training camp on teams like the broncos, etc. great info.

all in all, its worth the money.

 
FBGuys and the Shark Pool have helped my team tremendously. Unfortunately neither are secrets any more. I think pretty much everyone in my league now uses FBGuys. It has made it much harder to find sleepers and make trades. Especially when everyone is looking at the same rankings and same posts about sleepers.

Now I am looking for the next best thing....FBGuys does seem to lack information about up coming free agents, upcoming rookies, salary cap cuts and considerations. I have found some other sites that are great with that information. I am not sharing.....

 
FBG helped me.

Playoffs expected in 3 of 3 redrafts, 1 of 1 keeper, and top 2 in NFFC entry contest.

1st year taking over two teams in dynasty and dead last in both. Time will tell.

I like the teams I put up in the best ball SLs vs. FBG posters & staff.

Dominators are good to organizers and to see how far out your thoughts are.

Rankings with hover explanations are awesome.

Podcasts and personal access to particapate useful.

Shark Pool is a fun place to interact and get information & opinions.

It would be interesting to see how poster view themselves relative to the information they provide and how other view them...

 
I don't pay for any FF info. If I have enough time to read/board about it, I don't need to pay for it. Then there are free postings like the email about Peyton Manning and his chances of missing games at the beginning of the season (pretty sure it was sourced from this site) which to me was a great example of pointless overthinking.

From what I can tell, this site is doing a good job - trying to provide the most VALUE possible. It is more the investment of time on my part (obv. I spend more than $30 or whatever on beer in a week) that makes it not very valuable to me. But I do like the (free!) podcasts a lot.

This messageboard has a pretty high signal-to-noise ratio. I enjoy reading some threads here, though again I'm not a stat-head and don't draw many conclusions from those discussions. Still "interesting." I posted on "Fantasysharks" before and that board is appalling.
You've got a lot of free time... drink a lot of beer... and use the term signal to noise ratio.You must be a musician of some sort.

BTW, I'm saving my vote for this until after the season.

 
I've been a paying member for 3 years now and if I look at the "premium content" more than 5 times per year I'd be shocked. I do it to support the site and really nothing else.

The message board is where all the value is. Not so much the discussions, but the one-stop-shop for all breaking news, in-game injury info, etc. :goodposting:

 
I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.
:bs: Luck is a factor, just like in Poker, but skill, knowledge and preparation are more important part.

Sure you can lose a first rounder through injury, but you should draft depth.

You should scout the waiver wire. A lot of people give up once they draft or go to the waiver wire only to get emergency help.

You should always be looking to improve your roster, always.

Saying it's luck is the lazy man's easy way out.
Not to hijack, but preparedness is NOT skill. FF is mostly preparedness and luck. Very little authentic skill. When the same guys dominate a league every year, they're the ones who are more prepared and stay on top of things. Poker, on the other hand, is a great deal of skill with knowledge and luck thrown in. I am a lazy man, but I'm not taking the easy way out here. I'm pleased with my success at the game, but I don't pretend it's something more than it is. I enjoy it, so I tend to be more prepared than some people, but less than others. Terrible at poker, though.

On point, FBG helps a lot with preparedness. Combine that with luck (or the absence of bad luck) and you'll go far. The forum alone is a great resource because I don't know of a better place to get last-minute information. If someone hears something on a local station...it's here. If someone reports something credible, it's here. And if you have any Patriots, Yudkin is here.

 
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I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.
:thumbup: Luck is a factor, just like in Poker, but skill, knowledge and preparation are more important part.

Sure you can lose a first rounder through injury, but you should draft depth.

You should scout the waiver wire. A lot of people give up once they draft or go to the waiver wire only to get emergency help.

You should always be looking to improve your roster, always.

Saying it's luck is the lazy man's easy way out.
Not to hijack, but preparedness is NOT skill. FF is mostly preparedness and luck. Very little authentic skill. When the same guys dominate a league every year, they're the ones who are more prepared and stay on top of things. Poker, on the other hand, is a great deal of skill with knowledge and luck thrown in. I am a lazy man, but I'm not taking the easy way out here. I'm pleased with my success at the game, but I don't pretend it's something more than it is. I enjoy it, so I tend to be more prepared than some people, but less than others. Terrible at poker, though.

On point, FBG helps a lot with preparedness. Combine that with luck (or the absence of bad luck) and you'll go far. The forum alone is a great resource because I don't know of a better place to get last-minute information. If someone hears something on a local station...it's here. If someone reports something credible, it's here. And if you have any Patriots, Yudkin is here.
This is where I disagree a bit. I understand your point, but I also think that certain people have a knack for watching what's going on on the football field and knowing which guys have real talent, which situations are going to lend themselves to fantasy boom or bust, which WW gems are flashes in the pan and which are real gold, and which rookies and even college players are going to succeed.Obviously no one is going to be right all the time, but some are going to be right far more than others. Those that are able to watch the games and know which guys to go after and which guys to avoid have a "skill" that the majority don't have. The majority uses box scores to do that stuff.

Then, particularly in dynasty leagues, couple in the art of trading and knowing when to get value and how to run your team and there are DEFINITELY more skilled FFers than others. You can be as prepared as you want to be, but if you don't know how to fix a broken team or when to sell on a guy, then you're going to be behind the curve. This is what sets apart good owners from bad owners even if all of them are prepared.

 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.
:lmao: Luck is a factor, just like in Poker, but skill, knowledge and preparation are more important part.

Sure you can lose a first rounder through injury, but you should draft depth.

You should scout the waiver wire. A lot of people give up once they draft or go to the waiver wire only to get emergency help.

You should always be looking to improve your roster, always.

Saying it's luck is the lazy man's easy way out.
Not to hijack, but preparedness is NOT skill. FF is mostly preparedness and luck. Very little authentic skill. When the same guys dominate a league every year, they're the ones who are more prepared and stay on top of things. Poker, on the other hand, is a great deal of skill with knowledge and luck thrown in. I am a lazy man, but I'm not taking the easy way out here. I'm pleased with my success at the game, but I don't pretend it's something more than it is. I enjoy it, so I tend to be more prepared than some people, but less than others. Terrible at poker, though.

On point, FBG helps a lot with preparedness. Combine that with luck (or the absence of bad luck) and you'll go far. The forum alone is a great resource because I don't know of a better place to get last-minute information. If someone hears something on a local station...it's here. If someone reports something credible, it's here. And if you have any Patriots, Yudkin is here.
VERY :thumbup:
 
As far as the Shark pool goes, its nice to hear different opinions out there but only if they make you think and reconsider your own opinions,not take everything as gospel. The problem is that too many people in the Shark pool consider themselves Sharks.
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I pay for 3 things on this website.

1) Draft Dominator

2) Lineup Dominator

3) $35K contest

Fantasy football is luck. I play for fun and try to enjoy it. Sometimes FBG hits a player on the head, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I hit a player on the head, sometimes I don't.

I don't pay for their information and then follow it blindly. I make my own choices and live and die with them.
:rolleyes: Luck is a factor, just like in Poker, but skill, knowledge and preparation are more important part.

Sure you can lose a first rounder through injury, but you should draft depth.

You should scout the waiver wire. A lot of people give up once they draft or go to the waiver wire only to get emergency help.

You should always be looking to improve your roster, always.

Saying it's luck is the lazy man's easy way out.
Saying it's skill is the intellectually dishonest way out.
So you're thinking there's not skill involved?
No. I think anyone who discounts luck in fantasy football is lying to themselves.
Luck plays a significant factor in any individual H2H matchup. It plays a lesser factor over the course of a season. Owners that are more prepared for the draft and more informed during the season are frequently ( not always, but frequently ) the ones that make annual appearances in the playoffs, and often go deep. If it was mostly luck, the distribution of owners success would be pretty evenly spread over several years of play. What I've seen usually happen is the same 4 or 5 teams are nearly always in the playoffs, and 1 or 2 of the rest rotate in when they hit it good. Luck has its role, but skill/preparation has as big a role over the long haul.

 

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