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Do you think the Lions have their pick signed before the draft? (1 Viewer)
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Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
No, but even if they did they would still take the full 10 minutes to announce the pick.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Absolutely. You'd have to be a moron to not have the player signed before the draft. It's really the only thing the 1st pick is good for anymore, IMO......
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I think they will. If they're smart, they've been negotiating in earnest and, like the Texans a few years ago, have a willingness to sign more than one player at the spot. If they've been exclusively talking to one player, well then I think it's a different beast and a deal might not get done.
Kleck
Footballguy
I think it depends on who the pick is.
If Stafford is the pick, I'd assume the contract will top 6yr/$80M with $40M guaranteed. IMO, it will be harder to get Stafford signed than it will J Smith and Curry, with Curry being the easiest.
Stafford will want more than Ryan who got 6yr/$72M w/ $34.75M guaranteed.
J Smith will want more than Jake Long who got 5yr/$57.75M w/ $30M guaranteed.
If Stafford is the pick, I'd assume the contract will top 6yr/$80M with $40M guaranteed. IMO, it will be harder to get Stafford signed than it will J Smith and Curry, with Curry being the easiest.
Stafford will want more than Ryan who got 6yr/$72M w/ $34.75M guaranteed.
J Smith will want more than Jake Long who got 5yr/$57.75M w/ $30M guaranteed.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
I'd rather the following teams be able to negotiate as well. Let's say the Lions sign Jason Smith today. The Rams sign Monroe tomorrow, the Chiefs sign Curry on Friday, Seattle trades out of #4 on Saturday morning... it can make this a whole week of excitement.
Al Czervik
Footballguy
From Martin Mayhew's Press Conference this week:
Sounds like, if they get someone signed, we still might not know until they're on the clock.
JAA
Footballguy
what could the advantage be on not iding the pick?
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I thought so, but time is fleeting away here.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
i think they sign curry at a bargain rate for a #1 pick
Buckeyedawgs
Footballguy
I voted yes because the best player and cheapest of the top picks is Curry and I think he will be a Lion within the next 48 hours. For me taking a 12 year old boy with cancer to draft with him was the final straw! (Deserving of first pick alone!)
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
no agent in their right mind would let the kid take a deal less than what the #1 got last year
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I heard that. My first thought was, I wonder if his agent would agree. It opens the door for negative recruiting by agents next year. "Hey, don't sign with THAT guy... his client last year went #1 overall and he allowed him to take less money than the #1 pick got the year before!"
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Kleck
Footballguy
Position has to play a factor. Ryan was the 3rd pick and got a better deal than the #1.
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Tanner9919
Footballguy
he was on Rome is Burning talking about contract talks between his agent and the Lions front office...I kind of got the feeling he's going to be the #1 pick...he looked like he was smirking when asked about any potential deal,as if he already knew he was going to Detroit.
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Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
Yeah, but at the end of the day the agent has to do what their client tells them to do. If Curry wants to go first overall bad enough and is willing to take less money, that's his call... Take a look at the guaranteed money that last year's top 10 got:#01. Jake Long OT - $30m#02. Chris Long DE - $29m#03. Matt Ryan QB - $34m#04. Darren McFadden RB - $26m#05. Glenn Dorsey DT - $23m#06. Vernon Gholston DE - $21m#07. Sedrick Ellis DT - $19.5M#08. Derrick Harvey DE - $17.177m#09. Keith Rivers LB - $15.6m#10. Jerod Mayo LB - 13.8mMatt Ryan's guaranteed money was high due to him being a QB, you can see a sharp decline from him to DMac and then progressively down the list. So if Curry is getting nervous about slipping past KC at #3, he could be thinking the guaranteed money on his contract could end up in the low 20's easily. Especially considering his position, LB... If he can get $28-$29 million guaranteed by signing a slightly smaller contract than Jake Long's and going #1, then he could very well end up making millions more than if he ended up being drafted anywhere between #4 and #10.Again, considering he's a linebacker and doesn't play an overly desirable position for an #1 overall draftpick - I think it's a very shrewd and smart stance by Curry to make himself as enticing as possible to the Lions.Edit to add: Also, I remember reading a report somewhere - maybe in another thread - about Stafford telling his friends that he's going #1 and getting $40m guaranteed. Not sure of the legitimacy of that, but considering Ryan got $34m at #3 it doesn't seem too far fetched... Anyway, from the Lions point of view, if Curry is willing to sign for less than Jake Long that could potentially be as much as $12m difference. I'd have to think they'd consider that heavily in their final decision.
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Oakland Press is reporting the Stafford deal is close.
(Oakland the Detroit suburb county, not the Raider's one.)
http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/20...06395407301.txt
(Oakland the Detroit suburb county, not the Raider's one.)
http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/20...06395407301.txt
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I'm drooling over the dynasty prospects of that Georgia/Georgia Tech connection once the kid knows what he's doing with that laser arm.
JAA
Footballguy
Need to figure in contract by years. Jake Long's contract is for 1 less year than Ryans, so he will hit the FA market before Ryan and should garner more money over the same number of yearsYeah, but at the end of the day the agent has to do what their client tells them to do. If Curry wants to go first overall bad enough and is willing to take less money, that's his call... Take a look at the guaranteed money that last year's top 10 got:#01. Jake Long OT - $30m#02. Chris Long DE - $29m#03. Matt Ryan QB - $34m#04. Darren McFadden RB - $26m#05. Glenn Dorsey DT - $23m#06. Vernon Gholston DE - $21m#07. Sedrick Ellis DT - $19.5M#08. Derrick Harvey DE - $17.177m#09. Keith Rivers LB - $15.6m#10. Jerod Mayo LB - 13.8mMatt Ryan's guaranteed money was high due to him being a QB, you can see a sharp decline from him to DMac and then progressively down the list. So if Curry is getting nervous about slipping past KC at #3, he could be thinking the guaranteed money on his contract could end up in the low 20's easily. Especially considering his position, LB... If he can get $28-$29 million guaranteed by signing a slightly smaller contract than Jake Long's and going #1, then he could very well end up making millions more than if he ended up being drafted anywhere between #4 and #10.Again, considering he's a linebacker and doesn't play an overly desirable position for an #1 overall draftpick - I think it's a very shrewd and smart stance by Curry to make himself as enticing as possible to the Lions.Edit to add: Also, I remember reading a report somewhere - maybe in another thread - about Stafford telling his friends that he's going #1 and getting $40m guaranteed. Not sure of the legitimacy of that, but considering Ryan got $34m at #3 it doesn't seem too far fetched... Anyway, from the Lions point of view, if Curry is willing to sign for less than Jake Long that could potentially be as much as $12m difference. I'd have to think they'd consider that heavily in their final decision.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
yes
bcr8f
Footballguy
That's right.
Al Czervik
Footballguy
Source: Lions have Aaron Curry in fold if Matthew Stafford doesn't sign soon
by Tom Kowalski
Wednesday April 22, 2009, 5:19 PM
According to a league source, the Detroit Lions have completed contract terms with Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and the team is now waiting to see if it can reach an agreement with their No. 1 target, Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford. The source said the Lions will not allow a decision to go beyond Friday and if a deal isn't done with Stafford by then, the team will sign Curry and take him with the first overall draft pick.
The source said he believes that Stafford's agent, Tom Condon, will eventually agree to a deal with the Lions but probably won't do it until it gets closer to the Friday deadline.
The price of the contract can only go up in the final hours so Condon will likely push the issue as far as he feels he has something to gain.
The Lions, according to the source, aren't budging and are just waiting to see if Stafford accepts their deal before they move to Curry. The Lions have been adamant that they want to get their draft pick signed before the draft starts at 4 p.m. on Saturday.
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by Tom Kowalski
Wednesday April 22, 2009, 5:19 PM
According to a league source, the Detroit Lions have completed contract terms with Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry and the team is now waiting to see if it can reach an agreement with their No. 1 target, Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford. The source said the Lions will not allow a decision to go beyond Friday and if a deal isn't done with Stafford by then, the team will sign Curry and take him with the first overall draft pick.
The source said he believes that Stafford's agent, Tom Condon, will eventually agree to a deal with the Lions but probably won't do it until it gets closer to the Friday deadline.
The price of the contract can only go up in the final hours so Condon will likely push the issue as far as he feels he has something to gain.
The Lions, according to the source, aren't budging and are just waiting to see if Stafford accepts their deal before they move to Curry. The Lions have been adamant that they want to get their draft pick signed before the draft starts at 4 p.m. on Saturday.
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gocuse3
Footballguy
just read this as well was coming to post...this makes things interesting even though it still seems they want stafford
Andy Herron
Footballguy
Yes
Yellow Line is Unoffcial
Footballguy
Curry deal is in place. So the answer is yes. The only question is with who. Stafford or Curry?
FUBAR
Footballguy
If they did would they even bother trying to get Stafford to sign - unless it was for less?Or maybe because he's a QB he's worth more, although "rated" the same?
who cares, just sign already. 
Holland Freeze
Footballguy
If they do can the #2 team begin negotiating?
