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Do you usually lean RB or WR high? (1 Viewer)

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I've heard very mixed responses to date. This particular year the WRs are quite clearly dominating early, with Lamb/Hill/Chase/ASB/JJ typically being top ~6 selections. In a vacuum however, do you usually prefer going RB or WR high? How have your drafts this year gone and were you happy with the results?

I typically always prefer going RB as I think it's easier finding decent production out of a WR2/3 than a RB2. However I am finding myself thinking the opposite this season and going WR with my 1st and maybe even 2nd pick.
 
I've heard very mixed responses to date. This particular year the WRs are quite clearly dominating early, with Lamb/Hill/Chase/ASB/JJ typically being top ~6 selections. In a vacuum however, do you usually prefer going RB or WR high? How have your drafts this year gone and were you happy with the results?

I typically always prefer going RB as I think it's easier finding decent production out of a WR2/3 than a RB2. However I am finding myself thinking the opposite this season and going WR with my 1st and maybe even 2nd pick.
In general, I'm very happy with results either way. Have some great McCaffrey/Breece/Bijan teams. Also feel great about JJ, Ceedee, Tyreek, ASRB, Chase teams. Comfortable taking what the draft gives me and stack when I can without reaching. You should try a zero RB build at least one time just to see how well you can make it up at RB. Just don't force it if you have the 3rd pick and CMC drops in your lap. Snap up someone who falls in your lap over being rigid about a specific plan.
 
Originally was thinking go WR with CD or T. Hill, but now finding it hard to resist getting one of CMC, B. Hall, or Bijan.

Think there are a lot of starting WR options in rounds 3-6.
 
Originally was thinking go WR with CD or T. Hill, but now finding it hard to resist getting one of CMC, B. Hall, or Bijan.

Think there are a lot of starting WR options in rounds 3-6.
Yes, but as with all things in life, drafts can veer unpredictably and draft position matters. You might go WR-RB-RB from the 3-spot, and see 14/18 a run on WR from 3.04 to 4.08. Options can dry up or get sniped. It also drives me nuts when I go WR-RB, and a RB i have as a similar tier slips to me in the 3rd, because I passed up an elite or elite adjecent WR in the 2nd.

I've been mocking from every position, and have been trying various builds from the 10-11-12 positions in 3RR and standard snake. In 3RR my strongest teams have been WR-WR-WR, but I've had success with AJB-Barkley starts.

When drafting near the top of the order, WR-WR has been my preference. Once I have those 2 top WR locked in, I feel a lot more comfortable. There are a lot of RB options later - maybe not elite ones, but the position feels riskier. Two of the top RB options are 27, with heavy mileage.

In the middle of the round, I just try to be loose. There more than ever I'm willing to let the draft come to me. Just never know what value will slide at what position, so I'm open to whatver. WR-RB-WR seems to be my most commonly successful mock.

Now that said, these are just mocks. Weird stuff happens more in real drafts. People reach for players, or you'll see runs happen as someone triggers it & a few jump on early. So it's difficult to really say what's best for drafting. I know I try to build my dynasty teams more around the receivers, so I tend to approach redraft similarly. I know I can probably still win if I start with 3 WR, a TE, and taking only 1 decent back in round 2-3-4-5, then stacking up on the Warren/Chuba/Chase Brown types later. And QB is so deep this year, I may way until round 8-10 in 1 QB leagues and just take 2 of them back to back.

So yeah - long answer to a short question, but this is kind of the old school vs new school question of the ages. No easy answer, and for every FF manager there's probably a highly different approach. I know I've seen a few videos talking about the return of boomer ball, taking RB-RB or even RB-RB-RB to start, but IMO that's FF suicide unless ya get really lucky. If I'm looking at CeeDee or Hill at pick 1.02 or 1.03 (or 4-5-6) I'm smashing "draft" & worrying about my RB later.
 
WR high this year because guys like Jacobs and Mixon are falling to the late fourth, Monty in the 5th, Zamir in the 6th, Stevenson in the 7th, Warren/Harris in the 8th. Some of these guys will hit and teams that started WR/WR that hit on one will be powerhouses. After you get past the early 5th when Flowers and Pickens go it's bleak finding a WR that will lead their team in volume.

Heck, I just got Charbonnett in the 11th and he's projected by Henry within 1 ppg of the guys being drafted as mid tier RB2s.
 
A dilemma thats possible is when you are drafting last in a 14 teamer and Taylor/Barkley are there and you are having to sort through the WRs that are left
 
WR high this year because guys like Jacobs and Mixon are falling to the late fourth, Monty in the 5th, Zamir in the 6th, Stevenson in the 7th, Warren/Harris in the 8th. Some of these guys will hit and teams that started WR/WR that hit on one will be powerhouses. After you get past the early 5th when Flowers and Pickens go it's bleak finding a WR that will lead their team in volume.

Heck, I just got Charbonnett in the 11th and he's projected by Henry within 1 ppg of the guys being drafted as mid tier RB2s.
Bingo.
 
WR high this year because guys like Jacobs and Mixon are falling to the late fourth, Monty in the 5th, Zamir in the 6th, Stevenson in the 7th, Warren/Harris in the 8th. Some of these guys will hit and teams that started WR/WR that hit on one will be powerhouses. After you get past the early 5th when Flowers and Pickens go it's bleak finding a WR that will lead their team in volume.

Heck, I just got Charbonnett in the 11th and he's projected by Henry within 1 ppg of the guys being drafted as mid tier RB2s.
Love the breakdown! I'll make note of these and try to target those guys in said rounds.
 
WR high this year because guys like Jacobs and Mixon are falling to the late fourth, Monty in the 5th, Zamir in the 6th, Stevenson in the 7th, Warren/Harris in the 8th. Some of these guys will hit and teams that started WR/WR that hit on one will be powerhouses. After you get past the early 5th when Flowers and Pickens go it's bleak finding a WR that will lead their team in volume.

Heck, I just got Charbonnett in the 11th and he's projected by Henry within 1 ppg of the guys being drafted as mid tier RB2s.
Love the breakdown! I'll make note of these and try to target those guys in said rounds.
The drafts I'm in are ppr 1/2/1/2 flex. What I'm seeing is that RB/WR are drafted pretty closely to their expected raw points meaning I see no premium at either position. So obviously where players go will vary by league. My main point is that there are RBs slated to get most of the touches and/or projected pretty high by FBG staff that are being drafted later than one might expect.
 
Originally was thinking go WR with CD or T. Hill, but now finding it hard to resist getting one of CMC, B. Hall, or Bijan.

Think there are a lot of starting WR options in rounds 3-6.

So yeah - long answer to a short question, but this is kind of the old school vs new school question of the ages. No easy answer, and for every FF manager there's probably a highly different approach. I know I've seen a few videos talking about the return of boomer ball, taking RB-RB or even RB-RB-RB to start, but IMO that's FF suicide unless ya get really lucky. If I'm looking at CeeDee or Hill at pick 1.02 or 1.03 (or 4-5-6) I'm smashing "draft" & worrying about my RB later.

Going against the grain here so far in mocks and find myself going RB-RB...for three reasons:1) The WRs that I think are overvalued in round two, 2) The depth of WRs available in rounds 3-5,, and 3) Default rankings for some of the WRs that I think should be higher.

On my first point, I just feel like all the round 2 WRs feel overvalued or just don't warrant being drafted that high. London? Hasn't done it before so you're taking a leap. Pittman with Richardson? Don't trust that combo and enough volume. Harrison? Would rather draft him where Nabers is falling. D. Adams? Crappy offense he'll be volatile. Olave? No thanks with Carr and that offense. I'm hoping that Puka falls late 2nd but it's not taking place in mocks.

As for the depth of WRs in rounds 3 - 5 and their default rankings I'm finding what seems like serious value:

* Round 3:

- N. Collins (default 27), lot of mouths to feed, but he's the X and this offense could be historic this year.
- J. Waddle (default 39), was smoking hot early last year. Default is too low to the point he could be grabbed in round 4.
- C. Kupp (default 41), if you believe he's back, he's a no brainer in round 3 (and maybe round 4 at this default). Puka dinged as well.
- DK Metcalf (default 32), a lot of promise with a new offense, moving him around, etc.
- M. Evans (default 28), if you think he has another year in him, go for it.

* Round 4:

- D. Samuel (46), at this default ranking, even if Aiyuk stays he's a value, if Aiyuk goes a slam dunk.
- M. Nabers (47), all reports indicating he's a monster and should get a ton of volume even with D. Jones at QB. Dabol will know what to do.
- D. Smith (37), a little boom or bust for me, he'll have his weeks.

* Round 5:

- T. Dell (55), take another shot at the HOU WRs. So much potential ceiling.
- A. Cooper (67), default is crazy low for this #1 WR. With Chubb out this offense tilts to throwing more.
- G. Pickens (57), may not be a value if Aiyuk signs with PIT.
- Z. Flowers (52), Should see year 2 improvement.

So if you go RB-RB in rounds 1 and 2, you could then pound WR in the next three and walk away with say Nico, Deebo, A. Cooper.

In addition, I find it difficult to turn down either B. Hall or Bijan. I think both of these guys are going to be monsters this year. And because of my hatred for round 2 WRs, I often find myself going for ceiling with Achane or J. Cook who should get all he can handle in Buffalo (and maybe some additional goal line opportunities).
 
WR high this year because guys like Jacobs and Mixon are falling to the late fourth, Monty in the 5th, Zamir in the 6th, Stevenson in the 7th, Warren/Harris in the 8th. Some of these guys will hit and teams that started WR/WR that hit on one will be powerhouses. After you get past the early 5th when Flowers and Pickens go it's bleak finding a WR that will lead their team in volume.

Heck, I just got Charbonnett in the 11th and he's projected by Henry within 1 ppg of the guys being drafted as mid tier RB2s.
Another reason I'm going RB early and pounding WRs in rounds 3-5. I hate these guys.

I would love to have Jacobs, but in mocks he never falls to me in round 4. Something about Mixon that I just don't feel right about. Etienne...metrics went south end of year don't think he can handle the volume. A. Jones? T. Chandler there and Jones always dinged. Kamara? No thanks he's running out of gas in a mediocre offense. R. Stevenson? NOO! Holy moly is the NE offense a complete trainwreck if you are watching their camp reports and their O-line.

I'd rather skip this entire layer, bang at WRs, then round 8 onward target the likes of Mostert, Ford, C. Brown, Chubba, Dowdle others after I have my top two RBs in the bank.
 
Originally was thinking go WR with CD or T. Hill, but now finding it hard to resist getting one of CMC, B. Hall, or Bijan.

Think there are a lot of starting WR options in rounds 3-6.

So yeah - long answer to a short question, but this is kind of the old school vs new school question of the ages. No easy answer, and for every FF manager there's probably a highly different approach. I know I've seen a few videos talking about the return of boomer ball, taking RB-RB or even RB-RB-RB to start, but IMO that's FF suicide unless ya get really lucky. If I'm looking at CeeDee or Hill at pick 1.02 or 1.03 (or 4-5-6) I'm smashing "draft" & worrying about my RB later.

Going against the grain here so far in mocks and find myself going RB-RB...for three reasons:1) The WRs that I think are overvalued in round two, 2) The depth of WRs available in rounds 3-5,, and 3) Default rankings for some of the WRs that I think should be higher.

On my first point, I just feel like all the round 2 WRs feel overvalued or just don't warrant being drafted that high. London? Hasn't done it before so you're taking a leap. Pittman with Richardson? Don't trust that combo and enough volume. Harrison? Would rather draft him where Nabers is falling. D. Adams? Crappy offense he'll be volatile. Olave? No thanks with Carr and that offense. I'm hoping that Puka falls late 2nd but it's not taking place in mocks.

As for the depth of WRs in rounds 3 - 5 and their default rankings I'm finding what seems like serious value:

* Round 3:

- N. Collins (default 27), lot of mouths to feed, but he's the X and this offense could be historic this year.
- J. Waddle (default 39), was smoking hot early last year. Default is too low to the point he could be grabbed in round 4.
- C. Kupp (default 41), if you believe he's back, he's a no brainer in round 3 (and maybe round 4 at this default). Puka dinged as well.
- DK Metcalf (default 32), a lot of promise with a new offense, moving him around, etc.
- M. Evans (default 28), if you think he has another year in him, go for it.

* Round 4:

- D. Samuel (46), at this default ranking, even if Aiyuk stays he's a value, if Aiyuk goes a slam dunk.
- M. Nabers (47), all reports indicating he's a monster and should get a ton of volume even with D. Jones at QB. Dabol will know what to do.
- D. Smith (37), a little boom or bust for me, he'll have his weeks.

* Round 5:

- T. Dell (55), take another shot at the HOU WRs. So much potential ceiling.
- A. Cooper (67), default is crazy low for this #1 WR. With Chubb out this offense tilts to throwing more.
- G. Pickens (57), may not be a value if Aiyuk signs with PIT.
- Z. Flowers (52), Should see year 2 improvement.

So if you go RB-RB in rounds 1 and 2, you could then pound WR in the next three and walk away with say Nico, Deebo, A. Cooper.

In addition, I find it difficult to turn down either B. Hall or Bijan. I think both of these guys are going to be monsters this year. And because of my hatred for round 2 WRs, I often find myself going for ceiling with Achane or J. Cook who should get all he can handle in Buffalo (and maybe some additional goal line opportunities).
I’m regularly seeing Deebo mid-3rd, and I’ve seen Nico creep into the late 2nd.

Cooper has the age thing, Pickens the QB thing, Flowers in a potentially low volume passing offense…

I think in the 1st & 2nd you’re paying for reliability at WR.

I’m not out on any of those guys - it’s just so hard to count on ADP while making a plan to go RB-RB. If ya miss the targeted WRs you could end up with 3x WR2s.

As for Pittman, I think he’s a great fit with ARich.
 
Originally was thinking go WR with CD or T. Hill, but now finding it hard to resist getting one of CMC, B. Hall, or Bijan.

Think there are a lot of starting WR options in rounds 3-6.

So yeah - long answer to a short question, but this is kind of the old school vs new school question of the ages. No easy answer, and for every FF manager there's probably a highly different approach. I know I've seen a few videos talking about the return of boomer ball, taking RB-RB or even RB-RB-RB to start, but IMO that's FF suicide unless ya get really lucky. If I'm looking at CeeDee or Hill at pick 1.02 or 1.03 (or 4-5-6) I'm smashing "draft" & worrying about my RB later.

Going against the grain here so far in mocks and find myself going RB-RB...for three reasons:1) The WRs that I think are overvalued in round two, 2) The depth of WRs available in rounds 3-5,, and 3) Default rankings for some of the WRs that I think should be higher.

On my first point, I just feel like all the round 2 WRs feel overvalued or just don't warrant being drafted that high. London? Hasn't done it before so you're taking a leap. Pittman with Richardson? Don't trust that combo and enough volume. Harrison? Would rather draft him where Nabers is falling. D. Adams? Crappy offense he'll be volatile. Olave? No thanks with Carr and that offense. I'm hoping that Puka falls late 2nd but it's not taking place in mocks.

As for the depth of WRs in rounds 3 - 5 and their default rankings I'm finding what seems like serious value:

* Round 3:

- N. Collins (default 27), lot of mouths to feed, but he's the X and this offense could be historic this year.
- J. Waddle (default 39), was smoking hot early last year. Default is too low to the point he could be grabbed in round 4.
- C. Kupp (default 41), if you believe he's back, he's a no brainer in round 3 (and maybe round 4 at this default). Puka dinged as well.
- DK Metcalf (default 32), a lot of promise with a new offense, moving him around, etc.
- M. Evans (default 28), if you think he has another year in him, go for it.

* Round 4:

- D. Samuel (46), at this default ranking, even if Aiyuk stays he's a value, if Aiyuk goes a slam dunk.
- M. Nabers (47), all reports indicating he's a monster and should get a ton of volume even with D. Jones at QB. Dabol will know what to do.
- D. Smith (37), a little boom or bust for me, he'll have his weeks.

* Round 5:

- T. Dell (55), take another shot at the HOU WRs. So much potential ceiling.
- A. Cooper (67), default is crazy low for this #1 WR. With Chubb out this offense tilts to throwing more.
- G. Pickens (57), may not be a value if Aiyuk signs with PIT.
- Z. Flowers (52), Should see year 2 improvement.

So if you go RB-RB in rounds 1 and 2, you could then pound WR in the next three and walk away with say Nico, Deebo, A. Cooper.

In addition, I find it difficult to turn down either B. Hall or Bijan. I think both of these guys are going to be monsters this year. And because of my hatred for round 2 WRs, I often find myself going for ceiling with Achane or J. Cook who should get all he can handle in Buffalo (and maybe some additional goal line opportunities).
I’m regularly seeing Deebo mid-3rd, and I’ve seen Nico creep into the late 2nd.

Cooper has the age thing, Pickens the QB thing, Flowers in a potentially low volume passing offense…

I think in the 1st & 2nd you’re paying for reliability at WR.

I’m not out on any of those guys - it’s just so hard to count on ADP while making a plan to go RB-RB. If ya miss the targeted WRs you could end up with 3x WR2s.

As for Pittman, I think he’s a great fit with ARich.
I agree with this - meaning it may be safer to go RB-WR-WR (assumes the first pick is high enough to get one of the top few RB's in rd 1...if not maybe WR-RB-WR or WR-WR-RB)...though I agree with the 2nd round WR sentiment in general.

I prefer to strategize around specific player targets first and forecasting who will make it to my next pick -- in order to plan/mock how to start the first 3-5 rounds -- second.
 
I plan to do both. Auction league.

I'll be shocked if I dont come away with something like Breece/Taylor and then Amon-Ra/Collins. Then fill out with cheap upside values of which there should be a TON this year.
 
In bestball the WRs have been steamed up to absurd levels in early rounds. I am grabbing RB value all over the place. Will be interesting to see if that holds in normal redrafts.
 
Wide Receivers are the rat race. Top 10 RB production will fall out of the WW by Week 6.

Jerome Ford was nobody until Nick Chubb shredded his knee. WR usually isn't like that where the next guy who inherits 10+ touches.


Overdrafting RB has never really worked out for me. There's a reason zero RB is so popular.
 
This year I think there are 4 RB's ahead of the pack- CMC, Bijan, Hall, and JT. I would prefer to come away with one of them, then pound WR for a few rounds then come back and get Kamara or A. Jones as my RB 2.
 
This year I think there are 4 RB's ahead of the pack- CMC, Bijan, Hall, and JT. I would prefer to come away with one of them, then pound WR for a few rounds then come back and get Kamara or A. Jones as my RB 2.
You’re at 12/12

Board is Barkley, MH2, AJB

Which 2 are you drafting?
 
This year I think there are 4 RB's ahead of the pack- CMC, Bijan, Hall, and JT. I would prefer to come away with one of them, then pound WR for a few rounds then come back and get Kamara or A. Jones as my RB 2.
You’re at 12/12

Board is Barkley, MH2, AJB

Which 2 are you drafting?
Barkley and AJB. I don't love two from the same team but I think the Eagles offense is going to be putting up points. I like MH2 but I'm weary of an "unproven" commodity.
 
Barkley and AJB. I don't love two from the same team but I think the Eagles offense is going to be putting up points. I like MH2 but I'm weary of an "unproven" commodity.
Not to get too far off topic, but that seemed like a very interesting mental exercise for the same reason.

I'm not sure how I play that. Might just go AJB/MH2 myself.
 
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Barkley and AJB. I don't love two from the same team but I think the Eagles offense is going to be putting up points. I like MH2 but I'm weary of an "unproven" commodity.
Not to get too far off topic, but that seemed like a very interesting mental exercise for the same reason.

I'm not sure how I play that. Might just got AJB/MH2 myself.
Yeah it's a good question. I could see myself doing any combination depending on the day/amount of alcoholic beverages I've consumed pre-draft lol
 
Just did a mock from #3 in a 12 team PPR. Went with CD Lamb first and liked how it turned out:

* QB: K. Murray (rd 6)
* RB: J. Cook (2), J. Conner (5) (N. Harris, D. Singletary, C. Brown, C. Hubbard, J. Mason)
* WR: CD Lamb (1), N. Collins (3), C. Kupp (4) (J. Palmer)
* TE: NJoku
* D: Cinci (NE week 1)

The key to liking this mock is getting Conner in round 5. Usually this doesn't happen however. What I've seen too often is that come round 4-5 I don't see any RBs worth drafting.
 
I have JT and Achane as keepers, but I am going to find it extremely difficult passing on Bijan if he is there. Then slam WR/TE hard leading up to a QB semi-late.
 
Recently drafted from the #4 slot. Drafted Lamb and then ETN in second. After that had to go three straight WR because RBs were being drafted at least one round ahead of their ADP. Was hoping to have 2 RB by the end of 5th round . Finally got Swift in the 7th as my RB 2.
 
I’ve been holding out as an RB high guy in redraft for the last few years really it depends on value. I’ve only participated in two redrafts this year and ended up with Bijan in one, Barkley the other, both were late 1sts.

In my mocks the only time I liked the results with WR early was when I got an RB in the 2nd.
 
I’ve been holding out as an RB high guy in redraft for the last few years really it depends on value. I’ve only participated in two redrafts this year and ended up with Bijan in one, Barkley the other, both were late 1sts.

In my mocks the only time I liked the results with WR early was when I got an RB in the 2nd.
I think the real question is about the follow-up.

Are you a boomer back guy, or a “hero” RB guy?

I love my hero back builds. Saquan or Taylor at the end of the 1st, then hammer WR.

I’ve tried Boomer back builds and have been disappointed.
 
Recently drafted from the #4 slot. Drafted Lamb and then ETN in second. After that had to go three straight WR because RBs were being drafted at least one round ahead of their ADP. Was hoping to have 2 RB by the end of 5th round . Finally got Swift in the 7th as my RB 2.
Exactly what I want to avoid. Just think that Swift will have issues with Kerbert and R. Johnson. There's a reason why he's bounced around.
 
I’ve been holding out as an RB high guy in redraft for the last few years really it depends on value. I’ve only participated in two redrafts this year and ended up with Bijan in one, Barkley the other, both were late 1sts.

In my mocks the only time I liked the results with WR early was when I got an RB in the 2nd.
I think the real question is about the follow-up.

Are you a boomer back guy, or a “hero” RB guy?

I love my hero back builds. Saquan or Taylor at the end of the 1st, then hammer WR.

I’ve tried Boomer back builds and have been disappointed.
I think one of the biases I have is that my best championship teams are always loaded at RB.

I'm a firm believer in playing the matchups at RB. Once you get into the season, matchups tend to drive performance as much as the player. I think this is unique to the position.

And I feel like WRs are different. The good ones tend to "start themselves." In addition, even if a matchup may indicate that X receiver is facing a lockdown corner Y, the offensive coordinator tends to scheme that WR out of harm's way, put them in the slot, etc.
 
I’ve been holding out as an RB high guy in redraft for the last few years really it depends on value. I’ve only participated in two redrafts this year and ended up with Bijan in one, Barkley the other, both were late 1sts.

In my mocks the only time I liked the results with WR early was when I got an RB in the 2nd.
I think the real question is about the follow-up.

Are you a boomer back guy, or a “hero” RB guy?

I love my hero back builds. Saquan or Taylor at the end of the 1st, then hammer WR.

I’ve tried Boomer back builds and have been disappointed.
Lean towards hero, partly because startable RBs can be found on waivers in many leagues. But really I tend to go where I think the value leads.
 
I’ve been holding out as an RB high guy in redraft for the last few years really it depends on value. I’ve only participated in two redrafts this year and ended up with Bijan in one, Barkley the other, both were late 1sts.

In my mocks the only time I liked the results with WR early was when I got an RB in the 2nd.
I think the real question is about the follow-up.

Are you a boomer back guy, or a “hero” RB guy?

I love my hero back builds. Saquan or Taylor at the end of the 1st, then hammer WR.

I’ve tried Boomer back builds and have been disappointed.
Lean towards hero, partly because startable RBs can be found on waivers in many leagues. But really I tend to go where I think the value leads.
Same.

Plus I see a massive tier break between the elite RB & “the field”

I don’t see much difference between the lower tier RB.
 
Maybe it's just me but I much prefer the WRs in the 3rd onwards than the RBs. It's truly pushing me to have my BB looking like 3 RBs in the top 5:

1. CMC
2. Hall
3. Lamb
4. Hill
5. Bijan

Am I stupid?
 

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