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Just curious if anybody followed Dodds suggestion & drafted Garrard as a QB#1 this year really late in the draft. I didn't in my 1st draft but got him as my backup. Have another draft this year & doubt I have the balls to go with him as my 1st QB drafted..

funny he ranks Garrard very low in his early rankings for week 1.. yet is really talking him up. Is the Indy defense a lot better than I thought...

Wondering if anybody did & liked the results of their team..

 
Just curious if anybody followed Dodds suggestion & drafted Garrard as a QB#1 this year really late in the draft. I didn't in my 1st draft but got him as my backup. Have another draft this year & doubt I have the balls to go with him as my 1st QB drafted..funny he ranks Garrard very low in his early rankings for week 1.. yet is really talking him up. Is the Indy defense a lot better than I thought...Wondering if anybody did & liked the results of their team..
Indy last year had a bad run defense that was also on the field a lot. That lowered both Manning's and the opposing QB's fantasy numbers. I don't know if the new Colts D coordinator will blitz more or not - or if the Colts D can get off the field on 3rd downs. If they can, it will raise both Manning's and Colts opponent's QB numbers simply by having more possessions per game.
 
Just curious if anybody followed Dodds suggestion & drafted Garrard as a QB#1 this year really late in the draft. I didn't in my 1st draft but got him as my backup. Have another draft this year & doubt I have the balls to go with him as my 1st QB drafted..funny he ranks Garrard very low in his early rankings for week 1.. yet is really talking him up. Is the Indy defense a lot better than I thought...Wondering if anybody did & liked the results of their team..
Indy D has been very strong against the pass in recent years. Though with the new coaching staff, who knows.
 
Got Garrard as a backup to Rodgers... Had Dodd's advice in mind when I did it.. If he turns out to be a solid QB1, it can't hurt to have him in the wings.. If he's a QB2, then he's still a good backup

 
Just curious if anybody followed Dodds suggestion & drafted Garrard as a QB#1 this year really late in the draft. I didn't in my 1st draft but got him as my backup. Have another draft this year & doubt I have the balls to go with him as my 1st QB drafted..funny he ranks Garrard very low in his early rankings for week 1.. yet is really talking him up. Is the Indy defense a lot better than I thought...Wondering if anybody did & liked the results of their team..
I took Garrard at 12.04 in a 10-team as a backup to McNabb. I wasn't sure about his as a #1. Even if I grabbed a #2 QB right after Garrard, I would not have been very comfortable with what was left at that point as a #2.
 
Got Garrard as a backup to Rodgers... Had Dodd's advice in mind when I did it.. If he turns out to be a solid QB1, it can't hurt to have him in the wings.. If he's a QB2, then he's still a good backup
same for me. Got Garrard as a back-up to Brady. Got him at 14.08.
 
I nabbed Garrard as my No. 1 with Trent Edwards as his backup in one of my money leagues. Bad draft overall.

 
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I drafted #3 in a 12 team PPR. and after many mock drafts I decided that I always had better teams going RB, WR WR. that said I was a good candidate to use Dodds stratagy. and this is the team I got.

Garrard, David JAC QB

Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB (wanted matt schwab, but was taken 2 picks ahead of me.)

Turner, Michael ATL RB

McFadden, Darren OAK RB

Thomas, Pierre NOS RB

Brown, Donald IND RB

Faulk, Kevin NEP RB

Johnson, Calvin DET WR

White, Roddy ATL WR

Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR

Avery, Donnie STL WR

Jenkins, Michael ATL WR

Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR

Witten, Jason DAL TE

Kaeding, Nate SDC PK

Cowboys, Dallas DAL Def

 
I drafted #3 in a 12 team PPR. and after many mock drafts I decided that I always had better teams going RB, WR WR. that said I was a good candidate to use Dodds stratagy. and this is the team I got.Garrard, David JAC QB Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB (wanted matt schwab, but was taken 2 picks ahead of me.)Turner, Michael ATL RB McFadden, Darren OAK RBThomas, Pierre NOS RBBrown, Donald IND RBFaulk, Kevin NEP RBJohnson, Calvin DET WRWhite, Roddy ATL WRCotchery, Jerricho NYJ WRAvery, Donnie STL WRJenkins, Michael ATL WRNicks, Hakeem NYG WRWitten, Jason DAL TEKaeding, Nate SDC PKCowboys, Dallas DAL Def
Was this a keeper league at all? If not, I would say this strategy worked for you. Nice team..
 
I picked him up but am still not convinced that he'll be any good. Yes, I know all the stats, yes I know they improved their line, they added Holt and some wideouts but I just can't get over the offense and the Del Rio effect. I just can never see them going out there and throwing for 300 yards and 3 tds. If Del Rio is up by 10 at the half he's perfectly happy to hand it off on a 3rd and 10 in the 3rd quarter and play the field position game as opposed to trying to risk anything on any 3rd down and distance. He loves nothing more than the take the air out of the ball and I just forsee a lot 220-1-0 and 3-33-0 stat lines. The only time he'll probably really put up good games is when he runs in a TD but good luck predicting that.

I think he'll be a fine backup and occassional spot start but after thinking long and hard about it there's absolutely no way I could risk my season on him being my starter.

 
I drafted #3 in a 12 team PPR. and after many mock drafts I decided that I always had better teams going RB, WR WR. that said I was a good candidate to use Dodds stratagy. and this is the team I got.Garrard, David JAC QB Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB (wanted matt schwab, but was taken 2 picks ahead of me.)Turner, Michael ATL RB McFadden, Darren OAK RBThomas, Pierre NOS RBBrown, Donald IND RBFaulk, Kevin NEP RBJohnson, Calvin DET WRWhite, Roddy ATL WRCotchery, Jerricho NYJ WRAvery, Donnie STL WRJenkins, Michael ATL WRNicks, Hakeem NYG WRWitten, Jason DAL TEKaeding, Nate SDC PKCowboys, Dallas DAL Def
Was this a keeper league at all? If not, I would say this strategy worked for you. Nice team..
redraft
 
I'm not getting the Garrard love. We are past the point of debate, but I think people banking on Garrard as their QB1 are going to be very disapointed.

 
Deploying David Garrard as your QB1 is not recommended in my opinion. I don't care how stacked you are at RB and Wr (because you waited on that QB), Garrard could be a fantasy liability in your lineup.

And if you did wait that long to take Garrard as your QB1, you probably collected so many good RBs and WR's that you stumble on which ones to choose every week. Trouble.

 
Just curious if anybody followed Dodds suggestion & drafted Garrard as a QB#1 this year really late in the draft. I didn't in my 1st draft but got him as my backup. Have another draft this year & doubt I have the balls to go with him as my 1st QB drafted..funny he ranks Garrard very low in his early rankings for week 1.. yet is really talking him up. Is the Indy defense a lot better than I thought...Wondering if anybody did & liked the results of their team..
Indy last year had a bad run defense that was also on the field a lot. That lowered both Manning's and the opposing QB's fantasy numbers. I don't know if the new Colts D coordinator will blitz more or not - or if the Colts D can get off the field on 3rd downs. If they can, it will raise both Manning's and Colts opponent's QB numbers simply by having more possessions per game.
Statistically, the Run defense was worse, but I truly dont believe it was much worse in reality.here is why:1) up until last season, Indy would get up about 2 or 3 TD's and the opposing team would have to abandon the run because there is not a ton of time to catch up.2) Manning's slow start last year due to the undisclosed injury did hurt the Colts ability to jump ahead early and teams were able to run on them into the fourth Quarter.If Manning is fully recovered now, and if Gonzalez can put up at least 1000 yards receiving as the #2 option in this offense, I dont think this will be an issue anymore.of course, these are two big Ifs, but If all the above players are healthy this year, I dont think it is a huge stretch to make these assumptions.
 
Just curious if anybody followed Dodds suggestion & drafted Garrard as a QB#1 this year really late in the draft. I didn't in my 1st draft but got him as my backup. Have another draft this year & doubt I have the balls to go with him as my 1st QB drafted..funny he ranks Garrard very low in his early rankings for week 1.. yet is really talking him up. Is the Indy defense a lot better than I thought...Wondering if anybody did & liked the results of their team..
I didnt get him in my auction, but I tried to.he was overpriced and I had to seek a better deal elsewhere.
 
I drafted #3 in a 12 team PPR. and after many mock drafts I decided that I always had better teams going RB, WR WR. that said I was a good candidate to use Dodds stratagy. and this is the team I got.Garrard, David JAC QB Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB (wanted matt schwab, but was taken 2 picks ahead of me.)Turner, Michael ATL RB McFadden, Darren OAK RBThomas, Pierre NOS RBBrown, Donald IND RBFaulk, Kevin NEP RBJohnson, Calvin DET WRWhite, Roddy ATL WRCotchery, Jerricho NYJ WRAvery, Donnie STL WRJenkins, Michael ATL WRNicks, Hakeem NYG WRWitten, Jason DAL TEKaeding, Nate SDC PKCowboys, Dallas DAL Def
Was this a keeper league at all? If not, I would say this strategy worked for you. Nice team..
redraft
In a redraft, someone was sleeping at the wheel. Who did you get in the sixth? Witten, Mcfadden or Pierre Thomas? No chance any of these guys should have been there at 70.
 
In my most recent draft I took Garrard at 12.10 and Eli at 13.03 (14th and 15th QBs off the board). Did not necessarily plan it that way, but that's how it fell. Guess I'm looking at them as 1a and 1b and hoping that matchups work out. I'll prolly play Eli this week vs. Washington. According to the "Rate my Team" app, with good management I'm 99% likely to make the playoffs. At least David is consistent!

 
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He loves nothing more than the take the air out of the ball and I just forsee a lot 220-1-0 and 3-33-0 stat lines
If your in a standard 1pt10 rush yards and 1 pt 25 pass ards league a 220-1-0 3-33-0 line is worth the same as a 300-1-0 line- which equals 4800 yards and 16 TDs a season. That would make Garrard a damn fine QB to start weekly.
 
After following the Perfect Draft last year and finishing 1st in a 10 man and third in my 12 man (lost semi final by 2 yards and would have won the championship the next week)

This year looks just as good, here is my 12 man redraft, different starting rosters, I use 3 RB's and 1 WR (My 10 man league did not like that I won two years in a row, they are friends and did not want it to be a serious competitive league only a casual thing so I left)

Garrard

Campbell

Steven Jackson

Brandon Jacobs

Ronnie Brown

Beanie Wells

Chester Taylor

Micahel Bush

Chad Ochocinco

Anthony Gonzalez

Devin Hester

Torry Holt

Steve Smith NYG

Chris Cooley

Kaeding

Bears D

I have great depth, hopefully some of the WR's pan out. I 100% agree that the dropoff at RB and WR makes the difference. Why draft a QB so high when you can draft RB's and WR's who will give your team a higher point differential. Even if Garrard is average, my RB's and WR's will make up for it. That is the point of this strategy. So all the other teams QB's will outscore Garrard by 6-10 points every game, but all 4 of my other positions will outscore theirs. Who do you think wins?

 
In my most recent draft I took Garrard at 12.10 and Eli at 13.03 (14th and 15th QBs off the board). Did not necessarily plan it that way, but that's how it fell. Guess I'm looking at them as 1a and 1b and hoping that matchups work out. I'll prolly play Eli this week vs. Washington. According to the "Rate my Team" app, with good management I'm 99% likely to make the playoffs. At least David is consistent!
I think you may find that Eli is better than you originally thought too.between the two of them you will be just fine picking matchups so long as they stay healthy. As this has not been an issue for either player, I think you're probably fine.
 
Plus with Bob Sanders on the Bench, Jacksonville is going to run all day on the Colts
Thanks.. I wasn't really trying to be harsh.. just more curious as to how the teams fared as I do have 1 more draft tomorrow night..
I tried this strategy in one of my leagues:QB:David GarrardBen RoethlisbergerJoe FlaccoRB:Clinton PortisWillie ParkerLeon WashingtonWillis McGaheeLeRon McClainLadell BettsWR:Randy MossLarry FitzgeraldSteve SmithSantana MossTorry HoltTEOwen DanielsJared CookKRackersDefSD
 
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I went with Garrard as my number one in my big money 12-team league. Took him at 08.09 (93 overall). Got Kyle Orton later as backup (same bye week, I know). I was able to stock up at RB and WR while also reaching a bit and taking Witten in the third to take care of my TE spot.

I had the DD and Dodds article up on my laptop and went with them as planned.

I think it is going to work out well for me, but we will see.

 
I went with Garrard as my number one in my big money 12-team league. Took him at 08.09 (93 overall). Got Kyle Orton later as backup (same bye week, I know). I was able to stock up at RB and WR while also reaching a bit and taking Witten in the third to take care of my TE spot.I had the DD and Dodds article up on my laptop and went with them as planned.I think it is going to work out well for me, but we will see.
I'm not sure he's a number one. He's more of a 1A kinda QB. I'd grab another QB who maybe has questions such as injury. (ie. McNabb/Schaub/Warner) and have this guy as your #2. or you grab a guy like Delhomme or Rothlisberger and keep Garrard, and play matchups for both QBs.
 
IMO you can do worse than Garrard as your QB#1

2008:

Garrard finished as the #9 QB in my leagues

Jax had Fred and MJD, without Fred this year I would think they will pass more

Matt Jones was the only WR with a pulse, I think they are much improved and deeper at WR

O line was a MESS with injuries

2007:

Garrard finished as the QB# 16 QB but missed 5 games and going by game average he finished as QB #12

Once again they had the RB's to be run heavy

These were his top WR's-

Reggie Williams as #36WR

Northcutt as #56WR

Wilford as #62WR

With Jax having a very good SOS for QB's, less weapons at RB and more at WR I think QB #9 is his floor and QB #6 is his ceiling.

 
I took Garrard as backup to Brady. In last round I then took Hill because another owner that was cursing about the Garrard pick has no backup. I am planning on trading Garrard and keeping Hill. After the draft several owners said they were targeting Garrard so, I am hoping for a hot start.

 
whitem0nkey said:
I drafted #3 in a 12 team PPR. and after many mock drafts I decided that I always had better teams going RB, WR WR. that said I was a good candidate to use Dodds stratagy. and this is the team I got.Garrard, David JAC QB Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB (wanted matt schwab, but was taken 2 picks ahead of me.)Turner, Michael ATL RB McFadden, Darren OAK RBThomas, Pierre NOS RBBrown, Donald IND RBFaulk, Kevin NEP RBJohnson, Calvin DET WRWhite, Roddy ATL WRCotchery, Jerricho NYJ WRAvery, Donnie STL WRJenkins, Michael ATL WRNicks, Hakeem NYG WRWitten, Jason DAL TEKaeding, Nate SDC PKCowboys, Dallas DAL Def
i dont get these drafts. I had the 6th pick. CJ3 was long gone (2.02) by my pick in round 2. White was long gone at 2.10, jennings at 3.03. who do you play with???
 
In two different leagues Rambo is playing the match-ups with Garrard and Pennington. Don't feel good about it. On the upside my teams are extremely strong other wise. In each league there was a meathead picking up multiple QB's inside the top 7 rounds.

 
Garrard is the type of player on a team who plays with a RUN FIRST mentality, and with a team with pretty decent defense. He is the guy who won't hurt you using him as a back up as he throws FEW interceptions, his completion rate is higher than most and he has another year of experience under his belt..he will SHOCK.. people this year in games..and he will have better stats than most quarterbacks drafted near him, and he will have stats better than a few drafted.. BEFORE him.. He certainly IS the best..QB where he was drafted..as you always know what you will get..he is the difference and he is consistant. If your'e starter goes down, I could see trusting this guy...in a heartbeat which means in his HISTORY of consistancy and being a part of the same play book and..team, he keeps his job, unlike.. other quarterbacks drafted near him..look at his stats from last year when his ENTIRE offensive line went down in the first three weeks..and how he responded..the ENTIRE season afterwards..that is good enough for me..

The offensive line is back and solid, and will protect him..game in and game out..and the fact is that he will throw WHEN..he wants as games will be close, and he will not be throwing and MAKING HUGE MISTAKES.. like other quarterbacks drafted near him..who's teams and defenses are not as good as Jacksonville..

People don't have a clue how this right..mental state keeps a quarterback more confident when HE can DICTATE the pass and he has the advantage of the matchup..and sometimes a "one on one receiver" to throw to...when he has MJD and that O-line..making the opposing defense run a eight man front to stop the run, and..THEN..the BOMB comes..from Garrard. Now what quarterback drafted right before Garrard has ..THAT LUXURY?

This is important as he will take his time, and make good throws, and not be throwing in situations of being two to three touchdowns behind..like the other QB's..Garrard is for REAL..and will do well this year and he was a GREAT pick...and a great VALUE..and he WILL have more.. two touchdown games..and 250 yard games .. than you think, when the other guys drafted Brees and Brady early and you got one of the top 4 receivers, and top running backs...and you didn't jump on the bandwagon..and you waited on ..VALUE as Garrard and The Jacksonville Jaguar's are back ..believe it..

 
In both of my 10 team leagues I nabbed Palmer and Garrard in rounds 10-11. I'm hoping to god that at least one of these guys can make the top 10. The rest of my lineups are VERY strong at WR and pretty strong at RB, so hopefully it will work out. Depending on the league you're playing in I think getting QBs late has a real benefit. The key is getting one that blows up and finishes in the top 10. I picked Romo two years ago in like the 9th and that was the year I won my league.

I'm definitely nervous though. Can't wait to see how it all plays out!

 
Banger said:
I picked him up but am still not convinced that he'll be any good. Yes, I know all the stats, yes I know they improved their line, they added Holt and some wideouts but I just can't get over the offense and the Del Rio effect. I just can never see them going out there and throwing for 300 yards and 3 tds. If Del Rio is up by 10 at the half he's perfectly happy to hand it off on a 3rd and 10 in the 3rd quarter and play the field position game as opposed to trying to risk anything on any 3rd down and distance. He loves nothing more than the take the air out of the ball and I just forsee a lot 220-1-0 and 3-33-0 stat lines. The only time he'll probably really put up good games is when he runs in a TD but good luck predicting that. I think he'll be a fine backup and occassional spot start but after thinking long and hard about it there's absolutely no way I could risk my season on him being my starter.The fact is IF.."he [Garrard] threw three touchdowns and 300 yards" every week..he would be in the top four QB's drafted, check this out..when others were drafting those ..OTHER guys, [brady-Brees] and some of us took TOP running backs and receivers, please understand EVEN Brady, Brees will have games when they ONLY throw one or two touchdowns and ONLY have 260 yards, and Garrard will have the same stats THAT.. week..and you WILL have the ADVANTAGE that week because if you play against them, as your running backs and receivers are better than the other owners, who didn't draft the top RB's or recievers..and they took a quarterback who has the SAME STATS as your QB has that week.. and your RB's and WR's.. will win the game for you..is how to draft..you cannot say "he's no good". You have to look at the BIG picture..everyone in the League has VALUE..Garrard certainly does..agreed he's not always a starter.. per say, but he's a great fill in and you know what you have, unlike MOST QB's drafted near him..and when the opposing defences are running an eight man front to stop MJD..with their returning awesome o-line..Garrard will be throwing the BOMB..to a one on one receiver..for a touchdown..count on it..
 
I grabbed Schaub, Garrard and Leinart in my 14 team league. Had to grab Schaub first in 4.01 and Garrard 5.14. Earlier than I usually take QBs but I've had bad luck with taking QBs in the 9th round and later since Aaron Brooks left New Orleans. But it went to a two person keeper this year so it was like the draft started in the mid-second round. I'm happy with these two had them last year and they did pretty good and I expect even better numbers this year.

 
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I took Garrard. The year before I followed Dodd's advice and nabbed Cutler. Year before that I got Romo based on his opinion. That worked out well. Even if there is a rough week, most teams stick with their supposed Top 10 guy. The draft is so deep at QB this year, you can always rotate in the streaky guy at the right point of the season.

 
I really like Garrard this year. As I posted in the Underrated thread, I think he is amazingly underrated considering how terrible that line and receivers were last year.

In a ten teamer I ended up getting him at 11.11, which left me with a pretty stacked set of RB's and WR's AND the luxury of snatching Antonio Gates in the 6th.

 
I have Garrard as #1 in a 14 team redraft. Got him in Rd 10 I believe.

Garrard

Bulger

Gore

Slaton

Lynch

F Taylor

Faulk

Chris Brown

Bowe

Edwards

Avery

Hester

E. Bennett

Devin Thomas

Keller

Z Miller

Rackers

Feely

Seahawks

Raiders

I'd be interested in hearing thoughts but I feel pretty good about at least making the playoffs, especially with this result in a 14 teamer. Assuming Garrard pans out, I think my only real weakness is Defense

PPR League, 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLex

 
whitem0nkey said:
I drafted #3 in a 12 team PPR. and after many mock drafts I decided that I always had better teams going RB, WR WR. that said I was a good candidate to use Dodds stratagy. and this is the team I got.Garrard, David JAC QB Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB (wanted matt schwab, but was taken 2 picks ahead of me.)Turner, Michael ATL RB McFadden, Darren OAK RBThomas, Pierre NOS RBBrown, Donald IND RBFaulk, Kevin NEP RBJohnson, Calvin DET WRWhite, Roddy ATL WRCotchery, Jerricho NYJ WRAvery, Donnie STL WRJenkins, Michael ATL WRNicks, Hakeem NYG WRWitten, Jason DAL TEKaeding, Nate SDC PKCowboys, Dallas DAL Def
i dont get these drafts. I had the 6th pick. CJ3 was long gone (2.02) by my pick in round 2. White was long gone at 2.10, jennings at 3.03. who do you play with???
to be fair, this team is aided by circumstance. we had 2 new owners in our league (5th year). but none the less, it was the best drafted team according to the "rate my team tool" out of the 12 who drafted
 
Got Garrard to back up Cutler in a 14 team redraft this year, and was the 13th team to draft a QB, which helped a lot at other positions.

In a 10 team redraft that requires 2 (and only 2) QBs to be rostered, I have a partner who did not want Garrard, so we took Schaub to back up McNabb. 20 QBs are rostered, but Garrard is a free agent. Pretty surprising.

Edited to remove unnecessary team info, since I know no one cares.

 
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I was planning on picking him up late but McNabb fell to me at 7-1 and I figured that was too good of value to pass up. I still got Garrard at 10-12 as a backup. His number last year look pretty good with that bad ol and no wr's.

 
I went with Garrard as my number one in my big money 12-team league. Took him at 08.09 (93 overall). Got Kyle Orton later as backup (same bye week, I know). I was able to stock up at RB and WR while also reaching a bit and taking Witten in the third to take care of my TE spot.I had the DD and Dodds article up on my laptop and went with them as planned.I think it is going to work out well for me, but we will see.
Weird. Pretty much same deal. I took 3 qb's in a row starting in round 10 (12 team league, ppr), Garrard, Cassel, and Orton. And took Witten in the 3rd too.I went value in the first two rounds (I had pick 11) because there was a huge run on WR's early on. I got Frank Gore and Steven Jackson. My roster ended up:QB: Garrard, Cassel, OrtonRB: Steven Jackson, Frank Gore, Ryan Grant, Corell Buckhalter, James DavisWR: Brandon Marshall (4th round gamble), DeSean Jackson, Devin Hester, Domenick Hixon, Donnie Avery, Nate BurlesonTE: Jason Witten, Tony ShefflerK: Neil RackersD: Seahawks
 
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I was kind of hamstrung today - Wasn't completely confident Orton would be effective, and Cassel was inactive, so it was Garrard by default. Oof. Unfortunately, I didn't get good games from any of my starters either. Probably would have lost even if he threw for 250 and 2.

 

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