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Dodds: Why is Rams Avery ranked so much higher than Robinson? (1 Viewer)

In week 1, Robinson was targeted 10 times to Avery's 8. Robinson caught 5 balls for 87 yards and Avery caught 6 for 46. Both are playing in a new offense with a new coach and both are young, inexperienced WRs. Yet, in the Top 200 forward, Avery is ranked in the mid 20's for WRs and Robinson is ranked in the mid 50's. Why the divergence? Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.

 
Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.
I actually think Robinson will outperform Avery this season. Avery is in his second year, often a slump year for WRs who do well their rookie season, and he has to adjust to not having Holt across the field. On the other hand, Robinson is in his third year, a year when many WRs break out, and seems to be a better route runner than Avery.It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Robinson be the Rams leading receiver this year.
 
Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.
I actually think Robinson will outperform Avery this season. Avery is in his second year, often a slump year for WRs who do well their rookie season, and he has to adjust to not having Holt across the field. On the other hand, Robinson is in his third year, a year when many WRs break out, and seems to be a better route runner than Avery.It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Robinson be the Rams leading receiver this year.
I agree. Robinson is also fast (although not quite as fast as Avery), but is also a bigger, taller target. While some might say that neither Avery or Robinson are really built like a prototypical WR1, Robinson looks more the part than Avery does. And since neither of these guys have proven much in the NFL yet, I'll wager that the guy who had a great, injury-free camp and got more targets in Week 1 will be the best WR this year.
 
In week 1, Robinson was targeted 10 times to Avery's 8. Robinson caught 5 balls for 87 yards and Avery caught 6 for 46. Both are playing in a new offense with a new coach and both are young, inexperienced WRs. Yet, in the Top 200 forward, Avery is ranked in the mid 20's for WRs and Robinson is ranked in the mid 50's. Why the divergence? Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.
I wouldn't call them an even bet. Avery is a high draft choice of STL entering his second season after a promising rookie year. The Falcons essentially gave up on Robinson (trading their 6th rounder and Robinson for a 5th). That doesn't mean he can't succeed, just that he's not as likely IMO.
 
In week 1, Robinson was targeted 10 times to Avery's 8. Robinson caught 5 balls for 87 yards and Avery caught 6 for 46. Both are playing in a new offense with a new coach and both are young, inexperienced WRs. Yet, in the Top 200 forward, Avery is ranked in the mid 20's for WRs and Robinson is ranked in the mid 50's. Why the divergence? Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.
I wouldn't call them an even bet. Avery is a high draft choice of STL entering his second season after a promising rookie year. The Falcons essentially gave up on Robinson (trading their 6th rounder and Robinson for a 5th). That doesn't mean he can't succeed, just that he's not as likely IMO.
Regardless of what the Falcons did, the Ram reportedly love Robinson and what he's shown in camp, preseason, and now week 1. Avery didn't accomplish that much last year, really. And even if Avery is a slightly "better bet", that still doesn't explain the 30 place divergence in their respective rankings...
 
I can understand Avery being ranked higher, but I agree that the disparity between the two seems a bit too wide a gap imo.

 
In week 1, Robinson was targeted 10 times to Avery's 8. Robinson caught 5 balls for 87 yards and Avery caught 6 for 46. Both are playing in a new offense with a new coach and both are young, inexperienced WRs. Yet, in the Top 200 forward, Avery is ranked in the mid 20's for WRs and Robinson is ranked in the mid 50's. Why the divergence? Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.
I wouldn't call them an even bet. Avery is a high draft choice of STL entering his second season after a promising rookie year. The Falcons essentially gave up on Robinson (trading their 6th rounder and Robinson for a 5th). That doesn't mean he can't succeed, just that he's not as likely IMO.
Of all the good work done down in ATL, I think that so far is the biggest blunder they have made. They over valued Jenkins and Douglas. They got nothing for Robinson.Own him in both my leagues but he'll never see the field in the dynasty league. In redraft, he should probalby start over Lance Moore. 95% snap count to 37% or so.

He's got what it takes if he can keep focused and injury free...even on the pathetic Rams who will always play from behind.

 
Didn't Avery have some monster games end of last year? I wouldn't write the guy off after week 1, not for Lauren Robinson.

 
Didn't Avery have some monster games end of last year? I wouldn't write the guy off after week 1, not for Lauren Robinson.
Not really. Avery went for 163 yards and a TD in Week 8 last year. His best game for the rest of the season was 40 yards and a TD in week 17 (this was the only TD he caught after week 8). His receiving yardage totals from week 9 to week 17 were:262993140 (he played this game)18615640Bottom line, neither of these guys have done much so far in their short careers, but someone is going to catch balls for STL this year.
 
In week 1, Robinson was targeted 10 times to Avery's 8. Robinson caught 5 balls for 87 yards and Avery caught 6 for 46. Both are playing in a new offense with a new coach and both are young, inexperienced WRs. Yet, in the Top 200 forward, Avery is ranked in the mid 20's for WRs and Robinson is ranked in the mid 50's. Why the divergence? Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.
I wouldn't call them an even bet. Avery is a high draft choice of STL entering his second season after a promising rookie year. The Falcons essentially gave up on Robinson (trading their 6th rounder and Robinson for a 5th). That doesn't mean he can't succeed, just that he's not as likely IMO.
Of all the good work done down in ATL, I think that so far is the biggest blunder they have made. They over valued Jenkins and Douglas. They got nothing for Robinson.Own him in both my leagues but he'll never see the field in the dynasty league. In redraft, he should probalby start over Lance Moore. 95% snap count to 37% or so.

He's got what it takes if he can keep focused and injury free...even on the pathetic Rams who will always play from behind.
I don't own Avery in any leagues. I actually have Robinson in dynasty. I'd prefer to have Avery. Why? I assume that the Falcons traded away Robinson due the injury issues. They obviously feel he can't stay on the field.
 
Didn't Avery have some monster games end of last year? I wouldn't write the guy off after week 1, not for Lauren Robinson.
The only one to write off on that team is Bulger. He can't possibly survive the season. That puts Boller in there. :thumbup: He fed Robinson during the preseason with Avery out.
 
In week 1, Robinson was targeted 10 times to Avery's 8. Robinson caught 5 balls for 87 yards and Avery caught 6 for 46. Both are playing in a new offense with a new coach and both are young, inexperienced WRs. Yet, in the Top 200 forward, Avery is ranked in the mid 20's for WRs and Robinson is ranked in the mid 50's. Why the divergence? Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.
I wouldn't call them an even bet. Avery is a high draft choice of STL entering his second season after a promising rookie year. The Falcons essentially gave up on Robinson (trading their 6th rounder and Robinson for a 5th). That doesn't mean he can't succeed, just that he's not as likely IMO.
Of all the good work done down in ATL, I think that so far is the biggest blunder they have made. They over valued Jenkins and Douglas. They got nothing for Robinson.Own him in both my leagues but he'll never see the field in the dynasty league. In redraft, he should probalby start over Lance Moore. 95% snap count to 37% or so.

He's got what it takes if he can keep focused and injury free...even on the pathetic Rams who will always play from behind.
I don't own Avery in any leagues. I actually have Robinson in dynasty. I'd prefer to have Avery. Why? I assume that the Falcons traded away Robinson due the injury issues. They obviously feel he can't stay on the field.
Which means what? Nothing. Avery is the one who got injured his rookie season, and missed preseason time due to the injury. I'm not sure how you could count injuries against Robinson, but not Avery. :clap:
 
In week 1, Robinson was targeted 10 times to Avery's 8. Robinson caught 5 balls for 87 yards and Avery caught 6 for 46. Both are playing in a new offense with a new coach and both are young, inexperienced WRs. Yet, in the Top 200 forward, Avery is ranked in the mid 20's for WRs and Robinson is ranked in the mid 50's. Why the divergence? Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.
I wouldn't call them an even bet. Avery is a high draft choice of STL entering his second season after a promising rookie year. The Falcons essentially gave up on Robinson (trading their 6th rounder and Robinson for a 5th). That doesn't mean he can't succeed, just that he's not as likely IMO.
They were both drafted in Round 3 of their respective drafts.
 
In week 1, Robinson was targeted 10 times to Avery's 8. Robinson caught 5 balls for 87 yards and Avery caught 6 for 46. Both are playing in a new offense with a new coach and both are young, inexperienced WRs. Yet, in the Top 200 forward, Avery is ranked in the mid 20's for WRs and Robinson is ranked in the mid 50's. Why the divergence? Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.
I wouldn't call them an even bet. Avery is a high draft choice of STL entering his second season after a promising rookie year. The Falcons essentially gave up on Robinson (trading their 6th rounder and Robinson for a 5th). That doesn't mean he can't succeed, just that he's not as likely IMO.
They were both drafted in Round 3 of their respective drafts.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8810
 
In week 1, Robinson was targeted 10 times to Avery's 8. Robinson caught 5 balls for 87 yards and Avery caught 6 for 46. Both are playing in a new offense with a new coach and both are young, inexperienced WRs. Yet, in the Top 200 forward, Avery is ranked in the mid 20's for WRs and Robinson is ranked in the mid 50's. Why the divergence? Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.
I wouldn't call them an even bet. Avery is a high draft choice of STL entering his second season after a promising rookie year. The Falcons essentially gave up on Robinson (trading their 6th rounder and Robinson for a 5th). That doesn't mean he can't succeed, just that he's not as likely IMO.
They were both drafted in Round 3 of their respective drafts.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8810
Thanks. Good catch. Not sure why I thought Avery went in the 3rd. Still 3rd Round Against 2nd Round. I dont see too much of a difference. It's all about development.

 
I don't own Avery in any leagues. I actually have Robinson in dynasty. I'd prefer to have Avery. Why? I assume that the Falcons traded away Robinson due the injury issues. They obviously feel he can't stay on the field.
Here's the scoop.The Rams attempted to fill in their depth issues at receiver by trading for Laurent Robinson from Atlanta for draft pick swaps in the 5th and 6th round.

Laurent Robinson is a speedy wide receiver out of Illinois State. He ran a 4.38 40 yard dash in the workouts leading up to the 2007 draft. He also possesses great run after the catch skills, which will come in handy with the new West Coast Offense. He’s got good size, at 6-2 to challenge NFC West corners.

But, why did the Atlanta Falcons part with him for so little? He seemingly fell into the doghouse with the new Atlanta staff in 2008 and only played in about half the games. The Atlanta staff had wide receivers they liked more than Robinson and he was expendable.

Rams GM Billy Devaney was working as an assistant GM for Atlanta during the 2007 draft and must have remembered seeing something in Robinson that he liked. Robinson will compete with Keenan Burton (and any 2009 WR draft picks) for the starting slot opposite Donnie Avery. Robinson was never able to gain any consistency with Atlanta and after two years in the league is still a rough gem. Robinson has a chance to be a huge boom for the Rams and is a known quantity by Billy Devaney and cost very little. This is a great move for the Rams and the type of move that Devaney excels at. If the Rams give Robinson consistent playing time, he will have a great chance to develop into a star wide receiver.

 
Didn't Avery have some monster games end of last year? I wouldn't write the guy off after week 1, not for Lauren Robinson.
The only one to write off on that team is Bulger. He can't possibly survive the season. That puts Boller in there. :thumbup: He fed Robinson during the preseason with Avery out.
The problem is that Bulger touches the ball every down. Based on what we have seen in previous years and in one game so far, the Rams just don't score enough to trust and WR right now. I think it should be mentioned that Avery got no games in the preseason. First week should be chalked up to Rams easing him in.
 
It's kind of intriguing that on the Official Rams' Depth Chart, they list Robinson as WR and Avery as WR2. Now, we all know that is not going to be the determining factor as to which one is going to perform better in the weeks ahead, but one thing seems certain, if Robinson stays healthy and if he keeps getting a high volume of targets as he did last week, he has nowhere to go but up in the rankings. There are lots of guys in the NFL who possess the talent to succeed, they just need the opportunity to do so. I think Robinson is a case in point.

 
In week 1, Robinson was targeted 10 times to Avery's 8. Robinson caught 5 balls for 87 yards and Avery caught 6 for 46. Both are playing in a new offense with a new coach and both are young, inexperienced WRs. Yet, in the Top 200 forward, Avery is ranked in the mid 20's for WRs and Robinson is ranked in the mid 50's. Why the divergence? Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.
I wouldn't call them an even bet. Avery is a high draft choice of STL entering his second season after a promising rookie year. The Falcons essentially gave up on Robinson (trading their 6th rounder and Robinson for a 5th). That doesn't mean he can't succeed, just that he's not as likely IMO.
They were both drafted in Round 3 of their respective drafts.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8810
Thanks. Good catch. Not sure why I thought Avery went in the 3rd. Still 3rd Round Against 2nd Round. I dont see too much of a difference. It's all about development.
Rams thought enough of him to take him as the first WR off the board. It's hard to imagine no WR's were picked until a few picks into the second round.
 
In week 1, Robinson was targeted 10 times to Avery's 8. Robinson caught 5 balls for 87 yards and Avery caught 6 for 46. Both are playing in a new offense with a new coach and both are young, inexperienced WRs. Yet, in the Top 200 forward, Avery is ranked in the mid 20's for WRs and Robinson is ranked in the mid 50's. Why the divergence? Seems like Robinson is as good a bet as Avery to perform this year.
I wouldn't call them an even bet. Avery is a high draft choice of STL entering his second season after a promising rookie year. The Falcons essentially gave up on Robinson (trading their 6th rounder and Robinson for a 5th). That doesn't mean he can't succeed, just that he's not as likely IMO.
Of all the good work done down in ATL, I think that so far is the biggest blunder they have made. They over valued Jenkins and Douglas. They got nothing for Robinson.Own him in both my leagues but he'll never see the field in the dynasty league. In redraft, he should probalby start over Lance Moore. 95% snap count to 37% or so.

He's got what it takes if he can keep focused and injury free...even on the pathetic Rams who will always play from behind.
I don't own Avery in any leagues. I actually have Robinson in dynasty. I'd prefer to have Avery. Why? I assume that the Falcons traded away Robinson due the injury issues. They obviously feel he can't stay on the field.
Which means what? Nothing. Avery is the one who got injured his rookie season, and missed preseason time due to the injury. I'm not sure how you could count injuries against Robinson, but not Avery. :thumbup:
I am not saying Robinson is junk. Just that I'd prefer to have Avery.Avery was drafted 33rd overall last year and was the 1st WR taken. He backed it up with a solid rookie campaign. 53/674/3 with another 10/69/1 rushing. Not quite starting FF material, but a very good season for a rookie. I am not the biggest follower of the Rams, but I don't see where he has missed 1 game due to injury.

Robinson was drafted the year before 75th overall and the 12th WR off the board. He had a decent rookie campaign, 37/437/1. He then had an injury marred second season and was reduced to 5/52. Then he was traded away by the Falcons, who opted to keep Micheal Jenkins instead.

Again, this doesn't mean I think Robinson can't be successful. I just think Avery is a better prospect right now.

 
ryoly said:
It's kind of intriguing that on the Official Rams' Depth Chart, they list Robinson as WR and Avery as WR2. Now, we all know that is not going to be the determining factor as to which one is going to perform better in the weeks ahead, but one thing seems certain, if Robinson stays healthy and if he keeps getting a high volume of targets as he did last week, he has nowhere to go but up in the rankings. There are lots of guys in the NFL who possess the talent to succeed, they just need the opportunity to do so. I think Robinson is a case in point.
Interesting about the depth chart thing...
 

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