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Does it matter if they are good or bad live?
If their recorded stuff sucks, I'm not paying to see them live.If they suck live I never really want to listen to their recorded stuff.
Pretty sure the OP meant the sound.Also, what do you mean by good or bad live? Music sounded bad or was the show just not entertaining?
Not sure what you mean. I always thought a band would aspire to sounding just like the recordI can't stand it when a band sounds exactly the same live as they do in studio. That will turn me off more than an actual bad performance as long as they are trying something different.
That would piss me off more than if I went to a concert and they sucked. Part of seeing a band live is the uniqueness of the event.Not sure what you mean. I always thought a band would aspire to sounding just like the recordI can't stand it when a band sounds exactly the same live as they do in studio. That will turn me off more than an actual bad performance as long as they are trying something different.
Yep. I'm not a big music guy, but I go to a concert to see a performance. I don't go to see a bunch of guys sing/play the album in front of me.That would piss me off more than if I went to a concert and they sucked. Part of seeing a band live is the uniqueness of the event.Not sure what you mean. I always thought a band would aspire to sounding just like the recordI can't stand it when a band sounds exactly the same live as they do in studio. That will turn me off more than an actual bad performance as long as they are trying something different.
Not usually. Here's an easy example: check out Cheap Trick's "I Want You To Want Me" studio version on In Color and the live version on Live at the Budokan. I the studio, producer Tom Werman meant to help the band break commercially, and so polished any traces of hard edge off the finished product. At the Budokan, the band let loose and delviered an AOR classic.Not sure what you mean. I always thought a band would aspire to sounding just like the recordI can't stand it when a band sounds exactly the same live as they do in studio. That will turn me off more than an actual bad performance as long as they are trying something different.
Im not suggesting they just go out and try to nail it like a studio session and not put on a show, but im sure they would like to show that they really are talented musicians and its not all studio magicHow different from the album do you expect them to sound?That would piss me off more than if I went to a concert and they sucked. Part of seeing a band live is the uniqueness of the event.Not sure what you mean. I always thought a band would aspire to sounding just like the recordI can't stand it when a band sounds exactly the same live as they do in studio. That will turn me off more than an actual bad performance as long as they are trying something different.
Agree with this. I'd say that quality live performances can bump a band up (in my mind) a lot more than bad live performances can bring a band down. If I enjoy the studio versions, listening to poor live versions won't make me enjoy the album less. On the flip side, a stirring live performance can make me look a second time at an act that I had formerly cast aside.There are still artists that I enjoy that I have been very disappointed in with their live shows. There are other artists who I have come to enjoy later on simply because I loved the live show.
I'm not talking about the actual technical quality of the instruments or of their voices. Yes, I'm sure they want to sound as great as they do on the album. We're talking some solos, improving, engaging the crowd, etc.Im not suggesting they just go out and try to nail it like a studio session and not put on a show, but im sure they would like to show that they really are talented musicians and its not all studio magicHow different from the album do you expect them to sound?That would piss me off more than if I went to a concert and they sucked. Part of seeing a band live is the uniqueness of the event.Not sure what you mean. I always thought a band would aspire to sounding just like the recordI can't stand it when a band sounds exactly the same live as they do in studio. That will turn me off more than an actual bad performance as long as they are trying something different.
its great to play around with the structure or length of a song fora live audience but you still want tonsound crisp.I dont personally have experience with this as a deathmetal singer.my, and the bNds, goal was always to keep it really tight and solid.Not usually. Here's an easy example: check out Cheap Trick's "I Want You To Want Me" studio version on In Color and the live version on Live at the Budokan. I the studio, producer Tom Werman meant to help the band break commercially, and so polished any traces of hard edge off the finished product. At the Budokan, the band let loose and delviered an AOR classic.Not sure what you mean. I always thought a band would aspire to sounding just like the recordI can't stand it when a band sounds exactly the same live as they do in studio. That will turn me off more than an actual bad performance as long as they are trying something different.
Oh we are just talking about a boring performance?I'm not talking about the actual technical quality of the instruments or of their voices. Yes, I'm sure they want to sound as great as they do on the album. We're talking some solos, improving, engaging the crowd, etc.Im not suggesting they just go out and try to nail it like a studio session and not put on a show, but im sure they would like to show that they really are talented musicians and its not all studio magicHow different from the album do you expect them to sound?That would piss me off more than if I went to a concert and they sucked. Part of seeing a band live is the uniqueness of the event.Not sure what you mean. I always thought a band would aspire to sounding just like the recordI can't stand it when a band sounds exactly the same live as they do in studio. That will turn me off more than an actual bad performance as long as they are trying something different.
I've always like the Foo Fighters and almost saw them a couple times over the years but never worked out. Saw them last year and what a show they put. Dave Groehl is the man and it took my appreciation of him and the band to another level. Just a great performer with great music....nothing better.I dont see many live acts, so I voted no. That being said, I did gain respect for Maroon 5 and the Goo-Goo Dolls after seeing them live at a corporate event.
The Beatles were excellent live. HTH.No.
Consider that the latter half of the Beatles material was never played live by the band, since they had stopped touring, and would have been impossible to replicate as is at the time with just the four of them. If that means the Beatles suck, well...
Saw them open for MMJ a few years back and didn't know alot of their tunes....but they very good live, you should enjoy.absolutely it makes a difference for me. I've been turned onto several bands due to their live performances. also, very disappointing to have a band you like and then have them bomb on stage. Actually going to Band of Horses tomorrow night and I think/hope they'll be good live.
sweet....looking forward to it. Midlake is opening up for them. I don't know a ton about them but I've mentioned them to a few people and apparently they have an underground following and sound a bit like Pink Floyd.Saw them open for MMJ a few years back and didn't know alot of their tunes....but they very good live, you should enjoy.absolutely it makes a difference for me. I've been turned onto several bands due to their live performances. also, very disappointing to have a band you like and then have them bomb on stage. Actually going to Band of Horses tomorrow night and I think/hope they'll be good live.![]()
Absolutely matters to me. I listen to mostly live music and my favorite bands probably are my favorite because of their greatness in a live setting.
Jim James never gets old!I thought Band of Horses were good. The reverb-drenched vocal thing that he and Jim James lean on does get old in a hurry though. That double-bill was a bit much.
You're correct, AppleJack, but Ghost's point is well taken, too. With some music, the studio and the recording/production equipment itself is kind of used as an instrument, fundamental to the sound. Much of the Beatles' later experimental work certainly qualifies.The Beatles were excellent live. HTH.No.
Consider that the latter half of the Beatles material was never played live by the band, since they had stopped touring, and would have been impossible to replicate as is at the time with just the four of them. If that means the Beatles suck, well...
I like him. Just in small doses.Jim James never gets old!I thought Band of Horses were good. The reverb-drenched vocal thing that he and Jim James lean on does get old in a hurry though. That double-bill was a bit much.
ya, I heard they were horrendous so it's not just a bad day type of thing.I was never a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan, but when their stuff came on I usually didn't turn on something else. Then I saw them in concert last year. They closed out an all day festival. It was awful. Don't think I've ever walked out on a show before, but I and more than half of the crowd did. Now when they come in I skip because I'm immediately reminded about how awful they were live.
So, yeah.
Exactly.You're correct, AppleJack, but Ghost's point is well taken, too. With some music, the studio and the recording/production equipment itself is kind of used as an instrument, fundamental to the sound. Much of the Beatles' later experimental work certainly qualifies.The Beatles were excellent live. HTH.No.
Consider that the latter half of the Beatles material was never played live by the band, since they had stopped touring, and would have been impossible to replicate as is at the time with just the four of them. If that means the Beatles suck, well...
Personally, I've found that artists like the Pet Shop Boys and Tears for Fears suffer from this effect when performing live. Tears' singer Roland Orzabal has a phenomenal voice, but their live show used to resemble a karaoke act because they relied so much on recordings to execute the music itself.
I'm having trouble seeing what this has to do with putting on a live show, though. No one's saying that the artist needs to be able to execute every song in their catalog in a live setting....an artist with sufficient material should be able to pick and choose what they should or should not play live. St. Vincent rarely plays anything off her first album in a live show, because the first album was recorded with extra instrumentation and is too complicated for her touring group to play. She plays mostly stuff off her later albums....and her live shows are great. If her live show sucked, I'd think less of her as an artist. The fact that she doesn't play much off her first album doesn't make her live show worse, just different....IMO, of course.Exactly.You're correct, AppleJack, but Ghost's point is well taken, too. With some music, the studio and the recording/production equipment itself is kind of used as an instrument, fundamental to the sound. Much of the Beatles' later experimental work certainly qualifies.The Beatles were excellent live. HTH.No.
Consider that the latter half of the Beatles material was never played live by the band, since they had stopped touring, and would have been impossible to replicate as is at the time with just the four of them. If that means the Beatles suck, well...
Personally, I've found that artists like the Pet Shop Boys and Tears for Fears suffer from this effect when performing live. Tears' singer Roland Orzabal has a phenomenal voice, but their live show used to resemble a karaoke act because they relied so much on recordings to execute the music itself.
And I have no problem with bands doing all kinds of crazy stuff in the studio that they can't do live. That is the advantage of being in the studio and having all of those things at your disposal.
You're take makes sense from the perspective of a live-gig death-metal performer -- it's something of a constrained style of music. Go too far off the genre expectations, and you risk losing your audience by sounding not enough like death metal.its great to play around with the structure or length of a song fora live audience but you still want tonsound crisp.I dont personally have experience with this as a deathmetal singer.my, and the bNds, goal was always to keep it really tight and solid.
Thats actually one of my gripes with the genre and the people ive worked with. I pike progressive deaty/black metal and all kinds of varying music and some of these guys fail to acknowledge any other genres exist and they write boring crapYou're take makes sense from the perspective of a live-gig death-metal performer -- it's something of a constrained style of music. Go too far off the genre expectations, and you risk losing your audience by sounding not enough like death metal.its great to play around with the structure or length of a song fora live audience but you still want tonsound crisp.
I dont personally have experience with this as a deathmetal singer.my, and the bNds, goal was always to keep it really tight and solid.