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Does fantasy football feel different this season--or is it just me? (1 Viewer)

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I want to disclaim that I'm not fishing here--nor am I venting. I especially know that today might be an emotionally charged day for much of the fantasy community because of all of the injuries to key players--but luckily I wasn't super effected. My apologies to everybody that was effected in a negative way by the madness that was today. I'm not starting this topic to troll and I would appreciate if we can go out of our way to keep trolling out of this thread if possible. If this topic means nothing to you--I ask that you simply not respond as opposed to posting snarky comments and ruining the motivation for people who actually want to share their opinions from responding.

I've been playing fantasy football for many years now. I generally am very enthusiastic and excited about it. Normally at this point in the season (only week 2)--I would truly eat, bleed, and sleep football and fantasy football. However--while I am enjoying the NFL and fantasy football so far this season--I just find the way I feel this early in the season to be different. It's almost like I feel mentally exhausted by it. My apologies for not being able to explain myself super clearly--but this feeling is why I started this thread.

My question is---does anybody else also feel this to be the case--and if so--why do you think that is? I was thinking that perhaps it's due to the fact that it seems like "football is more than football" this year--with all of the domestic violence, drug, and the child abuse (or discipline issues based on how each person sees it) that are occurring. I used to think of football (and sports in general) as a sanctuary to almost disconnect or tune out from these real world issues for a few hours a week--and for me--it seems like that sanctuary is no longer there. Anyhow--I'm going to get back to watching the game and enjoy a brewsky--but it would be cool to hear some thoughts of others if you care to take the time to share.

 
Half the league is suspended. I'm hearing 4 games for speeding tickets from 2 years ago....

Seriously though, QB play sucks. The era is about to be turned over to a very marginal group of QB's after Brady, Manning, Brees and to a lesser extend EManning (who, yes, sucks nuts right now), Ben and Rivers are gone. SF/Sea lean on defense and Cincy is similar to that. The penalties are craptacular and making the game follow suit. Goodell and every league owner putting their filthy little paws on rules and "personal conduct" can go the #### away any minute now. They need blanket, transparent penalties not Goodell's FBI circus.

 
I feel the same way man.

Turn on the nfl network and it's player gossip 24/7. Barely any talk about actual football. All about suspensions, child abuse, spousal abuse, drug abuse..

And to top it off we had a preseason with very few injuries and then weeks 1 and 2 were injury riddled and just flat out weird. I had a feeling that teams that are scoring well in weeks 1 and 2 will be not scoring well soon and teams that have been weak to start the season will come alive. So many studs underperforming and so many mirage type guys getting the love.

Been playing ff for many years as well. I almost completely quit this year. Stayed in my 2 long standing leagues BC they keep me in touch with buddies from elementary school and college, but I have not been enjoying ff for a few years now even though I've been winning. And this year in enjoying it the least.

 
rickyg said:
I feel the same way man.

Turn on the nfl network and it's player gossip 24/7. Barely any talk about actual football. All about suspensions, child abuse, spousal abuse, drug abuse..

And to top it off we had a preseason with very few injuries and then weeks 1 and 2 were injury riddled and just flat out weird. I had a feeling that teams that are scoring well in weeks 1 and 2 will be not scoring well soon and teams that have been weak to start the season will come alive. So many studs underperforming and so many mirage type guys getting the love.

Been playing ff for many years as well. I almost completely quit this year. Stayed in my 2 long standing leagues BC they keep me in touch with buddies from elementary school and college, but I have not been enjoying ff for a few years now even though I've been winning. And this year in enjoying it the least.
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I feel like you might be right. It's almost like the MTV effect. I remember when I used to watch and like MTV because they actually played and spoke about music. Now you turn on MTV--and it's pretty much everything except for music. For me--it feels like the NFL is literally becoming less football and more social media.

 
Fantasy Football has exploded.Got little kids playing. Parents are playing. Its overkill now. Like facebook . When it was just you and your friends etc it was cool but as soon as you got the friends request from your mom, grandmother, great grand mother and your mother in law , the party was over. it has gone mainstream and it will never be the same now. My son and his frends (10-13 years old) are all playing in leagues. Some of the mothers are in the leagues.Its nutz.

 
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I think part of the problem is that it starts so dang early. I can remember a time when you would pick up a magazine a week before draft day and maybe read that for draft prep. Now you are behind if you don't follow stuff starting in the end of July.

The market is too saturated with information. There's like 30+ fantasy football sites, another 30ish podcasts, newsletters sent to your email, mock drafts in June, etc etc

People tend to join too many leagues as well. I'm personally in 3, all local, all <$100 entry. I play for fun and to watch some football. I don't really care about injuries because I'm not in $500 leagues with $100,000 top prize pools. If I lose a player for the year, I just trade for what I need or hit waivers. I'm not in super serious leagues sure, but I'm having fun instead of dreading injury reports or posting woe-is-me stuff in the Shark Pool.

Moral of the story: pick only a few local leagues to play in for low money and start your research about a week before draft day

 
lod01 said:
It's you. I am off to a record setting scoring pace.
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Fantasy wise--I can't complain in regards to the performance of my teams. After this week--I should be in the top 3 in standings in all three of the leagues that I play in--so thats why I didn't want anybody to think this was a vent or a rant. With that being said--I still very much enjoyed your reply. lol. Well done.

 
Thanks for starting the thread. I agree with you - this is the first year in many years where my enthusiasm for the game is definitely down. I think it is for the reasons you say - too many serious scandals affecting the League and too many injuries as well. The Adrian Peterson story really shook me up this week. This guy was an icon in the League for me. Loved the way he played the game and thought he had a chance to go down as one of the top 5 RB's of all time. Now all I can think of is how sad his life is. He has one child killed by domestic violence, and then less than a year later he is whipping his 4 year old son to a barbaric degree.

I know these guys aren't heroes. I know they are flawed. And I know the media reports on everything these guys do. But what the heart feels the brain can't explain away. It's a little depressing having all these issues first and foremost in my mind, and it makes me want to spend less time around it and more time around things that are a little easier on the soul.

I honestly think the NFL and the networks need to spend some time in the next few weeks highlighting the good that is in the NFL. I'm sure there are plenty of great feel-good stories out there.

 
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There have been less fantasy discussions and more political sports discussions which is frustrating. Matthew Berry took a lot of crap for immediately talking about the Ravens RB fantasy implications from ESPN after Ray Rice got fired. They said it was insensitive. That's crap, I don't need ESPN or any other sports network getting political with me. I just want sports, stats, projections, etc.

Also, the amount of injuries to big names is crazy high, I can't ever remember a year quite like this. The red zone seemed like a war zone earlier, everyone was going down.

 
Thursday night football has had a HUGE negative impact on fantasy, IMO, and is part of the reason for the "exhaustion". MNF happens, the week ends, and in less than 3 days, it's right back up again with waivers having to get squeezed into that tiny window. Before, it's 2 days of football and then 6 days to take a break, make moves, and get excited again. With the amount of injuries, TNF makes setting lineups a chore and too much of a guessing game.

I absolutely HATE Thursday Night Football.

 
chickensoup said:
I think part of the problem is that it starts so dang early. I can remember a time when you would pick up a magazine a week before draft day and maybe read that for draft prep. Now you are behind if you don't follow stuff starting in the end of July.

The market is too saturated with information. There's like 30+ fantasy football sites, another 30ish podcasts, newsletters sent to your email, mock drafts in June, etc etc

People tend to join too many leagues as well. I'm personally in 3, all local, all <$100 entry. I play for fun and to watch some football. I don't really care about injuries because I'm not in $500 leagues with $100,000 top prize pools. If I lose a player for the year, I just trade for what I need or hit waivers. I'm not in super serious leagues sure, but I'm having fun instead of dreading injury reports or posting woe-is-me stuff in the Shark Pool.

Moral of the story: pick only a few local leagues to play in for low money and start your research about a week before draft day
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You definitely might be onto something here. I never had really thought of it--but when I was younger--I used to work in the sportscard industry as a small side-job when I was in high school (and into my early years of college). The sportscard industry was doing really well until the market became so over-saturated with products--it was almost like sensory overload. With the over-saturation of products came this big push for making things more and more "special" and upscale--and the hobby went from being something that a father and son could enjoy--to only being affordable to the wealthy. To make a long story short--this oversaturation--followed by this capitalistic desire to make things more expensive basically caused the entire sports-card world to collapse. It's almost like it took the "fun" out of it for the majority of the people that used to enjoy collecting. I certainly don't see that happening to the NFL anytime soon--but I certainly feel a bit less enthusiastic about it than I did before.

 
I agree with many here, i think it stems from oversaturation in general. You can't get away from football or fantasy football, its everywhere. Used to be fun because research and knowledge actually gave you an upperhand in winning. Now, everyone has the same info, same sleepers, same everything. It's more of a cr@pshoot now, might as well just autodraft, you have just as good of a chance of winning. It's fun if you take it for what it is but if you breath, eat, sleep this stuff, you are wasting a bunch of time. It's frustrating for some when time and knowledge doesn't equal success.

 
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gianmarco said:
Thursday night football has had a HUGE negative impact on fantasy, IMO, and is part of the reason for the "exhaustion". MNF happens, the week ends, and in less than 3 days, it's right back up again with waivers having to get squeezed into that tiny window. Before, it's 2 days of football and then 6 days to take a break, make moves, and get excited again. With the amount of injuries, TNF makes setting lineups a chore and too much of a guessing game.

I absolutely HATE Thursday Night Football.
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Thursday night football pretty much killed those marquee college matchups they used to have too.

 
I definitely get where you are coming from and feel a little the same way likely for different and personal reasons. And I do think scoring is down overall based on scores in my leagues and that has something to do with it as well.

I've never been one to complain about Thursday night football and the extra prime time games but I think this is the flip side of the NFL pushing and pushing to expand it's exposure and make more money. It's now a 24-7 news cycle, too many websites, basically 3/4 of society is a potential walking investigative video journalist if they want to be. The NFL, like everything, has warts and they are now being exposed and discussed more than ever. But it's mostly self inflicted by greed and some bad policies.

It's a different time in football both on and off the field. Not really a Mark Cuban fan but he's not just talking out of his assess when he said whatever he said. Pigs get fat and pigs get slaughtered. The NFL has been the boss hog of professional sports for a while now. It's a fine line to walk growing the game with out overexposing it. And the the NFL has a serious image and perception problem that's hit them very quickly as the owners rake in billions of dollars.

I'm a sell out and will likely always be a fan who invest too much in this sport but I can see people getting turned off and scaling things back. Maybe me too.

At the end of the day let's also remember football still provides two things pretty damn well. Real drama and entertainment and the ability for people to wager/win money and self importance through gambling, fantasy, office pick ems, etc. That's a tough combo to beat.

 
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NREC34 said:
gianmarco said:
Thursday night football has had a HUGE negative impact on fantasy, IMO, and is part of the reason for the "exhaustion". MNF happens, the week ends, and in less than 3 days, it's right back up again with waivers having to get squeezed into that tiny window. Before, it's 2 days of football and then 6 days to take a break, make moves, and get excited again. With the amount of injuries, TNF makes setting lineups a chore and too much of a guessing game.

I absolutely HATE Thursday Night Football.
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Thursday night football pretty much killed those marquee college matchups they used to have too.
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This is true. I hadn't thought of the fact that maybe the Thursday night game almost does contribute to the mental exhaustion a bit. It definitely complicates things for everybody. Great point.

 
gianmarco said:
Thursday night football has had a HUGE negative impact on fantasy, IMO, and is part of the reason for the "exhaustion". MNF happens, the week ends, and in less than 3 days, it's right back up again with waivers having to get squeezed into that tiny window. Before, it's 2 days of football and then 6 days to take a break, make moves, and get excited again. With the amount of injuries, TNF makes setting lineups a chore and too much of a guessing game.

I absolutely HATE Thursday Night Football.
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Agree completely.

This leads to some of the over saturation as well. One thing that made football special as a sport was how it all happened in (mostly) one day. Then the NFL thought that if one Thursday night game a year was good, wouldn't 17 be 17 times better?

It sucks. Ruins the flow of the fantasy week. Used to be Take a day or two off after the games. See how the injury reports come out. Read up on waiver adds. Float a few trade offers. Get your bids in by the end of the week and set your lineups by 1 on Sunday.

 
McGarnicle said:
It is absolutely an odd couple of weeks to start the season. :shrug:
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Very true---and quite possibly the understatement of the year. It feels like over-saturation mixed with political views that are fueled by social media, on top of just plain crazy football in regards to scoring, injuries, rule changes--etc. I feel like the first couple weeks of this football season has had enough drama for a full year..lol.

 
Back to the main topic, I went into this year as enthusiastic as ever. Pulled off some (hopefully) great trades in my dynasty leagues, prepped for my drafts, excited about my teams and new rookies. Let's get it on!

Now two weeks in, I'm tired off the off the field drama that is ruining the escapism for me, tired of the randomness of injuries and overall less excited than ever just two weeks in.

Maybe some of it is I'm a Giants fan too. :bag:

 
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I burned out on fantasy football a couple years ago, but I'm still in two leagues. Because they are local, live drafts with friends and co-workers.The internet pretty much ruined it for me. An online slow draft is NOT what fantasy football is all about for me. Talk about excrusiating and boring! It all started for me in the 90s by getting together with buddies and talking trash at the draft and all season long, then raising the trophy at the end of the season. The internet took away the human element to the hobby. When that happened I started losing interest.

 
I think, as far as play and injuries go, TC was supposed to be where players got in shape. Ya, it was a pinnacle of injuries but that's where guys got ready to go because, let's be honest, no one is in 60 minute game day shape at all times with exceptions of guys like Rice and Gonzo who more than lived the sport. Now AD sits out all preseason, SJax sneezes wrong and skips all preseason, all starters only play a literal handful of snaps in games. I really think the conditioning level is down for these guys and our true preseason comes weeks 1 thru 3/4. It's leads to weird stuff happening and poor performance on the field.

 
Bojang0301 said:
I think, as far as play and injuries go, TC was supposed to be where players got in shape. Ya, it was a pinnacle of injuries but that's where guys got ready to go because, let's be honest, no one is in 60 minute game day shape at all times with exceptions of guys like Rice and Gonzo who more than lived the sport. Now AD sits out all preseason, SJax sneezes wrong and skips all preseason, all starters only play a literal handful of snaps in games. I really think the conditioning level is down for these guys and our true preseason comes weeks 1 thru 3/4. It's leads to weird stuff happening and poor performance on the field.
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It has also caused a lot of sloppy play. Some of these games are almost unwatchable

 
Bruno2 said:
I burned out on fantasy football a couple years ago, but I'm still in two leagues. Because they are local, live drafts with friends and co-workers.The internet pretty much ruined it for me. An online slow draft is NOT what fantasy football is all about for me. Talk about excrusiating and boring! It all started for me in the 90s by getting together with buddies and talking trash at the draft and all season long, then raising the trophy at the end of the season. The internet took away the human element to the hobby. When that happened I started losing interest.
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That's also a very valid point. I definitely can see how the "internet age" maybe took away some of the essence of fantasy football. I feel like the internet age and the digital age have really had a massive effect on lots of things. I literally know people who can text better than they can speak. In regards to fantasy football--I do have to say that my favorite leagues were in the past where we would do our draft in a friends garage that was converted to a man-cave. The trash talking and the bragging rights were more important than the money..lol.

 
shadyridr said:
Scoring is way down so far
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As of the Bears' last touchdown, there have been 1,326 points scored. If this game and tomorrow night's games hit the O/U, there will have been 1,394 points scored in the first 2 weeks.

In the first 2 weeks last year, the total points scored was 1,430. So scoring looks like it will be down just over 1 point per game.

 
I'll echo the sentiment that Thursday night game being a big negative for ff.

All you usually hear is "who would complain about more football? Well, bad football sucks, and more often than not, the TNF game is terrible. On top of that, it messes with weekly roster cycles, ruins trading possibilities (due to some players being "locked" by Thursday) and sometimes forces premature lineup decisions due to not knowing if "limited" players are playing three days later.

The ritual and anticipation of waiting for Sunday (or Monday) was awesome, now it's less so due to TNF.

 
Amused to Death said:
fruity pebbles said:
And all these friggin flags.......ENOUGH ALREADY
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OMG yes! I know its BS when people say they won't watch the NFL anymore over certain things, but man this is rough to watch. ITS RUINING THE F'N GAME!
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I also hate the replays. When someone scores or gets a turnover, you can't even react to it. The announcers don't get excited as everything is about what does the replay show? The replays aren't even like "look at this great play", it is can we find a super slow motion angle of whether a guy got a foot down. It's awful.
 
Long Ball Larry said:
shadyridr said:
Scoring is way down so far
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As of the Bears' last touchdown, there have been 1,326 points scored. If this game and tomorrow night's games hit the O/U, there will have been 1,394 points scored in the first 2 weeks.

In the first 2 weeks last year, the total points scored was 1,430. So scoring looks like it will be down just over 1 point per game.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I took as scoring in my fantasy leagues is way down. Way, way down.
 
I sat there this afternoon questioning who would watch most of this crap if it wasn't for fantasy football? First, the amount of penalties is ridiculous. Every long incompletion turns into interference. Second, their seems to be a ton if reviews. Third, the amount of commercials is out of control. A good college game now a days blows away a pro game.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
shadyridr said:
Scoring is way down so far
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As of the Bears' last touchdown, there have been 1,326 points scored. If this game and tomorrow night's games hit the O/U, there will have been 1,394 points scored in the first 2 weeks.

In the first 2 weeks last year, the total points scored was 1,430. So scoring looks like it will be down just over 1 point per game.
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talkin about fantasy scoring buddy
 
fantasy stud said:
I sat there this afternoon questioning who would watch most of this crap if it wasn't for fantasy football? First, the amount of penalties is ridiculous. Every long incompletion turns into interference. Second, their seems to be a ton if reviews. Third, the amount of commercials is out of control. A good college game now a days blows away a pro game.That
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That is another great point. It's almost like a disenchanting cycle. It's almost like we are forced to watch a rather inferior product because our love for fantasy football--and for me--it's resulting in me not liking fantasy football as much. This thread has really opened my eyes to some really interesting opinions.

 
When your team sucks in FF its miserable. When your team is good, its slightly enjoyable at time but still miserable because you hate every mistake you make even more.

FF just blows honestly, lol.

 
Nope. I see a similar thread like this one every year. I'm not saying you're not justified to have whatever emotion you're experiencing at any given moment, but I;m saying its not unique.

 
Hooper31 said:
Nope. I see a similar thread like this one every year. I'm not saying you're not justified to have whatever emotion you're experiencing at any given moment, but I;m saying its not unique.
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fair enough. I can't say that I'm all that surprised that I'm not alone in these feelings

 
shadyridr said:
Long Ball Larry said:
shadyridr said:
Scoring is way down so far
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As of the Bears' last touchdown, there have been 1,326 points scored. If this game and tomorrow night's games hit the O/U, there will have been 1,394 points scored in the first 2 weeks.

In the first 2 weeks last year, the total points scored was 1,430. So scoring looks like it will be down just over 1 point per game.
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talkin about fantasy scoring buddy
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A bunch of studs have come up duds this year.

 
Yes....

In my main league I had Rice and AP.....AJ Green got hurt today and I picked up Gordon before last weekend. (All the beaters and druggies yay!) it's 5$ a transaction and I think I've already spent like 35 bucks.

I think I'm dropping Gordon this week, I can't afford the dead roster spot for another 8 weeks. I don't really care if he blows up for somebody else at the end of the year...want to drop AP too just because he's a piece of garbage, I really want all this drama off my roster. Usually I can tolerate one scumbag on my team if it's going to help me win but this year it's off the frigging charts and I really don't like this team at all right now.

Yes all this drama has definitely made football and ff much less enjoyable this season. Overall I feel like an ### whining about my fake football team right now. I do hope that all this attention to abuse gets focused into a more positive direction, I would really like to see the NFL partner with some charities and actually do something to help the victims of child and domestic abuse.

 
SlaX said:
Sounds like you're burned out. Consider taking a year off next season.
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Sometimes you can wrap yourself up into too many leagues. You don't know who to root for because you have so many different players and are facing others that you have in other leagues. Then all the extra time devoted to waivers, Thursday Nights, Sundays, MNF. It all adds up. Maybe consider doing only 1 or 2 leagues and see if that helps.

 
nastynate said:
Enjoying DFS much more than leagues at this point. Down to a single league.
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I think someone stated a similar thread about this and I'm seriously considering going this way next year.

So much of this is luck, but at least I wouldn't have to deal with the suspensions and lengthy injuries, a lot of the frustrations, with DFS.

 
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