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Dolphins Now Willing To Trade Ricky (1 Viewer)
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Now Ricky has value. It will still take a huge amount of chutzpah for a NFL GM to take a chance only 1 year removed from his search for inner peace, or the center of the universe, or the business end of a hooka, or whatever it was he was searching for when he dumped all over MIA - but MIA did allow Williams to show he can still be a solid force in the league when he's serious.
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bostonfred
Footballguy
Over half the league could be in the running for a top running back:New EnglandArizonaSan FranciscoGreen BayCarolinaTennesseeMinnesotaDenverJacksonvilleNew York JetsHoustonDallas PittsburghClevelandIndySeattlePhiladelphia
I can't see any team giving up a 1st, 2nd or 3rd rd pick for Ricky for the following reasons . . .1. He's one positive drug test away from a year long suspension2. Every knows he just quit on his team last year. What will stop him from doing it again?3. He seems happy "sharing" the spot light with Ronnie right now. I don't think he wants to be "the" guy.I also think he's worth more to the Dolphins than a 4th rd pick. He's one of the weirdest dudes on the planet but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's a very good RB.Some team will have to make Saban a very good offer for him to consider it.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I know that Miami would probably not trade within the division but as a Jet fan I would love Ricky, especially at that price tag! How about Jets deal the #4 pick for Miami's #16, Ricky and a 2nd rd pick. As for FF - Ricky in a feature role is instantly a decent #1 very solid #2 RB. Right now I have him as my #3 for cheap!!!
Godsbrother
Footballguy
There is no way he'll end up with Pittsburgh for three reasons:1) The Steelers will not bring in a guy with William's history.I also own him in a dynasty league. Wouldn't it be great if he was traded to Pittsburgh.Move over LJ
2) The Steelers would not offer anywhere near what others would likely offer
3) The Steelers are happy with Parker. They may be in the market for a brusier type back, but Parker will be the starter.
packersfan
Footballguy
Given how he proved, in my opinion, to be the team's best RB this season I'd think Dolphin fans would be quite thrilled if he ended up staying put.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
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Family Matters
Footballguy
Miami is in an excellent position with Ricky. But I'm afraid the only thing they can do is trade him. Get what they can for him. It will not work to keep him. With Brown the guy of the future, with Ricky's value higher than ever, why not trade him for something? They will not get a 1st but they might get a 2nd or 3rd. The reason isn't because of Ricky's past, it's because RB's are a dime a dozen right now. There are more RB's then there are teams that "think" or "want" to pay for a RB. We saw it last year and it hasn't changed much since.So if Miami wants to create the best case scenario, trade him now and get something of value. They will look like geniuses for bringing him back and getting a good year and a good pick while saving a ton of money in the process. Meanwhile their top pick is happy and the fans feel good about recovering from a bad situation.
Gore 
radiohead417
Footballguy
My money is on Ricky Williams to Jacksonville.
perry147
Footballguy
The only team I see that would take a renagade like Ricky would be the RAIDERS and they already have Jordon so that is not going to happen. Moreover the FA market again will have plenty of RB talent whom have less baggage than Ricky which hurts his value.The Dolphins want at least a third rounder for him and few teams if any will be willing to lose out on that high of a draft choice for him.Ricky will be a Fin next year.
valhallan
Footballguy
Actually, I seem to remember the Patriots taking a chance on an old, rebellious RB a few years ago. Eerily similar situations, though Miami has to be smart enough not to trade in the division.I would think they'd like to get a quarterback if possible, so who's available?
Jax - Garrard? Maybe, but Leftwich's injury history is troublesome
Jets - Pennington? Not likely, plus it's in the division
Oak - Collins? They don't need a RB
SD - Rivers/Brees? See Oak
Ten - Volek? Smells of AJ Feeley
Arz - Warner? Could work, they definitely need a RB
Atl - Schaub? See Jax
Det - Harrington? Maybe but they're probably not done with KJ so soon
GB - Favre? Looks ideal but most think Favre won't go anywhere else
Min - Culpepper? I could see this happening, especially with the new owner trying to make changes
NO - Brooks? Good for Miami, bad for NO
TB - Griese? Been done before
So my short list in order of likelihood would be:
Minnesota
Arizona
Jacksonville
Green Bay
Englishteacher
Footballguy
I was about to give up and say quite simply that none of these things were going to happen. You've had the best idea yet.Englishteacher
Footballguy
You mean like Ricky? ------- I agee with you though, no way they trade Favre for Ricky. That'd be the biggest gaffe in league history, the best character player of my generation for the worst (OK, maybe not the worst, but if the packers go for Ricky, they have to sign T.O. too.)
nathanbalboa
Footballguy
As a Green Bay fan, I would like to see the Packers get him. No way they would trade Favre to do it, but maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick.I wouldn't be suprised if the Vikings made a move to get him either.
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Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
I doubt LenDale drops to the 3rd round.Pittsburgh's next star RB will be LenDale White.I also own him in a dynasty league. Wouldn't it be great if he was traded to Pittsburgh.
Gatorman
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The gist of it is that Saban said that anyone on the team can be had if the price is right. He also intimated that Ronnie's Growth as a RB could be hindered if Ricky was still around. Miami is sitting pretty here. If someone gives Miami a good pick for RW, then it is a win win as long as ricky doesn't go off again. If no one steps up, then Miami gets to keep a strong quick RB as a backup to Ronnie brown without it costing a lot.Miami's Offensive needs are on the line and at QB. If trading RW can solve either of those problems (GARRARD!) (or with a Draft pick that allows us to draft an OT), then he has helped us either way.Fact is that the only player Miami won't trade is Zach Thomas. Even JT can be had for a price.
Maelstrom
Footballguy
The Vikings SEEM to be in a good position to go after RWilliams, but people seem to be forgetting the two reasons they won't:1) They already have a guy that's been suspended for a year, and wouldn't want 2 on the roster that could be gone for a year each (not saying OSmith would necessarily come back, but even just that having happened to Minn recently makes this unlikely, IMO).2) The team owner is very much about a new cleaned up code of conduct. Why would they bring in an admitted pot-smoker when they are trying to IMPROVE team image. People may point to KRob, but he was brought in on a zero-tolerance type 1 year deal, and they wouldn't be able to get Ricky on the same type of deal - you can't trade Cpep or high picks away for a guy that you are gonna put a zero-tolerance policy on.Minn SEEMS like a good fit, but I doubt it. Now if Linehan somehows ends up back in Minn, maybe then he convinces the owner to take a chance on Ricky, but the trade would not involve Culpepper then either.
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C
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Agreed.There is no way he'll end up with Pittsburgh for three reasons:1) The Steelers will not bring in a guy with William's history.I also own him in a dynasty league. Wouldn't it be great if he was traded to Pittsburgh.
2) The Steelers would not offer anywhere near what others would likely offer
3) The Steelers are happy with Parker. They may be in the market for a brusier type back, but Parker will be the starter.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
I agree this is true, but not necessarily before the 2006 season.He will have the same amount of value, IMO, and remain a nice piece of insurance for 2006, if they look to move him during the 2006 season or after.
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Family Matters
Footballguy
You make a good point Bu I was thinking he would be easier to trade before teams are settled on their RB's. Before the draft affords them the better options for a win-win trade with another team. Another scenario is making a head up player for player trade. Not sure who but it's another possibility. One possibility would be Cpep for Williams. If Minn wants to get rid of Cpep bad enough they might consider this. After all Saban said he wants to upgrade the QB position and Linehan and Cpep have worked together before.
redman
Footballguy
Most think he won't declare for the draft to begin with, and instead will remain at 'SC with its still-potent offense as their feature back for his senior year. Smart move if he does it IMHO.I doubt LenDale drops to the 3rd round.Pittsburgh's next star RB will be LenDale White.I also own him in a dynasty league. Wouldn't it be great if he was traded to Pittsburgh.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
most injured position in football = RB.That statement means it is better to hold onto Ricky unless blown away by an offer and, conversely, that the need for RBs will still be there after teams "settle" their RB situations in the draft.I do agree that trading UP in this draft by packaging Ricky with the first to try to get into the top-12 is something the team should strongly consider - the phins need offensive tackles badly, and trading into the top-12 should garner a franchise LT - also a very fine QB should be available anywhere in the top-12. Finally, the phins need a young LB of the future- a DJ Williams type - and they need him now.Sitting pat at #16 might see the team lose their chance at all the elite players at all three positions.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
I think he stays at SC - a year as "the man" at SC = top12 spot in 2007 draft. Coming out now, he might not even get drafted in the 1st two roundsMost think he won't declare for the draft to begin with, and instead will remain at 'SC with its still-potent offense as their feature back for his senior year. Smart move if he does it IMHO.I doubt LenDale drops to the 3rd round.Pittsburgh's next star RB will be LenDale White.I also own him in a dynasty league. Wouldn't it be great if he was traded to Pittsburgh.
Preacher 1
Footballguy
There is absolutely no chance of this happening for several reasons, most of which Maelstrom has already pointed out. The main reason is that the Vikings are committed to C-Pep, now and in the future. He is the QB, end of story. Brad Johnson is 37 years old and a step above mediocre...behind him there is nothing. So the need for a QB far outweighs the need for a RB.The Vikes are far more likely to spend some of the 20 million or so that they'll have under the cap for a free agent RB, or an injury rehab project.
