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THIS article from Yahoo! provides the sure fire ways to having a success draft. Comments?

Dominating Draft Day

By Brad Evans

June 14, 2006

"Before anything else, preparation is the key to success" – Alexander Graham Bell

Ah, draft night! Everyone arrives with a stack full of resources, cold beer and a head crammed with countless player names – and maybe a phonetic pronunciation guide so you don't butcher T.J. Houshmandzadeh's name. You take a seat beside your buddy and talk about life, family and whether Jessica Alba or Eva Longoria is hotter. Then it begins. Your heart rate increases. Your leg begins to nervously twitch. And you pray to some higher power that Lamont Jordan falls to you at pick eleven – did you prepare?

Every fantasy football expert will tell you that building a championship team begins and ends on draft day. Widely accepted as the most popular of fantasy sports, football can be the easiest to dominate by following simple draft guidelines and strategies. Below is a comprehensive list of ten drafting tips in order for you to tower over your feeble-minded opponents en route to capturing the gridiron gold.

The tips below are based on the following yardage based scoring system:

6 points for every receiving/rushing touchdown

4 points for every passing touchdown

1 point for every 10 receiving/rushing yards

1 point for every 20 yards passing

Tip 1 – Running Back Wild

Running backs are the quintessential cornerstone for winning any fantasy championship. Some publications and websites will tell you time and time again to take the best player on the board, but if it's not a running back in the early rounds, don't buy it. In order to win in standard leagues, you must draft two solid backs in the first two rounds, period. If you have a drafting conundrum and you have to decide between Randy Moss and Domanick Davis, go running back. If you find yourself in a bind in the middle rounds, pondering whether you should take Cedric Benson or a second marginal receiver a la Drew Bennett, go running back. If you are drafting in the late rounds and you think you need a backup quarterback, take a fifth running back instead. Running Backs get the touches – typically 150 per year or more than wide receivers – gain the yards, and score the rushing touchdowns more often than any other fantasy football position. Their trade value is worth their weight in gold and with injuries happening to major players every season, stockpiling them in August will fill your inbox with trade offers come November.

Tip 2 – Quarterback Restraint

Every year someone in your draft-room gets overly excited for the services of the fragile and erratic Michael Vick. And every year they get burned. Fantasy championships can be won with a mediocre second- or third-tier quarterback. Trust me. Six years ago I won my 14-team league championship with Jon Kitna, who completed more passes to safeties rather than receivers in 2000. Using my draft strategy won't net you the perceived top tier, but after Round 7, several high upside players like Kurt Warner, Drew Brees and Jake Delhomme will probably be available and are the perfect complement to any strong running back tandem. Last season, the top three gunslingers, Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady averaged 17-19 points per week. Meanwhile, later draft day selections, Drew Brees, Jake Plummer and Drew Bledsoe notched totals around 15 points per week. Not that big of a difference. Concentrate on selecting solid running backs and wide receivers instead with your first four picks and pounce on quarterback values later in your draft.

Tip 3 – Overpaying for Wideouts Equals Fantasy Fallout

Other than leagues that score points per reception, the earliest a wide receiver should be selected is with your Round 3 pick. Several of your opponents will think that landing Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, or Torry Holt is the ultimate coup early in the draft. Don't be that guy. Wide receivers, unlike running backs, are consistently inconsistent. They are a rollercoaster ride of boom and bust that can only be trusted for weekly maximum performance against weak secondaries, or in prolific passing offenses. Case in point, the top five receivers of 2005 – Steve Smith, Larry Fitzgerald, Santana Moss, Chad Johnson, and Joey Galloway – averaged 4.4 games of 75 yards or less with zero touchdowns. Outside of Willis McGahee, Willie Parker and Reuben Droughns, no other top 15 running back totaled more than four remedial games. Remember, a good WR will average seven plus targets per game, compared to a versatile back that accumulates 25-35 touches each Sunday. Focus on receivers who yield a high YAC (Yards After Catch), get a large number of looks and are involved in pass-happy offensive philosophies. Anquan Boldin, Reggie Wayne and Donald Driver all fit the bill, and are superior values for Rounds 3-5.

Tip 4 – If His Name Ain't Gates, Wait

Last year, one of the owners in my local 12-team league drafted Tony Gonzalez with his Round 3 pick. Just to refresh everyone's fogged memories, Gonzo managed to stay healthy, but finished seventh among tight ends and 166th overall, averaging a disappointing 5.9 points per week. Last season, only Antonio Gates broke the century mark in total fantasy points scored, finishing 70th overall. Other than the superfluous Gates, tight ends are the most overrated position in fantasy football. Instead of jumping the gun early, hold off and select a Vernon Davis or Zachary Hilton after Round 9. Remember where Chris Cooley was drafted last season? Where did he finish? That's right, fifth at his position. Like closers in baseball, they can wait.

Tip 5 – Always Carry Handcuffs

If you are a veteran of fantasy football you know that when a starting RB is injured everyone combs the waiver wire for the successor like Dracula in search of virgin blood. Avoid the pain and suffering of a possible devastating injury to your fantasy team and draft their backups in the mid-to-late rounds. Carolina's DeAngelo Williams, Detroit's Brian Calhoun, and Dallas' Marion Barber should be hogtied, super-glued, welded, to DeShaun Foster and the Joneses. Acquiring brittle backs and not handcuffing their back-ups is going to battle without a sword. Just ask every Priest Holmes owner from 2005. Play it smart and pick up the second in command.

Tip 6 – Rookie QBs and WRs are a Brain Tease

Just because the Vince Youngs of the world go high in the NFL draft doesn't mean they are draftable. The quarterback position has an incredible development curve that forces inexperienced players to adjust to a new level. When Peyton Manning was thrown into the NFL fire as a rookie in 1998 he averaged a sensational 233.7 YPG and 1.53 passing TDs per game, but his 28 interceptions were brutal. Arguably the best rookie campaign by an NFL quarterback was in 1983 by "Mr. Isotoner" Dan Marino. That season Marino played eleven games – he started nine – and averaged 200.9 YPG, while totaling 20 TD passes with 6 INTs. Marino and Peyton were very rare commodities when they transitioned from the college to the pro game. Likewise for receivers, only Anquan Boldin and Michael Clayton have eclipsed the 1,000-mark in their initial campaigns over the past five years. In general, most rookie quarterbacks and receivers take roughly two-to-three years to adjust to the fast-paced NFL style. Using this mode of thinking makes drafting an experienced Samie Parker over a Santonio Holmes sensible. Avoid the temptation.

Tip 7 – Defense and Kickers are Great Late

Two years ago in my 14-team league, a close friend of mine – impaired by obvious mental deficiencies – selected the Tennessee Titans defense in Round 3. Unless you want to be viewed by your league-mates as an individual of questionable intellect, never, ever, select a defense or kicker until at least Round 10. Sure, a kicker of Neil Rackers proportions, or a tenacious defense like the Bears can sometimes make all of the difference in any given week. However, in most leagues, a predominant number of defenses, and especially kickers, score marginal points on a weekly basis. Employing a streaming tactic for defenses can also be very beneficial. This entails picking up a defense with a favorable matchup off waivers and plugging them into your lineup. Last season, two of the worst fantasy defenses, the Raiders and Saints, each compiled killer weeks against a bumbling Bills offense. If you do your homework weekly, you can reap major benefits without having to waste an early pick. When everyone's reaching for the Seattle defense in Round 10, you can concentrate on adding depth to your primary positions.

Tip 8 – Don't Sing the Bye Week Blues

How many times have you sat in a draft and realized midway through that both of your starting running backs and your quarterback have the same bye week? Usually, excessive amounts of explicit remarks ensue, followed by nausea and an uncontrollable urge to vomit. How do you solve this? Always take the best player on the board in any situation, but if you can, try to avoid selecting too many players with the same bye week. In many instances, when owners suffer from the bye week blues they simply mail-in a loss, or desperately scour a bare waiver wire in search of a suspect replacement. Draft day is the time to address bye week conundrums. All it takes is one game to squash your hopes of a championship run. Be prepared, have a list of each NFL team's bye weeks next to you on draft day.

Tip 9 – Understand Coaching Philosophies

Denny Green loves to pass, Bill Cowher loves to run and Brian Billick depends on a hard-nosed defense. Clearly, understanding the basic offensive schemes a team implements can correlate into fantasy success. For example, Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz plans on instituting a spread offense that made the Rams the "Greatest Show on Turf." What does this mean? Jon Kitna could be very serviceable in a system required to throw a number of balls downfield. With an established pass catcher in Roy Williams and two young, athletic receivers in Charles Rogers and Mike Williams, and a very good running attack spearheaded by Kevin Jones, Kitna could be in store for a resurgent season based on the peripherals. Should you depend on him as your QB1 like I did six years ago? Only if you enjoy the thrills of nude recreational cliff diving. All jokes aside, the system makes him a potential 20-TD late-round backup. It's these type of wee-hour surprises that makes owners chumps or champions. Reading up on each team's offensive philosophies will give you an edge on draft day by letting you know who will put up the points and who won't.

Tip 10 – Plan Ahead

In 2005, Thomas Jones and Ricky Williams were difference makers during the fantasy playoffs. Did you have them? Both were mid-round draft picks at best last season that led many owners to prominence. Why did they outperform top names like LaDainian Tomlinson, Edgerrin James and LaMont Jordan when it counted the most? Simply put, because of matchups. In the salary cap age of the NFL it takes at least a couple of seasons for team defenses to rebuild. This means that teams that are typically bad against the run last season will sing the same sad song this year. Since 2003, Oakland, Houston, New Orleans, Cincinnati and Cleveland have all ranked in the bottom ten in defending the run. Since the Indianapolis Colts play at Jacksonville, Cincinnati and at Houston in weeks 14-16, Dominic Rhodes – my pick to land the starting job – and rookie sensation Joseph Addai should be upgraded on draft day cheat sheets due to their favourable late-season slate. Prior to draft day, grab a schedule and peruse the most important weeks of the fantasy season. Planning ahead and exploiting matchups may be all the difference you need when it counts the most.

Whether you step into a draft room physically or virtually, always remember that draft night should be fun, exciting, and entertaining. If you plan on talking smack, back it up with a simple draft plan. By following the tips described above, you are one giant step ahead of the competition!
 
Thanks again, Yahoo! for another article that taught me absolutley nothing that i dind't already know.

 
Thanks again, Yahoo! for another article that taught me absolutley nothing that i dind't already know.
:shrug: think of their audience, now think of FBG's. If this article were news to most people here, they're in trouble.

I've often wondered though, how much of the "RB wild" is a self-perpetuating myth? If everyone else is drafting RBs in the first 24 picks, of course there will be better value elsewhere later, and you'll probably miss out on a stud RB. Now, let's say everyone drafted stud WRs in the 1st and 2nd. You'd miss out on one too unless you used your pick to get one.

Obviously there's reasons for the stud RB theory, but it seems a lot of it is cyclical.

 
Frankly, good article for fantasy football newbies. We were all there at one time or another. However, for most of us... :yawn:

 
If this kind of article gets people's juices flowing to play fantasy football, that's great.

Maybe a few will take it seriously and come over here eventually

 
Its a pretty decent article for most folks who play on yahoo leagues. I liked the section regarding top performing WRs. I didnt know the stat regarding down games vs other top picks. As time goes by, Im becomine more and more risk adverse in the top 5 rounds.

 
If this kind of article gets people's juices flowing to play fantasy football, that's great.

Maybe a few will take it seriously and come over here eventually
That's exactly my take.Everyone has to begin somewhere--you're not born knowing all the intricacies of this stuff.

 
This is the progression:

1. I hear FF is the coming thing, how do I get in?

2. Is there a free league?

3. Yahoo is it.

4. What's a draft?

5. Hmmm, kickers score the most.

6. Grab the top QB.

7. Didn't do too well with M. Faulk and F. Taylor in 2005, finished 11th.

8. What's my strategy for this year?

9. Good Yahoo article.

10. Hmmm, finished 8th in 2006.

11. What's the best site out there?

12. FBG's is it.

13. Finished 4th in 2007.

14. How do I dominate in 2008?

15. Buy the FBG package.

 
Its a pretty decent article for most folks who play on yahoo leagues. I liked the section regarding top performing WRs. I didnt know the stat regarding down games vs other top picks.
I regularly do this, every year and got some stats on my website showing this for WRs. I don't like the % angle and prefer the ratio of good games to bad games....IE don't do the math for me, just leave the results. I think it was a quick article and that's why it was simple. I don't think it was meant for beginners but agree it wound up that way. I'd bet one of the guys here could have done a similar article. I don't understand the "dominate" part though. If you're gonna be elementary and not get into any topic all that much how can you be teaching guys to dominate?

 
Simplistic, yes. I bolded some of the more dumb statements. TEs are overrated? You can argue that they are hard to predict beyond Gates, but if anything TEs are undervalued if you are required to start one. Gonzalez wasn't a dumb pick in the 3rd round last year. He just ended up having an off year after leading the league in receptions the year before. And it's highly debatable whether you should waste roster spots on backups.

Dominating Draft Day By Brad Evans

June 14, 2006

"Before anything else, preparation is the key to success" – Alexander Graham Bell

Ah, draft night! Everyone arrives with a stack full of resources, cold beer and a head crammed with countless player names – and maybe a phonetic pronunciation guide so you don't butcher T.J. Houshmandzadeh's name. You take a seat beside your buddy and talk about life, family and whether Jessica Alba or Eva Longoria is hotter. Then it begins. Your heart rate increases. Your leg begins to nervously twitch. And you pray to some higher power that Lamont Jordan falls to you at pick eleven – did you prepare?

Every fantasy football expert will tell you that building a championship team begins and ends on draft day. Widely accepted as the most popular of fantasy sports, football can be the easiest to dominate by following simple draft guidelines and strategies. Below is a comprehensive list of ten drafting tips in order for you to tower over your feeble-minded opponents en route to capturing the gridiron gold.

The tips below are based on the following yardage based scoring system:

6 points for every receiving/rushing touchdown

4 points for every passing touchdown

1 point for every 10 receiving/rushing yards

1 point for every 20 yards passing

Tip 1 – Running Back Wild

Running backs are the quintessential cornerstone for winning any fantasy championship. Some publications and websites will tell you time and time again to take the best player on the board, but if it's not a running back in the early rounds, don't buy it. In order to win in standard leagues, you must draft two solid backs in the first two rounds, period. If you have a drafting conundrum and you have to decide between Randy Moss and Domanick Davis, go running back. If you find yourself in a bind in the middle rounds, pondering whether you should take Cedric Benson or a second marginal receiver a la Drew Bennett, go running back. If you are drafting in the late rounds and you think you need a backup quarterback, take a fifth running back instead. Running Backs get the touches – typically 150 per year or more than wide receivers – gain the yards, and score the rushing touchdowns more often than any other fantasy football position. Their trade value is worth their weight in gold and with injuries happening to major players every season, stockpiling them in August will fill your inbox with trade offers come November.

Tip 2 – Quarterback Restraint

Every year someone in your draft-room gets overly excited for the services of the fragile and erratic Michael Vick. And every year they get burned. Fantasy championships can be won with a mediocre second- or third-tier quarterback. Trust me. Six years ago I won my 14-team league championship with Jon Kitna, who completed more passes to safeties rather than receivers in 2000. Using my draft strategy won't net you the perceived top tier, but after Round 7, several high upside players like Kurt Warner, Drew Brees and Jake Delhomme will probably be available and are the perfect complement to any strong running back tandem. Last season, the top three gunslingers, Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady averaged 17-19 points per week. Meanwhile, later draft day selections, Drew Brees, Jake Plummer and Drew Bledsoe notched totals around 15 points per week. Not that big of a difference. Concentrate on selecting solid running backs and wide receivers instead with your first four picks and pounce on quarterback values later in your draft.

Tip 3 – Overpaying for Wideouts Equals Fantasy Fallout

Other than leagues that score points per reception, the earliest a wide receiver should be selected is with your Round 3 pick. Several of your opponents will think that landing Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, or Torry Holt is the ultimate coup early in the draft. Don't be that guy. Wide receivers, unlike running backs, are consistently inconsistent. They are a rollercoaster ride of boom and bust that can only be trusted for weekly maximum performance against weak secondaries, or in prolific passing offenses. Case in point, the top five receivers of 2005 – Steve Smith, Larry Fitzgerald, Santana Moss, Chad Johnson, and Joey Galloway – averaged 4.4 games of 75 yards or less with zero touchdowns. Outside of Willis McGahee, Willie Parker and Reuben Droughns, no other top 15 running back totaled more than four remedial games. Remember, a good WR will average seven plus targets per game, compared to a versatile back that accumulates 25-35 touches each Sunday. Focus on receivers who yield a high YAC (Yards After Catch), get a large number of looks and are involved in pass-happy offensive philosophies. Anquan Boldin, Reggie Wayne and Donald Driver all fit the bill, and are superior values for Rounds 3-5.

Tip 4 – If His Name Ain't Gates, Wait

Last year, one of the owners in my local 12-team league drafted Tony Gonzalez with his Round 3 pick. Just to refresh everyone's fogged memories, Gonzo managed to stay healthy, but finished seventh among tight ends and 166th overall, averaging a disappointing 5.9 points per week. Last season, only Antonio Gates broke the century mark in total fantasy points scored, finishing 70th overall. Other than the superfluous Gates, tight ends are the most overrated position in fantasy football. Instead of jumping the gun early, hold off and select a Vernon Davis or Zachary Hilton after Round 9. Remember where Chris Cooley was drafted last season? Where did he finish? That's right, fifth at his position. Like closers in baseball, they can wait.

Tip 5 – Always Carry Handcuffs

If you are a veteran of fantasy football you know that when a starting RB is injured everyone combs the waiver wire for the successor like Dracula in search of virgin blood. Avoid the pain and suffering of a possible devastating injury to your fantasy team and draft their backups in the mid-to-late rounds. Carolina's DeAngelo Williams, Detroit's Brian Calhoun, and Dallas' Marion Barber should be hogtied, super-glued, welded, to DeShaun Foster and the Joneses. Acquiring brittle backs and not handcuffing their back-ups is going to battle without a sword. Just ask every Priest Holmes owner from 2005. Play it smart and pick up the second in command.
 
Dominating Draft Day

By Brad Evans

June 14, 2006

Every fantasy football expert will tell you that building a championship team begins and ends on draft day.
This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read this year. In my experience, you can make the playoffs with the guys you draft, but it's the guys you pick up / trade for that win you the playoffs.
 
This article is a great example of why I choose FBGs.

It isn't that the content is bad or wrong. It's that the article just tells people the state of things are in a normal league seutp. Here at FBGs, they concentrate on showing you the WHY as much as the WHAT. Show you how to think for yourself, and how to find out what strategies are most likely to succeed regardless of the league's parameters.

 
Looks like a very good introductory article to me. I don't like handcuffs, but I know lots of people do. Other than that, I'd recommend it to someone just starting in FF.

 
Thanks again, Yahoo! for another article that taught me absolutley nothing that i dind't already know.
:shrug: think of their audience, now think of FBG's. If this article were news to most people here, they're in trouble.

I've often wondered though, how much of the "RB wild" is a self-perpetuating myth? If everyone else is drafting RBs in the first 24 picks, of course there will be better value elsewhere later, and you'll probably miss out on a stud RB. Now, let's say everyone drafted stud WRs in the 1st and 2nd. You'd miss out on one too unless you used your pick to get one.

Obviously there's reasons for the stud RB theory, but it seems a lot of it is cyclical.
It definitely is a contributing factor, and it's one of those reasons that the mantra is that VBD is a tool to provide input to a decision, not making the decision for you. VBD focuses heavily on the supply of players and the demand of starting lineups, but it neglects the true depletion rate of one position vs the other.In a standard league setup, RBs do make enough of a difference that you probably would still be better off going with them over the WRs if there was a WR run. However if they are being taken like RBs are, it does move them up higher in the priority to your team if you're going to maximize your points.

 
Thanks again, Yahoo! for another article that taught me absolutley nothing that i dind't already know.
:shrug: think of their audience, now think of FBG's. If this article were news to most people here, they're in trouble.

I've often wondered though, how much of the "RB wild" is a self-perpetuating myth? If everyone else is drafting RBs in the first 24 picks, of course there will be better value elsewhere later, and you'll probably miss out on a stud RB. Now, let's say everyone drafted stud WRs in the 1st and 2nd. You'd miss out on one too unless you used your pick to get one.

Obviously there's reasons for the stud RB theory, but it seems a lot of it is cyclical.
Agreed. Try playing in a guppy league with a bunch of fantasy first-timers sometime. Go ahead and stick to your "RBs are gods!" strategy and see where it gets you. Draft Larry Johnson with your first pick, and you think you're off to a good start. When the 2nd/3rd turn rolls around, grab Steven Jackson and Ronnie Brown and rejoice at your good fortune in managing to lock up 3 of the top 10 backs. Then, when the 5th/6th rolls around, survey the field and notice that Dominick Davis, Julius Jones, and Reuben Droughns are all still around, while the best remaining WR is Andre Johnson and the best remaining QB is Billy Volek. Suddenly, you see the guy drafting right next to you take his first RB of the draft in the 5th and 6th... and still manage to end up with DomDavis and Droughns... while you're forced to draft a WR corps of Andre Johnson, Muhsin Muhammed, and Reggie Brown, and hope that they're enough, combined with Chris Simms and Billy Volek, to keep you afloat. You watch with tears in your eyes as everyone is getting top-24 RBs well into the 9th round, and you're desperately trying to hold your roster together with chewing gum and twine. That is a shark's idea of hell- where he can do everything perfectly by the book and wind up with the worst team in a league full of idiots and half-wits.As odd as it sounds, a large reason why RBs are in such high demand is because RBs are in such high demand. Play in a league where RBs are treated like kickers, and you'd be best served treating RBs like kickers, too, if you don't want to wind up in Shark Hell.

 
Thanks again, Yahoo! for another article that taught me absolutley nothing that i dind't already know.
:shrug: think of their audience, now think of FBG's. If this article were news to most people here, they're in trouble.

I've often wondered though, how much of the "RB wild" is a self-perpetuating myth? If everyone else is drafting RBs in the first 24 picks, of course there will be better value elsewhere later, and you'll probably miss out on a stud RB. Now, let's say everyone drafted stud WRs in the 1st and 2nd. You'd miss out on one too unless you used your pick to get one.

Obviously there's reasons for the stud RB theory, but it seems a lot of it is cyclical.
Agreed. Try playing in a guppy league with a bunch of fantasy first-timers sometime. Go ahead and stick to your "RBs are gods!" strategy and see where it gets you. Draft Larry Johnson with your first pick, and you think you're off to a good start. When the 2nd/3rd turn rolls around, grab Steven Jackson and Ronnie Brown and rejoice at your good fortune in managing to lock up 3 of the top 10 backs. Then, when the 5th/6th rolls around, survey the field and notice that Dominick Davis, Julius Jones, and Reuben Droughns are all still around, while the best remaining WR is Andre Johnson and the best remaining QB is Billy Volek. Suddenly, you see the guy drafting right next to you take his first RB of the draft in the 5th and 6th... and still manage to end up with DomDavis and Droughns... while you're forced to draft a WR corps of Andre Johnson, Muhsin Muhammed, and Reggie Brown, and hope that they're enough, combined with Chris Simms and Billy Volek, to keep you afloat. You watch with tears in your eyes as everyone is getting top-24 RBs well into the 9th round, and you're desperately trying to hold your roster together with chewing gum and twine. That is a shark's idea of hell- where he can do everything perfectly by the book and wind up with the worst team in a league full of idiots and half-wits.As odd as it sounds, a large reason why RBs are in such high demand is because RBs are in such high demand. Play in a league where RBs are treated like kickers, and you'd be best served treating RBs like kickers, too, if you don't want to wind up in Shark Hell.
Very good post, and I've been in this situation, had 5 top 15 RBs in a 12 team league, but was stuck starting bad WRs and had to grab a QB off waivers, thankfully Brunell was available. I ended up in 5th place despite having stud RBs, because nobody wanted to trade.
 
THIS article from Yahoo! provides the sure fire ways to having a success draft.  Comments?

Tip 1 – Running Back Wild

Running backs are the quintessential cornerstone for winning any fantasy championship. Some publications and websites will tell you time and time again to take the best player on the board, but if it's not a running back in the early rounds, don't buy it. In order to win in standard leagues, you must draft two solid backs in the first two rounds, period. If you have a drafting conundrum and you have to decide between Randy Moss and Domanick Davis, go running back. If you find yourself in a bind in the middle rounds, pondering whether you should take Cedric Benson or a second marginal receiver a la Drew Bennett, go running back. If you are drafting in the late rounds and you think you need a backup quarterback, take a fifth running back instead. Running Backs get the touches – typically 150 per year or more than wide receivers – gain the yards, and score the rushing touchdowns more often than any other fantasy football position. Their trade value is worth their weight in gold and with injuries happening to major players every season, stockpiling them in August will fill your inbox with trade offers come November.
:confused: Stopped reading after this section.

Thanks again, Yahoo! for another article that taught me absolutley nothing that i dind't already know.
:shrug: think of their audience, now think of FBG's. If this article were news to most people here, they're in trouble.

I've often wondered though, how much of the "RB wild" is a self-perpetuating myth? If everyone else is drafting RBs in the first 24 picks, of course there will be better value elsewhere later, and you'll probably miss out on a stud RB. Now, let's say everyone drafted stud WRs in the 1st and 2nd. You'd miss out on one too unless you used your pick to get one.

Obviously there's reasons for the stud RB theory, but it seems a lot of it is cyclical.
Agreed. Try playing in a guppy league with a bunch of fantasy first-timers sometime. Go ahead and stick to your "RBs are gods!" strategy and see where it gets you. Draft Larry Johnson with your first pick, and you think you're off to a good start. When the 2nd/3rd turn rolls around, grab Steven Jackson and Ronnie Brown and rejoice at your good fortune in managing to lock up 3 of the top 10 backs. Then, when the 5th/6th rolls around, survey the field and notice that Dominick Davis, Julius Jones, and Reuben Droughns are all still around, while the best remaining WR is Andre Johnson and the best remaining QB is Billy Volek. Suddenly, you see the guy drafting right next to you take his first RB of the draft in the 5th and 6th... and still manage to end up with DomDavis and Droughns... while you're forced to draft a WR corps of Andre Johnson, Muhsin Muhammed, and Reggie Brown, and hope that they're enough, combined with Chris Simms and Billy Volek, to keep you afloat. You watch with tears in your eyes as everyone is getting top-24 RBs well into the 9th round, and you're desperately trying to hold your roster together with chewing gum and twine. That is a shark's idea of hell- where he can do everything perfectly by the book and wind up with the worst team in a league full of idiots and half-wits.As odd as it sounds, a large reason why RBs are in such high demand is because RBs are in such high demand. Play in a league where RBs are treated like kickers, and you'd be best served treating RBs like kickers, too, if you don't want to wind up in Shark Hell.
Exactly. :goodposting:
 
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im in a 16 team league, and last year i got burned by the stud RB thgeory. I drafted 14th of 16, with dillon in the first and k jones in the 2nd. Both should have been already drafted by that point according to FBG and FFI. The guy that drafted chad johnson and marvin harrison in the late 2nd early 3rd finished 2nd in the league. At some point, dont top wrs become more consistent than mediocre starting Rbs? Or was it just bad luck on my part to draft two underperformers?

 
im in a 16 team league, and last year i got burned by the stud RB thgeory. I drafted 14th of 16, with dillon in the first and k jones in the 2nd. Both should have been already drafted by that point according to FBG and FFI. The guy that drafted chad johnson and marvin harrison in the late 2nd early 3rd finished 2nd in the league. At some point, dont top wrs become more consistent than mediocre starting Rbs? Or was it just bad luck on my part to draft two underperformers?
:yes: Don't believe anything that is as generic as "In order to win in standard leagues, you must draft two solid backs in the first two rounds, period." Would you acually take Dunn, C. Taylor, T. Jones, R. Bush, or D. McAllister over stud WRs like Owen, Johnson, Moss, or Holt. I don't think so. You could take D. Foster in the 3rd and R. Dayne in the 7th to match the production of prior mentioned RBs. I like to do the opposite of what everyone else does in my league. While everyone else is using their 1st and 2nd on "must have" RBs, I'll gladly take the top stud WRs with my 2nd and 3rd, and grab the RBs who'll out perform their ADP (while your getting your WRs) with my 4th.

 
Remember, a good WR will average seven plus targets per game, compared to a versatile back that accumulates 25-35 touches each Sunday.
I'm surprised noone noticed this fascinating peice of inforation?!

"A good WR averaging 7+ targets/game?"

There was about THIRTY or so of these WRs last year.

"A versatile back that accumilates 25-35 touches each Sunday?"

Well, Tiki and Edge were the only ones averaging 25/game in 2005 (also LJ had 25+ when he started) but I don't know what 26-35 touch RBs "EACH SUNDAY" this guy is talking about. :eek:

 
Thanks again, Yahoo! for another article that taught me absolutley nothing that i dind't already know.
:shrug: think of their audience, now think of FBG's. If this article were news to most people here, they're in trouble.

I've often wondered though, how much of the "RB wild" is a self-perpetuating myth? If everyone else is drafting RBs in the first 24 picks, of course there will be better value elsewhere later, and you'll probably miss out on a stud RB. Now, let's say everyone drafted stud WRs in the 1st and 2nd. You'd miss out on one too unless you used your pick to get one.

Obviously there's reasons for the stud RB theory, but it seems a lot of it is cyclical.
Agreed. Try playing in a guppy league with a bunch of fantasy first-timers sometime. Go ahead and stick to your "RBs are gods!" strategy and see where it gets you. Draft Larry Johnson with your first pick, and you think you're off to a good start. When the 2nd/3rd turn rolls around, grab Steven Jackson and Ronnie Brown and rejoice at your good fortune in managing to lock up 3 of the top 10 backs. Then, when the 5th/6th rolls around, survey the field and notice that Dominick Davis, Julius Jones, and Reuben Droughns are all still around, while the best remaining WR is Andre Johnson and the best remaining QB is Billy Volek. Suddenly, you see the guy drafting right next to you take his first RB of the draft in the 5th and 6th... and still manage to end up with DomDavis and Droughns... while you're forced to draft a WR corps of Andre Johnson, Muhsin Muhammed, and Reggie Brown, and hope that they're enough, combined with Chris Simms and Billy Volek, to keep you afloat. You watch with tears in your eyes as everyone is getting top-24 RBs well into the 9th round, and you're desperately trying to hold your roster together with chewing gum and twine. That is a shark's idea of hell- where he can do everything perfectly by the book and wind up with the worst team in a league full of idiots and half-wits.As odd as it sounds, a large reason why RBs are in such high demand is because RBs are in such high demand. Play in a league where RBs are treated like kickers, and you'd be best served treating RBs like kickers, too, if you don't want to wind up in Shark Hell.
:goodposting: And this is why it's so important to know the tendencies and preferred strategies of your competitors, not just as individuals but as a collective group.

To me, the biggest weakness of this article is that it tries too hard to implement a one-size-fits-all strategy. Forcing specific strategies like RB at all costs, etc. runs counter to true "shark" behavior. True sharks know that a fundamental rule of drafting is to be sufficiently prepared before each draft to take advantage of any opportunity to distance yourself from the pack, not just robotically following a set of pre-established rules.

 
And this is why it's so important to know the tendencies and preferred strategies of your competitors, not just as individuals but as a collective group.

To me, the biggest weakness of this article is that it tries too hard to implement a one-size-fits-all strategy. Forcing specific strategies like RB at all costs, etc. runs counter to true "shark" behavior. True sharks know that a fundamental rule of drafting is to be sufficiently prepared before each draft to take advantage of any opportunity to distance yourself from the pack, not just robotically following a set of pre-established rules.
see your first and last sentence?Aren't you expecting your league mates to be "robotic" then? How do you judge that for yourself?

 
And this is why it's so important to know the tendencies and preferred strategies of your competitors, not just as individuals but as a collective group.

To me, the biggest weakness of this article is that it tries too hard to implement a one-size-fits-all strategy. Forcing specific strategies like RB at all costs, etc. runs counter to true "shark" behavior. True sharks know that a fundamental rule of drafting is to be sufficiently prepared before each draft to take advantage of any opportunity to distance yourself from the pack, not just robotically following a set of pre-established rules.
see your first and last sentence?Aren't you expecting your league mates to be "robotic" then? How do you judge that for yourself?
Interesting question... the simple answer is that I expect my competitors to be more "robotic" than I am, and I specifically try not to be too locked into any one strategy. I suppose the only consistent aspect of my teams is drafting a QB fairly late. Other than that, I purposely avoid any one consistent strategy.Keep in mind the context of my comment regarding this Yahoo! article, which basically suggests there is a cookbook approach to success in FF. My initial comment is intended to show that each league can have a different personality, and individual owners also have certain tendencies that reveal themselves over time. Applying the same strategy to every draft is like sending out the same resume to prospective employers in several different fields -- it's unlikely to work as well as a targeted approach. I understand that many Yahoo! players aren't repeating in competition against the same people, but that's another digression.

My final comment was intended to reinforce the notion that you have to be prepared to vary from your initial plan if a better opportunity arises (or if your initial plan looks to be degenerating quickly). I stand by that, as it has served me very well in the past. I don't find these two comments to be incompatible. There is a difference between locking yourself into a strategy no matter what happens and expecting owners to maintain draft tendencies. However, your comment reminded me that there can be a downside to studying tendencies, in that the savvy owner can use that against you and go against their tendencies. Eventually this will happen, but I expect this to help me more often than it hurts me.

Your experiences may differ, Bri. In my leagues, I know the owners who are most likely to deviate from the early RB strategy, draft a TE early, who is likely to take backups at each position earlier than expected, etc. and I use that knowledge when I am deciding what to do myself. More often than not, it helps me. I'm not sure if I am expecting my competitors to be "robotic" as you say, or just doing my homework and knowing what they have done in the past.

 
im in a 16 team league, and last year i got burned by the stud RB thgeory. I drafted 14th of 16, with dillon in the first and k jones in the 2nd. Both should have been already drafted by that point according to FBG and FFI. The guy that drafted chad johnson and marvin harrison in the late 2nd early 3rd finished 2nd in the league. At some point, dont top wrs become more consistent than mediocre starting Rbs? Or was it just bad luck on my part to draft two underperformers?
I say bad luck. I mean, imagine if you went WR-WR there instead and grabbed Randy Moss and Terrell Owens. You'd be in just as big of a hole.
And this is why it's so important to know the tendencies and preferred strategies of your competitors, not just as individuals but as a collective group.

To me, the biggest weakness of this article is that it tries too hard to implement a one-size-fits-all strategy. Forcing specific strategies like RB at all costs, etc. runs counter to true "shark" behavior. True sharks know that a fundamental rule of drafting is to be sufficiently prepared before each draft to take advantage of any opportunity to distance yourself from the pack, not just robotically following a set of pre-established rules.
see your first and last sentence?Aren't you expecting your league mates to be "robotic" then? How do you judge that for yourself?
I don't think so. I think he's saying it's important to know how your league-mates think- whether they have fluid drafting strategies, or just robotically follow Yahoo articles, for example. Such a knowledge of your competitors will give you a MASSIVE advantage- for instance, if you know that all 11 of your leaguemates are going to sluff the TE position until very late, as the Yahoo article advises, then you can very easily grab Gonzo or Shockey in the 8th. If you know that your leaguemates subscribe to Football Guys, then you know that you better not try holding off until the 8th round to grab a TE if you want to get your hands on a stud.
 
I say bad luck. I mean, imagine if you went WR-WR there instead and grabbed Randy Moss and Terrell Owens. You'd be in just as big of a hole.
:confused: He'd be in the same hole by grabbing two top WRs instead of 2 underperforming RBs that took up starting spots? Interesting theory here

 
I say bad luck. I mean, imagine if you went WR-WR there instead and grabbed Randy Moss and Terrell Owens. You'd be in just as big of a hole.
:confused: He'd be in the same hole by grabbing two top WRs instead of 2 underperforming RBs that took up starting spots? Interesting theory here
Not what is being said.The 2005 production of Randy Moss and Terrell Owens made them busts, not top WRs. So the point is that you can pick busts in the first two rounds whether they are at RB or WR.

 
It was an OK article, good for yahoo, but it simply doesn't pertain to the vast majority of FBG's.

Newcomers need some sort of advice, and can be quickly overwhelmed with the things we talk about in here. Simple advice like this article give them the confidence to at least try the game.

Most of us can easily shred this article apart, but we aren't newbies either.

The average newbie would be TURNED OFF by these forums...they wouldn't even give the game a chance because we make it much more complicated.

IN other words, give the article it's due, and let's move on to more interesting topics more relevant to the sharks we are.

:boxing:

 
It was an OK article, good for yahoo, but it simply doesn't pertain to the vast majority of FBG's.

Newcomers need some sort of advice, and can be quickly overwhelmed with the things we talk about in here.  Simple advice like this article give them the confidence to at least try the game.

Most of us can easily shred this article apart, but we aren't newbies either.

The average newbie would be TURNED OFF by these forums...they wouldn't even give the game a chance because we make it much more complicated.

IN other words, give the article it's due, and let's move on to more interesting topics more relevant to the sharks we are.

:boxing:
Agreed.Yet my perception is that a large number of posters in these forums subscribe to many of the same points made in the article, albeit with a far more detailed, thorough and complex understanding of the data and processes involved.

The mere suggestion that loading up on RBs early is not always the best strategy tends to draw strong criticism (recall Keys Myaths making that point in his 2005 retrospective thread). Not waiting until the very last rounds of a draft to pick up a kicker (or picking up kickers in free agency at some cost) is also a favorite topic for ridicule (see multiple Neil Rackers threads last season). I think that people tend to be too quick to trash alternative perspectives rather than considering the merit behind the approach.

Being a shark means that you will find every advantage possible, however small, and the only way to do that is to always keep yourself open to the possibility of learning something new about the game.

 
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It was an OK article, good for yahoo, but it simply doesn't pertain to the vast majority of FBG's.

Newcomers need some sort of advice, and can be quickly overwhelmed with the things we talk about in here.  Simple advice like this article give them the confidence to at least try the game.

Most of us can easily shred this article apart, but we aren't newbies either.

The average newbie would be TURNED OFF by these forums...they wouldn't even give the game a chance because we make it much more complicated.

IN other words, give the article it's due, and let's move on to more interesting topics more relevant to the sharks we are.

:boxing:
Agreed.Yet my perception is that a large number of posters in these forums subscribe to many of the same points made in the article, albeit with a far more detailed, thorough and complex understanding of the data and processes involved.

The mere suggestion that loading up on RBs early is not always the best strategy tends to draw strong criticism. Not waiting until the very last rounds of a draft to pick up a kicker is also a favorite topic for ridicule. I think that people tend to be too quick to trash alternative perspectives rather than considering the merit behind the approach.

Being a shark means that you will find every advantage possible, however small, and the only way to do that is to always keep yourself open to the possibility of learning something new about the game.
AGREED! I never said the points made by Yahoo were dead wrong...they are just over-simplified for the averag FBG...and would lead to disaster if followed religiously, as someone else pointed out above...IE: What good is it to have 5 top ten RB's if your first reciever is #25 and your're scrounging for a serviceable QB?REAL SHARKS adjust their strategy to the league they play in!! :boxing:

 
I say bad luck. I mean, imagine if you went WR-WR there instead and grabbed Randy Moss and Terrell Owens. You'd be in just as big of a hole.
:confused: He'd be in the same hole by grabbing two top WRs instead of 2 underperforming RBs that took up starting spots? Interesting theory here
2005 VBD value of Randy Moss- 322005 VBD value of Terrell Owens- 0

2005 VBD value of Corey Dillon- 26

2005 VBD value of Kevin Jones- 0

Total 2005 VBD if you'd drafted Moss + Owens with your first two picks- 32

Total 2005 VBD if you'd drafted Dillon + Jones with your first two picks- 26.

So yes, he'd be in the same hole by grabbing two "top WRs" instead of 2 underperforming RBs that took up starting spots. Actually, he'd be in a bigger hole, because at least Dillon was good for 5 TDs in the fantasy playoffs (weeks 14-16).

The point is that drafting RB-RB didn't doom him... drafting busts did. If he'd gone WR-WR and drafted busts, he would have been just as screwed. If he'd gone QB-TE and drafted busts, he'd be just as screwed. Drafting busts in the first two rounds will ruin your season, regardless of what position they played. That isn't necessarily an indication of a faulty draft strategy, it's just an indication of bad projections.

 
Thanks again, Yahoo! for another article that taught me absolutley nothing that i dind't already know.
:shrug: think of their audience, now think of FBG's. If this article were news to most people here, they're in trouble.

I've often wondered though, how much of the "RB wild" is a self-perpetuating myth? If everyone else is drafting RBs in the first 24 picks, of course there will be better value elsewhere later, and you'll probably miss out on a stud RB. Now, let's say everyone drafted stud WRs in the 1st and 2nd. You'd miss out on one too unless you used your pick to get one.

Obviously there's reasons for the stud RB theory, but it seems a lot of it is cyclical.
There are no rule of thumbs. Every player has value. Last year in the Survivor I league I knew that since all the other guys were FBG's that the stud RB theory would prevail. So I looked to distinguish my team by going WR early. Even with Deuce McAlister as my first pick I took both Harrison and Wayne with my next two picks and then Roy Williams with my fourth pick. I was still able to grab Thomas Jones and Larry Johnson after that. And I did very well and just missed winning even after losing Deuce early. So the rule is to find value and if you zero in on a position then you limit yourself.
 
Looks like a very good introductory article to me. I don't like handcuffs, but I know lots of people do. Other than that, I'd recommend it to someone just starting in FF.
I concur, I do not like handcuffs either unless it is very high profile (Priest/LJ) and then I prefer to just have the backup because he is cheaper.
 
I wonder how people would react to this article if it had Dodds's name on it instead of Yahoo. It's not really that much different from his annual Perfect Draft article.

 
I wonder how people would react to this article if it had Dodds's name on it instead of Yahoo.  It's not really that much different from his annual Perfect Draft article.
Your inference that there would be different responses to the article simply if a different name was attached to it is almost certainly correct. However, the dearth of specificity in the article shows that it is not at all like Dodds perfect draft. In fact, for me it's the individual assessments that matter the most of anything in his article.I've always thought that the perfect draft best fits an all-shark league with owners who are conventional thinkers for the most part. I have no way of knowing what percentage of leagues fit that description, but I know that neither of my longest running leagues are like that. Yet I find value in the perfect draft article by giving me an initial structure of how the sharks likely are thinking and in helping me to define tiers and transition points among individual positions. Most of all, it helps me identify sleepers and fallback players that I can settle for if my initial gambits don't all work.

I think David is widely respected in these forums and deservedly so, but I suspect he'd be among the first to tell you that there are hundreds of posters here who can strategize and plan their drafts nearly as well as he can. As these posters have a much better idea of the whims and nuances of their individual leagues, they figure to do better by using their own input to tweak Dodds perfect draft to better results.

 
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Tip 3 – Overpaying for Wideouts Equals Fantasy Fallout

Unlike most years.... the WRs this year have a huge drop-off, and there is such a great third tier of reliable RBs.

I'm very likely to go RB WR WR WR RB RB RB this year

Some great values like DeAngelo Williams, Curtis Martin, Cedric Benson, Ahman Green, LenDale White all available in the mid-round, and all should be the go-to guys

 
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And this is why it's so important to know the tendencies and preferred strategies of your competitors, not just as individuals but as a collective group.

To me, the biggest weakness of this article is that it tries too hard to implement a one-size-fits-all strategy. Forcing specific strategies like RB at all costs, etc. runs counter to true "shark" behavior. True sharks know that a fundamental rule of drafting is to be sufficiently prepared before each draft to take advantage of any opportunity to distance yourself from the pack, not just robotically following a set of pre-established rules.
see your first and last sentence?Aren't you expecting your league mates to be "robotic" then? How do you judge that for yourself?
Interesting question... the simple answer is that I expect my competitors to be more "robotic" than I am, and I specifically try not to be too locked into any one strategy. I suppose the only consistent aspect of my teams is drafting a QB fairly late. Other than that, I purposely avoid any one consistent strategy.Keep in mind the context of my comment regarding this Yahoo! article, which basically suggests there is a cookbook approach to success in FF. My initial comment is intended to show that each league can have a different personality, and individual owners also have certain tendencies that reveal themselves over time. Applying the same strategy to every draft is like sending out the same resume to prospective employers in several different fields -- it's unlikely to work as well as a targeted approach. I understand that many Yahoo! players aren't repeating in competition against the same people, but that's another digression.

My final comment was intended to reinforce the notion that you have to be prepared to vary from your initial plan if a better opportunity arises (or if your initial plan looks to be degenerating quickly). I stand by that, as it has served me very well in the past. I don't find these two comments to be incompatible. There is a difference between locking yourself into a strategy no matter what happens and expecting owners to maintain draft tendencies. However, your comment reminded me that there can be a downside to studying tendencies, in that the savvy owner can use that against you and go against their tendencies. Eventually this will happen, but I expect this to help me more often than it hurts me.

Your experiences may differ, Bri. In my leagues, I know the owners who are most likely to deviate from the early RB strategy, draft a TE early, who is likely to take backups at each position earlier than expected, etc. and I use that knowledge when I am deciding what to do myself. More often than not, it helps me. I'm not sure if I am expecting my competitors to be "robotic" as you say, or just doing my homework and knowing what they have done in the past.
very interestingI'd like to discuss this in another thread some time...regardless of yahoo articles, ya know?

 
And this is why it's so important to know the tendencies and preferred strategies of your competitors, not just as individuals but as a collective group.

To me, the biggest weakness of this article is that it tries too hard to implement a one-size-fits-all strategy. Forcing specific strategies like RB at all costs, etc. runs counter to true "shark" behavior. True sharks know that a fundamental rule of drafting is to be sufficiently prepared before each draft to take advantage of any opportunity to distance yourself from the pack, not just robotically following a set of pre-established rules.
see your first and last sentence?Aren't you expecting your league mates to be "robotic" then? How do you judge that for yourself?
Interesting question... the simple answer is that I expect my competitors to be more "robotic" than I am, and I specifically try not to be too locked into any one strategy. I suppose the only consistent aspect of my teams is drafting a QB fairly late. Other than that, I purposely avoid any one consistent strategy.Keep in mind the context of my comment regarding this Yahoo! article, which basically suggests there is a cookbook approach to success in FF. My initial comment is intended to show that each league can have a different personality, and individual owners also have certain tendencies that reveal themselves over time. Applying the same strategy to every draft is like sending out the same resume to prospective employers in several different fields -- it's unlikely to work as well as a targeted approach. I understand that many Yahoo! players aren't repeating in competition against the same people, but that's another digression.

My final comment was intended to reinforce the notion that you have to be prepared to vary from your initial plan if a better opportunity arises (or if your initial plan looks to be degenerating quickly). I stand by that, as it has served me very well in the past. I don't find these two comments to be incompatible. There is a difference between locking yourself into a strategy no matter what happens and expecting owners to maintain draft tendencies. However, your comment reminded me that there can be a downside to studying tendencies, in that the savvy owner can use that against you and go against their tendencies. Eventually this will happen, but I expect this to help me more often than it hurts me.

Your experiences may differ, Bri. In my leagues, I know the owners who are most likely to deviate from the early RB strategy, draft a TE early, who is likely to take backups at each position earlier than expected, etc. and I use that knowledge when I am deciding what to do myself. More often than not, it helps me. I'm not sure if I am expecting my competitors to be "robotic" as you say, or just doing my homework and knowing what they have done in the past.
very interestingI'd like to discuss this in another thread some time...regardless of yahoo articles, ya know?
Always good to discuss with you, sir. Maybe later this summer...
 

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