Donald Brown Shoulder Injury Update (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

From RotoWorld:

Donald Brown suffered a "very painful shoulder contusion" against the Rams last week according to Colts president Bill Polian.

Polian did not offere a timetable on Brown's return, but said the feeling is the injury is not "terrible" and he won't miss any significant length of time. Polian did go on to say that "if [brown] misses a week or two or three, Mike [Hart] is very likely to be up and dressed and playing a big role." Polian also said "We're looking forward to getting [brown] the ball a lot more. He's a great football player."

Source: Indy Football Report

 

[djcolts]

Considering the Texans (the most important division game left) and the Pats (key for seeding purposes) are in the two weeks after this one - I think one week max on this injury. The Niners game is the least important game left in the schedule because it is non-conference - so resting Brown this week wouldn't shock me at all.

 

[packersfan]

Considering the Texans (the most important division game left) and the Pats (key for seeding purposes) are in the two weeks after this one - I think one week max on this injury. The Niners game is the least important game left in the schedule because it is non-conference - so resting Brown this week wouldn't shock me at all.

Suiting up is one thing. Being able to play effectively with a shoulder injury is another. I wouldn't be surprised if the Colts leaned heavily on Addai for the next three weeks given Polian's possible timetable.

 

[djcolts]

Considering the Texans (the most important division game left) and the Pats (key for seeding purposes) are in the two weeks after this one - I think one week max on this injury. The Niners game is the least important game left in the schedule because it is non-conference - so resting Brown this week wouldn't shock me at all.

Suiting up is one thing. Being able to play effectively with a shoulder injury is another. I wouldn't be surprised if the Colts leaned heavily on Addai for the next three weeks given Polian's possible timetable.

Brown himself said after the game it is like his shoulder injuries in college, and it wasn't a big deal.

 

[greggorymac]

Considering the Texans (the most important division game left) and the Pats (key for seeding purposes) are in the two weeks after this one - I think one week max on this injury. The Niners game is the least important game left in the schedule because it is non-conference - so resting Brown this week wouldn't shock me at all.

Suiting up is one thing. Being able to play effectively with a shoulder injury is another. I wouldn't be surprised if the Colts leaned heavily on Addai for the next three weeks given Polian's possible timetable.

Agreed. Bummer for Brown though... he was starting to look very good.

 

[djcolts]

Plus - the rotoworld article didn't give the full context of the quote. He got a question on RB Mike Hart and his role in the offense, after that he talked about if Brown misses one or two or three weeks what Hart's role would be.

 

[packersfan]

Plus - the rotoworld article didn't give the full context of the quote. He got a question on RB Mike Hart and his role in the offense, after that he talked about if Brown misses one or two or three weeks what Hart's role would be.

Thanks for the context but I don't believe Polian would have mentioned three weeks unless that was a possibility. For him to mention that type of timetable has me thinking it's very possible that's how long Brown will be out. The Colts, as you well know, are also very conservative when it comes to disclosing injury updates. Remember when Marvin Harrison was going to keep coming back a couple of years ago and he never did? I remember Addai last year was going to be "OK" after his first injury and he wasn't. This season the updates about Gonzalez have been murky at times. Just my two cents but Polian mentioning a possible three-week timetable is a pretty huge red flag to me. I think it will be at least that long before Brown is productive.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I wouldn't doubt he misses this next week and plays after that. They don't need him to beat the 9'ers. I thought is was encouraging to hear Polian singing Brown's praises though. He definitely offers big play ability (2 carries, 58 yards).

 

[rvmblack]

None of you know anything so lets let the Colts tell us and not random people

 

[Bermuda_Chub]

The way it was hanging after he got up, suggests to me that he separated it to some degree (or re-aggravated a previous separation, as Brown's quote indicates). I've separated both of my shoulders, and I'm fully ware of how painful a re-aggravation can be. That said, unless he completely messed it up (and the tackle didn't look all that terrible) I'd guess that he's not out longer than two weeks. As a Brown owner, I'm just grateful that it wasn't a lower body injury.

 

[djcolts]

None of you know anything so lets let the Colts tell us and not random people

We need to try to read the tea leaves. OP and I see the tea leaves a little differently, but we still need to do it. The Colts sure aren't going to tell us their exact plans - especially early in a week.

 

[az_prof]

The way it was hanging after he got up, suggests to me that he separated it to some degree (or re-aggravated a previous separation, as Brown's quote indicates). I've separated both of my shoulders, and I'm fully ware of how painful a re-aggravation can be. That said, unless he completely messed it up (and the tackle didn't look all that terrible) I'd guess that he's not out longer than two weeks. As a Brown owner, I'm just grateful that it wasn't a lower body injury.

My shoulder used to subluxate, which is a partial dislocation, and then it goes back into joint. It hurts like hell and your arm is weak for a bit but it's true, you are good as new in a few days of rest. On the other hand, the only way to fix it for good is surgery. Hope it is just a shoulder bruise and not partial dislocation.He is clearly more talented than Addai so I can't wait to see what he does when he gets 20 carries a game.

 

[Texican]

Is Hart the backup if Brown is out, or is it Simpson?

 

[Buffaloes]

 

[Judge Smails]

Thinking about trading FOR Addai. If it's multiple weeks, is Mike Hart any real threat, or should Addai get 20 carries for the next few weeks? As for those pimping Brown - he definitely has major skills (I drafted him but packaged in a trade before the season). But what gives you any indication that the carry ratio will change with Addai any time soon? Addai has looked great as well, and is the veteran. I can't see him losing the job this year, or it even being a 50-50 split.

 

[joffer]

None of you know anything so lets let the Colts tell us and not random people

BUT THAT WHY WERE HERE

 

[packersfan]

Thinking about trading FOR Addai. If it's multiple weeks, is Mike Hart any real threat, or should Addai get 20 carries for the next few weeks? As for those pimping Brown - he definitely has major skills (I drafted him but packaged in a trade before the season). But what gives you any indication that the carry ratio will change with Addai any time soon? Addai has looked great as well, and is the veteran. I can't see him losing the job this year, or it even being a 50-50 split.

I think Brown needs an Addai injury to get the role to change. Otherwise, I think the Colts will stick with what they're doing. Unfortunately for Brown, he's the one who's now hurt and if he's out for a few weeks that opens the door for Addai to further the gap between them.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Dammit..

 

[cubbie5150]

Anyone have any insight into the possibly chronic nature of his shoulder? he commented that this was an issue during college... Bad time for his injury as I was close to making a trade involving him; other owner now wants nothing to do w/ it

 

[One]

Per RotoWorld

Speaking on NFL Network Tuesday, Colts president Bill Polian indicated that Donald Brown could miss 2-3 weeks with a shoulder contusion.

Brown is almost certainly going to miss this week's game against the Niners, and it's not looking good for next week either. Mike Hart will be active this week and is expected to handle backup duties over Chad Simpson. Joseph Addai could see a slight increase in carries as well.

 

[az_prof]

Thinking about trading FOR Addai. If it's multiple weeks, is Mike Hart any real threat, or should Addai get 20 carries for the next few weeks? As for those pimping Brown - he definitely has major skills (I drafted him but packaged in a trade before the season). But what gives you any indication that the carry ratio will change with Addai any time soon? Addai has looked great as well, and is the veteran. I can't see him losing the job this year, or it even being a 50-50 split.

I have watched many of the games and I don't agree that "Addai has looked great as well." Addai has not shown the same game breaking ability that Brown has. He has looked ok and obviously has played well enough for the team to win, but great? No. The numbers do not support the idea that Addai has played great either. His ypc is 3.3. That's horrible. Brown's is 4.6. Brown is even more explosive in the passing game where he has averaged nearly 20 yards a catch and Addai only 5.7 yards per catch. But it isn't just numbers: it is the way he runs.

 

[switz]

Thinking about trading FOR Addai. If it's multiple weeks, is Mike Hart any real threat, or should Addai get 20 carries for the next few weeks? As for those pimping Brown - he definitely has major skills (I drafted him but packaged in a trade before the season). But what gives you any indication that the carry ratio will change with Addai any time soon? Addai has looked great as well, and is the veteran. I can't see him losing the job this year, or it even being a 50-50 split.

I have watched many of the games and I don't agree that "Addai has looked great as well." Addai has not shown the same game breaking ability that Brown has. He has looked ok and obviously has played well enough for the team to win, but great? No. The numbers do not support the idea that Addai has played great either. His ypc is 3.3. That's horrible. Brown's is 4.6. Brown is even more explosive in the passing game where he has averaged nearly 20 yards a catch and Addai only 5.7 yards per catch. But it isn't just numbers: it is the way he runs.

The numbers lie in this case, and so do your eyes. The only difference I've seen between the two is that WHEN Brown gets past the LOS he's got a better top end speed. But as far as hitting holes, etc. they are neck and neck.The numbers are skewed by Brown's lower workload and a couple big plays. Like the 20 YPR stat, seriously... weak.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Here we go again..

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Wow. It's like clock-work. It's as if he felt a disturbance in the force.

 

[Teef]

Thinking about trading FOR Addai. If it's multiple weeks, is Mike Hart any real threat, or should Addai get 20 carries for the next few weeks? As for those pimping Brown - he definitely has major skills (I drafted him but packaged in a trade before the season). But what gives you any indication that the carry ratio will change with Addai any time soon? Addai has looked great as well, and is the veteran. I can't see him losing the job this year, or it even being a 50-50 split.

I have watched many of the games and I don't agree that "Addai has looked great as well." Addai has not shown the same game breaking ability that Brown has. He has looked ok and obviously has played well enough for the team to win, but great? No. The numbers do not support the idea that Addai has played great either. His ypc is 3.3. That's horrible. Brown's is 4.6. Brown is even more explosive in the passing game where he has averaged nearly 20 yards a catch and Addai only 5.7 yards per catch. But it isn't just numbers: it is the way he runs.

It's Addai/Hart/Simpson's job til' Brown gets back.It'll be Addai/Brown's job when Brown gets back.I hope by this point you've gotten over the fact that Brown won't be an exclusive workhorse back in '09.Indy is 6-0 with with a Lombardi Trophy to boot in the committee approach.& Addai's doin' fine.

 

[djcolts]

Polian repeated the 1-3 week timeline for Brown on his NFL Network appearance this afternoon, and basically all but ruled Brown out for this week. So, OP is completely right here.

 

[Knobs]

Here we go again..

Wow. It's like clock-work. It's as if he felt a disturbance in the force.

 

[packersfan]

Polian repeated the 1-3 week timeline for Brown on his NFL Network appearance this afternoon, and basically all but ruled Brown out for this week. So, OP is completely right here.

I just thought it was a pretty big red flag for Polian to mention the 3-week timetable like he did. Unfortunately as a Brown owner I was right.

 

[One]

Indianapolis Colts WR Reggie Wayne, RB Donald Brown won't practice extensively Wednesday

As Jim Caldwell sees it, Indianapolis Colts RB Donald Brown means well.

But the Colts' first-year coach said on Wednesday just because the rookie running back wants to practice and prepare to play against the San Francisco 49ers Sunday doesn't mean he necessarily will do so.

Brown, the Colts' first-round selection in the 2009 NFL Draft, was one of two players to sustain significant injuries this past Sunday against St. Louis. He sustained a shoulder injury that has his status uncertain for Sunday, while wide receiver Reggie Wayne sustained a groin injury that Caldwell said will keep the three-time Pro Bowl receiver out of practice Wednesday.

Brown said on Wednesday he plans to practice and prepare this week as if he is going to play, but Caldwell called that "wishful thinking."

"As coaches we love to hear that," Caldwell said Wednesday as the AFC South-leading Colts (6-0) prepared to play the 49ers (3-3) at Lucas Oil Stadium in downtown Indianapolis Sunday at 1 p.m. "There may be some phase he'll be able to participate in, but today would be wishful thinking for him, to be honest with you.” Caldwell added, “He's going to have to nurse that shoulder a bit. It depends on how quickly he comes along. Hell be kind of wait-and-see this week.”

While Caldwell said Wayne “feels good,” he said he likely won't practice Wednesday. “We're hoping he will progress throughout the week and he'll increase his activity,” Caldwell said of Wayne. “We'll see where he is come Friday or so.”

Colts President Bill Polian said on the NFL Network Tuesday that "Reggie, I think, is fine," and said Brown's injury could keep him out one-to-three weeks.

"I doubt we would have him this week," Polian said of Brown. Caldwell also said WR Anthony Gonzalez (knee) may return to practice on a limited basis this week and participated in a walkthrough Wednesday morning. He has been out since Week 1 with a knee injury.

“I suspect we'll get a little practice out of him this week," Caldwell said. "I'm not sure how much. We'll see how he does throughout the week.”

Caldwell said the injury to Wayne won't influence the approach to the return of Gonzalez. “They're separate issues,” Caldwell said. “Just because we would like certain things to happen, we can't accelerate the healing process.”

With Brown possibly out or limited, Caldwell said starter Joseph Addai likely will get an increased workload this week, and that second-year veteran Chad Simpson also could get increased work.

 

[djcolts]

I think if Brown is de-activated this week - Mike Hart will be the backup RB, not Chad Simpson. Simpson is on the roster to return kickoffs.

 

[kneeshooter]

Anyone have any insight into the possibly chronic nature of his shoulder? he commented that this was an issue during college... Bad time for his injury as I was close to making a trade involving him; other owner now wants nothing to do w/ it

I have UConn season tix and don't remember any time Brown missed a game because of his shoulder. If he had it in college we as fans never heard about it and it obviously didn't hinder him in any way.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I hold both in a league and while I never wish injury to anyone, Im kinda glad that one of them will get even more of the load this week

 

[Ridgelake]

per nfl.com, Brown did not participate in practice today.

 

[switz]

Anyone have any insight into the possibly chronic nature of his shoulder? he commented that this was an issue during college... Bad time for his injury as I was close to making a trade involving him; other owner now wants nothing to do w/ it

I have UConn season tix and don't remember any time Brown missed a game because of his shoulder. If he had it in college we as fans never heard about it and it obviously didn't hinder him in any way.

He missed 1 game in '06 and one in '07, none in '08. Not sure if it was due to a shoulder injury or not, though he admits he's had shoulder injuries in college.